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Mixed emotion about the release of so many players
- By Alaskan Ram
- RAMS / NFL TALK
- 18 Replies
As long as there are horns on the helmets and blue in the uniform I'll never be cured. Simple stuff. Ultimately my fandom is not that complicated...or is it?
There is so much turn-over on this team since the McVay hire, I don't feel like I know this team.
I'm a little bummed that I can't "shoot the shit" ~bar stool style~ about this team with fellow posters like days past.
Instead I find myself checking in here everyday just to stay informed about this team. It's the only way I'll eventually get to know them.
As much as I'm sad to see so many of the players I've rooted for go, I ultimately do need more "thrill of victories" in 2017.
I'm going to chalk the mixed emotion I'm feeling lately as strait up flatulence.
Go Rams!
There is so much turn-over on this team since the McVay hire, I don't feel like I know this team.
I'm a little bummed that I can't "shoot the shit" ~bar stool style~ about this team with fellow posters like days past.
Instead I find myself checking in here everyday just to stay informed about this team. It's the only way I'll eventually get to know them.
As much as I'm sad to see so many of the players I've rooted for go, I ultimately do need more "thrill of victories" in 2017.
I'm going to chalk the mixed emotion I'm feeling lately as strait up flatulence.
Go Rams!
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Kaepernick and RG3: Is There Anything Left?
- By Prime Time
- RAMS / NFL TALK
- 161 Replies
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/03/15/nfl-colin-kaepernick-robert-griffin-iii-free-agent-quarterbacks
Kaepernick and RG3: Is There Anything Left?
Colin Kaepernick and Robert Griffin III changed the quarterback position in 2012 and seemed destined to dominate for years, but their magic turned out to be fleeting. Now free agents facing a soft market, both could be out of football this fall
by Andy Benoit
Photo: Michael Zagaris/San Francisco 49ers/Getty Images :: Frank Jansky/Icon Sportswire/Getty Images
There has been a deluge of veteran quarterback moves since free agency opened on March 9. Several teams still have dire needs at the position. And yet we’ve barely heard a peep about free agent Colin Kaepernick. There’s one conspicuous reason why, and it has nothing to do with him not standing for the national anthem last year. It has everything to do with him not standing firm in the pocket.
We might as well bring Robert Griffin III into the conversation, too. He was released by the Browns earlier this week and appears destined to also watch from the sidelines while the QB market shakes out.
Both players had enchanting seasons in 2012. Griffin was the offensive rookie of the year, and Kaepernick became a starter midway through the season and led the 49ers to Super Bowl 47. Neither has come close to recapturing his magic.
There’s a simple explanation.
In 2012, both players presented threats with their legs in ways the NFL had never seen. Griffin ran the read-option. So did Kaepernick, though he was more dangerous as a scrambler. Over time, however, NFL defenses learned how to adjust to these mobile quarterbacks.
This is why playing in the pocket is so crucial. A quarterback can’t rely primarily on his legs. He must be able to drop back and make throws from behind his O-line. We hear this all the time, but nobody actually ever explains why. Let’s change that by further evaluating the Kaepernick/RG3 predicament.
In the NFL, the defenders are extremely smart and athletic, so everything happens fast. Dropping straight back and throwing is the most efficient way to counter this speed. It’s also the safest way. A quarterback at the top of his drop is squarely behind his three interior offensive linemen and flanked by his two biggest linemen, the tackles. He’s also at the physical point farthest away from both edge rushers, usually the defense’s most dangerous attackers.
Behind this five-man wall, not only is a quarterback not getting sacked, but he’s also less likely to have to throw with bodies around him. That makes a world of difference for arm strength and accuracy.
Even the best pass-protection can still leak, of course, which is why part of pocket passing is having the footwork and poise to subtly move in the pocket. In many ways, a quarterback is as responsible as the offensive line for the cleanliness of his throwing platform.
This is where Kaepernick and Griffin get into trouble. Both have a tendency to anticipate pressure that hasn’t arrived yet. They’ll take their eyes off the field and look at pass-rushers. They’ll break down when no one is around, converting themselves from would-be throwers into randomized scramblers. Often, no running lanes exist here, so this scrambling quickly leads to sacks or contested throwaways.
All of this ruins a play’s timing, which nullifies the offense’s best chance at counteracting the defense’s speed. Yes, occasionally you’ll see a quarterback break down, go off schedule and make a spectacular play. Think Russell Wilson and, especially, Aaron Rodgers.
But not Kaepernick or Griffin. Look closely and you see that neither is as proficient on the move as their styles of play suggest. Kaepernick is hindered by a long, angular throwing motion; Griffin simply has no idea of how to protect himself.
It’s no coincidence that the best pocket passers tend to be the best field readers. The two go hand in hand. Which brings us to the geometry of football. In addition to keeping an offensive play on schedule, a pocket passer also ensures the integrity of the angles in the passing game. He makes every eligible receiver a threat.
This is crucial in the NFL, where the hash marks are closer together than college and the ball, therefore, is always spotted almost right down the middle. You need a quarterback who can survey and attack the entire landscape from there.
As we’ve covered, Kaepernick and Griffin don’t have sufficient pocket poise to give themselves a chance to survey. Even if they did, there’s no evidence they would. As throwers, both struggle with timing and anticipation. And, based on how they look on film, both seem to have a disconnect with why a play is called. Too often you see basic designs with basic route combinations going unrecognized.
When that happens, life becomes difficult for the other 10 guys on offense. Linemen can’t be sure what pass-blocking technique to employ because they can’t trust that the man behind them will be where he’s supposed to be or throw when he’s supposed to throw. Receivers stop trusting that the ball will come to them when it should (should meaning either “on time” or “at all”), which eventually impacts their execution.
There are many flawed quarterbacks still on the market: Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jay Cutler, Geno Smith, Josh McCown. But these QBs at least have a demonstrated ability to play in the pocket. It’s infinitely easier to plug one of these guys in than it is to plug in Kaepernick and Griffin.
This raises an interesting question: Will either Kaepernick or Griffin even be in the league in 2017? Though blemished, both are still talented enough to be on rosters. However, their playing styles are so unique that they’d change an offense’s entire identity upon taking the field.
Ideally, you want your backup quarterback’s skill set to be similar to your starter’s. Unless it’s the Bills, who go to great lengths to accommodate Tyrod Taylor’s similar pocket-passing woes, no offense will be a natural fit for Kaepernick or Griffin.
We said it last year—wrongly, as it turned out—but it’s worth saying again: It’s possible we’ve seen the last of these guys.
Kaepernick and RG3: Is There Anything Left?
Colin Kaepernick and Robert Griffin III changed the quarterback position in 2012 and seemed destined to dominate for years, but their magic turned out to be fleeting. Now free agents facing a soft market, both could be out of football this fall
by Andy Benoit
Photo: Michael Zagaris/San Francisco 49ers/Getty Images :: Frank Jansky/Icon Sportswire/Getty Images
There has been a deluge of veteran quarterback moves since free agency opened on March 9. Several teams still have dire needs at the position. And yet we’ve barely heard a peep about free agent Colin Kaepernick. There’s one conspicuous reason why, and it has nothing to do with him not standing for the national anthem last year. It has everything to do with him not standing firm in the pocket.
We might as well bring Robert Griffin III into the conversation, too. He was released by the Browns earlier this week and appears destined to also watch from the sidelines while the QB market shakes out.
Both players had enchanting seasons in 2012. Griffin was the offensive rookie of the year, and Kaepernick became a starter midway through the season and led the 49ers to Super Bowl 47. Neither has come close to recapturing his magic.
There’s a simple explanation.
In 2012, both players presented threats with their legs in ways the NFL had never seen. Griffin ran the read-option. So did Kaepernick, though he was more dangerous as a scrambler. Over time, however, NFL defenses learned how to adjust to these mobile quarterbacks.
This is why playing in the pocket is so crucial. A quarterback can’t rely primarily on his legs. He must be able to drop back and make throws from behind his O-line. We hear this all the time, but nobody actually ever explains why. Let’s change that by further evaluating the Kaepernick/RG3 predicament.
