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20 Random Post-Draft Thoughts

As I kick this draft around I'm thinking right now that...

1. The OL took back seat because it's depth and they want the Super Bowl now. Worry about it later basically. Of course they wanted a center and left tackle but the other stuff was more important given that they like their guys.

2. When you lose in the playoffs due to your DL getting trucked and then you lose a starter and a top backup something has to come in. Also I think the ground game losses were particularly sickening to them. It was a fatal flaw in a great defense last year. And keep in mind that previous to last season the only McVay defense to play the run well was our 2019 group and that was only in spurts like the playoff run when Suh quit taking plays off.

3. They wanted enough depth to absorb passing game talent loss due to injury. When Kupp goes down are they going to be better off? I have to say yes.

4. This was probably the best round 4 and 5 range I've seen from Snead. I really like the players they chose in those rounds. IMO those players made our draft..

I'm not gonna worry about the OL next year until after this season. Let's go win a Super Bowl. :horns: :biggrin: :horns:

Has anyone had experience with the new Ford Bronco??????

The new Bronco is nice, Fit and finish are somewhere in between utilitarian and comfort as you may expect from a vehicle in this price range. My coworker has one and is happy. I don't get into the Chevy vs Ford thing seems silly to me but the Bronco is a similar size to the OG so it would be a much better choice to wheel in tight mountain trails than the larger Blazers that we always managed to get stuck as kids.
Old Broncos are more than the new ones in So Cal.
I always wanted to do a Scout renovation but that is another story

KNEEJERK CENTRAL: Who Won the Draft???

I was iffy on Fields after watching him for two years. When he got drafted by Chicago, AKA the QB cemetery, I immediately wrote him off. They're getting an 'A' from every pundit, which might be fair, but all I can think is surefire bust going there.

They can give teams like the Jaguars and Bengals or Bears an A all they want. Jacksonville and Chicago are both coming to LA for beatdowns this year. They'll keep saying we're going all in. Two years from now they'll ignore that our draft class was better than Chicago's and give us another C, rinse and repeat.

I know it's been divisive here, but so much of a players success is the situation they go to. Aside from having a great coach, on defense we have two hall of famers in their prime. Rochell and the Browns will be working in the same rooms as AD and Ramsey. That type of advantage can't be quantified.

And IMO its the biggest reason why I would almost always give our drafts high grades - our front office has proven that they rarely draft "busts" and our coaches and players can raise the level of marginal players.

2021 NFL Draft: Rounds 2-3

Can't believe a draft expert like you thought Dalman, who went early 4th, would be an UDFA.

Need to work in the scouting skills.
Considering in this draft the usual UDFA talent level could be taken in the sixth, and seventh rounds I don't seem to be far off.
Because those who thought that are guessing and going by too many talking heads who are also guessing or listening to "insiders" who are bullshitting them.He went in round 3. 32 teams all with varying needs can make it difficult to project late second to late third rounders.

He went in round three. With 32 teams all prioritizing different needs, going from late second to late third isn't too bad of an evaluation.

By The Athletic NFL Staff - Los Angeles Rams 2021 NFL draft picks: Grades, how they fit, full scouting reports


Los Angeles Rams 2021 NFL draft picks: Grades, how they fit, full scouting reports​

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By The Athletic NFL Staff May 1, 2021
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The Los Angeles Rams entered the 2021 NFL Draft with six picks during the three-day event.
The Rams went 10-6 last season and won in the wild-card round in the playoffs before falling to Green Bay in the divisional round. They made one of the biggest moves of the NFL’s offseason when they traded Jared Goff for Matthew Stafford at the end of January.
The Rams don’t have a lot of picks in this draft and that makes them candidates for acquiring additional selections throughout the weekend. Center Austin Blythe is gone and it’s unclear the direction the Rams will go at that position that is important with Stafford coming over from Detroit.
LIVE BLOG: Updates from the NFL Draft
BIG BOARD: Dane Brugler’s best available players

