Time to point directly at Demoff

[IowaRam]

I hear ya, but how long must we wait until real change occurs. It was to have happened by now. Whats the definition of insanity?? Watching the Rams failed rebuild plans over the last 13 years certainly would qualify.

The move was certainly a big step in the right direction, but winning is not guaranteed unless the right steps are made. The Fisher/Snead step has been a failure. Whats to guarantee if Demoff has another shot, he'll get it right?

I'm with ya , I can't stand Demoff

 

[Merlin]

I hear ya, but how long must we wait until real change occurs. It was to have happened by now. Whats the definition of insanity?? Watching the Rams failed rebuild plans over the last 13 years certainly would qualify.

We have had real change. This team is no longer a bottom feeder, they're competitive and middle of the pack now. Comparing them to the regimes that preceded Fisher is not accurate, so IMO you gotta drop that "last 13 years" look.

It's no longer enough though, and most here agree with that. But to act like nothing good has happened for this team is to ignore everything. In the past five years this roster has been made competitive in the face of not having a QB, executed a move to LA with a windfall of a stadium deal, etc.

IMO Rams fans are in a great place right now. Probably need a new coaching regime, but that remains to be seen, i.e. there is still a chance for this roster this season. Not a great chance, probably quite low given a 3-4 record, but it ain't over yet.

 

[-X-]

So yeah I do hope they keep the same terminology for the future with that hire. If they stick to hiring a guy who is a top X and O type mind, that usually means they get a great teacher of scheme too, and given that you suddenly won't have a bunch of problems with guys running the wrong routes, missing assignments, etc., at least to the level we have been subjected to.

Unfortunately (depending on how you look at it), a new Head Coach is gonna bring a whole new everything (unless it's from within, which I doubt). This is really on Stan, IMO. He's the one that needs to cast the die. He needs to say he wants to be (insert kind of team), and then ONLY hire people who fit that mold. I don't think he's done that. He only intimated that he wanted to model 'the patriot way'. He'll need to go a step further and define what that means to HIM, and then impart that on his executives all the way down to the guy who lays out the helmets.

Here's what it means and how it's defined by the patriots themselves.
Kroenke needs to define it as well.

http://www.patriots.com/video/2016/01/16/what-does-patriot-way-mean

 

[thirteen28]

Your finger is pointing at the wrong guy. Demoff is one of the best in the business at writing contracts and managing the salary cap. He doesn't choose the players, but he does write the fine details of the contracts - which is one reason we can cut guys like Sensebaugh (and a few years before that, Courtland Finnegan) and not end up in cap hell with tons of dead money counting against it. You see other teams who are not nearly as good at that aspect of player management end up in cap hell because whoever writes the contracts either doesn't know what they are doing or are just careless or too willing to gamble.

The worst thing you can say about Demoff is that he lied through his teeth to the fans in St. Louis (and I don't want to start a big discussion about the move, etc.). But as far as him doing his job in terms of writing contracts and managing the salary cap, he has been fking stellar, and losing him would be a big blow to the organization.

 

[IowaRam]

Demoff is a fine accountant

 

[JerseyRam1]

After 5 years, thats unacceptable. BTW, 5th worst in NFC now with still a tough schedule left. Most likely Rams will be in the bottom 3rd, so from the basement to below .500 is just not much of a "real change", especially without much draft capital the next two years. Also, Fishers track record is 7 losses away from most losses EVER for a HC. Think some of the others before him would have posted winning record had they had the boatload of picks Fisher had.

We have had real change. This team is no longer a bottom feeder, they're competitive and middle of the pack now. Comparing them to the regimes that preceded Fisher is not accurate, so IMO you gotta drop that "last 13 years" look.

 

[blackbart]

I hear ya, but how long must we wait until real change occurs. It was to have happened by now. Whats the definition of insanity?? Watching the Rams failed rebuild plans over the last 13 years certainly would qualify.

The move was certainly a big step in the right direction, but winning is not guaranteed unless the right steps are made. The Fisher/Snead step has been a failure. Whats to guarantee if Demoff has another shot, he'll get it right?

