Returning players on offense; could there be more there than we give credit?

[thirteen28]

Geezus t!ts, re-reading my last post makes me realize I need an editor ...

 

[thirteen28]

In a nutshell....under Fisher the defense got better while the offense got worse....until the team finally quit.

The defense really seemed to quit after the Miami game, when Fisher hung them out to dry with a 10 point lead. They had played good most weeks up to that time, after that game they play that well in any game for the rest of the season.

 

[jrry32]

I'm too chicken to throw this idea out in a new thread, I'll try it here.

How about trying GRob at center? He's got the athleticism to be a C. Gets him away from the spotlight and flag tossing officials.

Just a thought.

I don't think he has the football IQ to play there. As move further inside, you have to be more intelligent and able to process things more quickly.

 

[dieterbrock]

The defense really seemed to quit after the Miami game, when Fisher hung them out to dry with a 10 point lead. They had played good most weeks up to that time, after that game they play that well in any game for the rest of the season.

I feel like they quit during the Miami game.... Agree with the rest. IIRC, the week before, didn't Fisher give Keenum a game ball in the atrocious win over the Jets? He at least publicly applauded Case effort, which must have been an entire slap in the face to the defense. Then the Miami game and the stall ball, eek that just sucked

 

[thirteen28]

I feel like they quit during the Miami game.... Agree with the rest. IIRC, the week before, didn't Fisher give Keenum a game ball in the atrocious win over the Jets? He at least publicly applauded Case effort, which must have been an entire slap in the face to the defense. Then the Miami game and the stall ball, eek that just sucked

Yeah, "during" is probably a more accurate assessment. Definitely another slap in the face of the defense by Fisher.

In different ways he disrespected both sides of the ball. Small wonder they finally quit on him.

 

[Ramlock]

Fisher has never had good offenses with the Rams. But they weren't as terrible until last season. I'm not sure what happened. They went from bad to terrible.

I gotta think that Fisher was steadfast in his belief than old school smash mouth running would win and defenses knew that. All they had to do was stack the box and take Gurley out of the equation. The receivers weren't good enough to separate and the line wasn't good enough to protect.

Just a bad combination of things. My hope is that the new system alone will keep defenses honest. We still need more at receiver and on the line though.

I was really disappointed that it didn't work out with Fisher....

I think I have a lot more respect for him than the average Ram fan.

But I have moved on to the McVay train.

Here we go!

 

[bubbaramfan]

I was at that game. D pitched a shutout until the last 5 min of the game, when they played soft, 10 yds off the recievers. I couldn't believe the difference in play. No pressure from the DL,, Tannenhiill all of a sudden couldn't miss. I said it after the fin won, "the D gave up."

 

[Snaz]

I still think the move affected things a lot more than people talk about, it was a factor.

4-1 disputes that.

 

[Snaz]

This might be the single biggest X factor on defense. If Quinn continues to slide we're going to have to seriously address the pass rush position. If he gets back to 100% this defense will wreck crap for QB's.

Donald and a Healthy Quinn scares Offensive Coordinators.

 

[blackbart]

4-1 disputes that.[/QUOTE/]

4-12 confirms it

 

[Snaz]

Logic dictates if the move was an issue, it would show up sooner than later. By the time the Rams were 4-1 into the season, the move would be a non-issue.... something other than the move is the cause of the 4-12

 

[RamBall]

4-1 disputes that.

They started 3-1 and lost 4 games before the 3 FG game against the jets where Keenum got the game ball,followed by 7 more losses. Regardless the move to LA had less to do with the Rams problems than the lack of a move at the OC position.