In the NFL, the defenders are extremely smart and athletic, so everything happens fast. Dropping straight back and throwing is the most efficient way to counter this speed. It’s also the safest way. A quarterback at the top of his drop is squarely behind his three interior offensive linemen and flanked by his two biggest linemen, the tackles. He’s also at the physical point farthest away from both edge rushers, usually the defense’s most dangerous attackers.
Behind this five-man wall, not only is a quarterback not getting sacked, but he’s also less likely to have to throw with bodies around him. That makes a world of difference for arm strength and accuracy.
Even the best pass-protection can still leak, of course, which is why part of pocket passing is having the footwork and poise to subtly move in the pocket. In many ways, a quarterback is as responsible as the offensive line for the cleanliness of his throwing platform.
This is where Kaepernick and Griffin get into trouble. Both have a tendency to anticipate pressure that hasn’t arrived yet. They’ll take their eyes off the field and look at pass-rushers. They’ll break down when no one is around, converting themselves from would-be throwers into randomized scramblers. Often, no running lanes exist here, so this scrambling quickly leads to sacks or contested throwaways.
All of this ruins a play’s timing, which nullifies the offense’s best chance at counteracting the defense’s speed. Yes, occasionally you’ll see a quarterback break down, go off schedule and make a spectacular play. Think Russell Wilson and, especially, Aaron Rodgers.
But not Kaepernick or Griffin. Look closely and you see that neither is as proficient on the move as their styles of play suggest. Kaepernick is hindered by a long, angular throwing motion; Griffin simply has no idea of how to protect himself.
It’s no coincidence that the best pocket passers tend to be the best field readers. The two go hand in hand. Which brings us to the geometry of football. In addition to keeping an offensive play on schedule, a pocket passer also ensures the integrity of the angles in the passing game. He makes every eligible receiver a threat.
This is crucial in the NFL, where the hash marks are closer together than college and the ball, therefore, is always spotted almost right down the middle. You need a quarterback who can survey and attack the entire landscape from there.
As we’ve covered, Kaepernick and Griffin don’t have sufficient pocket poise to give themselves a chance to survey. Even if they did, there’s no evidence they would. As throwers, both struggle with timing and anticipation. And, based on how they look on film, both seem to have a disconnect with why a play is called. Too often you see basic designs with basic route combinations going unrecognized.
When that happens, life becomes difficult for the other 10 guys on offense. Linemen can’t be sure what pass-blocking technique to employ because they can’t trust that the man behind them will be where he’s supposed to be or throw when he’s supposed to throw. Receivers stop trusting that the ball will come to them when it should (should meaning either “on time” or “at all”), which eventually impacts their execution.
There are many flawed quarterbacks still on the market: Ryan Fitzpatrick, Jay Cutler, Geno Smith, Josh McCown. But these QBs at least have a demonstrated ability to play in the pocket. It’s infinitely easier to plug one of these guys in than it is to plug in Kaepernick and Griffin.
This raises an interesting question: Will either Kaepernick or Griffin even be in the league in 2017? Though blemished, both are still talented enough to be on rosters. However, their playing styles are so unique that they’d change an offense’s entire identity upon taking the field.
Ideally, you want your backup quarterback’s skill set to be similar to your starter’s. Unless it’s the Bills, who go to great lengths to accommodate Tyrod Taylor’s similar pocket-passing woes, no offense will be a natural fit for Kaepernick or Griffin.
We said it last year—wrongly, as it turned out—but it’s worth saying again: It’s possible we’ve seen the last of these guys.
1 YR-3M for L.Dunbar?
- By Juggs
- RAMS / NFL TALK
- 57 Replies
Maybe I have Madden numbers in my mind, but why the hell do you pay 3M for Dunbar?
Happy 26th Birthday to Tavon Austin
- By Prime Time
- RAMS / NFL TALK
- 9 Replies
Hey Tavon if you're reading this...
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Dont'a Hightower re-signs with Cheats
- By Legatron4
- RAMS / NFL TALK
- 8 Replies
Whoops. Sorry about the spelling error 
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...hightower-to-sign-fouryear-deal-with-patriots
It turns out that Dont'a Hightower isn't leaving New England after all.
The star linebacker is staying with the Patriots, his representation announced Wednesday. The contract is worth $43.5 million over four years and includes $19 million guaranteed, Hightower's agent told NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport.
Hightower spent his first five seasons in New England.
Around The NFL will have more on Hightower's new contract soon.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...hightower-to-sign-fouryear-deal-with-patriots
It turns out that Dont'a Hightower isn't leaving New England after all.
The star linebacker is staying with the Patriots, his representation announced Wednesday. The contract is worth $43.5 million over four years and includes $19 million guaranteed, Hightower's agent told NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport.
Hightower spent his first five seasons in New England.
Around The NFL will have more on Hightower's new contract soon.
Ravens trade their starting center to the 49ers
- By Prime Time
- RAMS / NFL TALK
- 50 Replies
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/15/report-ravens-releasing-jeremy-zuttah/
Report: Ravens releasing Jeremy Zuttah
Posted by Josh Alper on March 15, 2017
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The Ravens lost one starter from their offensive line when right tackle Rick Wagner signed with the Lions and they are reportedly losing another one by choice.
Aditi Kinkhabwala of NFL Media reports that the team is going to release center Jeremy Zuttah, age 30. Zuttah was set to make a $3.5 million base salary in 2017 and his departure would give the team just under $2.4 million in cap space.
Zuttah started 41 games for the Ravens over the last three seasons and played every game last season. He also spent several years as a starter in Tampa after the Buccaneers took him with the 83rd pick in the 2008 draft.
The Ravens also saw guard Vladimir Ducasse leave for Buffalo and haven’t added any offensive linemen to the roster in free agency thus far, which is something they could remedy in the coming days or via the draft next month.
Report: Ravens releasing Jeremy Zuttah
Posted by Josh Alper on March 15, 2017
The Ravens lost one starter from their offensive line when right tackle Rick Wagner signed with the Lions and they are reportedly losing another one by choice.
Aditi Kinkhabwala of NFL Media reports that the team is going to release center Jeremy Zuttah, age 30. Zuttah was set to make a $3.5 million base salary in 2017 and his departure would give the team just under $2.4 million in cap space.
Zuttah started 41 games for the Ravens over the last three seasons and played every game last season. He also spent several years as a starter in Tampa after the Buccaneers took him with the 83rd pick in the 2008 draft.
The Ravens also saw guard Vladimir Ducasse leave for Buffalo and haven’t added any offensive linemen to the roster in free agency thus far, which is something they could remedy in the coming days or via the draft next month.
PressureD41 Mock Draft 1.0 post Combine
- By PressureD41
- NFL DRAFT / COLLEGE FOOTBALL
- 10 Replies
Rams Free Agent Signings:
Kayvon Webster CB (Projects as our #2 starting CB Boundary)
Greg Zuerlein K
Ryan Groy C (hoping he doesn't get matched by the Bills)
Benny Cunningham resigns 2y 6m
NFL Draft:
Rd 2.37 Zay Jones WR E. Carolina
Zay Jones
Production 1
Height-Weight-Speed 2
Durability 1
Intangibles 2
1 = EXCEPTIONAL2 = ABOVE AVERAGE3 = AVERAGE4 = BELOW AVERAGE5 = MARGINAL
Wide Receiver Specific Traits
Separation Skills 2 Very good combination of height, weight and speed. Good acceleration off the line. Savvy vertical route runner. Effective using his bigger frame to shield. Shows good feel for locating soft spots in zone coverage. Also does a good job of working back to QB once initial play breaks down. Will need to master full NFL route tree after playing in "Air Raid
Ball Skills 2 Bigger target with longer arms (32 1/4") and average hand span (9"). Does a good job locating the ball and adjusting. Better than average body control. Occasional drop on tape but solid overall drop percentage. Soft hands and consistently shows ability to pluck on the run. A natural at plucking the ball on the run. Great job locating deep ball over his shoulder and adjusting to off-target throws (1:38 1st QTR vs. Va. Tech is good example)
Big play ability 2 Good acceleration off the line. Top-end speed is good but not elite. Shows ability to challenge most CBs vertically and at least get in position to compete for the ball. Wins higher-than-average percentage of jump balls. Impressive tracking/adjusting to deep ball. Transitions quickly upfield after the catch. Shows good acceleration to exploit a crease. Not overly elusive but can make first defender miss with stop-go move or a sharp cut. Competitive runner after the catch, as well.Doesn't dance much. Finished 2nd in Power 5 in yards after catch in 2016. Has experience as a return specialist (during first three seasons).
