I get the pessimism but this is another great opportunity to see Goff grow!! He will get to see how a great team attacks him. This is going to be fun watching Goff learn what it takes to be the best from the best.

Hey I get people want Fisher gone but don't miss this chance to see Goff and this team grow and hopefully show the difference a good QB-Leader can make. I personally think this team is going to surprise people down the stretch because these guys are going to rally for each other, not Fisher. When these players look at guys like Aaron Donald working hard to be the best it has to be infectious especially after seeing glimmers of greatness from Goff last week! You know it brings me great pleasure now to watch Goff and see the Rams did make the right choice with the #1 pick but it's early, Its not too early to see flashes of greatness! This is the most excited I've been to be a Rams fan because all the peices are almost in place and the QB everyone has been worried about just needed a little time.

Sooo I guess the link broke in my OP and if it wasn't viewed before this was the kicker.

Hard to say because of one repeated word in your post - Fisherball. It's entirely possible that our W-L record would be the same.

But I will say this - Fisher would have been cut a lot more slack for early losses to which rookie mistakes at QB were a contributor had Goff been the starter from day one. His insistence on sticking with Keenum even after Keenum's limitations became so painfully obvious really added to the negative opinions of his coaching this year. This is especially true after Keenum's disastrous performance against the Giants in London.

Furthermore, I think our scoring output would be higher. For example there have been a few occasions this year where either Quick or Austin got open behind the defense and Keenum couldn't even get the ball in the same zip code ... those were missed scoring opportunities. If Goff sees the same thing, I have a lot of confidence that he puts the ball where it needs to be and those plays go for six. The effect of such plays would have also echoed long after they were over, as teams would have had to do more to respect the deep ball, backing off from the LOS and giving Gurley more running room.

But we know what happened instead, and we know why Fisher's seat is getting hot.

I honestly cant believe theres been such a fuss about that Ravens play. I thought this was a pretty well-known strategy

I'm starting to wonder if Eddie George was the greatest runner ever.

He ran in Fishers up the middle break the wall for 3 yards offense. Somehow Eddie George would get those 3 yards.

To this day Fisher wonders why his post George RB's can't do that.

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Donnal played pretty well. Don't think he did any better than Robinson has played most weeks, however, right down to the ill advised penalties. And Robinson has faced some very strong defensive lines. Donnal, on the other hand, got the luxury of facing New Orleans. But at the same time, you have to be mindful LT is not his full time position. It is for G-Rob. At the end of the day Saffold is injured (again), so Robinson will be back in his usual spot next week I bet.

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I made it well known my present position is on GRob....its a big mistake to reinsert him at this time. The Saints defense has not played well but it does have two very good players on it. One was a Ram last season & he was an outstanding 3rd DT for us Nick Fairley. RDT Nick Fairley lines up against the Rams LEFT side of the OL. The Saints best defensive player is RDE Cam Jordan. Cam has more sacks than our ex all pro DE Rob Quinn.

Cam lined up against LT Saffold in the 1 quarter & for half of the 2nd quarter. It was Jordan vs Saffold when Saffold was injured. ORT Andrew Donnal who came in for OLT Saffold in the 2nd quarter. When Andrew Donnal lined up against Cam Jordan he worked very hard & held Cam at bay most of the time. Cam did get a sack of Goff but it was not from Donnal but came about when Fairley & Jordan were stunting & Jamon Brown failed to keep Cam contained as Andrew Donnal had.

Andrew Donnal is not a power run blocking OL'er who can make those big run blocks from the OT position but Andrew Donnal is a very good technician who uses his brain to outwork his opponents. His pass pro set up & positioning & foot work is far better to GRob's skills in this area. I would state this..... that until this past Sunday the Rams have seen very little of this type of work being done to help the offense from the OLT post.

P.S. it was the Saints left side DL that killed Goff in the 2nd half our right side OL went into total pass blocking fail mode. The starting TE's & RB's & Rob Havenstein were seriously ineffective in pass protection as the Saints DC overloaded our right wing with extra Blitzer's & it worked very well.

blackbart said:

Fisher did answer the question and it

Yes he answered it check the press conference from 11/28

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I just learnt about. It is good to know this was to rejuvenate GRob by giving him a break. Nevermind 3 offeseasons, 30+ starts and a bye week this season didn't help.

The greatest life lesson I am picking up from Fisher is never answer, mention, try to explain the big or true picture. Always break it up, compartmentalize so the big picture always gets lost. I truly think it is a good lesson

Merlin said:

Barron is not the player he was last year. Last year Williams admitted he told him to just play and use his instincts. This year he supposedly knew what he was doing, and he's a lesser player.

And there's something else too: Barron is under a fat contract now. Which, IMO, is the truth of the matter. Put him right next to Saffold in the "I got paid now I'm gonna cruise" department. Both those guys played lights out in their contract seasons and tanked after the contract.

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I can't agree with that ,barron still looks to be playing at the same speed but I think offenses are sending big blockers and him and tree and they are getting ran over . Doesn't help when it's 3rd and 18 and our DC blitzes everyone to give up a huge play .

Ramstien said:

I have been complaining about this terrible officiating all season and they are bad in all the games not just the Rams. I had to quit watching the Rams game yesterday after the Saints made a run down the sideline in the first half and one of their player clearly blocked a Ram defender in the back right in front of the official and no flag was thrown. This was after that bullcrap call they made on Austin for a block in the back. The officials seem to do a better job in college football, why is that? It looks like the fix is in, not surprising with this stupid ass commissioner Goodell!

