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Tale of two halves.

Not sure why but we always start really slow on defense. Their coverage, tackling, pass rush.. it all is slow and almost lazy it seems like. We seem to come alive about half way in the second quarter and then really get after it in the second half.

Our offense has stayed almost even keel through all of our games. So far for the season our offense has scored 155 points in the first half and 147 in the second half. With a few exceptions that scoring has been fairly spread out through all 4 quarters. Add in a Gurley touchdown that he didn't take and it's dead even by 1 point.

Defense with quite the difference. In the first half, the defense is giving up 118 points this season where in the second half it's giving up 85. Yeah the Saints first half explosion skews that a bit but I think the eye test shows us all that it's been two different defenses between halves. I appreciate the adjustments the coaches are making but they have to do something to limit their exposure the first two quarters.

Fourth quarter, we are giving up only 33 points. And 20 of those come from Saints and the Broncos late surge during garbage time really.

Every game I'm saying "just got to ride the storm until half time". Getting some players back and pass rush outside of Donald will help a ton. We need consistent pass rush and not just waiting until the opposing line gets tired after blocking Donald for three quarters.

Anybody else rethinking future Ram player extensions after this Saints game?

I used to think we needed to offer Hekker a 10 year contract. After yesterday's game, and this season in general, we need to lock him up for, minimum, the next 20 years. Most dynamic special teams player in NFL history.
I dunno. Hekker is really just a straight line runner with average speed.He does have a career 107.2 passer rating though...

Sam Darnold


This is beyond stupid. He was the best quarterback USC has ever had by a mile-and-a-half. His first year as a starter he had a good enough O-line that it allowed him to routinely take over games. He was transcendent, and I hate words like "transcendent."

His second year a bunch of the O-linemen had graduated, the line faltered and Sam shockingly "regressed" a bit (mainly trying to do too much).

I'd suspect his struggles have more to do with the Jets than him. I was so sad when they drafted him, hopefully for his sake they'll surround him with some coaching and receivers this offseason so he can develop before he's ruined.

Vent Thread: Rams@Saints

I'll probably get flogged for this but i like GW's Rams defense better. Wade is doing a nice job here, it isn't easy flipping a 4-3 to a 3-4 and trying to make it work while jumbling personnel in one year, and Wade is one of the best DC's ever to coach....but i mean if we could pair that 2015 Rams D with what McVay's offense is doing.....lights out domination. Sacks, turnovers, intimidation, physicality....this D hasn't shown enough of that at all as a group.

I don't hate this defense but there are clearly some scheme issues as well as just having key guys out with injury.

Up until week 9 Wades defense was statistically better. But, and it’s a big but, hasn’t generated as many sacks. When you play the best QBs you have to get there if you want to kill drives.

MOD EDIT: 48hr rule. On to the Seahawks.

Wade

I think this game and the one against the Packers have been disappointing, although I don't think the Packers was all that bad. Which happens after facing Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees. The rest they've been good (and the numbers backed it up).

Did you think the D played well against the Seahawks? By any measure, statistical or otherwise, the Seahawks are far from a top offense. They scored the most points of their season against us. They scored 20 points against the Cardinals the week before they played the Rams. They scored more against the Rams then they did against the Raiders, Lions, Chargers, and Cowboys. That’s not a good mark. So to say the numbers back up the idea that the D played well “in the rest of their games”... is simply incorrect.

I’d say the D’s best performance was against the Chargers. Unfortunately, that’s pretty much the only good performance they had against a respectable offensive team. Unfortunately that’s the game where we lost Talib, and it’s impacted our team horribly.

That's just not reality though. The good teams will beat the crappy teams handily. When two top, evenly matched offenses get together, points will be scored rather than blowouts on one side or another.

Again, the Seahawks game doesn’t fit into this narrative.


The Packers D isn't very good, neither are teh Chargers, Saints. The Vikings are a good defense.

I'm not comparing defenses. I'm saying those teams don't have good defenses to begin with. And for the Saints, they are ranked 25th in yards allowed and 23rd in points allowed. That's not good.

The Rams had a bad performance yesterday and fell to 13th in yards allowed, and 14th in points allowed. Prior to yesterday they were top 10 in those categories. They haven't been bad this year.

One bad game shouldn't blanket over the season so far.

This actually makes my point. This D is performing under expectations. The fact that part of your original point was to say “other top offensive teams are giving up a lot of points” and then mentioning specific examples of such teams (2 of whom, the Saints and Packers, have defenses that were unquestionably less well regarded then our D) inherently is making a comparison - in other words, “we’re not the only one!” And as I pointed out, the Vikings D is the only other D that has been as similarly disappointing as ours vs. preseason expectations.

If you think this D is acceptable, we just have to agree to disagree. Believe it or not, I take no pleasure in debating about this, but at this point we’re going in circles. Coming into this season, it was expected that this D would be something we could hang our hat on - that we could win shootouts, but also defensive battles if our O had an off game. We just aren’t there. Maybe things will get better when Talib returns.

I still see 13-3

Imo can’t lose to the chiefs. Losing to both saints and chiefs would be quite worrisome going into playoffs. Losing to a lesser team or two and you can toss it up to a slip up or they had a great game plan, etc. but losing to the two best teams on your schedule does not look good st all for a contender

Celebration Thread: Rams @ Saints

I can't agree about the 4-1 with Seattle and KC still ahead of us, especially KC.