Competitiveness 1 Highly competitive player. Shows no fear working middle of field. Good awareness (knows where the first down marker is, knows when to get out of bounds when in hurry-up mode, etc.). Not overpowering as a runner but lowers his shoulders, initiates contact and usually falls forward at the end of touches. Can be an effective blocker. Usually gets in good initial position and makes solid first contact, but will struggle to sustain at times. Effort is solid but can improve. Needs to continue to get stronger, as well. Good ball security. Covers it up in traffic. Only two fumbles (one lost) on 399 career receptions -- and he has not fumbled since 2014.
1 = EXCEPTIONAL2 = ABOVE AVERAGE3 = AVERAGE4 = BELOW AVERAGE5 = MARGINAL
Status Report
Jones played in all 50 games (41 starts) during four years at ECU, finishing with 399 catches for 4,279 yards (10.7) and 23 TDs. Had a record-setting senior year with 158 catches for 1,746 yards and eight TDs. Jones comes from a version of an "Air Raid
Rd 3.69 Sidney Jones CB Washington
Sidney Jones Torn Achilles (Don't see him lasting until our 4th rd pick) A Must have pick and a truJo22 insurance policy
37 — 3
Overall Football Traits
Production 1
Height-Weight-Speed 2
Durability 1
Intangibles 1
1 = EXCEPTIONAL2 = ABOVE AVERAGE3 = AVERAGE4 = BELOW AVERAGE5 = MARGINAL
Cornerback Specific Traits
Instincts/Recognition 1 Has a natural feel in coverage. Very good football intelligence and character. Fast eyes and keeps good leverage in zone coverage. Does a very good job of reading QBs eyes and peeling off his receiver early in order to provide help. Gets a lot of early jumps on throws in front of him because of his ability to diagnose the route and/or QBs eyes.
Cover Skills 1 Good height and length. Silky smooth movement skills and has good top-end speed to close. Just as adept in press as he is in off coverage. Lacks ideal bulk/strength. Can improve his press-man skills by getting stronger and more physical. But still holds up well because of his quick feet and hands. Got pushed around a couple times by USC WR JuJu Smith-Schuster at the top of his stem. But covered Smith-Schuster most of the game and held him to three catches for 41 yards.
Ball Skills 2 Frequently shows the ability to play the ball without making contact with the intended target. Good ball production during three seasons at Washington (21 PBUs and nine INTs). He also forced eight fumbles.
Run Support 2 Aggressive in support. Plays bigger than frame indicates. Understands his contain responsibilities and plays with good overall discipline. Toughness jumps off the tape at times. Willing to take on bigger blockers. Good overall tackling skills for the position.
1 = EXCEPTIONAL 2 = ABOVE AVERAGE 3 = AVERAGE 4 = BELOW AVERAGE 5 = MARGINAL
Status Report
Jones played in all 41 games (40 starts) during his three seasons at Washington -- and he started all but one game as a true freshman in 2014. Jones is a silky smooth cover corner with good height, length and speed. He can play press and off coverage -- and while he's slightly better in man-to-man coverage, he's very effective playing zone. Jones can improve by adding bulk and getting stronger. But otherwise, he's a complete cornerback with the ability to quickly develop into a good NFL starter. Jones grades out as a first round prospect in the 2017 class
Rd 4.110 Nico Siragusa LOG (Sorry don't want Scaffold in starting line up and this guy will be a stud imho)
PROSPECTSPRESENTED BY
OG
NICO SIRAGUSA
SAN DIEGO ST. MOUNTAIN WEST
No, Nico is not related to Tony Siragusa. But the fact that people are asking that question means he's gotten on the college football radar with his outstanding play up front. The third-team Associated Press All-American started every game as a senior, earning first-team All Mountain West honors for the second straight year. In fact, Siragusa started all 41 games over the past three years at left guard for the Aztecs, one big reason Donnel Pumphrey set the NCAA career rushing record. Siragusa started the opener of his redshirt freshman season at right guard, as well, before playing behind the veterans the rest of the year.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Compact, girthy frame with thickly muscled arms. Low center of gravity with adequate hip bend to unlock power. Strong core. Able to scoop under defenders and root them out. Drive blocker with strength to win individual battles. Better-than-expected maneuverability when asked to pull. Able to redirect his weight. Has anchor to pass-set at shallow depths and handle bull rushers. Showed a little more nasty in his game as a senior than he did in junior season. Great in the locker room and well liked.
WEAKNESSES
Labors coming out of stance. Tends to pop upright and is delayed in his lateral movements. Reach blocks and cut-off blocks on middle linebackers are mission impossible. Hands are a little slow with inconsistent placement. Impatient with punch and will get caught lunging. Has to work to keep weight balanced in pass sets. Unable to punch and mirror, allowing active rushers a pathway to his edge.
SOURCES TELL US
"I like him a lot. I don't see a lot of drop-off between him and Josh Garnett from last year." -- NFC West Coast scout
NFL COMPARISON
Chris Kemoeatu
BOTTOM LINE
Three-year starter with a penchant for power, but lacking the functional lateral movement to do consistent work outside of his phone booth. Has an NFL-ready frame with the ability to open holes for the running back but will likely appeal to power teams only. Pass protection could be a recurring issue early in his career .-Lance Zierlein
Rd 4.139 JOSH CARAWAY Edge Rusher OLB (Son of Bum will work his Strengths)
PROSPECTSPRESENTED BY
DE
JOSH CARRAWAY
TCU BIG 12
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It was a disappointing year for the Horned Frogs, barely making a bowl game with a mediocre six wins (one over FCS for South Dakota State). Carraway, however, earned his second straight first-team All-Big 12 nod by racking up 11 tackles for loss, including a team-leading eight sacks. He had similar numbers as a junior in 2015 (11.5 TFL, nine sacks, three forced fumbles) and was a part-time starter as a sophomore (33 tackles, five for loss, two sacks) as TCU went 23-3 over those two seasons. Carraway redshirted in 2013 due to depth in the team's front seven, one year after playing in four games as a reserve.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Outstanding athlete. Explosive with plenty of twitch. Has sudden, bouncy feet. Plus range as tackler. Possesses speed to win foot race down the line as a backside chaser when unblocked. Fluid hips and good acceleration to leverage wide, flowing runs to the sideline. Gets maximum arm extension when landing the early punch. Intriguing pass rusher. Has an NFL-level burst upfield. Flexibility creates ability to dip and corner the edge sharply. Has breathtaking closing burst to the quarterback as a rusher. Flashes of hand fighting provide hope for improvement. Transitioned from strong side to open side as a senior with no issues.
WEAKNESSES
Playing demeanor is too kind. Needs to inject some dog in his play. Lightweight at setting the edge. Gets jostled around far too easily to be trusted against the run. Needs to cut hands loose earlier in the rep and with more purpose. Content to ride on blocks rather than fight his way through them. Passive at point of attack and rarely imposes his will downhill. Technique and footwork seem random at times. Will have to learn how to take on blocks and stand his ground. Easily washed down by down blocks. Ragged, grab-and-drag tackler. Will need to find counter rush move to offset lack of play strength against redirect blocks around the arc.
