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Mel Kiper 2016 rookie big board

http://www.espn.com/nfl/insider/sto...kiel-elliott-dallas-cowboys-strike-draft-gold

Here's the third edition of my ranking of the top rookies through Week 6 in the NFL, plus another group of guys who just missed the list. I've also included the rankings of where each player landed on my final top 300 prospects list before the 2016 draft.

Here are the parameters, same as always:

  • This is a measure for all games this season, not just last week.

  • Total snap count matters. Staying on the field is a measure of value.

  • Positional value matters, but overall performance and impact on the team matter more.

  • Relative value matters. I ask: Would this player be a starter on most teams or on a good team?

1. Dak Prescott, QB, Dallas Cowboys
Previously ranked: 2 | Final 2016 Big Board rank: 114

How can Prescott not move up to No. 1? The fourth-round pick is No. 2 in the league in Total QBR, he just set the record for passes without an interception to open a career (176) and the Cowboys are 5-1. As Tony Romo inches closer to a return from his back injury, an interesting QB1 decision looms.

2. Carson Wentz, QB, Philadelphia Eagles
Previously ranked: 1 | Final 2016 Big Board rank: 7

The No. 2 overall pick has had some expected growing pains the past two weeks. Wentz's Total QBR has taken a plunge -- from No. 8 after Week 4 to No. 25 now -- and the Eagles have lost two straight after a 3-0 start. He completed just 50 percent of his passes in Philadelphia's loss to Washington last weekend. Wentz's future is bright, though. The tools are there.

3. Jack Conklin, OT, Tennessee Titans
Previously ranked: 5 | Final 2016 Big Board rank: 4

Conklin is such a steady presence at right tackle. Tennessee, led by a much-improved offensive line, is up to No. 2 in the league in yards per carry (4.9). Conklin is going to have a long career in the NFL.

4. Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Dallas Cowboys
Previously ranked: 8 | Final 2016 Big Board rank: 8

Before the draft, I said Elliott was one of the best running back prospects to enter the league over the past decade, and he is already leading the league in rushing -- by more than 100 yards. He's also leading the league in carries. The Cowboys have relied on him too much so far. How about saving his legs when they're up by two touchdowns?

5. Jatavis Brown, ILB, San Diego Chargers
Previously ranked: 6 | Final 2016 Big Board rank: 248

Brown, filling in for Manti Te'o, who's out for the season, leads the Chargers in tackles with 42. Brown was a fifth-round pick after earning the award for MAC defensive player of the year at Akron. He looks promising. After 11.5 sacks last season for the Zips, he has three for San Diego in limited snaps. He has also forced two fumbles.

6. DeForest Buckner, DE, San Francisco 49ers
Previously ranked: 7 | Final 2016 Big Board rank: 9

After missing a game with a foot injury, Buckner returned in Week 6 and had two sacks -- the first of his career -- against the Bills. He leads 49ers defensive linemen in snaps and tackles. At 6-foot-7, 300 pounds, he has a unique combination of power and length, and he's still developing his pass-rushing skills.

7. Keanu Neal, S, Atlanta Falcons
Previously ranked: NR | Final 2016 Big Board rank: 50

Neal missed the first two games of the season because of a knee injury. He has adjusted quickly to the speed of the league and is racking up tackles. He had 11 in the loss to the Seahawks last weekend. He also has two forced fumbles this season.

8. Hunter Henry, TE, San Diego Chargers
Previously ranked: NR | Final 2016 Big Board rank: 54

Henry, a second-round pick out of Arkansas, has really been a factor while veteran Antonio Gates has been banged up and not at full strength. My No. 2-ranked tight end in the draft has a touchdown in three straight games. His 59-yard run-and-catch against the Raiders showed off his tools. Henry's 16 first-down catches are tied for the team lead.

9. Yannick Ngakoue, DE, Jacksonville Jaguars
Previously ranked: 9 | Final 2016 Big Board rank: 108

Who could have guessed Ngakoue would have been the top-rated Jaguars rookie? The third-round pick out of Maryland has been a bright spot on the Jags' defense. He has a sack in four straight games. He also has forced three fumbles and picked off a pass. And he's only 21.

