The curvature of water formula is wrong....so, ya, you guessed it

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SteveBrown said:
IT may be bigger, or the water is flat....and that could mean the earth is a plain.
Some laser tests over water show that laser don't bend, and that they can go over water at 1 meter for 9 miles without out observable curature (so, missing 60' or so of curvature per the forumula)

INsane, right....?
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I wonder how someone would perform that test. Does the ocean ever get still enough to run a test like that? I would not trust a lake for a test about the Earth's curvature.
 
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The world is flat. When i walk outside it's flat. Driving, it's flat. When I lay down it's flat. The eyes don't lie!
 
SteveBrown said:
IT may be bigger, or the water is flat....and that could mean the earth is a plain.
Some laser tests over water show that laser don't bend, and that they can go over water at 1 meter for 9 miles without out observable curature (so, missing 60' or so of curvature per the forumula)

INsane, right....?
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It's very hard to comment on a test without knowing the details of a test.

I can guarantee that short of finding some doldrums (glass flat ocean with no wind) that extend for 9 miles and then doing very sensitive calibrations and THEN doing a test, I dunno how that test could possibly be done over water.

Also, think of this... IF the earth were flat, we wouldn't need satellites. We could simply host large structures with lasers and mirrors on them to send messages and even at 3 times the distance, the latency would still be significantly lower than any satellite based communication.

All things being equal, our little oblate spheroid that is a little fatter than it is tall, is basically a sphere as others have said, but it has plenty of curves. As 503 pointed, there are tides, which due to soil liquefaction also affects the height of land in some cases. I can guarantee you Florida is affected by the tides to a degree.

Anyway, without any data on the test, it's hard to address where the test went wrong or to explain how the science generated such a result.
 
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1maGoh said:
Oooh, good catch. Damn Moon. Screwing up all our good science.
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Of course the moons gravitational pull is responsible for the tidal surges, aiding life in the oceans. However it does cause it to inch away from the earth a little bit each year. (n)
 
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Karate61 said:
The world is flat. When i walk outside it's flat. Driving, it's flat. When I lay down it's flat. The eyes don't lie!
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can tell you dont run at all..every time I go for a run the last 3 miles are uphill into the wind


so no, the Earth isnt flat LOL
 
RhodyRams said:
can tell you dont run at all..every time I go for a run the last 3 miles are uphill into the wind


so no, the Earth isnt flat LOL
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Every time I run... Ah, so glad I don't have to do that crap anymore. But if I did, the first mile would also be the last mile.
 
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Mackeyser said:
It's very hard to comment on a test without knowing the details of a test.

I can guarantee that short of finding some doldrums (glass flat ocean with no wind) that extend for 9 miles and then doing very sensitive calibrations and THEN doing a test, I dunno how that test could possibly be done over water.

Also, think of this... IF the earth were flat, we wouldn't need satellites. We could simply host large structures with lasers and mirrors on them to send messages and even at 3 times the distance, the latency would still be significantly lower than any satellite based communication.

All things being equal, our little oblate spheroid that is a little fatter than it is tall, is basically a sphere as others have said, but it has plenty of curves. As 503 pointed, there are tides, which due to soil liquefaction also affects the height of land in some cases. I can guarantee you Florida is affected by the tides to a degree.

Anyway, without any data on the test, it's hard to address where the test went wrong or to explain how the science generated such a result.
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What about a long Bay or something? SF Bay is a good size. Could a test like that be run from say one of the peninsulas of the SF Bay to the farthest point in? They would just have to wait for the waves to get below 3.someirrelevantbullshitnumberihatethemetricsystemsostupidwtfscience feet tall. Or they could do the test at 6 feet instead of 1 meter to increase the chance of finding a day to do it.
 
RhodyRams said:
can tell you dont run at all..every time I go for a run the last 3 miles are uphill into the wind


so no, the Earth isnt flat LOL
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Hey! Don't make me talk about the what goes up must come down theory!
 
Mackeyser said:
It's very hard to comment on a test without knowing the details of a test.

Anyway, without any data on the test, it's hard to address where the test went wrong or to explain how the science generated such a result.
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So, watch this:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57CwzEMho_U&list=PLui025_IgSfImFUe-yC3-genurrYNd-QB&index=104&t=0s


This shows a test with "divergence" and "refraction" included in teh analysis. At 9 mils around 60 feet of curvature should occur, but you can ssee into the 'heart' of the laser, and a known scientist named Mick West says we are seeing "divergence" of the laser. But, as you will discover, we are not seeing the divergence. Finally science is occurring....the same science that all have ignored since Kepler....now we have some instruments to investigate what many have ignred.

Mick West is the subject of this analysis because he calculates the 'measurement' of the 'bugle and has a formula tha he created for it....he is a physicist I head, but maybe not ("has appeared in various media as an expert analyst and science communicator")
 
1maGoh said:
What about a long Bay or something? SF Bay is a good size. Could a test like that be run from say one of the peninsulas of the SF Bay to the farthest point in? They would just have to wait for the waves to get below 3.someirrelevantbullshitnumberihatethemetricsystemsostupidwtfscience feet tall. Or they could do the test at 6 feet instead of 1 meter to increase the chance of finding a day to do it.
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This is a test that shows some more 'science-like' approach to this subject....I found it amazing, in light of all the information we don't have on the subject of measuring curvature of the earth. Most aren't smart enough to recognize what is going on with science and "cgi" of the sattelite lie.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57CwzEMho_U&list=PLui025_IgSfImFUe-yC3-genurrYNd-QB&index=104&t=0s
 
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