SOURCES TELL US
"No, he's not the toughest guy out there, but neither was Bruce Irvin when he came out. Do you remember that? I'm not saying he's Irvin, but those players with pass-rush traits usually go higher than you expect them to. Coaches get paid to improve the technique. You can't coach his speed." -- NFC director of personnel
NFL COMPARISON
Shaquille Riddick
BOTTOM LINE
Several boxes go unchecked for Carraway, but his outstanding athleticism and potential as an edge rusher will provide draft value. His instincts are a long way off and he lacks the functional strength and toughness at the point of attack that most teams require on the edge, but a big combine could heat his draft stock up. He will require patience and much more technique work, but he does possess NFL traits as a developmental prospect.-Lance Zierlein
Rd 5.150 Howard Wilson CB
HOWARD WILSON
HOUSTON AAC
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William Jackson III rose to the ranks of elite prospects during the buildup to the 2016 NFL Draft. Wilson saw his teammate go through that process and decided that he is ready to impress evaluators with his talents. He showed them a lot in 2016, earning first-team All-American Athletic Conference honors by leading his team with five interceptions (also 54 tackles and five pass break-ups). Wilson had hoped to break out with Jackson in 2015, but he tore up his knee after an interception in the season's third game and was awarded a medical redshirt. The second-team all-state pick from Texas was a great recruiting pickup for Houston, and he showed why as a true freshman. Wilson picked off three passes and made 48 tackles that year, playing in all 13 games and starting three.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Took the ball away in high school and continued to do it in college. Averaged an interception (nine total) every 15 targets despite just one season as a full-time starter. Drapes his length over throwing windows. Has impressive burst to ball that brings him into range to make plays on the throw. Has the size and speed to stay with burners down the field. Springy leaper with catch radius to ruin the 50/50 tries. Always monitoring quarterback from off-man and zone. Will take a direct line to the ball when he decides to trigger. Has the hips and feet to mirror and match all over the field. Well-coached and experienced in a variety of techniques. Shows no fear when it's time to come get ball carriers as a tackler. Goes low and goes hard.
WEAKNESSES
Has very limited experience relative to the rest of the cornerbacks in this draft. Missed most of 2015 with an ACL tear that teams will look into at the combine. Will require additional time to hone his pattern recognition and instincts down the field. Has a very thin frame with skinny legs. Lacks desired muscular definition and needs a full year of work in an NFL weight program to pack on necessary muscle. Plays a little too upright at times. Scouts believe he could struggle early inside a complicated defensive scheme.
SOURCES TELL US
"He played bail coverage all game long against DeDe Westbrook so it was hard to get anything out of that. He has a lot of physical talent but I think he will struggle if you ask him to go from his conference into taking on NFL route-runners. Might have been a first-round prospect if he had gone back." -- AFC Director of College Scouting
NFL COMPARISON
Jeremy Lane
BOTTOM LINE
Smooth athlete with excellent length who has a long history of making plays on the football. Wilson is fast and fluid and he's willing to do his part as a tackler, but he needs more muscle and more experience before he's ready to handle some of the physical receivers he will see in the league. Wilson's size, speed and ball skills will be coveted traits and they give him a chance to become a good NFL starter with time.-Lance Zierlein
Rd 6.190 Scott Orndoff TE inline blocker! (Dam his father wasn't Mr. Wonderful)
Scott Orndoff
Overall Football Traits
Production 3
Height-Weight-Speed 2
Durability 3
Intangibles 2
1 = EXCEPTIONAL2 = ABOVE AVERAGE3 = AVERAGE4 = BELOW AVERAGE5 = MARGINAL
Tight End Specific Traits
Separation Skills 4
Solid acceleration off the line of scrimmage. Flashes ability to create late separation as a vertical route runner. Bit of a straight-line athlete. Seems to lack urgency at times. Tips off his breaks. Has to gear down some when getting into his breaking. Lacks ideal feel for finding soft spots in zone coverage.
Ball Skills 3
Big catch radius and big hands (10 1/4"). Can pluck on the run and quickly secure/transition. Mostly a hands catcher. Can be slow to track the ball and question his reaction time when picking the ball up through traffic. Inconsistent tracking the ball over his shoulder and needs to do a better job high-pointing it. Will mis-time some jumps.
Big Play Ability 2
Better after the catch than he is as a vertical route runner. Legitimate second gear after the catch. Ran away from three Virginia Tech DBs (71-yard reception 1:54 2nd QTR). Shows ability to weave in-and-out of traffic. Lowers shoulder and usually finishes falling forward. Has size/length to be effective red zone weapon. One out of every 4.8 catches in college were for TDs.
Competitiveness 2
Solid-to-good effort as a blocker. Adequate toughness but wish he had a bit more vinegar to him as a blocker. Runs hard after the catch. Zero fumbles on 58 career catches.
Blocking 2
Has prototypical size as an in-line TE. Sticks with his blocks. Keeps feet moving post-contact. Good bend to keep balance. Long arms. Not overpowering at the point of attack but does show adequate strength. Fails to sustain and finish a bit too often.
1 = EXCEPTIONAL 2 = ABOVE AVERAGE 3 = AVERAGE 4 = BELOW AVERAGE 5 = MARGINAL
Status Report
Ordorf, whose father (Scott) played college football (Cal University of PA) and in the USFL, played the first nine games (five starts) as a true freshman in 2013 before suffering a season-ending knee injury. He returned to play 10 games as a backup in 2014 before regaining the starting job his final two seasons, when he played all 26 games (20 starts) and hauled in 48 passes for 813 yards (16.9) and 10 TDs. Scott has an impressive combination of size, strength and straight-line speed. He has the skill set to improve in the NFL. He grades out as an early-Day 3 prospect. -February 20, 2017
Rd 6.220 Krishawn Hogan WR
http://www.si.com/nfl/video/2017/03/08/krishawn-hogan-nfl-draft-prospect
FAB 5. SR’s BUC SHOTS
• There were several great performances at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis last week, but there was a player I had never heard of that really intrigued me. Wide receiver Krishawn Hogan caught every thing in sight and looked smooth in on-field drills as a big-bodied receiver.
The 6-foot-3, 222-pound Hogan is from Marian, a small college in Indiana and absolutely dominated the NAIA scene. He had 82 catches for 1,136 yards and 11 touchdowns in 2014, which was his first season at Marian. In 2015 he erupted for 101 receptions for 1,824 yards and 16 touchdowns, and added 15 more touchdowns and 130 yards on 39 carries – mostly out of the Wildcat formation. As a senior, Hogan had 80 receptions for 1,435 yards with 15 touchdowns, and added 43 more yards and 10 touchdowns as a Wildcat QB, in addition to throwing a TD pass as a first-team All-American and his conference’s Offensive Player of the Year.
Hogan ran a respectable 4.56, which is a good time for a big receiver. Keep in mind that Tampa Bay’s Mike Evans ran a 4.52 at the Combine. He’s a late-round/undrafted free agent type that is worth keeping an eye on
When I watched Marian WR Krishawn Hogan earlier in the season, he wasn’t even listed on the NFL Draft Scout/CBS Sports database – and they go 3000+ deep. Now, he’s #531 – which, for me, is still too low. Interestingly NFLPA Scout and former owner of JBS Scouting, Josh Buchanan, has him ranked as a 6th rounder. Anyway, I went back and watched another game – the playoff loss to Eastern Oregon. He was a little quiet at times – but Eastern Oregon did a good job taking away a couple of WR slip screens and then had him doubled throughout. The true freshman Marian QB didn’t have a great day – when he tried to get Hogan the ball down the sideline on deeper routes, the safety was always there – he was eyeballing one receiver too much. Hogan runs the come back route really well – you see some receivers just sit – but Hogan attacks the ball, making it hard for the CB to “click and close”. He was trying hard after the catch, but they had so many guys on him, it was tough sledding. Still, he made another highlight reel catch – a LB tipped a pass in front of him, he was able to tip the ball to himself, something I’ve seen from him before. I liked his quickness against press, but he will need to add a little bulk to his thin frame. There was a fumble – he took a dribbler of a wildcat QB shotgun snap and tried to make something out of a busted play, but held the ball loosely and got his pocket picked. He’s still my #1 sleeper – even though he’s at the Combine so is no longer just my secret!
Rd 7.226 Sam Tevi OT (Projected as a swing OT in the NFL)
OT
SAM TEVI
UTAH PAC-12
?