10. Joey Bosa, DE, San Diego Chargers
Previously ranked: NR | Final 2016 Big Board rank: 2

Bosa's holdout and hamstring injury kept him in the news but off the field until earlier this month. He has been fantastic in the two games he has played, with two sacks and multiple pressures. I said before the draft that the high-motor Bosa had a very high floor -- he's going to be really good for a Chargers team that has three rookies in my top 10.

11. Karl Joseph, S, Oakland Raiders
Previously ranked: 11 | Final 2016 Big Board rank: 13

After playing no defensive snaps in Weeks 1 and 2, Joseph took over as the Raiders' starting strong safety. With ball skills and a physical edge, Joseph brings a fear factor to the defense as an explosive, controlled hitter. The No. 14 overall pick had an interception and fumble recovery in the win over the Chargers in Week 5.

12. Michael Thomas, WR, New Orleans Saints
Previously ranked: 14 | Final 2016 Big Board rank: 67

Thomas is still raw, and his ceiling is very high. But he leads the Saints in catches and is second in targets in their pass-happy offense. He also has a touchdown in his past three games. The second-round pick was a big-play threat at Ohio State, but he's averaging just 11.8 yards per reception in the NFL. One interesting note: He has no catches between the hashes.

13. Cody Whitehair, C, Chicago Bears
Previously ranked: 13 | Final 2016 Big Board rank: 57

When I scouted Whitehair before the draft, I thought he would need to move away from tackle and play guard or center in the NFL. I thought he could be an immediate starter on the interior. Now, he has thrived in the middle of the Bears' offensive line after they initially slated him at guard, then moved him over after signing Josh Sitton. Chicago picked up a guy in the second round who can start for many years.

14. Sterling Shepard, WR, New York Giants
Previously ranked: 5 | Final 2016 Big Board rank: 43

The second-round pick's production has taken a dive recently -- he has only 142 receiving yards in his past four games -- but he's still getting targeted by Eli Manning. He's second on the Giants in targets with 41, and he has 26 catches and two touchdowns on the season. Sixteen of his catches have gone for first downs.

15. Rashard Robinson, CB, San Francisco 49ers
Previously ranked: NR | Final 2016 Big Board rank: 245

The 49ers have allowed the seventh-fewest passing yards per game -- their No. 32-ranked rushing defense is another story -- and Robinson has been a solid addition. The fourth-round pick who played only 20 games at LSU filled in for an injured Jimmie Ward and played well. After suffering a concussion in the loss to the Bills, the 6-foot-1 Robinson could be out this week.

16. Deion Jones, ILB, Atlanta Falcons
Previously ranked: 15 | Final 2016 Big Board rank: 49

A second-round pick, Jones has been productive for the 4-2 Falcons. The 6-foot-1, 222-pound defender is undersized, but he can play the pass well in the middle of the Atlanta defense. He had a 90-yard pick-six in the Week 3 win over the Saints. He missed Atlanta's win over Denver because of an ankle injury, but he returned last week.

17. Cody Kessler, QB, Cleveland Browns
Previously ranked: NR | Final 2016 Big Board rank: 184

Kessler, forced to play because of injuries to Robert Griffin III and Josh McCown, has been better than expected. I thought the undersized (6-1, 215 pounds) signal-caller would be a career backup -- he regressed as a senior at USC, and he doesn't have a big-time arm. But he has been efficient early on, completing 65.6 percent of his passes and throwing just one interception (with four touchdown passes). Now, Kessler's efficiency hasn't led to wins for the 0-6 Browns, but his play is one of the few bright spots so far. I ranked him as my No. 13 QB before the draft.

18. Will Fuller, WR, Houston Texans
Previously ranked: 4 | Final 2016 Big Board rank: 31

Fuller has dropped here -- he has only one catch in the past two weeks and is dealing with a hamstring injury. He has made some big plays, though; he's averaging 16.4 yards per catch and has two touchdowns. He's a big-play threat on every route, and he has blinding speed when healthy (4.32-second 40-yard dash).

