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Players Headed To Draft in Detroit

Memento
Flatlyner said:
I don't see him as an edge at all. That athletic profile might work in college, but running that slowly for what we ask of our edges, isn't going to fly. I could see a plan for him to play edge on early downs and then move inside to rush passer with hand in dirt. That said, no interest at all at 19. Trade down, I could entertain it.
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I just don't see him as...anything other than a potential 5-tech, and honestly, I think Jenkins is a much better 5-tech than Robinson could ever be. Robinson never had this kind of production until his redshirt senior year, and honestly didn't pop on tape when I saw him - and I watched every Mizzou game.

I'm simply not interested in drafting him anywhere near the first round, if at all. Out of all of the Mizzou guys, Rakestraw, KAD, Schrader, Hopper, and Foster are all guys I'd take in their respective rounds over Robinson, even in the second round.

I just don't see it with him. I don't see it with any D-lineman Mizzou had last year; it was easily the most underwhelming D-line I've seen out of a competitive Mizzou team. It was really the offensive line, wide receiver corps secondary that really paved the way for such a good year.
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Kobie Turner is a treasure.....

PhillyRam said:
I had seen a stat on Twitter where it showed Turner had a higher doubleteam rate than Jalen Carter did and a similar rate to Donald's...
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This chart here shows that:

Pass Rushing Rates at DT, 2023 per ESPN Analytics

Here's another link showing the same in Table format:

DT Pass Rush Win Rate Rankings

Kobie was doubled at the 2nd highest rate in the league for all DTs at 72%. Makes sense as a NT.
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Just basic measurables for reference Edge and DI

JimY53
Londoner said:
Out of interest, do you know how many people were involved in deciding the final order?

A more accurate ranking is achieved when it isn’t just one person’s opinion.
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I do not know ... it was sent to me, just those two sheets because I was interested in them because they in in chart form with measurable.

I wasn't interested in the rankings in this case, just the numbers.
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Mock of integrity (meaning my one and only)

Flatlyner
RamsinNV said:
Rams get lucky with a run on Tackles early and Dallas wants to trade up for their guy. This also leaves a number of players on the board at 19 that the Rams like, giving them the confidence to trade down.

Rams get 24 and 87 for 19 and 155.

24. Johnny Newton —DT

Rams fans celebrate the extra draft capital for about a day until McVay pisses off half the board by moving up for his new toy.

Giants only have 6 picks and move down a few slots in the second round for the extra selection.

Rams get 47, 107 and 183 for 52, 99, 154 and 209.

47. Xavier Legette-WR
*don’t think he makes it past the Giants, Jags, Bengals, Eagles and Steelers to pick 53. Fans (some anyway)are not thrilled because he won’t play a whole lot this year until second half but he can play that X position and has kick return ability. Also red flag that he only has the one year of solid production in college.

83. Marshawn Kneeland-Edge
Just the top guy that fell really.
87. McKinley Jackson-DT
*More of a nose tackle in my poor man’s scouting opinion.
107. Jaylan Ford -LB
*Rams have met with him this offseason. A bit of a reach but I feel like that every year(most thought Kobie Turner was a reach)
183. Hoping a guy that can be our backup center and guard depth falls here. Beaux Limmer or Tannor Bartolini. If not then the same thought at the tackle position and a guy like Matt Goncalves.
196. Jaylen Harrell-Edge
*Rams have met with him this offseason. I also like Xavier Thomas here.
213. Kimani Vidal -RB
Maurice Jones-Drew comp but hasn’t knocked out his girlfriend in an elevator yet (to my knowledge anyway)
217. Tip Reiman- TE
I just want to watch McVay’s offense with a Tight end that is 271 lbs and surprisingly athletic with good hands.
254. Qwan’tez Stiggers-CB
Players who have this level of athletic ability are not often available at this point in the draft.
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I don't have any issues with this mock. I too can see McVay trading up in the 2nd for a toy, be it Legette, McConkey, Pearsall, etc. Lot of options and whichever McVay fancies is probably the target. Newton and Kneeland would go a long way towards improving our pass rush. Vidal isn't my ideal back up RB but no huge deal.
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Rams Coaching Staff

So Ram
Merlin said:
Nothing would surprise me with Shula. Hope he kicks ass but I don't really have a sense of certainty with him. Reminds me of the Morris hire in that way.

The Staley hire felt risky but focused. As in he was specifically brought in to install the Fangio scheme and teach it to McVay. But Morris I wondered if it was his first friend hire, as I didn't see any Fangio background.

Lesson for me in all that is McVay probably taught him and he proved good enough to do the job. And so with Shula I figure McVay won't let him fail but hopefully he can also get it done. But not particularly confident, moreso just hopeful.
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Always the PESSIMIST !!!

Raheem helped win The Rams a SUPERBOWL !! That Eric Weedle find was GENIOUS!! He just got a HC position which brought The Rams 2 3rd rd DRAFT PICKS !!

Shula was hired with WADE PHILLIPS & LEARNED from him.
Then STALEY who F’ HIM(9er) loser !! Talk about a RISK !!! You see what the Chargers went through there Last 3 Seasons ???