Tevi (pronounced Tevv-ee) suited up as a defensive lineman as a true freshman for the Utes in 2013, playing in 11 games and contributing nine tackles, two for loss, and a sack. Coaches wanted him to move to the offensive line, which Tevi wasn't keen on right away. But he made the switch for the sake of the team, and it's paid off for him personally, as he's now an NFL prospect. He played special teams and occasionally on the line during the 2014 season before earning the starting job on the blind side for all 13 games of his junior campaign. The team needed him to move to the right tackle spot due to injuries on the line, and he flourished there, as well, other than missing two games with a back injury.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Has starting experience at both left and right tackles. Displays good foot quickness in his pass sets and operates from consistent base width. Able to meet speed at the edge in pass protection. Converted defensive tackle and has a little bit of edge in his play. Downblocks have some kick in them. Works well with guards. Big hands with decent strength.
WEAKNESSES
Helmet blocker who ducks head into contact in both run and pass blocks. Doesn't throws hands quickly enough and they land higher than he's likely aiming. Despite foot quickness, fails to consistently find position on back-side blocks. Plays with stiffness in knees which creates pad level issues. Weight too far outside in his pass sets and can be rocked off-balance by stab moves and bull rushes. Way behind on his work against twists.
SOURCES TELL US
"I like his feet but he's just way too inconsistent." - NFC West area scout
BOTTOM LINE
Has decent size and enough athletic ability to warrant a look as a swing tackle. His lack of anchor in the passing game and instincts against twists could be big problems for offensive line coaches.-Lance Zierlein
Well what says you? Like it, Hate, WTF???? Fire away.
Projected Starters:
QB: Jared Goff
HB: Todd Gurley
FB: Cory Harkey
XWR: Robert Woods
ZWR: Zay Jones
SLWR: Tavon Austin
TE: Tyler Higbee
LT: Andrew Whitworth
LG: Nico Siragusa
C: Ryan Groy
RG: Greg Robinson vs. Brown
RT: Rob Havenstein vs. GRob
LDE: Michael Brockers
NT: Glenn Dorsey 1y 2m prove it deal
RDE: Aaron Donald
LOLB: Josh Carraway
LILB: Mark Barron
RILB: Alec Ogletree
ROLB: Robert Quinn
LCB: Trumaine Johnson
RCB: Kayvon Webster
SLCB: Lamarcus Joyner
FS: Brian Randolph
SS: Maurice Alexander
K: Greg Zuerlein
P: Johnny Hekker
LS: Jake McQuaide v East
KR: Benny Cunningham
PR: Tavon Austin
Kayvon Webster CB (Projects as our #2 starting CB Boundary)
Greg Zuerlein K
Ryan Groy C (hoping he doesn't get matched by the Bills)
Benny Cunningham resigns 2y 6m
NFL Draft:
Rd 2.37 Zay Jones WR E. Carolina
Zay Jones
- WR
- Senior
- 6-2⅛, 201 lbs
- East Carolina
- Scouts Grade 86
- Position Rank 4
- Overall Rank 35
- 40-YD Dash 4.5
- ConferenceAmerican Athletic
Production 1
Height-Weight-Speed 2
Durability 1
Intangibles 2
1 = EXCEPTIONAL2 = ABOVE AVERAGE3 = AVERAGE4 = BELOW AVERAGE5 = MARGINAL
Wide Receiver Specific Traits
Separation Skills 2 Very good combination of height, weight and speed. Good acceleration off the line. Savvy vertical route runner. Effective using his bigger frame to shield. Shows good feel for locating soft spots in zone coverage. Also does a good job of working back to QB once initial play breaks down. Will need to master full NFL route tree after playing in "Air Raid
Ball Skills 2 Bigger target with longer arms (32 1/4") and average hand span (9"). Does a good job locating the ball and adjusting. Better than average body control. Occasional drop on tape but solid overall drop percentage. Soft hands and consistently shows ability to pluck on the run. A natural at plucking the ball on the run. Great job locating deep ball over his shoulder and adjusting to off-target throws (1:38 1st QTR vs. Va. Tech is good example)
Big play ability 2 Good acceleration off the line. Top-end speed is good but not elite. Shows ability to challenge most CBs vertically and at least get in position to compete for the ball. Wins higher-than-average percentage of jump balls. Impressive tracking/adjusting to deep ball. Transitions quickly upfield after the catch. Shows good acceleration to exploit a crease. Not overly elusive but can make first defender miss with stop-go move or a sharp cut. Competitive runner after the catch, as well.Doesn't dance much. Finished 2nd in Power 5 in yards after catch in 2016. Has experience as a return specialist (during first three seasons).
Competitiveness 1 Highly competitive player. Shows no fear working middle of field. Good awareness (knows where the first down marker is, knows when to get out of bounds when in hurry-up mode, etc.). Not overpowering as a runner but lowers his shoulders, initiates contact and usually falls forward at the end of touches. Can be an effective blocker. Usually gets in good initial position and makes solid first contact, but will struggle to sustain at times. Effort is solid but can improve. Needs to continue to get stronger, as well. Good ball security. Covers it up in traffic. Only two fumbles (one lost) on 399 career receptions -- and he has not fumbled since 2014.
1 = EXCEPTIONAL2 = ABOVE AVERAGE3 = AVERAGE4 = BELOW AVERAGE5 = MARGINAL
Status Report
Jones played in all 50 games (41 starts) during four years at ECU, finishing with 399 catches for 4,279 yards (10.7) and 23 TDs. Had a record-setting senior year with 158 catches for 1,746 yards and eight TDs. Jones comes from a version of an "Air Raid
Rd 3.69 Sidney Jones CB Washington
Sidney Jones Torn Achilles (Don't see him lasting until our 4th rd pick) A Must have pick and a truJo22 insurance policy
- DC
- Junior
- 6-0, 186 lbs
- Washington
- Scouts Grade 91
- Position Rank 3
- Overall Rank 13
- 40-YD Dash 4.47
- Conference PAC-12
37 — 3
Overall Football Traits
Production 1
Height-Weight-Speed 2
Durability 1
Intangibles 1
1 = EXCEPTIONAL2 = ABOVE AVERAGE3 = AVERAGE4 = BELOW AVERAGE5 = MARGINAL
Cornerback Specific Traits
Instincts/Recognition 1 Has a natural feel in coverage. Very good football intelligence and character. Fast eyes and keeps good leverage in zone coverage. Does a very good job of reading QBs eyes and peeling off his receiver early in order to provide help. Gets a lot of early jumps on throws in front of him because of his ability to diagnose the route and/or QBs eyes.
Cover Skills 1 Good height and length. Silky smooth movement skills and has good top-end speed to close. Just as adept in press as he is in off coverage. Lacks ideal bulk/strength. Can improve his press-man skills by getting stronger and more physical. But still holds up well because of his quick feet and hands. Got pushed around a couple times by USC WR JuJu Smith-Schuster at the top of his stem. But covered Smith-Schuster most of the game and held him to three catches for 41 yards.
Ball Skills 2 Frequently shows the ability to play the ball without making contact with the intended target. Good ball production during three seasons at Washington (21 PBUs and nine INTs). He also forced eight fumbles.
Run Support 2 Aggressive in support. Plays bigger than frame indicates. Understands his contain responsibilities and plays with good overall discipline. Toughness jumps off the tape at times. Willing to take on bigger blockers. Good overall tackling skills for the position.