ROUND 2

No. 57: Tutu Atwell, WR, Louisville

Jourdan Rodrigue’s analysis: Atwell was a bit of a surprise move for the Rams’ first pick because centers Creed Humphrey and Quinn Meinerz were both available at the time (perhaps hinting that the Rams would seek Stanford’s Drew Dalman with a later pick), as well as a bevy of cornerbacks. But NFL Network said Rams coach Sean McVay referred to Atwell as “DeSean Jackson Jr.” (the Rams also signed Jackson this spring on a one-year, incentive-heavy deal), and there’s no denying the bond McVay shared with a younger, similarly skilled Jackson during his Washington days. Jackson’s presence on the roster won’t preclude Atwell from being worked into the rotation as Atwell is versatile enough to align from a variety of places (including from the backfield on sweeps and reverses) and will certainly compete at punt and kickoff return.
Dane Brugler’s analysis: Stafford tossing bombs to Atwell will be a thing in 2021. Atwell is tiny and the lack of size is an obvious concern, but he has elite speed to stretch out the defense, very similar to Hollywood Brown. The threat of his deep speed will help open up the field for Cooper Kupp and Robert Woods.
Sheil Kapadia’s grade: C-. Atwell (5-foot-9, 155 pounds) is small, but he was productive in college with 140 catches for 2,307 yards and 21 touchdowns. The size is a legit concern. Atwell missed two full games and parts of others last season because of a back injury. He also had issues with drops (15 in the last three seasons). If Atwell works out, the Rams will have a new version of Jackson. But they’re betting on the exception here, which is risky for a team with limited resources. Atwell was Brugler’s 95th-ranked prospect.

ROUND 3

No. 103: Ernest Jones, LB, South Carolina

Jourdan Rodrigue’s analysis: Jones, who led South Carolina in tackles as their “Mike” linebacker for two seasons, was “their guy” through and through, according to Jones, coach Sean McVay and general manager Les Snead.
Dane Brugler’s analysis: While he appears stiff with his redirect in coverage, Jones is a long, physical linebacker who can mirror at the line of scrimmage and shut down the run. He led the Gamecocks in tackles each of the last two seasons and should be a quality early down player as a rookie.
Sheil Kapadia’s grade: B. Jones (6-foot-2, 230 pounds) had a productive college career. He started 21 games and led South Carolina in tackles in 2019 and 2020. Jones will need to prove himself in coverage to stay on the field, but he’s a nice option for the Rams at this stage of the draft.

ROUND 4

No. 117 Bobby Brown, DT, Texas A&M

Jourdan Rodrigue’s analysis: Bobby Brown at No. 117 is a pretty intriguing one in my mind, because while he could use some technical development, he’s about to funnel into the Eric Henderson system — where Henderson will see a lot to do with the explosive power and raw athleticism Brown is described by evaluators to have. Even after losing 2 DL in free agency, Brown needs/can get a redshirt year.
Dane Brugler’s analysis: Overall, Brown might require an NFL redshirt year as he figures out how to use all of his gifts, but he is one of the youngest players in this class and NFL coaches will view him as moldable clay due to his raw power and athletic traits. He projects as a developmental tackle.

No. 130 Robert Rochell, CB, Central Arkansas

Jourdan Rodrigue’s analysis: This is a pick I am very, very interested in. Rochell has a great frame (6-0, 193) and has a TON of potential upside because of his high athleticism, speed and reactive traits.
Dane Brugler’s analysis: Rochell is an NFL-level athlete with his immediate acceleration and reactive twitch to match up against pro speed. While he is athletic, his base fundamentals and process are sporadic (leading to big plays allowed) and he needs to stay locked in every snap. Whether he lives up to his NFL starting-level upside comes down to the development of his technique and discipline.

No. 141 Jacob Harris, WR, UCF

Jourdan Rodrigue’s analysis: Harris was described to me as an “athletic project” as it pertains to the offense specifically — but, the Rams expect him to contribute immediately on special teams and in fact was their top-ranked special-teamer on the board (this is about when those guys start coming up). ST coordinator Joe DeCamillis (former Jaguars) is very familiar with Harris.
Dane Brugler’s analysis: Harris plays with controlled burst and long strides to challenge defensive backs, flashing potential to run the full tight end route tree. In order to make it at the next level, he must improve his focus and finish as both a pass-catcher and blocker. Overall, Harris faces obvious growing pains and is older than ideal for a developmental prospect, but his blend of size and athleticism is rare and his special teams skills will keep him on an NFL roster as he develops. Several teams view him as a tight end while others grade him at wide receiver.

ROUND 5

No. 174 Earnest Brown IV, DE, Northwestern

Jourdan Rodrigue’s analysis: Brown has the exact length that new defensive coordinator Raheem Morris is looking for (6-5). Brown could rotate in, especially in sub-packages in which Rams are in even fronts/perhaps develop into an outside-inside player.
Dane Brugler’s analysis: Brown plays with strong hands at the point-of-attack to stack, shed and find the football. However, he is too segmented with his movements and lacks the upfield juice to threaten blockers as a pass rusher. Overall, Brown is a slow-twitch player, but he sets a physical edge and stays assignment sound versus the run. He projects as a backup base defensive end in a four-man front.

