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Lol who is Kyle shanahan going to hire to his staff this late in the league year? Coordinators and position coaches will be all but dried up by the end of the superbowl
 
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Absorbing the media about and around this hire and this team, it's hard not to be excited. McVay is undeniably an arresting presence. He talks fluidly and energetically, and you feel smarter just by listening to him. While undoubtedly the media has been generally selected to present the man in a positive light, press-conferences and (to a lesser extent) player-testimonials are not easily faked. This is an electric guy who comes with the recommendations of all he's worked with, and who most importantly matches up to the stories and praise when placed in the spotlight. What's more, he brings Wade. He keeps Fassel.

A lot of us had this idea that Shanahan was probably the guy. He's shown the ability to coordinate successful offenses. He's been in a variety of situations and found success in all of them.

When comparing him to McVay, it's concerning that one guy gets plaudits and adoration from coaches and players alike (McVay), while with another (Shanny), it's mostly "well, we can all see that he devises a killer offense." It's hard to deduce the magnitude, but we can agree there are signs out there that Shanahan is not an easy guy to cooperate with. He might be a brilliant offensive mind, but a head coach in this situation is going to need to be able to get along with others, inspire others, and integrate the input of trusted coaches and players. Maintaining a stable and healthy environment from the front-office to the meeting rooms to the practice field will be crucial in order to sustain the kind of growth we have to experience over the next pair of seasons to become a true and consistent winner; it will be as crucial as the actual game-strategies (which I don't want to downplay: I believe in McVay and Wade Philips as game-planners and strategists).

There is no guarantee that ultimately either of these guys will be successful head coaches now or ever. In my opinion, however, the obvious choice between the two for the sake of culture and growth is McVay. He shows the mind and attitude of a teacher and a football-counselor. If our team was the Broncos after John Fox, and we had veterans and established leaders, maybe that's when you look for someone like Kyle Shanahan to give you a two-year stint in an effort to climb through that championship window. But the fact that they selected McVay (30 years old) before they were able to sit down with Shanny (37 years old) doesn't bother me at all. It's like watching your ideal draft pick fall in your lap. You don't get greedy and trade back, only to watch another team give you a wink and take your guy. You trust your eyes and analysis, and you select him. That's what they've done, and I'm pretty confident it was the best choice they could've made.
 
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Corbin said:
I know everybody is on the Kool Aid wagon but I have serious reservations about McVay as well. I wish we would of went Shannahan with his father in management.

I guess the bonus is we did get Wade Phillips and someone smart enough to keep Bones around which I admit is
encouraging.

The reason why we hired him is "because when you talked to other people around the league they describe McVay as 'special'."

That really doesn't make sense to me to hire him as a head coach. He might be a decent offensive mind but couple that with his inexperience I don't see this playing out well.

Offensive genius doesn't always work out if you draft horrible. (i.e. Mad Mike) God I hope I'm just jaded by the last 10+ years and being overly paranoid here! Lol

Just seriously concerned with this hire and glad to see a few others being concerned as well so I don't feel like a negative crazy ass.
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No, no... you're still a negative crazy ass, all right :LOL::LOL::LOL: But that's okay, brother. We got you!!!

The reason you only see 50 sets of footprints instead of 51? That's us carrying you...
 
For all the people pining for the Shanny's....what makes you think he (they) would have chosen the Rams over the Niners anyway? Should the Rams have sat on their hands and let the coaching carousel run it's course only to be left with nobody when the music stopped?

Me? I like McVay. I live in the DC area and have been hearing a ton of good stuff about this guy for the past couple of years now. He appears to have all of the qualities you would want in a young head coach. He's smart and personable, but also appears to be focused and ready for the challenge. Kyle Shannahan does not come off as a leader of men to me. McVay does. At the HC position, that is critical IMO.
 
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Faceplant said:
For all the people pining for the Shanny's....what makes you think he (they) would have chosen the Rams over the Niners anyway? Should the Rams have sat on their hands and let the coaching carousel run it's course only to be left with nobody when the music stopped?

Me? I like McVay. I live in the DC area and have been hearing a ton of good stuff about this guy for the past couple of years now. He appears to have all of the qualities you would want in a young head coach. He's smart and personable, but also appears to be focused and ready for the challenge. Kyle Shannahan does not come off as a leader of men to me. McVay does. At the HC position, that is critical IMO.
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We'll know more in about two - three years.

Until then, McVay is our HC. Let's see what happens now.
 
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shaunpinney said:
- as we say in Wales "Oedd yna drwg yn y caws" which basically translates as there's something bad in the cheese which doesn't really make sense in English
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Either does "Bobs your uncle" unless you know the story.
Can you do that phonetically?
 
Ram_Rally said:
Lol who is Kyle shanahan going to hire to his staff this late in the league year? Coordinators and position coaches will be all but dried up by the end of the superbowl
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Sure Fisher will be available still.
 