19. Jarran Reed, DT, Seattle Seahawks
Previously ranked: NR | Final 2016 Big Board rank: 21

Don't judge Reed by the stat sheet, although he does have a sack. The second-round pick has played only 130 snaps in the Seahawks' defensive line rotation. The 6-3, 311-pound defensive tackle is a powerful guy up front who can control the line of scrimmage. I rated him as the best run defender in the draft among linemen.

20. Jalen Ramsey, CB, Jacksonville Jaguars
Previously ranked: 12 | Final 2016 Big Board rank: 3

Ramsey has been good, not great. He has been burned a few times. He's a truly gifted player with the size and speed to be an All-Pro defender. The lack of interceptions was the only knock on Ramsey coming out of Florida State; he had only three in his college career, and he's waiting for his first pro pick.

Next in line
Su'a Cravens, LB, Washington Redskins; Blake Martinez, ILB, Green Bay Packers; Cory James, ILB, Oakland Raiders; Ryan Kelly, C, Indianapolis Colts; Jordan Howard, RB, Chicago Bears; Andy Janovich, FB, Denver Broncos; Darron Lee, ILB, New York Jets; Taylor Decker, OT, Detroit Lions; Alex Lewis, OT/OG, Baltimore Ravens; Adolphus Washington, DL, Buffalo Bills; Elandon Roberts, LB, New England Patriots

This one time I totally agree with Richard Sherman

The irony here is kiing me.....
Sherman gets the NBA star treatment by the NFL. Jordan constantly committed offensive fouls and Kobe traveled all the time. Sherman gets away with more PI than anyone I can think of. Maybe he is better at it....shielding his interference from the ref, when he does hold he tends to keep the receivers arm close to his body....he doesn't get the arm extended. That said there are obvious PI that directly affect games he gets away with....see his grab on Britt in the endzone and the Falcons game last week.
Changing PI to a 15 yarder just insures guys will PI late in games.
Pass.

Mid-season Rams Rookie of the Year? None other than LB Josh Forrest by default

I think we will be seeing more & more of Josh Forrest as the season continues...one very big reason is Josh's Talent/Ability to slip through the LOS untouched on both run & pass plays. Not saying he has big talent as a blitzing LB'er but is just sneaky getting through the traffic & causing issues for the offense. WSLB/S Mark Barron has been ineffective in the first 6 games in making plays as he did last season but rookie Josh flashed some of this talent last Sunday big time.

Having a big large tall strong LB'er on the field can pay big dividends as the defense struggles & as the bad weather moves in later. Right now its a Joyner/Forrest tag team as the 11th player starter. Now we know why veteran LB'er Akeem Ayers was released. Lets hope that Forrest can pick up the tug rope that Barron seems to have dropped a bit lately. Last year playmaker Mark Barron appears to have turned down the intensity level in October:sadwalk:.
Yeah honestly it's because Barron is the one they have constantly blitz. He can't blitz anymore he's been completely ineffective. His thing that makes him scary is his speed, ability to hit and his coverage skills from being a safety originally

Rams may have paid the wrong receiver

Are we talking about these 6 games again?

Because Austin accounted for >1100 yards in 2015 combining receiving, rushing, and returns.

Again, Britt's not topped 800 (over 8 seasons) on this metric.

Tavon Austin averages 44 yards per game from scrimmage rushing/recieving. (he averages 9 yards per reception career..)

He has scored 17 td's from scrimmage in 50 games.

He is a decent punt returner 9 yards per return and 3 TD's in 50 games.

I'm not really comparing him to Britt or anyone else specifically - he just hasn't produced enough in his career to get that huge of a contract.

Like I said previously maybe he will blow up the next couple of years and it will all be worth it.

Case Keenum wants to finish what he's started in turning around the offense

Gary Klein
http://www.latimes.com/sports/rams/la-sp-rams-keenum-20161019-snap-story.html

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Rams quarterback Case Keenum likes the surroundings. He’s enjoying the luxurious, sprawling, tree-lined resort where the team is encamped outside the city.

