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I’m about done with the NFL.

That's the thing. The rule was changed because common sense should prevail over the specific rule (made obvious on the Dez Bryant catch/non-catch). But what happened here was the opposite. An ever MORE clear catch and fumble was ruled INCOMPLETE, whistled dead (which refs are supposedly told NOT to do so that replay can save a TD return), THEN was substantiated by Riveron's on-crack team, THEN was backed up the guy the network puts in the booth by request of the NFL to make their obvious steering of the outcome look justified.

I laughed when he claimed by rule this is not a catch. Umm, Really? Game. Set. Match. This was a catch and fumble a full step and football move earlier. And he knew it.

Did anyone notice that NOT ONCE did the schmuck in the booth disagree with the on-field call? Want to bet that if the review had been catch/fumble, he would have said "You can see clearly this is a catch and fumble. Great job by the crew to overturn that"...

If you're going to continue watching the NFL this year, keep track of how many times the booth/TV ref commentator agrees/disagrees. The league was pissed that reasonable analysis was happening by the TV ref, and they made the network use this as a tool to cover their blunders/plans.

Truly makes me sick.

it's irritating how they completely ignore parts of the rule to justify their decisions. the guy caught the ball, turned then took two steps before the ball was hit out of his hands. just turning signifies a football move. completely ignored by the network "expert".

i can tell you this, if the rams start sucking again the nfl won't get a cent from me because their game is utter bullshit. i hate how i'm drawn in by the rams when i know the product is crooked as hell. i guess it's because the rams play the game the right way.

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MNF: Ravens at Rams

Shout out to Ramball for inviting me to the game. We didn't have much to cheer about as the Ravens rolled over the Rams. six straight drives that ended in TDs, Depressing is too light a term.

It was evident to both of us from the start the Rams problems start with the OL. Everything starts up front. You can dis Goff, Gurley, coaching, but until the OL gets some bigger bodies and a nastier attitude, Rams problems will continue.
You can dis the defense, but when you're on the field most of the game of course you're gonna get gassed.

No push, no holes to run through, no control of the LOS. I'm sure McVay and Kromer know it and can't do anything about it until the off season. We're stuck with it til then.

Rams will be lucky to end the season with a winning record.

Jared Goff it is time take the Offense on your back!

Didn't see this posted.

This is an article about another article. The original article is mentioned in the other most active Goff thread. No harm no foul...but a likely thread merge.

GDT: The Late Games Week 12

Bellicheat is a genius. The little things. Discipline. Strategy and tactics. Notice the "pop up" short kick offs yesterday? Genius in the sloppy conditions though they didn't get a turnover they were close. I recall Dallas taking over in the shadow of their own end zone at least once and on the other hand, they got past the 25 at least once. But they "bobbled" the ball at least twice...genius tactic even though it didn't really pay off...this time. I wish we had BB. McVay is no BB...yet, but I love McVay and Billicheat is probably the only bawl coach I would take over McVay, plus his wife is hotter Than BB's GF...just an irrelevant observation, or is it?

Point is BB is the GOAT. I hate him and hope he gets cancer.

USC coaching rumors

Forced fumbles. Ohio State didn't just drop the ball. It's the best defense they played all year and their offense didn't look so dominant. Did you watch the whole game? The big difference in that game was Ohio States defense. It was stifling. They have four fifth year players and two Seniors. That is a ton of experience to go with talent. It will be interesting to see what their defense looks like next year, because they will lose nearly the whole unit this winter.

In the end the deciding factor is talent. I'm worried about the long term future with Franklin. After two excellent recruiting classes, this year he is regressing. The best PA recruits are going to Ohio State. Michigan has been raiding New Jersey, and the SEC and Clemson are pulling the top talent out of the DC area. It's suddenly becoming much more difficult for Franklin to pull in talent. This year's class is mostly three star recruits, while OSU's is four and five stars. I hope it isn't the start of a slide. Losing the bowl game to an inferior team last year didn't help.
Yes I watched the game, and am pretty unbiased. Was pulling for PSU because I would love to see chaos in the playoff.
OSU hasn't been challenged all year and it just seemed like they lost some intensity after going up 21-0. Fields fumble was questionable, and no disrespect to PSU but it is a fluke when teams fumble on back to back series

NFL to reportedly reconsider possibility of implementing wild onside kick idea that was originally shot down

So they can score on the kickoff (with a fumble). Alternatively, what if it bounced before the end zone but was recovered by the kicking team in the end zone? I believe there's no other way to end that but with a score. If it bounced, for the sake of argument, at the 2 yard line then went in the end zone. If it was then recovered by the kicking team in the end zone, what else could you do with it besides say the kicking team score. It wouldn't be a touch back because it's a live ball once it hits the ground. You can't spot it anywhere else because where would you and why? Even if we have to say, again for the sake of argument, that it hit the ground and then bounced off the leg of a receiving team player, them went into the end zone and was recovered by the kicking team. Didn't get advanced, just recovered in the end zone after becoming a live ball. Score, right?
If the ball landed outside the endzone but bounced into the endzone untouched by the return team I believe it still becomes a touchback. If it was touched by the return team outside the endzone but bounced inside inside then it would be a live ball that could be recovered for a score. If it's kicked into the endzone and the returner tries to catch it but muffs the catch it also becomes a live ball, (which is why I get so annoyed when Natson tries to catch the kickoff in the endzone when he has no intention of returning it. Why take a tiny risk if there's 0 chance of a reward?).

