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Yeah I imagine the Rams agree with you. It will take someone they really value being there, someone they know won't be around much longer but who would really move that needle for them, in order to not look for a trade down.
I'd really like to see where the TEs are on their board. My fears are Washington and Musgrave end up being the target. Washington is a freak but I have a strong dislike for freaks who do not produce on the actual field. And Musgrave for all his measurables has very little RAC threat, he's a catch & flop king and I think we can do a lot better than that in this draft. Plus he had the knee injury.
The TEs who will help us most are the ones who can turn a catch underneath into something. Guys like LaPorta or Kraft in the early going, both of whom break tackles and mismatch LBs and safeties. And if they address it later they need to avoid guys like Kuntz who are all upside and go with a choice like Whyle instead who is quite smooth for his size.
High ceiling. Mid floor. For R2.36 and R3.69 the Rams need a higher percentage hit. Perhaps with the R3.77 pick. If the Rams were to trade down and get a late 3rd/ early 4th then hell yeah. But I doubt he makes it out of 2nd round.
O'Cyrus Torrence
Florida · IOL · Senior Torrence is a massive offensive guard with ideal instincts and play strength. In pass protection, he can bend his knees and play with balance. He has an immediate anchor and provides plenty of space for his QB to climb up into the pocket. He has strong hands to latch and control. He is very aware versus twists and stunts. In the run game, he can create movement with defenders over his nose and has surprising quickness to reach and cut off foes. He is quick to the second level, but he struggles to redirect and adjust in space. That should improve if he can drop 10-to-15 pounds. Teams that want to run downhill and create a firm interior in the pass game will really appreciate Torrence.
I have to rely on scouting reports as I have been busy. I thought he sounds a little like Saffold. I found this comparison.
Player Comparison: Rodger Saffold. Torrence is a tough player to compare, but he is somewhat reminiscent of Saffold. Saffold (6-5, 325) and Torrence are almost identical in size with serious run-blocking ability while being reliable in pass protection. Saffold had a better body entering the NFL, bringing a little more athleticism and quickness. Torrence has more power and physicality to him. Saffold was the 33rd-overall pick back in 2010, and Torrence could go in the same range this year during the 2023 NFL Draft.
Steve Avila
TCU · IOL · Senior (RS) Avila is a physically imposing guard prospect with quick feet and power. In pass protection, he is quick out of his stance, chops his feet and delivers a strong two-hand punch. He anchors easily and looks for work when he's uncovered. He is very aware and has a nasty streak. In the run game, he runs his feet on contact and drives opponents off the line of scrimmage. He does a good job staying attached to blocks. If he loses his hand placement, he is quick to replace and recover. He is sudden as a puller and can unload when he stays on a single track. He has some issues when he has to adjust and redirect his feet in space. Overall, I love the size and temperament Avila possesses. He's going to be a solid starting guard right away at the next level.
Snead could get tricky again and trade down should Torrence be gone or not. Avila adds that nastiness the Rams definitely need on the offensive line. Walters quotes that Torrence could have weight problems and a terrible body that needs conditioning.
I hope the Rams finally see the need to get a solid long-term anchor in the middle of the offensive line. Then help the pass rush.
O'Cyrus Torrence
Florida · IOL · Senior Torrence is a massive offensive guard with ideal instincts and play strength. In pass protection, he can bend his knees and play with balance. He has an immediate anchor and provides plenty of space for his QB to climb up into the pocket. He has strong hands to latch and control. He is very aware versus twists and stunts. In the run game, he can create movement with defenders over his nose and has surprising quickness to reach and cut off foes. He is quick to the second level, but he struggles to redirect and adjust in space. That should improve if he can drop 10-to-15 pounds. Teams that want to run downhill and create a firm interior in the pass game will really appreciate Torrence.
I have to rely on scouting reports as I have been busy. I thought he sounds a little like Saffold. I found this comparison.
Player Comparison: Rodger Saffold. Torrence is a tough player to compare, but he is somewhat reminiscent of Saffold. Saffold (6-5, 325) and Torrence are almost identical in size with serious run-blocking ability while being reliable in pass protection. Saffold had a better body entering the NFL, bringing a little more athleticism and quickness. Torrence has more power and physicality to him. Saffold was the 33rd-overall pick back in 2010, and Torrence could go in the same range this year during the 2023 NFL Draft.
Steve Avila
TCU · IOL · Senior (RS) Avila is a physically imposing guard prospect with quick feet and power. In pass protection, he is quick out of his stance, chops his feet and delivers a strong two-hand punch. He anchors easily and looks for work when he's uncovered. He is very aware and has a nasty streak. In the run game, he runs his feet on contact and drives opponents off the line of scrimmage. He does a good job staying attached to blocks. If he loses his hand placement, he is quick to replace and recover. He is sudden as a puller and can unload when he stays on a single track. He has some issues when he has to adjust and redirect his feet in space. Overall, I love the size and temperament Avila possesses. He's going to be a solid starting guard right away at the next level.
