Robert Kraft charged with solicitation in sex trafficking ring

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12intheBox said:
Look at Jim Irsay as an example.
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good call. Thanks for that.
Provided there is no connection to human trafficking ring, which by all accounts seems to be the case, this does seem like apples to apples. Irsay’s “crime” was certainly more egregious than what Kraft is being accused of, however the penalty imposed wasn’t in relation to the crime itself, but the NFL conduct policy.
From Goodell:
"I have stated on numerous occasions that owners, management personnel and coaches must be held to a higher standard than players. We discussed this during our meeting and you expressed your support for that view, volunteering that owners should be held to the highest standard."
 
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I went to get a massage in December at a local parlor here in town. It was a birthday gift to myself. My first ever massage.

Anyway...All I got was a friggin hug.

The lady was Japanese I think. He name was "Lisa". Very nice looking lady, she was perhaps 40'ish and in fantastic shape.

I was completely naked, not knowing the protocol. In fact, I was so naiive that once I got in the room and stripped down, I used the towell as a pillow. She giggled at that as she took the towell and covered my bare ass with it.

But at the end she sat me up and was wiping me down with a warm towell, then came in for a hug, which was nice and all, but felt awkward. Feelin kinda jipped all things considered.

I've been meaning to go back. Dont judge me mfers ....lol

I'll be asking for Lisa of course.
 
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ozarkram said:
I don't know if anyone else saw it. But on one of the major news outlets a guy was saying that this was a set up and a conspiracy against Kraft and the Pats. The guy was foaming at the mouth claiming it was all gonna come out soon. It was interesting to watch. The talking head doing the interview just kept nodding in agreement.
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A set up? Lmao
Did Kraft think he was going to a Chuck e. Cheese birthday party, only to be steered into a prostitution ring?
Thats fucking stupid
 
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Dodgersrf said:
A set up? Lmao
Did Kraft think he was going to a Chuck e. Cheese birthday party, only to be steered into a prostitution ring?
Thats freaking stupid
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Especially since they apparently have video of him on two separate occasions. The setup apparently was a strip mall massage parlor would give him sex for money, if he wanted it.
 
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dieterbrock said:
What kind of penalty applies to Kraft though?
Players can be suspended (which means nothing at this time of year) but how do you suspend an owner?
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Actually, if it's bad enough they can force him to sell. That would be worst case. They can take away draft picks from the team, fine him, prevent him from making decisions. Remember each owner is an owner only because of the other 31 teams owners. And yes, even the Packers can be disbanded.
 
ozarkram said:
I don't know if anyone else saw it. But on one of the major news outlets a guy was saying that this was a set up and a conspiracy against Kraft and the Pats. The guy was foaming at the mouth claiming it was all gonna come out soon. It was interesting to watch. The talking head doing the interview just kept nodding in agreement.
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In our town the police got a warrant and put up cameras in the massage parlors. So they have video of everyone who went in and who got what. Not sure how they got them inside but they did. You can claim "setup" all you want. But no one forced him to walk in.
 
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Raptorman said:
Actually, if it's bad enough they can force him to sell. That would be worst case. They can take away draft picks from the team, fine him, prevent him from making decisions. Remember each owner is an owner only because of the other 31 teams owners. And yes, even the Packers can be disbanded.
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I don't see disbanded. Their property and contracts are theirs alone. They can be refused any interaction with the NFL. They will still be the Packers but would have to join another league or go independent.
 
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ozarkram said:
I don't know if anyone else saw it. But on one of the major news outlets a guy was saying that this was a set up and a conspiracy against Kraft and the Pats. The guy was foaming at the mouth claiming it was all gonna come out soon. It was interesting to watch. The talking head doing the interview just kept nodding in agreement.
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The guy from BarstoolSports.com
 
coconut said:
I don't see disbanded. Their property and contracts are theirs alone. They can be refused any interaction with the NFL. They will still be the Packers but would have to join another league or go independent.
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Which would make the team worthless.
The one thing Kraft has going for him, is this is the first time an NFL owner has been busted in a prostitution ring. There really is no benchmark for punishment.
 
Dodgersrf said:
Which would make the team worthless.
The one thing Kraft has going for him, is this is the first time an NFL owner has been busted in a prostitution ring. There really is no benchmark for punishment.
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Not worthless. Probably go to the CFL.
 
Dodgersrf said:
Which would be nowhere near the 4-5 bill the team is worth now.
I just dont see that happening
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According to Forbes the Packers $2.625 Billion ranks 12th in the NFL. Cowboys rank 1st at $5 Billion.
 
IMO he went there knowing that the women wouldn't know who he was, and so it was "safe" for him to go and indulge whatever fetish or sexual activity he wanted. The fact that a few other high profile men went there makes me believe that by the way. And there was a high profile local who isn't wealthy that is caught up in this as well.

I doubt if he knew anything about sex trafficked women making up the entire staff, or anything about the owners of the multiple parlors.

But. In the public's eye this is going to be very, very bad because of how it's woven into the sex/human trafficking problem. He just invited a harsh reality into his life and has given himself a label he'll never shake to go right there alongside the cheater label.

I know a lot of you guys think that he and Goodell are tight and he is going to help out Kraft, but they had a big falling out during the Spygate shit because of the position it put the NFL into, and Goodell along with it. He felt lied to. And if you recall Goodell smashed Brady over Deflategate and the Patriots and league went to war which included Kraft railing on Goodell for the fine and lost draft pick. There is not much of a friendship there to say the least.

This is going to be interesting to watch. I can only imagine the chatter between team owners right now.

I'm hoping that the "higher profile" person is Jerry Jones.

Gotta have goals right...............
 
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LesBaker said:
IMO he went there knowing that the women wouldn't know who he was, and so it was "safe" for him to go and indulge whatever fetish or sexual activity he wanted.
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Interesting theory. Makes sense.
 
coconut said:
Interesting theory. Makes sense.
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This is just a working theory but here it is..........

I was thinking today about the guy who was a key figure in one of the race circuits, I believe it was Formula One, or that's what came to mind anyway.

It was many years ago. He went to a specific agency or brothel (or whatever) to have a really, really twisted fantasy played out. Several women dressed in Nazi outfits spanked him, along with other stuff that was over the top. Maybe enemas or whatever I don't recall all the details. It was caught on film by the way.

He went there specifically because they would do that for him. How many places would cater to that kind of thing? Some would but not very many, and on top of that would give assurances that he would not be known by any of the "actors in the play". How far would he go for that?

How far would Kraft go for whatever he wanted?

IMO there are elements of that here. He went to a very specific and hidden away place on at least two occasions, and there is a real possibility of more than that, for a reason that mattered to him. Anonymity for sure, and perhaps something kinkier, or something that would be considered unsavory enough that he had to find a safe spot for the deed.

Anyway, just a thought.
 
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Raptorman said:
If Kraft's charge's bring into the light of day the problem with sex trafficking so be it. They have him on film, twice. Here on the Treasure coast were I live they shut down several of these. Most of the women who work them are brought in from other countries with promises of good jobs. They are then forced into prostitution. While we can joke about Kraft, the situation that he got caught in is not funny. My wife turned in a guy at the Miami airport. He was verbally abusing a young women(in Russian, My wife knows just enough to know something wasn't right) who looked scared. She mentioned it to an ICE guy. She later found out the women was here in the US against he will and would have ended up in the sex trade. It's a very big problem in the US that goes under reported by MSM.


That being said........... With all his money, one would think Kraft would have been able to afford to "order in".
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Your wife is a hero
 
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