Ultimately the kicking team can score...but only if the return team assists them. I guess if there's 1 second left in the game the return team shouldn't put any players on the field.

Last I checked.... WE ARE THE F-ING DEFENDING NFC CHAMPS!

Naw...naw...naw... you're getting it wrong. Let the media pukes spew their admiration for the Ravens. Let them say how good and how much better than everyone they are. How it's a foregone conclusion that the Ravens already have a 9-2 record. Old LA can't keep up. Let them sing it through the land where the young Ravens start believing this. I mean the Ravens have the 49ers next, so the "challenge of the Rams won't be a problem........
And then Monday night.....those confident Ravens run into a buzzsaw called the Rams defense. And the Ravens defense gets pushed around the field by the Rams revamped line. And that guy with the bad knee runs rampant through, around and over them. And when the dust clear.....the Ravens don't understand what happened....but they ain't 9-2.......
Go Rams.

Lets talk about the Ravens...

Game Preview: Rams host Ravens seeking to move to 3-0 on MNF under McVay

The Rams (6-4) and the Ravens (8-2) will square off at 5:15 pacific time on Monday, with Los Angeles looking to move to 3-0 on Monday Night Football under head coach Sean McVay.

The two teams last met in the regular season on November 22, 2015 in Baltimore. Overall, it will be just the seventh regular season meeting between them.

To get you ready for the contest, theRams.com compiled a quick preview featuring who to watch, what to watch for on offense and defense for both the Rams and the Ravens and three keys to victory for L.A.

Five players to watch
  • Rams S Eric Weddle: He won't be sharing insight on the Ravens out of respect to his former teammates, but even with keeping those details to himself, Weddle will likely still have an idea internally on how he should defend some of Baltimore's playmakers.
  • Rams DT Aaron Donald: Disrupting the Ravens' league-best rushing attack starts with him.
  • Ravens QB Lamar Jackson: This one shouldn't come as a surprise. Rams CB Jalen Ramsey called Jackson the "front-runner for MVP."
  • Ravens CB Marcus Peters: He has two interceptions in four games with Baltimore, and both have been returned for touchdowns.
  • Rams WR Brandin Cooks: The offense should benefit from his return.
What to watch for…

On offense for the Rams


RB Todd Gurley's workload. He had a season-high 25 carries for 97 yards and one touchdown against the Bears defense, which, similar to the Ravens defense, entered last Sunday's game with a top 10 run defense. It's a small sample size, but it showed the Rams were able to lean on him against one of the league's best run-stopping teams.

On offense for the Ravens

Jackson and RB Mark Ingram rightly deserve the bulk of the attention, given that they're both big reasons why the Ravens have the No. 1 rushing offense in the NFL. However, that doesn't mean Ravens receivers should be ignored.

Baltimore is generating big plays in the passing game, too, and often times rookie WR Marquise Brown and second-year TE Mark Andrews are on the receiving end of those.

Andrews is the Ravens' leading receiver with 598 yards, averaging 12.5 yards per catch, followed by Brown with 477. Brown is averaging a team-high 15.9 yards per catch.
On defense for the Rams

The number of risks taken, or if they opt for a more cautious approach instead.

Blitz and the load the box often in an attempt to prevent Jackson from beating you with his legs – or Ingram's effectiveness in the run game – and L.A.'s defense is still vulnerable to an explosive play through the air via Jackson's arm. Sit back and try to prevent the deep ball, and Baltimore rides its run game.

There's a balance somewhere in between the two methods, and that will be something to keep an eye on.

On defense for the Ravens

Besides Peters, third-year CB Marlon Humphrey is another member of the Ravens' secondary to pay attention to. He's got the 24th-best coverage grade out of 190 corners evaluated by Pro Football Focus this season.

LB Matthew Judon has led the charge for Baltimore's pass rush with a team-high six sacks and figures to be a key assignment for the Rams' offensive line as a result.

Three keys to victory
  1. Contain Jackson: He's going to make plays, but it will be critical to prevent the explosive ones.
  2. Control the time of possession: The best way to contain Jackson is by keeping the ball out of his hands and making him a spectator as long as possible. This also places extra importance on establishing the run game.
  3. Take some shots in the passing game: Similar to the Bears defense, if there's one area where the Rams can afford to take some risks, it's through the air. Big plays by Gurley and wide receivers Cooper Kupp and Josh Reynolds via QB Jared Goff helped set up scoring opportunities for the Rams offense against the Bears last week.

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