“We’ve got a good pitch here,” Keenum, affecting the appropriate vernacular, said Wednesday after practice on the resort’s field where England’s national rugby team trains.

The Rams just had completed the first day of preparation for Sunday’s game against theNew York Giants at Twickenham Stadium.

Keenum is focused on another kind of finish. The elusive kind. The kind that wins games.

Consider: Last week against the Detroit Lions, Keenum produced perhaps the best statistical performance of his NFL career.

Jeff Fisher said. “The game slowed down for him.”

Said offensive lineman Rodger Saffold: “Nobody knew how well he was doing until after the game…. He didn’t even know it — and he was the one throwing ’em.”

Keenum passed for 321 yards and three touchdowns. He also rushed for a touchdown.

“I thought I gave guys chances to make plays down the field,” he said.

It was all for naught.

Keenum had a pass intercepted with a little more than a minute left, sealing the Rams’ 31-28 defeat.

“I’ve got to — we’ve got to — finish,” Keenum said. “To have the ball in your hands with a chance to tie or win the game with a minute-and-half left, you’ve got to do it in this league.”

“It’s something I want to do and I know I can do and know this team can do.”

The game against the Lions was not the first time Keenum came up short.

In the previous week’s defeat against the Buffalo Bills, the Rams had the ball twice in the final minutes. They went three-and-out and then tried an ill-fated fake punt that led to a Buffalo touchdown and an 11-point lead.

Keenum, 28, had been a career backup until Fisher anointed him the starter going into offseason workouts.

He did not flinch when the Rams traded up to the top of the draft to select quarterbackJared Goff. Keenum played well during the exhibition season and kept his job. And his performance in defeat Sunday quelled some of the calls for the Rams to turn over the offense to Goff immediately.

Keenum is still learning about himself, he said.

“I never want to feel like I’ve arrived or gotten ‘there,’ wherever ‘there’ is,” he said. “I think that’s what all the good ones do — they continue to get better, no matter how much they’ve played or how many games they’ve played or how much experience they have.”

But Keenum would like to add to his resume by leading the Rams to victory with a late-game drive.

“All the great ones, they’re known for never being out of a game,” he said. “That’s definitely something that I want to take pride in.

“No matter what the situation is, I want to be able to go down and score points.”

Getting defensive

It’s been several days — and several thousand miles — since the loss to Detroit, but middle linebacker Alec Ogletree still feels responsible.

So there’s a new goal for the unit he leads.

“Play 10 times better on defense,” he said. “It started with me just talking to the guys and getting everybody’s mind right.

“We’re going to have a different approach this week. It’s the same thing we’ve been doing but we just need to just focus in a lot more and make sure we get back to what we were doing.”

The Giants feature quarterback Eli Manning and receivers Odell Beckham Jr., Sterling Shepard and Victor Cruz.

“They can put up 40 points in a matter of seconds if you’re not careful,” Ogletree said.

Quick hits

Defensive tackle Michael Brockers did not practice because of a thigh injury. Brockers was sidelined against Buffalo because of a hip injury but returned against the Lions and suffered the new injury. Defensive end Robert Quinn (shoulder) was limited.... Former Rams cornerback Janoris Jenkins has two interceptions for the Giants.

TRANSCRIPT: Rams Head Coach Jeff Fisher and QB Case Keenum (10-19-16)

I was informed over the last few days that this game was sold out over a period of a couple hours
All the ROD Members, and other Rams Fans got their early!!(y);):D

(On if there is any timetable for DT Michael Brockers)
“Nothing, no. he just didn’t practice today. So we’ll see how that goes as each day moves forward.”
I sure hope he's a GO for Sunday! I don't want anyone out of this game!!

(On if he’s had a chance to look at the stadium, and if he understands the significance of being the first football team to play a game in Twickenham Stadium)
I didn't know this^!