Mackeyser said:
No, no... you're still a negative crazy ass, all right :LOL::LOL::LOL: But that's okay, brother. We got you!!!

The reason you only see 50 sets of footprints instead of 51? That's us carrying you...
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Lmao @Mackeyser thanks for confirming me a negative ass clown!

Btw I gained some weight so you might be struggling here soon!
 
Corbin said:
I know everybody is on the Kool Aid wagon but I have serious reservations about McVay as well. I wish we would of went Shannahan with his father in management.

I guess the bonus is we did get Wade Phillips and someone smart enough to keep Bones around which I admit is encouraging.

Offensive genius doesn't always work out if you draft horrible. (i.e. Mad Mike) God I hope I'm just jaded by the last 10+ years and being overly paranoid here! Lol

Just seriously concerned with this hire and glad to see a few others being concerned as well so I don't feel like a negative crazy ass.
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The simple truth is that unless you're getting a proven coach, you have no idea what the results will be. Hell, even then, you're not guaranteed of anything. Fisher was a proven coach.

McVay has a couple things clearly going for him that make success a lot more likely:
1. He has put together a great staff of experienced coaches. Based on what we've heard, he's managed to get the #1 DC on the market, the #1 OL Coach on the market, the #1 Special Teams Coach on the market, and a QB Coach with a hell of a lot of experience as an offensive coordinator. Additionally, his DC, OL Coach, and Special Teams Coach all have NFL HC experience. The most important thing that a head coach can do is surround himself with a quality and experienced staff of assistants. McVay has succeeded in that respect.

2. McVay's leadership skills have been praised by every player and coach who have spoken about him. I haven't heard a single negative word uttered about the guy.

The two most important things to succeeding as a NFL HC are surrounding yourself with a great staff and being capable of leading a NFL locker room.

It seems that McVay checks both those boxes.

Success isn't guaranteed. We might come to find out that McVay isn't capable of leading as a NFL HC. But as it stands now, we have a lot of reasons to be optimistic.

The reason why we hired him is "because when you talked to other people around the league they describe McVay as 'special'."

That really doesn't make sense to me to hire him as a head coach. He might be a decent offensive mind but couple that with his inexperience I don't see this playing out well.
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That's not the reason we hired him. That's the reason we interviewed him. He came in for two interviews and even met with Jared Goff. We hired him based on his interviews.

We'll see if it was the right move. At the end of the day, it's all crapshoot anyways. Unlike our past few coaches, he has hired a veteran staff and an expert to handle the side of the ball he's not familiar with.(Fisher hired a veteran staff but chose not to hire an offensive expert)
 
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(Fisher hired a veteran staff but chose not to hire an offensive expert)
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Looks like a offensive savant to me! :rolllaugh:


I hear you and great post. I really do like his hires so far except I'm not familiar with our new o line coach one bit admittingly.

I think having a wonder boy cord who had a hot season or two and then we hire them as a coach just fried me with Spags and Linehan but I don't feel that way with Shannahan even though it's the truth. Maybe it's the age and experience thing and I'm being a hippocrit due to my own experiences professionally. I don't know.

I will say I'm impressed he kept Bones. Most guys have ego on having " their guys" running stuff. That gives me hope he wants the best out there.
Let's pray he gets our offense going and the rest will come together.

Any chance you think they unretire Big O? Haha
 
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The thing that sold me on McVay is the fact that he seems like a delegator by hiring strong assistant coaches in Phillips, Bones, etc. That's an important quality for a head coach to have.

Conversely, Fisher and (especially) Spags seemed like micro-managers by instead, hiring people who they knew they wouldn't clash with.
 
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I'm hella excited because the Only way we become a winning team is if we can maximize the talent of Goff.

McVay gives us the best chance of doing that.

That Washington QB is basically Keenum, in terms of arm strength.
 
Corbin said:
I know everybody is on the Kool Aid wagon but I have serious reservations about McVay as well. I wish we would of went Shannahan with his father in management.

I guess the bonus is we did get Wade Phillips and someone smart enough to keep Bones around which I admit is encouraging.

The reason why we hired him is "because when you talked to other people around the league they describe McVay as 'special'."

That really doesn't make sense to me to hire him as a head coach. He might be a decent offensive mind but couple that with his inexperience I don't see this playing out well.

Offensive genius doesn't always work out if you draft horrible. (i.e. Mad Mike) God I hope I'm just jaded by the last 10+ years and being overly paranoid here! Lol

Just seriously concerned with this hire and glad to see a few others being concerned as well so I don't feel like a negative crazy ass.
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I would agree with you but... the league has turned into a passing league. Pretty soon they'll be wearing skirts and the receivers will be yelling about inappropriate touching.

To win the NFL is to have a top tier QB.

McVay gives us a chance.
 
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