1 = EXCEPTIONAL 2 = ABOVE AVERAGE 3 = AVERAGE 4 = BELOW AVERAGE 5 = MARGINAL
Status Report
Jones played in all 41 games (40 starts) during his three seasons at Washington -- and he started all but one game as a true freshman in 2014. Jones is a silky smooth cover corner with good height, length and speed. He can play press and off coverage -- and while he's slightly better in man-to-man coverage, he's very effective playing zone. Jones can improve by adding bulk and getting stronger. But otherwise, he's a complete cornerback with the ability to quickly develop into a good NFL starter. Jones grades out as a first round prospect in the 2017 class
Rd 4.110 Nico Siragusa LOG (Sorry don't want Scaffold in starting line up and this guy will be a stud imho)
PROSPECTSPRESENTED BY
OG
NICO SIRAGUSA
SAN DIEGO ST. MOUNTAIN WEST
- 5.35 SEC
- 28 REPS
Top Performer - 32.0 INCH
Top Performer - 110.0 INCH
Top Performer - 7.71 SEC
- 4.56 SEC
Top Performer
- 6'4" HEIGHT
- 33 1/2" ARM LENGTH
- 319LBS. WEIGHT
- 10 5/8" HANDS
No, Nico is not related to Tony Siragusa. But the fact that people are asking that question means he's gotten on the college football radar with his outstanding play up front. The third-team Associated Press All-American started every game as a senior, earning first-team All Mountain West honors for the second straight year. In fact, Siragusa started all 41 games over the past three years at left guard for the Aztecs, one big reason Donnel Pumphrey set the NCAA career rushing record. Siragusa started the opener of his redshirt freshman season at right guard, as well, before playing behind the veterans the rest of the year.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Compact, girthy frame with thickly muscled arms. Low center of gravity with adequate hip bend to unlock power. Strong core. Able to scoop under defenders and root them out. Drive blocker with strength to win individual battles. Better-than-expected maneuverability when asked to pull. Able to redirect his weight. Has anchor to pass-set at shallow depths and handle bull rushers. Showed a little more nasty in his game as a senior than he did in junior season. Great in the locker room and well liked.
WEAKNESSES
Labors coming out of stance. Tends to pop upright and is delayed in his lateral movements. Reach blocks and cut-off blocks on middle linebackers are mission impossible. Hands are a little slow with inconsistent placement. Impatient with punch and will get caught lunging. Has to work to keep weight balanced in pass sets. Unable to punch and mirror, allowing active rushers a pathway to his edge.
SOURCES TELL US
"I like him a lot. I don't see a lot of drop-off between him and Josh Garnett from last year." -- NFC West Coast scout
NFL COMPARISON
Chris Kemoeatu
BOTTOM LINE
Three-year starter with a penchant for power, but lacking the functional lateral movement to do consistent work outside of his phone booth. Has an NFL-ready frame with the ability to open holes for the running back but will likely appeal to power teams only. Pass protection could be a recurring issue early in his career .-Lance Zierlein
Rd 4.139 JOSH CARAWAY Edge Rusher OLB (Son of Bum will work his Strengths)
PROSPECTSPRESENTED BY
DE
JOSH CARRAWAY
TCU BIG 12
?
- 4.74 SEC
- 25 REPS
- 29.5 INCH
- 120.0 INCH
- 7.20 SEC
- 4.44 SEC
- 11.71 SEC
Top Performer
- 6'3" HEIGHT
- 34 1/4" ARM LENGTH
- 242LBS. WEIGHT
- 9 1/4" HANDS
It was a disappointing year for the Horned Frogs, barely making a bowl game with a mediocre six wins (one over FCS for South Dakota State). Carraway, however, earned his second straight first-team All-Big 12 nod by racking up 11 tackles for loss, including a team-leading eight sacks. He had similar numbers as a junior in 2015 (11.5 TFL, nine sacks, three forced fumbles) and was a part-time starter as a sophomore (33 tackles, five for loss, two sacks) as TCU went 23-3 over those two seasons. Carraway redshirted in 2013 due to depth in the team's front seven, one year after playing in four games as a reserve.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Outstanding athlete. Explosive with plenty of twitch. Has sudden, bouncy feet. Plus range as tackler. Possesses speed to win foot race down the line as a backside chaser when unblocked. Fluid hips and good acceleration to leverage wide, flowing runs to the sideline. Gets maximum arm extension when landing the early punch. Intriguing pass rusher. Has an NFL-level burst upfield. Flexibility creates ability to dip and corner the edge sharply. Has breathtaking closing burst to the quarterback as a rusher. Flashes of hand fighting provide hope for improvement. Transitioned from strong side to open side as a senior with no issues.
WEAKNESSES
Playing demeanor is too kind. Needs to inject some dog in his play. Lightweight at setting the edge. Gets jostled around far too easily to be trusted against the run. Needs to cut hands loose earlier in the rep and with more purpose. Content to ride on blocks rather than fight his way through them. Passive at point of attack and rarely imposes his will downhill. Technique and footwork seem random at times. Will have to learn how to take on blocks and stand his ground. Easily washed down by down blocks. Ragged, grab-and-drag tackler. Will need to find counter rush move to offset lack of play strength against redirect blocks around the arc.
SOURCES TELL US
"No, he's not the toughest guy out there, but neither was Bruce Irvin when he came out. Do you remember that? I'm not saying he's Irvin, but those players with pass-rush traits usually go higher than you expect them to. Coaches get paid to improve the technique. You can't coach his speed." -- NFC director of personnel
NFL COMPARISON
Shaquille Riddick
BOTTOM LINE
Several boxes go unchecked for Carraway, but his outstanding athleticism and potential as an edge rusher will provide draft value. His instincts are a long way off and he lacks the functional strength and toughness at the point of attack that most teams require on the edge, but a big combine could heat his draft stock up. He will require patience and much more technique work, but he does possess NFL traits as a developmental prospect.-Lance Zierlein
Rd 5.150 Howard Wilson CB
HOWARD WILSON
HOUSTON AAC
?
- 4.57 SEC
- 33.5 INCH
- 119.0 INCH
- 6.68 SEC
Top Performer - 3.94 SEC
Top Performer
- 6'1" HEIGHT
- 31 3/8" ARM LENGTH
- 184LBS. WEIGHT
- 9 5/8" HANDS
William Jackson III rose to the ranks of elite prospects during the buildup to the 2016 NFL Draft. Wilson saw his teammate go through that process and decided that he is ready to impress evaluators with his talents. He showed them a lot in 2016, earning first-team All-American Athletic Conference honors by leading his team with five interceptions (also 54 tackles and five pass break-ups). Wilson had hoped to break out with Jackson in 2015, but he tore up his knee after an interception in the season's third game and was awarded a medical redshirt. The second-team all-state pick from Texas was a great recruiting pickup for Houston, and he showed why as a true freshman. Wilson picked off three passes and made 48 tackles that year, playing in all 13 games and starting three.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Took the ball away in high school and continued to do it in college. Averaged an interception (nine total) every 15 targets despite just one season as a full-time starter. Drapes his length over throwing windows. Has impressive burst to ball that brings him into range to make plays on the throw. Has the size and speed to stay with burners down the field. Springy leaper with catch radius to ruin the 50/50 tries. Always monitoring quarterback from off-man and zone. Will take a direct line to the ball when he decides to trigger. Has the hips and feet to mirror and match all over the field. Well-coached and experienced in a variety of techniques. Shows no fear when it's time to come get ball carriers as a tackler. Goes low and goes hard.
WEAKNESSES
Has very limited experience relative to the rest of the cornerbacks in this draft. Missed most of 2015 with an ACL tear that teams will look into at the combine. Will require additional time to hone his pattern recognition and instincts down the field. Has a very thin frame with skinny legs. Lacks desired muscular definition and needs a full year of work in an NFL weight program to pack on necessary muscle. Plays a little too upright at times. Scouts believe he could struggle early inside a complicated defensive scheme.
SOURCES TELL US
"He played bail coverage all game long against DeDe Westbrook so it was hard to get anything out of that. He has a lot of physical talent but I think he will struggle if you ask him to go from his conference into taking on NFL route-runners. Might have been a first-round prospect if he had gone back." -- AFC Director of College Scouting
NFL COMPARISON
Jeremy Lane
BOTTOM LINE
Smooth athlete with excellent length who has a long history of making plays on the football. Wilson is fast and fluid and he's willing to do his part as a tackler, but he needs more muscle and more experience before he's ready to handle some of the physical receivers he will see in the league. Wilson's size, speed and ball skills will be coveted traits and they give him a chance to become a good NFL starter with time.-Lance Zierlein
Rd 6.190 Scott Orndoff TE inline blocker! (Dam his father wasn't Mr. Wonderful)
Scott Orndoff
- TE
- 6-4⅞, 253 lbs
- Pittsburgh
- Scouts Grade 52
- Position Rank 13
- Overall Rank 184
- 40-YD Dash 4.8
- Conference ACC
Overall Football Traits
Production 3
Height-Weight-Speed 2
Durability 3
Intangibles 2
1 = EXCEPTIONAL2 = ABOVE AVERAGE3 = AVERAGE4 = BELOW AVERAGE5 = MARGINAL
Tight End Specific Traits
Separation Skills 4
Solid acceleration off the line of scrimmage. Flashes ability to create late separation as a vertical route runner. Bit of a straight-line athlete. Seems to lack urgency at times. Tips off his breaks. Has to gear down some when getting into his breaking. Lacks ideal feel for finding soft spots in zone coverage.