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That block in the back by the aints was BLATANT... and right in the clear view of the ref. No flag.

Beyond maddening.

id be very surprised if TNF goes anywhere ....to many advertising dollars out there

Prime Time said:

Please don't aggravate things. Thanks.

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Deleted.
Moving on, thanks for the polite flick on the forehead. I need it sometimes.

Yamahopper said:

No worries.The Harbaugh era will start soon enough.

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Not until he's finished at Michigan, which would entail beating The Ohio State University and a National Championship.

A.J. Hicks said:

Boudreau certainly should be out as well as the running backs coach - who is new this year if I remember correctly.

I'm not ready to let go of Benny but boy have we gone through starters with him as the back up. Zac, Darryl, Tre, . . .

I don't want to see Fish get away with hiring Groh as his OC. We need someone that is going to come in and really LEAD this offense.

I remember you mentioning DeFilippo last year. I don't remember/know anything about him.

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He was the Browns OC in 2015. He managed to make Manziel look pretty decent and McCown look like a solid NFL starting QB. Browns fans were big fans of his. And that's saying something. Most fan-bases hate their OC, especially fans of bad teams.

Hacksaw said:

Goff isn't the problem. It's the plays they have drawn up for him over all. The team philosophy. Our first clue could be the simple fact that Gurley keeps getting stuffed into the middle without a hole to be found,,,, or crossing routes 5 yards short of the sticks. .

Such a drag to watch but,,, I feel a change of weather in the wind.

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I believe that myself & most likely most of you can call the next play. If you & I can do that, think what the other team is thinking. I don't know what kind of weather you are thinking of Hacksaw and I would hope it will get better but, I really doubt it.

The Saints beat down of Gregg Williams defense should be rightfully called the Saints and Refs beat down of Gregg Williams defense. The Saints line was holding on every play and it changed the game completely. Sometimes it is hard to ignore signs that some things are mandated by someone with power.

Prime Time said:

4. I think the most amazing inactive of this season happened Sunday in New Orleans: The Rams benched and made inactive the second pick in the 2014 draft, left tackle Greg Robinson. He was awful against the Dolphins last week, and he’s been a prime culprit in the poor season of franchise back Todd Gurley. Stunning stat from Pro Football Focus: Of the 77 tackles who have played enough to earn grades this season, Robinson’s run-blocking grade is dead last.

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Many of us here said before the draft that you don't use the second overall pick on an OLT that is as raw as Robinson. You just don't. Offense is more about perfect execution and intelligent game planning. Robinson seems to lack both traits. I hope if Fisher is gone and Snead retained that it isn't Snead that favors these raw athletes on the offensive side of the ball.

Dieter the Brock said:

It's freaking insane isn't it

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We are 1 freaking point away from being undefeated.
Ugh. God, I hate the Giants. We always beat them in their house, though. We'll be there in 2 weeks.

Leinhert won 2 national championships and woulda won a 3rd if Vince Young didn't pull a Superman
Hard to surpass that kind of greatness

den-the-coach said:

It's a little early, but once again @jrry32 brings a smile to my face with this off season. Bill Callahan would be a tough get, he would still be under contract (2018) and although it would be a promotion, the Redskins would have to grant permission, now, it might happen if Callahan goes to Jay Gruden and tells him he wants to be reunited with his brother, but I have a feeling that GM Bruce Allen & Owner Daniel Snyder might deny permission and there is no guarantee that Callahan would want to reunite as well, but that would be a great addition for the offensive line because the offensive line coach would be a crucial hire as well.

Question will be, what other coaches will be fired and what quality assistants will be available? Jacksonville will make a coaching change and Doug Marone is a high profile OL Coach, but I would pass, will the San Diego Chargers make a change? If they do, I would focus on Jeff Davidson who also has Offensive Coordinator experience, might be a good match for Gruden, IMHO.

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That would be something if Gruden didn't allow his brother to interview Callahan, that's why I think he would be a good fit.

FrantikRam said:

Pac 12 does have a championship game.

This is going to get really interesting. If Clemson, Washington and Penn State win their respective championship games, the committee will have a dilemma on their hands.


I think the three best teams in the country are Alabama, Ohio State and Clemson - and then there's a drop off. I would probably put Washington in there. But if we're talking the best teams, OSU and Clemson should play to determine who gets to play Alabama.

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It sure will be interesting
If Washington and Penn State win, its a dilemma for sure.
The committee has said that winning the conference championship matters
I think it would come down to OSU or Penn State, and the committee would have to eat their words
I cant see a 2 loss Penn State team jumping over a 1 loss Washington team
Oddly enough though, it will likely work itself out.
Now if Clemson were to lose, (Not going to happen) it can get real whacky

We get this kid an offensive line and he'll throw dimes to WRs down field all game long. The kind of arm he has is rare. He has to clean up his mechanics some but his ability to throw on the run is nice as well. But if we can keep the flood gates from opening on him like they did the second half he'll do crazy things in the future. Just hope he survives until then.

Mojo Ram said:

Seattle ain't going away anytime soon. The Cards have free agency'd themselves into a team with a closing window w/no QBOTF. The Niners are devoid of any talent.
The Rams? There's talent and what looks like a QBOTF but there's still that coaching thing.

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Truthfully, the 49ers aren't devoid of talent. Right now, they're being destroyed by injuries. But they have talent. What the 49ers lack is intelligence at the top of the organization. And that's what should keep them down in the gutters next year.

Let's go Chiefs. Fuck the Broncos.

Seattle will go down hill soon. I don't think Carroll coaches for much longer. Just a feeling.