ROUND 7

No. 233 Jake Funk, RB, Maryland

Jourdan Rodrigue’s analysis: The Rams’ pick of running back Jake Funk at No. 233 feels like a total special teams move to me considering his noted prowess there, and his promising athletic profile aligns with the developmental prospects they have targeted all throughout today’s picks. Funk (Maryland) has also had two ACL repair surgeries.
Jeff Zrebiec on Funk the player: Funk felt like he answered some questions with his performance last month at Maryland’s pro day. He clocked a 4.43 in the 40-yard dash, registered a 38-inch vertical jump and did 22 reps of 225 pounds.

No. 249 Ben Skowronek, WR, Notre Dame

Jourdan Rodrigue’s analysis: The Rams’ pickup of Notre Dame receiver Ben Skowronek will raise some eyebrows, but his potential is as bigger-bodied blocking help, and maybe special teams tenure. The Rams are making a lot — a LOT — of special teams picks in these later rounds; another sure sign that Sean McVay was pissed about how the unit performed last year. They’re on their third coordinator in as many years.
Dane Brugler’s analysis: Skowronek allows defensive backs to stay on top of him, but his catch radius and competitive chops will give him a chance at sticking on an NFL roster. He projects as a back-end receiver or tight end who will make an impact on special teams.

No. 252 Chris Garrett, LB, Concordia St. Paul

Jourdan Rodrigue’s analysis: The Rams picked outside linebacker Chris Garrett at No. 252 overall, finishing up their draft as they did so. Garrett is pretty intriguing to me, as a small-school prospect (St. Paul-Concordia) and is kind of built like a weakside linebacker — but posted crazy collegiate stats as a pass-rush specialist. Could the Rams hope for an eventual purely situational rush role for Garrett?

So, which position group should Snead/McVay really go ‘all in’ on in this draft?

I'm not disputing his play on the field. I am just pointing out that he has major injury concerns. For some reason, guys out of Bama get injuries like this and it follows them. I'm not saying he isn't good, i'm saying he is a medical risk

I guess Reggie Scott was on The Rams staff back then as well? I don’t know what the evaluation on Landon.
I do trust in his word & determination.He found himself a good spot to develop & won’t be ask to start day 1.
Fair enough, now it’s about Tutu & DJ11 to stay healthy work together.I like The Rams group of offensive lineman. I haven’t been a Fan of Brian Allen,but hope he is 100% healthy and ready to compete.Austin Corbett could be The Rams starting Center of the future,or the swing RG/Center starter?
I’d take Dickerson over Anchrum though & if he sat a season would help let the log jam clear up..
Noteboom
Allen
Corbett
Coleman
Whitworth/ ? Retire ?
Demby
That is a lot of question marks in 2022.

Then Brewer,Havenstien,Edwards,Evans, and Anchrum become Free Agents.

I like the upside of The Rams guys & think Joe Noteboom is The Rams future LT. Everyone has there view.

I did say Landon Dickerson would not get by The Rams at 57,which was a true statement even if it was not 100% ?

Rams Draft Thoughts

My comment was in response to so called experts grades. They are meaningless.
Had no issues with your analysis.
I woke up grumpy I guess

Thanks CanadaRam! I just have a real problem adding Attachments & Links! They NEVER go up how I saw them!!! And, That Article/Analysis was Absolutely HORRIBLE!!! I would LOVE to revisit this Rams Draft with this author in a few years!!
I think this Rams Draft Class will be just FINE (Actually, I think it will be Very, VERY Good!!!)!

My first impression of the draft

Most of the o-line problems have been issues of technique and being played out of position. When your line coach plays a tall LT like Noteboom and throws him to the wolves to play OG a position he's never played at any level while he has Shelton who is built like and has always played as a center / OG on the roster there is a problem. He obviously convinced McVay he was ready and he wasn't. That coaching incompetence cost two players, both Noteboom and Allen. So what does Kromer do? He doubles down and plays Edwards at LG. Like Noteboom it was clear he also wasn't ready and also struggled getting his tall frame low enough to play with leverage like an OG must play the position. Again he had Shelton and Evans (though as inexperienced as Edwards, he is built like a NFL OG) that he could have used.

When Allen went down Kromer moved "his boy" Blythe to center and he was abused. At no point apparently, was Shelton ready to play at either center or OG? Give me a freaking break.

Kromer installs the easiest blocking scheme for their runs, outside zone with a horizontal concept. That is high school stuff. It wasn't until last year that he modified it to a vertical concept (i.e. with gap blocking concepts). Last year they tried to run inside zone, straight gap blocking, and power gap but the o-line was extremely inconsistent partly because Blythe simply couldn't play that scheme and the rest of the guys often looked confused.