(On the status of DE Robert Quinn)

“Rob is coming. He was limited today on the practice field. We’re optimistic that he’ll be able to return.”
This is great News!(y):mrburnsevil:

Interview: Rams OL Jamon Brown in London

http://www.sbsun.com/sports/20161018/la-rams-working-on-springing-todd-gurley-loose

"By all accounts, the Rams are making slow progress toward getting Gurley going, and Gurley hasn’t made a peep of complaint when it comes to his linemen, but guard Jamon Brown indicated some frustration Tuesday.

“It’s obviously a tough time, because Todd Gurley is an amazing football player,” Brown said. “But we knew, coming into this year, that a lot of people were going to be ready.o_O They were going to load the box. They were going to do everything they could to contain him.”:thinking:

Gurley rushed for 58 yards on 14 carries in Sunday’s loss to Detroit. That’s not great:palm:, but his average of 4.1 yards per carry was his best of the season. Gurley also caught four passes for 39 yards.

Gurley was productive early in the Detroit game, but the Rams went away from him during the second half in part because of the hot hand of quarterback Case Keenum. For the first time this season, Gurley consistently was able to get to the line of scrimmage and find holes, rather than immediately being hit.

The biggest thing for us, as offensive linemen,” Brown said, “is to not try to go outside of ourselves, but just to continue to work together and come together to try to open those holes and give him the opportunity he needs. Up to this point, I feel like we’re on the brink of making it happen."

“We’ve just got to keep working. Coach always tells us, those big runs come from the small, 2-yard, 3-yard gains. We’ll get those big gains.”:icare:

:wow:

Kenny Britt's juggling grab is best of Week 6

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000723663/article/kenny-britts-juggling-grab-is-best-of-week-6

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Don't give up. Don't ever give up.

Kenny Britt learned on Sunday that with patience and persistence great things are possible. Though the Los Angeles Rams may have lost a three-point game to the Detroit Lions, their second in two weeks, their leading wide receiver hauled in one winner of a catch.

Britt's juggling grab against the Lionstopped Week 6's Top "Performance Moments of the Week", presented by Bridgestone. (link at top)

Down seven with 9:49 to go in the third quarter, the Rams were looking to strike back after Matthew Stafford led the Lions on a quick 60-yard touchdown drive to take the lead. On the first play of the drive, Rams quarterback Case Keenum made a play-action fake to Todd Gurley and dropped back to pass to Britt. The wideout had beaten cornerback Johnson Bademosi, but the corner was closing fast along with help from safety Glover Quin.

Keenum's pass dropped in just beyond the outstretched arm of Bademosi and into Britt's right hand. The wide receiver held the ball close to his chest as he fell to the ground, only to seemingly lose control of the pigskin after being touched down. His ensuing bobble was theatrical, albeit unnecessary, as his initial grab had secured a Rams first down on a 47-yard pass play. L.A. went on to tie the game five plays later.

Also on the countdown: Kendall Wright shows off the right stuff on a diving touchdown. ... Odell wins in football and in love. ... Arrelious Benn emerges from irrelevance to secure Jacksonville's second-straight win.
Great Catch!! And I don't want to hear from anyone, anymore that we don't have a #1 receiver or that Keenum hasn't got a Deep Ball!!(y)(y):D:yess::yay:

Wait! There's a pattern here: Rams drafted RB's start off strong but continue to hit a wall?

The prevailing opinion among sports writers that I follow is that the OL is letting Gurley down with poor blocking which bears out when watching the games live in my view.
I think the OL has to an extent but Gurley hasn't helped at times. He isn't a loss cause. I did say during the game that Gurley needed that touchdown as a confidence booster, much more than Keenum when he ran it in..

Don't give up guys !

The Rams should win this game, so they're probably going to lose. Sorry for the negativity, but not going to get up early to watch this one. I'll stream it later if it's close, but I expect Eli to look like an All Star against our defense.

I have zero faith in this team right now. Hoping still, but meh. Sad thing is I can't even switch to Hockey since the Kings already lost Quick to injury and look terrible. Hits keep on comin for my teams sigh.

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