This Snead era or the "double slot draft"---which is better?

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Come on, this ain't better than the "double slot" draft: Pettis and Salas back to back in the 3rd and 4th----two good dudes banging out 4.6/40s with nothing but big bodies to offer
 
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Fendi Onobun anyone ?? and how quickly we've forgotten that receiver that just blew them away with his "look".
 
Force16X said:
Fendi Onobun anyone ??
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Just googled Fendi Onobun... he played from 2010 to 2014, on six different teams! He had a better career than I’d remembered. (Only caught 2 career passes, but he made a few million along the way...)

One of the best names in Ram history.

Anyway, yes, agreed, the new regime is (cough) just a teensy bit better at this whole drafting thing.
 
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XXXIVwin said:
Just googled Fendi Onobun... he played from 2010 to 2014, on six different teams! He had a better career than I’d remembered. (Only caught 2 career passes, but he made a few million along the way...)

One of the best names in Ram history.

Anyway, yes, agreed, the new regime is (cough) just a teensy bit better at this whole drafting thing.
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Well, yeah, knowing how to play football is a plus in being drafted. Still, if they had a clue how to develop him Fendi might have done more.
 
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How about Jason Smith, Greg Robinson, Brian Quick and who could forget trading down 5 slots with Chicago to get an extra 5th rounder and we get Isiah Pead when we were always drafting Bobby Wagner and Seattle swoops in. Throw in Fendi a guy who literally only had two passes in his entire collegiate career as ASU, but he plays basketball that qualifies him for sure. No lie 2 passes and we take him in the 6th round really?!

BTW do you know why we took Saffold bc the Smith pick was such a disaster and do you know who was the next pick someone alot of us wanted - Rob Gronkowski out of ASU.

I was one of the more hated posters on the STL forum bc I constantly ragged on Fisher, the teamt and the drafting by Fisher/Snead and how inept the team was and I was right. Hated the Jason Smit pick - one year at Baylor converted TE never had hand in the dirt sure he didn't give up a sack but look who he played.

Sam Bradford I constantly complained about picking him even though we needed a QB. At OU look who was on his team probably the best offense ever in college football his Jr year. 8 of 11 made the NFL 4 made the probowl and 3 were top 3 at their position in NFL and if you watched all the Bradford TDs the WRs were open by a mile. Not to mention 2 injuries in SR year and he played cello that should be all you need to know not to pick him.

Quick was from Apalachian State and not considered by almost any GMs except us to be a 4th rounder. The beauty of that pick is the only good games he had were against the worst teams in the division not to mention they were not even a division 1 team. Usually players that come out from small schools literally are men and boys not old Brian he had less than a 900 yards and the only DBs he beat wouldn't even get a UDFA tryout with any team in the NFL, but he's 6"3" so that makes him great . The most inept drafting in the NFL. Thank God we didn't hit on Robinson or Fendi or Quick or Pead we would still have Fisher. So there was a silver lining in our inepitude.
 
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Yeah, I’m guilty of having faith for too long in Fisher. Wasn’t until his last season that I really wanted him gone, TBH.

Not only is McVay light years ahead of Fisher in coordinating an offense, he’s light years ahead in drafting, too. (Unlike Martz, who was a great mind on O, but I didn’t trust him to build a roster.)

Rams are now elite in all phases— coaching, developing players, cap management, drafting, roster building— everything. Somehow I couldn’t see myself typing those words 3 years ago....
 
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It seems people are mixing eras. Snead and Fisher began in 2012. Can't blame them for spags and devaney picks.

Yes, Quick was bad. Missing out on Wagner was bad but only because they screwed up the other picks they got for the trade. But 2012 wasn't bad for snead's first go at this. Especially when he's looking for Fisher type players. 2013 was a waste because it seemed like they were gonna go in a different direction offensively then Fisher pulled the plug on that after 4 games so....

It was hard for snead in the Fisher era because none of his offensive picks got coached up to succeed, so they failed. His picks in the mcvay era are so much better because the coaches are better and the players have the chance to succeed.