Later in the season when they began to play the division a second time and in the playoffs against better DC's his horizontal zone tel was exposed. I mentioned it repeatedly it was so obvious to me. On runs, the zone was vertically blocked and on play-action the blocking concept was horizontal. That's why Goff began to be met by the backside LB who wasn't fooled because of the tel. Kromer never all season picked up on it.

I could go on and on but suffice it to say Kromer deserved being ousted. It didn't matter what scheme Kromer tried to run the execution was at best inconsistent and at the worst piss poor. Those are hallmarks of crap coaching and even McVay couldn't deny it anymore.

So coach up the players properly, play the players at their position of best fit and scheme it out correctly and the players will execute it as it should be. I anticipate Carberry running some variant of a gap blocking scheme. No offensive line is perfect. But as long as this is a top 5 unit like I think it can be then that would be good enough. The Buccaneers' o-line finished the season ranked #5. But that doesn't guarantee offensive success. Green Bay and Cleveland both had top-rated o-lines both better than the Bucs and it didn't get them to the Super Bowl.

I have no doubt that there is more than enough talent on the o-line if it is played properly and well coached.
You might be right to an extent on the schemes but regarding Edwards I see it differently. Edwards clearly isn't an ideal guard but when Noteboom went down Edwards played real well. He probably got the start over Shelton due to the fact that Edwards had experience the prior year and actually played well at guard. This wasn't preseason. We were in a real division race and needed a reliable lineman to plug the hole immediately. Edwards play really solid. Actually it wasn't until his injury and Evans failure to fill that gap that our LG spot began to implode again, as seen vs GB. I am not sure why everyone thinks Shelton is the next coming of Quinton Nelson. If Shelton is going to be a solid player it probably will take lots of reps and sticking him in front of Edwards during the playoff push doesn't seem wise based on where Edwards was at and what he could give us. Regarding Blythe, I am not sure how starting him at center was Kroemers fault. He played the hand he was given which was no center in the 2020 draft.

Regarding the Bucs, they not only got healthy going into the playoffs but their defense started forcing lots of turnovers. Not to mention Rogers brain farts in the red zone. Oline is critically important but so is playing lights out defense in crunch time and forcing turnovers. Cleveland heavily upgraded their defense in the offseason because their D wasn't good enough either. It's a team game. Oline and a hot Defense was the bucs ticket. Or as casual fans put it, Brady did it again. :facepalm:

Post Day 3 press Rams press conference

Looking at what followed R2.57 pick Atwell. That’s a lot of primo talent the Rams passed on and all at positions of need. This draft will be remembered for that decision.

58) Kansas City Chiefs (from BAL) – Nick Bolton, LB, Missouri
59) Carolina Panthers (from CLE) – Terrace Marshall Jr., WR, LSU
60) New Orleans Saints – Pete Werner, LB, Ohio State
61) Buffalo Bills – Carlos Basham Jr., DE, Wake Forest
62) Green Bay Packers – Josh Myers, C, Ohio State
63) Kansas City Chiefs – Creed Humphrey, C, Oklahoma
How about the snippet from Snead that they attempted to trade up a few times... Who wants to bet that they didn't try to get Eskridge with a trade up?

Rational Anger, An Outdated perspective

Judging by the offseason thus far, the Rams felt like the QB problem was a bigger issue than any OL problem. I agree.

I do agree with @Merlin though, in that i would like to see more physicality/toughness/nastiness in our guys up front. Having said that, in those particular games where the Rams (McV) were determined to pound the football they did just that and kind of made it look easy at times.

Pressure washer

Where in FL? I'm south of Tampa and we've only had sun or thunderstorms... except a maybe a few early morning showers before dawn, but my neighbors wouldn't be happy if I was out pressure washing my driveway at 4am...LOL
We are heading to the Venice/Port Charlotte area to look for a house June 5th! Where you at exactly? Can't remember if you told me...(Oldtimers kicking in)

Brad Holmes - gets his guy

Pace? Thats going a little far in my opinion. He is a very solid prospect, but he isn't what Pace was coming out of OSU.

Still, I would think that Lions fans have to be thrilled with Brad Holmes so far.

Of course, day 2 and even more so day 3 of the draft are where the GMs really separate themselves.
I think Jason Peters is a fair comparison. Sewell's dimensions, skillset, and measurables are very similar. But the kid is very much a freak, and he's still only 20 years old (until October). Peters is a 9-time Pro Bowler and a 6-time All Pro. I could see Sewell having a similar career. It was a grand slam of a pick.

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