Ball Skills 3
Big catch radius and big hands (10 1/4"). Can pluck on the run and quickly secure/transition. Mostly a hands catcher. Can be slow to track the ball and question his reaction time when picking the ball up through traffic. Inconsistent tracking the ball over his shoulder and needs to do a better job high-pointing it. Will mis-time some jumps.
Big Play Ability 2
Better after the catch than he is as a vertical route runner. Legitimate second gear after the catch. Ran away from three Virginia Tech DBs (71-yard reception 1:54 2nd QTR). Shows ability to weave in-and-out of traffic. Lowers shoulder and usually finishes falling forward. Has size/length to be effective red zone weapon. One out of every 4.8 catches in college were for TDs.
Competitiveness 2
Solid-to-good effort as a blocker. Adequate toughness but wish he had a bit more vinegar to him as a blocker. Runs hard after the catch. Zero fumbles on 58 career catches.
Blocking 2
Has prototypical size as an in-line TE. Sticks with his blocks. Keeps feet moving post-contact. Good bend to keep balance. Long arms. Not overpowering at the point of attack but does show adequate strength. Fails to sustain and finish a bit too often.
1 = EXCEPTIONAL 2 = ABOVE AVERAGE 3 = AVERAGE 4 = BELOW AVERAGE 5 = MARGINAL
Status Report
Ordorf, whose father (Scott) played college football (Cal University of PA) and in the USFL, played the first nine games (five starts) as a true freshman in 2013 before suffering a season-ending knee injury. He returned to play 10 games as a backup in 2014 before regaining the starting job his final two seasons, when he played all 26 games (20 starts) and hauled in 48 passes for 813 yards (16.9) and 10 TDs. Scott has an impressive combination of size, strength and straight-line speed. He has the skill set to improve in the NFL. He grades out as an early-Day 3 prospect. -February 20, 2017
Rd 6.220 Krishawn Hogan WR
http://www.si.com/nfl/video/2017/03/08/krishawn-hogan-nfl-draft-prospect
FAB 5. SR’s BUC SHOTS
• There were several great performances at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis last week, but there was a player I had never heard of that really intrigued me. Wide receiver Krishawn Hogan caught every thing in sight and looked smooth in on-field drills as a big-bodied receiver.
The 6-foot-3, 222-pound Hogan is from Marian, a small college in Indiana and absolutely dominated the NAIA scene. He had 82 catches for 1,136 yards and 11 touchdowns in 2014, which was his first season at Marian. In 2015 he erupted for 101 receptions for 1,824 yards and 16 touchdowns, and added 15 more touchdowns and 130 yards on 39 carries – mostly out of the Wildcat formation. As a senior, Hogan had 80 receptions for 1,435 yards with 15 touchdowns, and added 43 more yards and 10 touchdowns as a Wildcat QB, in addition to throwing a TD pass as a first-team All-American and his conference’s Offensive Player of the Year.
Hogan ran a respectable 4.56, which is a good time for a big receiver. Keep in mind that Tampa Bay’s Mike Evans ran a 4.52 at the Combine. He’s a late-round/undrafted free agent type that is worth keeping an eye on
When I watched Marian WR Krishawn Hogan earlier in the season, he wasn’t even listed on the NFL Draft Scout/CBS Sports database – and they go 3000+ deep. Now, he’s #531 – which, for me, is still too low. Interestingly NFLPA Scout and former owner of JBS Scouting, Josh Buchanan, has him ranked as a 6th rounder. Anyway, I went back and watched another game – the playoff loss to Eastern Oregon. He was a little quiet at times – but Eastern Oregon did a good job taking away a couple of WR slip screens and then had him doubled throughout. The true freshman Marian QB didn’t have a great day – when he tried to get Hogan the ball down the sideline on deeper routes, the safety was always there – he was eyeballing one receiver too much. Hogan runs the come back route really well – you see some receivers just sit – but Hogan attacks the ball, making it hard for the CB to “click and close”. He was trying hard after the catch, but they had so many guys on him, it was tough sledding. Still, he made another highlight reel catch – a LB tipped a pass in front of him, he was able to tip the ball to himself, something I’ve seen from him before. I liked his quickness against press, but he will need to add a little bulk to his thin frame. There was a fumble – he took a dribbler of a wildcat QB shotgun snap and tried to make something out of a busted play, but held the ball loosely and got his pocket picked. He’s still my #1 sleeper – even though he’s at the Combine so is no longer just my secret!
Rd 7.226 Sam Tevi OT (Projected as a swing OT in the NFL)
OT
SAM TEVI
UTAH PAC-12
?
- 5.27 SEC
- 15 REPS
- 26.0 INCH
- 107.0 INCH
- 7.84 SEC
- 4.60 SEC
- 6'5"HEIGHT
- 34"ARM LENGTH
- 311LBS.WEIGHT
- 10 1/8"HANDS
Tevi (pronounced Tevv-ee) suited up as a defensive lineman as a true freshman for the Utes in 2013, playing in 11 games and contributing nine tackles, two for loss, and a sack. Coaches wanted him to move to the offensive line, which Tevi wasn't keen on right away. But he made the switch for the sake of the team, and it's paid off for him personally, as he's now an NFL prospect. He played special teams and occasionally on the line during the 2014 season before earning the starting job on the blind side for all 13 games of his junior campaign. The team needed him to move to the right tackle spot due to injuries on the line, and he flourished there, as well, other than missing two games with a back injury.
ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Has starting experience at both left and right tackles. Displays good foot quickness in his pass sets and operates from consistent base width. Able to meet speed at the edge in pass protection. Converted defensive tackle and has a little bit of edge in his play. Downblocks have some kick in them. Works well with guards. Big hands with decent strength.
WEAKNESSES
Helmet blocker who ducks head into contact in both run and pass blocks. Doesn't throws hands quickly enough and they land higher than he's likely aiming. Despite foot quickness, fails to consistently find position on back-side blocks. Plays with stiffness in knees which creates pad level issues. Weight too far outside in his pass sets and can be rocked off-balance by stab moves and bull rushes. Way behind on his work against twists.
SOURCES TELL US
"I like his feet but he's just way too inconsistent." - NFC West area scout
BOTTOM LINE
Has decent size and enough athletic ability to warrant a look as a swing tackle. His lack of anchor in the passing game and instincts against twists could be big problems for offensive line coaches.-Lance Zierlein
Well what says you? Like it, Hate, WTF???? Fire away.
Projected Starters:
QB: Jared Goff
HB: Todd Gurley
FB: Cory Harkey
XWR: Robert Woods
ZWR: Zay Jones
SLWR: Tavon Austin
TE: Tyler Higbee
LT: Andrew Whitworth
LG: Nico Siragusa
C: Ryan Groy
RG: Greg Robinson vs. Brown
RT: Rob Havenstein vs. GRob
LDE: Michael Brockers
NT: Glenn Dorsey 1y 2m prove it deal
RDE: Aaron Donald
LOLB: Josh Carraway
LILB: Mark Barron
RILB: Alec Ogletree
ROLB: Robert Quinn
LCB: Trumaine Johnson
RCB: Kayvon Webster
SLCB: Lamarcus Joyner
FS: Brian Randolph
SS: Maurice Alexander
K: Greg Zuerlein
P: Johnny Hekker
LS: Jake McQuaide v East
KR: Benny Cunningham
PR: Tavon Austin
Fan Mock 2
- NFL DRAFT / COLLEGE FOOTBALL
- 5 Replies
We are almost a week into the Free Agency period and a lot has happened for the Rams. Whitworth is a starter at LT, Woods comes in the starting lineup at WR, Webster will battle for a CB spot, and Groy has a shot at being our starting C. So many holes have been filled for the Rams, but their are many other places that need to be addressed. So let's begin..