4 of 5 on the road including Seattle on the road, GB at home when they've just come off of a bye week and were healthy and the NO in NO.

Yeah, that was our gauntlet. Do we have tough games? sure, 3 of the remaining 6 games are tough looking games... Seattle at home, KC in Mexico City and the Bears in Chicago.

Honestly, the game that worries me most is the Bears game since the weather in Chicago in December is wicked unpredictable.

Can Gerald Everett take the next step like Higbee

We need to continue to keep slowly adding snaps for Everett and develop him. Maybe come playoff time we can count on him a tad more and be able to use 21 personnel w/ confidence for short stretches of the game to stress the defenses out. But it does feel like Everett is starting to come along the last few games. So lets not over load him. Lets add his snap count so come playoff time he will feel comfortable being on the field more.
Not sure I'm saying this right. But it sure would be nice come playoff time McVay feels the need to unleash his 21 personnel sets. Run and pass out of this formation!!! :mrburnsevil:

Peter King: 11/5/18

Only Rams/Saints comments are posted. To read the rest of the article click the link below. Btw Peter King is on cloud 9 because his beloved Patriots and his mancrush Tom Brady are doing well. So be forewarned.
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...packers-tom-brady-fmia-nfl-week-9-peter-king/

By Peter King

Saints-Rams

Now you know why the Saints want to be home in January

It’s not just Seattle that’s a decibel graveyard for visitors in very big games. If you heard the crowd in the Superdome on Sunday for the visit of the previously undefeated Rams, you know why home-field advantage in the NFC is so important.

“You could feel it be a factor,” said tight end Benjamin Watson from New Orleans an hour after the Saints’ rollicking 45-35 win over the Rams. “We certainly got energy from it.”

Nine years ago, the Saints discovered what home-field in the NFC meant. The Superdome gave them a jolt in a divisional playoff rout of Arizona, and blew away some Vikings in the stunning NFC Championship win a week later. There are three prime contenders for top seed in the NFC—the 8-1 Rams, 7-1 Saints and 6-2 Panthers—but none would have a home-field edge like the Saints would.

I think the NFC home-field team will have no more than three losses.

The Rams have the toughest single game left—in Mexico two weeks from tonight against the 8-1 Chiefs. But there’s only one other team with a current winning record, Chicago (5-3). Finishing with the Cards and Niners helps tremendously.

The Saints, obviously, will have the tiebreaker edge against Los Angeles by virtue of Sunday’s head-to-head win. But they have a game against Atlanta and finish with a tough trio (at Carolina, Pittsburgh at home, Carolina at home).

The Panthers have a short-week Thursday-nighter at Pittsburgh, winners of four straight, this week. And they finish thusly: Saints, Falcons, at Saints. And Carolina has to catch up and pass two one-loss teams.

“The Rams did a great job of coming back from 18 points down today,” Watson said. “They’re a really good team. We have a lot of weapons too. The one thing I like when I watch our team practice is how hard the young guys work. They know what it takes to be great. Every play in practice, Michael Thomas runs full-speed with the ball, just like it’s a game.”

Watching a good bit of that Saints’ win here before Pack-Pats, it’s hard not to wish for a January rematch. Imagine title games of New England at Kansas City, and New Orleans at Los Angeles. There were 83 points in the first game between those AFC foes Oct. 14. There were 80 points scored Sunday in Rams-Saints.

That doubleheader would be a referendum on whether the league needs to put defense back in pro football. My guess: The NFL would sign up (and root for) 43-40 and 45-35 conference title games. Right now.
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Offensive Players of the Week

Michael Thomas, wide receiver, New Orleans. His dumb touchdown celebration aside—he’s lucky it didn’t hurt the Saints more than it did—Thomas had one of the greatest games a New Orleans receiver has ever had. His 211 yards (on 12 catches) set a franchise record and his 72-yard catch-and-run touchdown sealed the first loss for the Rams this season. What a day for New Orleans, which loud and clearly announced itself as a favorite to represent the NFC in Super Bowl 53 in Atlanta.
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Los Angeles football: 14-3. New York football: 4-13.
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MVP Watch

3. Todd Gurley, RB, L.A. Rams. Last week: 2. His first mortal game of the year—79 scrimmage yards and one touchdown. But he’s been so good for so long he drops only spot.
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Well, Marcus Peters sure got Breesed on that last touchdown pass to Michael Thomas.

My overall observations about the game

I was up late last night and the coffee hasn't kicked in yet. So I'll give my abbreviated take on yesterday's game. The defense sucked. The offense didn't.
The Ram's D didn't play well enough for the Rams to deserve the win. But the biggest take from the game IMO, is the NFL officiating is horrendous. I want to watch the actual sport of football, fairly played and officiated, and not the incompetent and narrative-driven BS officiating of the sports entertainment NFL.

Rams at Saints

Come on bro.

They didn't play "as badly as they could have" that's hyperbole! You don't come back from 21 down and play bad...and lets not forget a very important first down was stolen at an important point in the game. The Rams definitely didn't play their best though...I grant you that.
Actually he should have said ... The defense played about as bad as they could in the first half...

And we still came back to make it a game.

And Cooks was held on that last play.

They called it on Peters in the first series how come they didn't call it then for the Rams

Crappy Refs

We are now 0-7 when Vinodouche refs. Coincidence?

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