Snead could get tricky again and trade down should Torrence be gone or not. Avila adds that nastiness the Rams definitely need on the offensive line. Walters quotes that Torrence could have weight problems and a terrible body that needs conditioning.
I hope the Rams finally see the need to get a solid long-term anchor in the middle of the offensive line. Then help the pass rush.
Honestly, losing Saffold ruined our run game. If the rams want to be competitive this year, they’d be wise to bet on Cam, and really get some maulers in the middle. McVay has to get back to letting the running game lead this offense and make teams pay off play action. Havenstein, and Jackson/Boom are more than capable to handle the outside. I’d be more than okay with them going Oline heavy and brining back Floyd to handle the hole at edge. I feel confident Snead can find a corner in the middle to late rounds, as he has done it with DBs pretty consistently. I wouldn’t touch a running back before the 4th round unless we picked up an extra 2nd or 3rd with trades. It’s temping with guys like Gibbs and Charbonnet, but they won’t be successful behind this make shift line full of backups. This team has way more pressing need.
Honestly, losing Saffold ruined our run game. If the rams want to be competitive this year, they’d be wise to bet on Cam, and really get some maulers in the middle. McVay has to get back to letting the running game lead this offense and make teams pay off play action. Havenstein, and Jackson/Boom are more than capable to handle the outside. I’d be more than okay with them going Oline heavy and brining back Floyd to handle the hole at edge. I feel confident Snead can find a corner in the middle to late rounds, as he has done it with DBs pretty consistently. I wouldn’t touch a running back before the 4th round unless we picked up an extra 2nd or 3rd with trades. It’s temping with guys like Gibbs and Charbonnet, but they won’t be successful behind this make shift line full of backups. This team has way more pressing need.
Part of that will be making Saffold more comfortable turning his back to defense which it's reported he doesn't like, that and adding more PA into the gun-run game.
I know they are saying otherwise, but I feel like the Rams are not focusing on contending this year. If so, it probably makes sense to see if they can acquire an extra day 2 pick they can develop for the next 4 years. 4 picks in the top 90 would be nice for the long term.
The draft calculators have a late 40's early 50's along with a mid 80's as similar value to number 36 overall. Question is, will there be a trade partner when the Rams are on the clock?
Whoever the pick is I'm sure no one will have seen that one coming. I mean who would have ever thought Tutu Atwell, Logan Bruss, Taylor Rapp, etc. Going to be a surprise either way
Whoever the pick is I'm sure no one will have seen that one coming. I mean who would have ever thought Tutu Atwell, Logan Bruss, Taylor Rapp, etc. Going to be a surprise either way
Whats more confounding then the actual pick is their refusal to actually use him. He is the same size as he was when they drafted him in the 2nd round, so that can't be their excuse. He appears to be a very solid contributor when he is on the field, so that can't be their excuse either. He appears to have good hands and track the ball well, so again, can't be the reason. Implement him into every game plan this year please and let's see what we have before we don't have him.
Whats more confounding then the actual pick is their refusal to actually use him. He is the same size as he was when they drafted him in the 2nd round, so that can't be their excuse. He appears to be a very solid contributor when he is on the field, so that can't be their excuse either. He appears to have good hands and track the ball well, so again, can't be the reason. Implement him into every game plan this year please and let's see what we have before we don't have him.
IMHO they could not use Atwell because it takes even Atwell, with his other world speed, 3.5 to 4 seconds to be considered a" Go Long" guy, and last season Stafford was sacked after about 2 seconds, just sayin
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IMHO they could not use Atwell because it takes even Atwell, with his other world speed, 3.5 to 4 seconds to be considered a" Go Long" guy, and last season Stafford was sacked after about 2 seconds, just sayin
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Totally valid point. I think he could be used on quick slants also or in addition too. He can make guys miss and accelerate quickly, plus the ball would be out of Staffords hands quickly.
Will Levis’s stock plummets. Snead shocks the football world anf the Rams trade up to get him. They trade pick 36 and 69 to move to the top of round 2. McVay loves the high football IQ and the fact that Cohen has already taught him the Rams offense. Sean also loves hardworkers, he heaped praise on Wolford for his work ethic and he criticized Akers and Goff for a lack of it. Levis works his butt off.
I’d be ambivalent about the pick. It sounds like Levis could be a quick study under Stafford and McVay, but who ever really knows with college QBs. What I would love about it, is if Levis panned out, the Rams got their QB of the future, and became the physical QB that Shanahan/Lynch gave up two first round picks to draft when they got Lance. Anything to piss rat boy off is good with me.
If Levis were to fall, we would definitely be positioned as a team that knows the real skinny on him. That being insight on his work ethic, intelligence, resilience, etc., those missing pieces fans don't get from watching games. So if that were to happen I'd feel pretty damn good about it.
Also I'd feel comfortable with us passing on Levis if he falls for the same reason. Kentucky players in general we're gonna have a great feel for thanks to Liam.
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