2.5 (37) Fabian Moreau CB UCLA (6' 206)
Moreau is an athlete that has long speed, smooth hips and has a high ceiling. Solid size and a fluid athlete, Moreau has the tools to develop into a pro bowl CB. Why isn't he being talked about in the 1st round? He has had limited exposure and played in a very basic UCLA defense. Will need some coaching but you can not teach his level of athleticism.
3.5 (69) Bucky Hodges TE VT (6'6 257)
I had Hodges as a 4th round pick in my first mock but it seems even though he isn't much of a blocker and can barely get into a three point stance the mock drafting community he has him going muc higher than I originally thought. Dynamic athlete, with tools to be a redzone monster and can line up on the outside. Will need help with his route running and overall basics of the TE position, but here is another athlete with tools that can't be taught.
4.5 (112) Amara Darboh WR Mich (6'2 214)
The Rams don't really have a true deep threat, insert Amara Darboh. Good size and speed he can use that to his advantage for the deep ball. Played for Jim Harbaugh who expects his WRs to have an edge and be good blockers, so that's a plus. Catches with his body too often and can be sloppy on his routes. But just give him some routes to compliment his athleticism and he can open up the field.
4.36 (141) Vince Biegel OLB Wisc (6'3 246)
Maybe not as physically skilled as TJ Watt, but is an extremely hard worker who could fill in as a backup edge rusher and fill in as a core special teamer. Voted team captain so that's always a plus.
5.5 (149) James Conner RB Pitt (6'1 233)
James Conner has an LA story. Mentally tough hard worker who could come in as backup and goal line back. He can be a solid backup and has the size and willingness to be a pass pro specialist with the ability to also be a receiver. A solid number two option.
6.5 (189) Ben Boulware ILB Clem (6' 233)
A bit undersized and not the quickest player, but reminds me of Danny Trevathen who was a stud in college but had similar issues. Boulware is a better football player than athlete and could provide depth and special team value.
7.5 (223) Chuck Clark DB VT (6' 208)
Another Hokie, Clark is nothing special athletically but is instinctive and could play a valuable special teams role while also providing depth at the nickel corner position or at safety. Beamer might be gone from the Hokies, but beamer ball is still in every Hokies blood.
7.16 (234) Dan Skipper OT Ark (6'10 309)
A swing tackle that is appealing at 6'10, but you have to be careful with extremely tall players and their lack of ability to bend. Arkansas has a run first system that might be interesting with such a long frame.
2.5 (37) Fabian Moreau CB UCLA (6' 206)
Moreau is an athlete that has long speed, smooth hips and has a high ceiling. Solid size and a fluid athlete, Moreau has the tools to develop into a pro bowl CB. Why isn't he being talked about in the 1st round? He has had limited exposure and played in a very basic UCLA defense. Will need some coaching but you can not teach his level of athleticism.
3.5 (69) Bucky Hodges TE VT (6'6 257)
I had Hodges as a 4th round pick in my first mock but it seems even though he isn't much of a blocker and can barely get into a three point stance the mock drafting community he has him going muc higher than I originally thought. Dynamic athlete, with tools to be a redzone monster and can line up on the outside. Will need help with his route running and overall basics of the TE position, but here is another athlete with tools that can't be taught.
4.5 (112) Amara Darboh WR Mich (6'2 214)
The Rams don't really have a true deep threat, insert Amara Darboh. Good size and speed he can use that to his advantage for the deep ball. Played for Jim Harbaugh who expects his WRs to have an edge and be good blockers, so that's a plus. Catches with his body too often and can be sloppy on his routes. But just give him some routes to compliment his athleticism and he can open up the field.
4.36 (141) Vince Biegel OLB Wisc (6'3 246)
Maybe not as physically skilled as TJ Watt, but is an extremely hard worker who could fill in as a backup edge rusher and fill in as a core special teamer. Voted team captain so that's always a plus.
5.5 (149) James Conner RB Pitt (6'1 233)
James Conner has an LA story. Mentally tough hard worker who could come in as backup and goal line back. He can be a solid backup and has the size and willingness to be a pass pro specialist with the ability to also be a receiver. A solid number two option.
6.5 (189) Ben Boulware ILB Clem (6' 233)
A bit undersized and not the quickest player, but reminds me of Danny Trevathen who was a stud in college but had similar issues. Boulware is a better football player than athlete and could provide depth and special team value.
7.5 (223) Chuck Clark DB VT (6' 208)
Another Hokie, Clark is nothing special athletically but is instinctive and could play a valuable special teams role while also providing depth at the nickel corner position or at safety. Beamer might be gone from the Hokies, but beamer ball is still in every Hokies blood.
7.16 (234) Dan Skipper OT Ark (6'10 309)
A swing tackle that is appealing at 6'10, but you have to be careful with extremely tall players and their lack of ability to bend. Arkansas has a run first system that might be interesting with such a long frame.
Rams sign backup long snapper Andrew East
- By Tron
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http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2017/3...east-super-bowl-dynasty-greatest-snap-on-turf
LA Rams Solidify Super Bowl Trajectory By Signing Backup Long Snapper Andrew East
6 New, 6 comments
The Rams might not have been oddsmakers’ favorites to make Super Bowl LII...until now.
by Joe McAtee Mar 14, 2017, 4:50pm CDT
Former Kansas City Chiefs LS Andrew East
Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports
Reggie White. Drew Brees. Coty Sensabaugh.
Every now and then, a player rises out of free agency to completely re-shape the fortunes of a team and elevate them from has been to is be, from a pretender to a contender.
The player is long snapper Andrew East. The team is the Los Angeles Rams. The time is a few minutes ago.
East was a UDFA from the 2015 NFL Draft out of Vanderbilt who offered size, speed, grip strength, snap torque and plus wristicular compunction. East landed with the Kansas City Chiefs but had stints with the Seattle Seahawks and Oakland Raiders since as his “East Coast Least Coast” philosophy prevents him from setting up east of the Mississsippi River.
East is married to former Olympic gymnast and Dancing With the Stars champion Shawn Johnson. We’ll have to see how she handles the fame that comes with being married to a backup long snapper in the NFL.
As of this morning, the Rams were 100-1 odds to win Super Bowl LII. I wouldn’t be surprised whatsoever if the Rams carve that at least in half due to this signing.
Andrew East is now a Los Angeles Ram. Let the long snapping we’ve longed for begin.
Guess they really want some competition for Mcquaide?
LA Rams Solidify Super Bowl Trajectory By Signing Backup Long Snapper Andrew East
6 New, 6 comments
The Rams might not have been oddsmakers’ favorites to make Super Bowl LII...until now.
by Joe McAtee Mar 14, 2017, 4:50pm CDT
Former Kansas City Chiefs LS Andrew East
Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports
Reggie White. Drew Brees. Coty Sensabaugh.
Every now and then, a player rises out of free agency to completely re-shape the fortunes of a team and elevate them from has been to is be, from a pretender to a contender.
The player is long snapper Andrew East. The team is the Los Angeles Rams. The time is a few minutes ago.
East was a UDFA from the 2015 NFL Draft out of Vanderbilt who offered size, speed, grip strength, snap torque and plus wristicular compunction. East landed with the Kansas City Chiefs but had stints with the Seattle Seahawks and Oakland Raiders since as his “East Coast Least Coast” philosophy prevents him from setting up east of the Mississsippi River.
East is married to former Olympic gymnast and Dancing With the Stars champion Shawn Johnson. We’ll have to see how she handles the fame that comes with being married to a backup long snapper in the NFL.
As of this morning, the Rams were 100-1 odds to win Super Bowl LII. I wouldn’t be surprised whatsoever if the Rams carve that at least in half due to this signing.
Andrew East is now a Los Angeles Ram. Let the long snapping we’ve longed for begin.
Guess they really want some competition for Mcquaide?
"How you can tell summer is almost here"
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Anyone else getting that red warning screen when opening up this thread?
Just curious - (I think it's a google chrome thing).
Just curious - (I think it's a google chrome thing).