Staley was only with The Rams 1 season.
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Rams re-sign Tyler Johnson

So Ram
Well I’ll continue on to what I wanted to see.The Rams bringing back solid players that deserved to get paid for there contributions as Rams(players).

Tyler Johnson brings such a positive vibe along with Demarcus Robinson.

These guys make coach Yarber’s job that much easier.Having veteran guys with Tutu yet again all complement each other.

I also know bringing in a young WR is going to be necessary with them all being FA’s ? That player though will learn a lot with this group of players.
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Rams Future Contracts

So Ram
RamBall said:
Can you just translate for us? I think I would break my brain trying to input @So Ram post to the formula.:laugh4:
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Thanks Ramball, I know some of my thoughts get lost in translation.

You’ve been to training camps & we’ve all seen these UDRFA’s make the roster & each year become starters.

I guess this question might be to hard for you to break down,but I’ll ask you anyways & hope your brain doesn’t hurt to much from it.

What Rams player do you see that being ? All The Rams draft picks made it last year so the question should be about these 2nd year guy's other than Puka,Young & Turner ? I can see a lot of improvement coming & with 2 HUGE draft classes in a row probably eliminates the chance of players like Alaric Jackson,Rozeboom,& Hoecht have done.

Jacob Hummel has a chance as of now,but Peyton Wilson is a player I want The Rams to draft.His speed would fit perfect w/Ernest Jones.imo a side to sideline player is what The Rams need.If anyone who watched The Super Bowl 2023 & any knowledge could see the difference between having that player to when they loss that player.I know Travis was happy & loved the ending with Dre Greenlaw getting hurt.
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The Rams should establish an Aaron Donald Award…

dang
Loyal said:
And I really doubt many mediocre players would submit to this proposed camp. Those who would volunteer, probably don't need it....
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So the OP was just a spitball idea of engaging Donald. If I were Rams I would engage him before next offseason and let him decide what would interest him. Strength & Conditioning/Scouting/DL Coaching/etc. Dont tell him their intentions but hell it might even interest him join a Super Bowl run.
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Greg Cosell Scouting Reports

Memphis Ram
Flatlyner said:
Yes, I think Mitchell is much more talented then Thomas Jr. Thomas may be the best deep threat in the class, but literally doesn't do anything else well (including catching). Mitchell is just so much more balanced and even more athletic. Mitchell has a much higher ceiling IMO.
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But does he have that dawg in him. That's the key for me.

I cooled on Mitchell a bit when I heard about him taking plays off and questions about his effort when blocking.
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Has Anyone Attended A PGA Event???

Selassie I
Karate61 said:
Wow...I understand the burnout, totally, but what about the money? Korda makes millions. I would love to play golf for millions...that would be like, ah, being in heaven!
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Well... many LGPA players could make more money getting a job than they do on the tour. Many don't make any money after expenses during their first several years and many never really do. The costs are crazy. Her dad would pay everything for her if she decides to jump in... but he really wants it more than she does. Golf payed for her entire education here in the USA including 2 masters degrees (Because of covid adding an additional year+ to her eligibility) and she wants to do her own thing now.

I was surprised to hear how many LPGA players never make any real money. It is extremely expensive and the travel costs are insane too. Like I said, her dad will pay for it if she wants to try. I was kinda surprised too (and kinda bummed) when she decided she didn’t want to continue.

The other part is the travel. Being out on the road all over the world constantly is a big turn off for her. She has a great job here that doesn't require any travel. Tiger and Rory hired her away from her job recently... they are starting a new golf league thing with lots of backing from other celebrities. She worked there for a very short time and went back to the job she left (they completely understood why she left, but were so happy she came back) because of things she saw happening behind the scenes. The golf world knows her, but golf just doesn't attract her anymore. She is way more interested in becoming a mother than anything. Golf wouldn't allow that either. Her family is very blessed so the allure of money earned from golf isn't like it would be for most.

Plus... she's married to my son! What more could she ask for LOL. He's one lucky sob is the reality of it all. He hit the jackpot when they met and started dating.
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I just rewatched "Los Angeles Rams: All or Nothing" from 2016

XXXIVwin
younghutch said:
I was completely done with Fisher when, on Hard Knocks, he openly mocked Jared Goff for buying fans for his teammates due to the heat in their rooms. I guess Fisher thought Goff should've gone the whole HVAC route or something.

I knew that Goff would not be allowed to succeed under him.
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I don't really remember that, but I'd kinda have to disagree with your takeaway on that. IMO Fisher was a good "player's coach" and knew how to connect with guys and motivate them and create a team atmosphere. (Discipline was only mediocre, but team morale was pretty good). Fisher's problem was with adapting to a modern offense.

Anyway-- if Fisher was razzing Goff about buying fans for the rooms, I can't imagine it was that big of a deal. The problem on that team was Fisher and Rob Boras, the OC who was in way over his head. The O was so god-awful that year, so inept and basic and predictable. Sadly Gurley was right when he ripped the "middle school offense" of that year.

I'll always defend Fisher as a good guy and a good player's coach. But I'll always think he was deficient in the tactics of modern offense. Just my 2 cents.
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