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LesBaker said:
Nobody's perfect and the draft is a games of mid to low percentages. The leap from college to the pros is hit and miss.
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Some mistakes are worse than others. Devaney made his share of them, but the way he bungled the TE position in the 2010 draft....everyone in the world knew the Rams had the league's worst TE depth chart, that Sam Bradford needed pass catchers....that the 2010 draft was loaded with pass catching TEs...passing on day 1 contributors to chase a pie in the sky.
 
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bubbaramfan said:
The underlying common trait all the above guys with great bodies and speed all lacked. Something Fisher never considered, but what McSnead's draftee's all have.

FOOTALL SMARTS
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My biggest gripe back then. Fisher wanted elite athletes. I kept saying they need Football players who actually know how to play the game and have had success in the past. I hated how ready Fisher was to accept poor character to get elite athleticism.



kurtfaulk said:
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It seems people are mixing eras. Snead and Fisher began in 2012. Can't blame them for spags and devaney picks.

Yes, Quick was bad. Missing out on Wagner was bad but only because they screwed up the other picks they got for the trade. But 2012 wasn't bad for snead's first go at this. Especially when he's looking for Fisher type players. 2013 was a waste because it seemed like they were gonna go in a different direction offensively then Fisher pulled the plug on that after 4 games so....

It was hard for snead in the Fisher era because none of his offensive picks got coached up to succeed, so they failed. His picks in the mcvay era are so much better because the coaches are better and the players have the chance to succeed.

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I don't think many of them could get coached up by even the best coaching staffs. They had some bad picks. That's what using Sparq scores as your main grading tool does. It ignores the football quotient and learning ability. I am glad Snead seems to have changed his game plan. I don't think all of the Fisher picks were just Fisher's fault. Snead had a hand in them all. I think McVay and a good group of assistants taught Snead how to better evaluate talent to build a roster that is competitive.
 
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The key thing w/ McVay & Snead is, McVay has done an excellent job detailing along with communicating to the scouts what each position needs & should looks like, and the traits needed at said position. This along w/ wanting high IQ and dudes that want to study film on THEIR OWN.
Lastly players need to have tons of starts under them too!

Fuck great measurable's and 1 year wonders peeps!
 
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Malibu said:
How about Jason Smith, Greg Robinson, Brian Quick and who could forget trading down 5 slots with Chicago to get an extra 5th rounder and we get Isiah Pead when we were always drafting Bobby Wagner and Seattle swoops in. Throw in Fendi a guy who literally only had two passes in his entire collegiate career as ASU, but he plays basketball that qualifies him for sure. No lie 2 passes and we take him in the 6th round really?!

BTW do you know why we took Saffold bc the Smith pick was such a disaster and do you know who was the next pick someone alot of us wanted - Rob Gronkowski out of ASU.
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Gronk would have left the team by Fisher's 2nd or 3rd year...so, I am happy we never got it...he would not stick it out with losers--really....Saff is awesome!

Ya, with Bobby Wagner, we have a top 10 D last year!
 
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Elmgrovegnome said:
I don't think many of them could get coached up by even the best coaching staffs. They had some bad picks. That's what using Sparq scores as your main grading tool does. It ignores the football quotient and learning ability. I am glad Snead seems to have changed his game plan. I don't think all of the Fisher picks were just Fisher's fault. Snead had a hand in them all. I think McVay and a good group of assistants taught Snead how to better evaluate talent to build a roster that is competitive.
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yeah, you're probably right. but snead was always looking for fisher type players since fisher had total control. the difference in the players selected with fisher in charge and then with mcvay in charge tells us everything we need to know about fisher's influence on the picks made.

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Malibu said:
BTW do you know why we took Saffold bc the Smith pick was such a disaster and do you know who was the next pick someone alot of us wanted - Rob Gronkowski out of ASU.
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He went to the University of Arizona. Don't confuse my alma mater with that other college.
 
kurtfaulk said:
yeah, you're probably right. but snead was always looking for fisher type players since fisher had total control. the difference in the players selected with fisher in charge and then with mcvay in charge tells us everything we need to know about fisher's influence on the picks made.

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For instance, not landing Wagner was Snead's deal. Also, despite Fisher having say, Snead still had to find the talent.

But yeah, I'm happier now. It seems that McVay prioritizes work ethic, coachability, heart. My mind of player.
 
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