I know it has been a long time coming but you have to remember the first 5 or 6 of those years the Rams organization wasn't trying to rebuild they were still busy tearing it down (oblivious to the need) and then looking to sell after Georgia passed away.
The real rebuild only started with Spags which then had to be trashed when Fisher came in. By all accounts Kronke has been looking for the Patriots model to be established which means Fisher most likely isn't going anywhere. The pieces are there for the beginning of a good long run as soon as Goff can get his shit all in one sock.
It's painful but not nearly as much as the 15-65 run.

 

[DaveFan'51]

If Stan doesn't go after a seasoned head coach like I think he will (Shanahan Sr is still my bet), then he needs to hire a coach who has demonstrated a very high level of success at the coordinator level. That's what Belichick had. That's what Fish didn't have. The head coach has to hold it down on one side of the ball with the X's and O's nowadays because teams poach great minds quickly

I just wonder if bringing back Mike Martz would work!?! The Rams have brought back Previous Rams HC twice, that I can think of, Chuck Knox and George Allen. IDK if it would work, but it's an idea!

 

[JerseyRam1]

They both failed miserably in their returns. Need a premier coach. Some options: College-Saban, Meyer. Pro: Coughlin, Cower, Gruden, Jim Harabaugh (if available). I would be leery of the assistant choices but there will be some hot names like McDaniels, Schwartz, but he may have too much Fisher in him

I just wonder if bringing back Mike Martz would work!?! The Rams have brought back Previous Rams HC twice, that I can think of, Chuck Knox and George Allen. IDK if it would work, but it's an idea!

 

[RamzFanz]

Bradford is still no better than his rookie season

Well, no, he's definitely better, just not a LOT better, except in INTs.

If Stan is wise, he will clean house from top to bottom. The first decision in correcting the issue, since Demoff is not capable of correcting, is making a change at the top of Football Operations of the LA Rams.

Stan owns 5 very average sports teams. Don't hold your breath waiting for him to care about results. Or should I say he cares very much about results but tallies them far differently than we do?

Demoff was an integral player in getting Stan an instant and massive LA profit stream. He's paid for himself thousands of times over. Even if they never have another winning season Demoff may retire a Ram. Unless, of course, he gets promoted out of the organization by Kroenke.

I could easily see Demoff as taking over for Kronke at Kroenke Sports Enterprises. But fired? Not in this dimension. He's the Golden Goose.

 

[DaveFan'51]

They both failed miserably in their returns. Need a premier coach. Some options: College-Saban, Meyer. Pro: Coughlin, Cower, Gruden, Jim Harabaugh (if available). I would be leery of the assistant choices but there will be some hot names like McDaniels, Schwartz, but he may have too much Fisher in him

Well .. Let's see ... one by one:
* Saban - He couldn't cut as a HC in the pro before, so he went back to College.
* Meyer - He's a strong Possibility.
* Coughlin - He has lost his touch. ( IF he ever had one)
* Cower - I like, But he's been out of Football a long time!
* Gruden - See Cower^!
* Jim Harabaugh - YOU HAVE TO BE KIDDING! NEVER!!
* McDaniels - Failed as HC in Denver / Failed as OC with the Rams / Only works well with the Cheatriots, What's that tell you!?!
* Schwartz - Stunk as HC in Detroit / But he is a good Coordinator!
These are just my opinions, but I stand by them!

 

[Corbin]

Haha I think this has to be the most disagreed with post in ROD history!
Anyways, if to young to understand how the Rams front office works Demoff runs the operational side of things ( fan development, retention, contracts, budget etc, ) , Fisher oversees product on field and has a huge say of what talent to get or retain, Snead works on evaluating talent etc.

Demoff and Kroenke are as one, there is barely a spilt outside of name between the two.

 

[jrry32]

I have honored your request.

 

[-X-]

I'll take that bet all day. The Rams don't even have a first rounder next year. lol.

 

[-X-]

Ah. Well then, no. I don't want any of that action.

 

[-X-]

I thought the bet implied that the Rams will have the 3rd highest pick in the draft of all NFC teams.

... bets on the Rams 1st round pick being 1 of the 1st 3 NFC picks in the Draft

 

[ram007]

Jeez, We are going too far here.

Demoff is six-sigma level success at his job. He successfuly moved a billion dollar club to double it's value by being the front man for Stan. If anything, I hope Stan doubled his income overnight. Even if Rams lost two seasons with a record of 0-32 he will still be employed by Rams.

No blue font. I am not being sarcastic.