Petition to Replace Vinovitch with a Different Ref

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So did we get a Ref change, or all for naught?
 
UKram said:
I’ve said it before it’s not just the calls vinovitch and crew will make tonight it’ll be about what they don’t call as well
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Not giving the first down to Hekker in the first game is as bad as it gets imo. At the very least we have put pressure on Vinovich and his crew to call a fair game because it's gone public about the team's struggles against his refereeing.
 
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LoyalRam said:
So did we get a Ref change, or all for naught?
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Seriously? The next time I see one of these petitions actually work will be the first. Might as well be yelling at the sky.

If anything, after looking at his stats, Vinovich seems like the perfect playoff game ref. A guy who swallows his whistle for the most part unless it's something blatantly obvious. That's what you want at this point in the season. A guy who will let the players decide the game on the field.
 
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KDS73 said:
Seriously? The next time I see one of these petitions actually work will be the first. Might as well be yelling at the sky.

If anything, after looking at his stats, Vinovich seems like the perfect playoff game ref. A guy who swallows his whistle for the most part unless it's something blatantly obvious. That's what you want at this point in the season. A guy who will let the players decide the game on the field.
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No, not seriously
 
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KDS73 said:
Seriously? The next time I see one of these petitions actually work will be the first. Might as well be yelling at the sky.

If anything, after looking at his stats, Vinovich seems like the perfect playoff game ref. A guy who swallows his whistle for the most part unless it's something blatantly obvious. That's what you want at this point in the season. A guy who will let the players decide the game on the field.
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I would prefer a ref that can spot the ball.
 
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KDS73 said:
Seriously? The next time I see one of these petitions actually work will be the first. Might as well be yelling at the sky.

If anything, after looking at his stats, Vinovich seems like the perfect playoff game ref. A guy who swallows his whistle for the most part unless it's something blatantly obvious. That's what you want at this point in the season. A guy who will let the players decide the game on the field.
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I like to see teams play by the rules and have a more faith that my team will than their opponent. So refs that swallow their whistle seems like a disadvantage to me.

Refs are there to make sure the game is fair. Letting players violate the rules of the opposite of that. Therefore, Vbitch seems like a terrible ref for the postseason, regular season, preseason, and off season.
 
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1maGoh said:
I like to see teams play by the rules and have a more faith that my team will than their opponent. So refs that swallow their whistle seems like a disadvantage to me.

Refs are there to make sure the game is fair. Letting players violate the rules of the opposite of that. Therefore, Vbitch seems like a terrible ref for the postseason, regular season, preseason, and off season.
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If you're the better team, you want it to be decided by the players, not by the refs.

Have some of you actually looked at his stats, or are you just following the conspiracy theory crowd? Road teams have won 50% of the games he has reffed this year. That's about as fair as you can get.
 
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Barrison said:
Not giving the first down to Hekker in the first game is as bad as it gets imo. At the very least we have put pressure on Vinovich and his crew to call a fair game because it's gone public about the team's struggles against his refereeing.
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Totally disagree Johnny Hejjer didn’t get the first down & replay showed that .
 
So Ram said:
Totally disagree Johnny Hejjer didn’t get the first down & replay showed that .
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1maGoh said:
I like to see teams play by the rules and have a more faith that my team will than their opponent. So refs that swallow their whistle seems like a disadvantage to me.

Refs are there to make sure the game is fair. Letting players violate the rules of the opposite of that. Therefore, Vbitch seems like a terrible ref for the postseason, regular season, preseason, and off season.
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Yeah, I don't like any sport where the rules change in the post season, such as basketball. It should be exactly the same as the regular season. Swallowing their whistles just sounds like Donald will be held that much more....
 
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KDS73 said:
If you're the better team, you want it to be decided by the players, not by the refs.

Have some of you actually looked at his stats, or are you just following the conspiracy theory crowd? Road teams have won 50% of the games he has reffed this year. That's about as fair as you can get.
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Yet surprisingly we are 0-8 since 2012
 
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KDS73 said:
Seriously? The next time I see one of these petitions actually work will be the first. Might as well be yelling at the sky.

If anything, after looking at his stats, Vinovich seems like the perfect playoff game ref. A guy who swallows his whistle for the most part unless it's something blatantly obvious. That's what you want at this point in the season. A guy who will let the players decide the game on the field.
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One of the nine calls in the first Saints game was a very obvious push off of Peters by Thomas. It was blatant. A ref was right in front of them but no flag.

That kind of thing can hurt or help a team as much as a bad call.

Another example is allowing Olinemen to mug Aaron Donald. He easily would have broke the sack record if Olinemen felt that they couldn’t get away with wrapping their arms around his neck.
 
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KDS73 said:
If you're the better team, you want it to be decided by the players, not by the refs.

Have some of you actually looked at his stats, or are you just following the conspiracy theory crowd? Road teams have won 50% of the games he has reffed this year. That's about as fair as you can get.
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Were any of those teams the Rams?

I also want to see the game decided by the players, not the refs. But if the players violate the rules and the refs do nothing, then the refs are deciding the game by allowing that to happen.

Let's say the Saints hit Goff late in almost every passing play, driving him into the ground with their full body weight. Goff gets injured on one of these bogus please, but no glad it's ever called. Who decided the game there? The refs. They could have stopped it earlier, but chose not to.

Or let's say their guard false starts a lot in an attempt to get ahead of Donald and uses that advantage to neutralize him (or slow him down significantly more than normal). The refs let it go. Who's helping decide the game there? The refs, because they would be allowing illegal activities that help one team over the other.

The game should be played fairly. The refs are there to ensure that happens. Otherwise, they ARE deciding the game by allowing penalties to happen without being called.
 
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So Ram said:
Totally disagree Johnny Hejjer didn’t get the first down & replay showed that .
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It depends on the angle.

From one it looks like he got it. From another it looks like he was short.

And I think that's why it wasn't changed by the replay.

IMO he got it but they spotted it where his knee went down not where he was stretching his arm out with the ball.

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LesBaker said:
It depends on the angle.

From one it looks like he got it. From another it looks like he was short.

And I think that's why it wasn't changed by the replay.

IMO he got it but they spotted it where his knee went down not where he was stretching his arm out with the ball.

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Hekk got this..
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