Pay Him (Goff) Now or Pay Him Later?

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Either way, I certainly think the Rams are going to be paying Jared Goff a lot of money! And, as much as I like and respect Eric Dickerson, I personally think the longer the Rams put off extending Goff’s contract the more expensive (A LOT more expensive!) it is going to be for the Rams! And, IF, it is true that Dickerson thinks Goff still has a lot more to prove before the Rams should extend his contract I have to say that I think that is going to be a HUGE mistake! I certainly don’t know the Rams Financial/Cap situation and maybe they just don’t have the money to extend at this time but I certainly hope they are not extending because they think Goff has more to prove! I think he is an outstanding QB and I hope he remains a Ram for the next 15 or more seasons!!! I hope the Rams extend Goff ASAP!!!
 
I think you are right. We should definitely sign him before Dallas re-ups Dak. I think we all would agree that Goff is the better QB over Dak, let Goff reset the market. Crappy first year due to the middle school offense. He has progressed very well over the next two seasons. Yes, he's had a couple of flops (Atl and NE) in playoff situations, but he balled against NO in a very hostile environment. I feel he's only going to get better.
 
I don't recall ever seeing a QB make the throws he did two years ago against the Vikings at the coliseum. That one performance sealed the deal with me.

Pay up, Rams.

man, you are getting old. that was last season.

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I think you are right. We should definitely sign him before Dallas re-ups Dak. I think we all would agree that Goff is the better QB over Dak, let Goff reset the market. Crappy first year due to the middle school offense. He has progressed very well over the next two seasons. Yes, he's had a couple of flops (Atl and NE) in playoff situations, but he balled against NO in a very hostile environment. I feel he's only going to get better.

i thought he was pretty good against the falcons. sure he started off slow but man he made some clutch throws as the game progressed. let down by higbee and watkins.

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The Rams would be wise to sign Goff now but there is a small obstacle.

Goff and his agent know he could make a lot more if he waits it out.

If the Rams don’t give him 40m a year then you can bet your butt some other team will.

Jared needs to decide if he wants Super Bowls under Mcvay or better Money elsewhere.
 
As soon as possible. It shouldn't affect this years contract, but a long term deal may just reduce his 2020 hit by a couple mil. Try to sign him for 8 years so towards the end of his contract he might just be considered inexpensive again, at least by todays growth standards.
 
For $40 million a year that QB should be able to carry the offense. Goff isn't there yet. Super Bowl was proof enough. With a salary cap where is the money to pay for his O line? Winning yields crappier draft position and the salary cap forces players to leave to get paid which is the way most teams get recycled into the has beens. How the Patriots have consistently defied both is amazing. Snead will have to really up his game to make up talent lost at a decent price. I sure hope the contract the Rams offer and Goff signs is heavy on performance incentives.
 
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Goff is the Rams franchise QB for the forseable future. He is not elite (yet) but that could change this year. So I think it would be wise to extend him for 4-5 years ASAP before his stock skyrockets.
 
I remember when people used to get crazy about the 20 mil a year QB! Geesh! Look at that 40 mil a year now?! Lol

I’m kinda split tbh. I’d love to sign him now to watch Adam get that much more but also could see being cautious and wait another season.

Honestly Demoff and Snead know what the hell they are doing and I stress the ‘FOR YEARS’ part. I’m comfortable with what they decide is best for our team.
 
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I would like to sign him as soon as possible to save money on a potential deal... but I don't know if there's ultimately any savings to be had in the grand scheme of things. Sign him today, you'll need to extend him again in another 3 or 4 years. Sign him a year from now, and you'll pay more than you would today, but your next payment point will be that much further down the road. While anything can happen, if he stays with the franchise, he's going to have at least 3 contracts with the Rams. Where those contracts fall in the timeline may not be so important. (Or the significance is currently impossible to know.)

It's also commonplace now that just because you sign a guy to a good deal doesn't mean he'll play at that salary for the duration of his contract. Guys like AD, Julio, recognize they're worth more than they're getting paid, and the smart thing for them is to sit out and protect their bodies until those numbers get fixed. Imagine they signed Jared for 6 years 28 million per. By the second year, I'd expect to hear rumblings that he wanted to renegotiate the deal, and he would be right for it.

Goff is a top ten QB at 24. I see no reason to have doubts about him. He's outplayed mahomes and drew brees when he's had to. He deserves the top-of-the-market rate for a top shelf QB.
 
They don't have the money to pay him now. They are over the cap by $14M now.

They will have the cap space next year by simply not extending Whitworth, Peters and Talib. That gives them the cap to extend both Goff and Fowler.
 
They don't have the money to pay him now. They are over the cap by $14M now.

They are NOT over the cap now. By league rules that is not allowed.

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/los-angeles-rams/ shows them with over $6 million in space. What is your source that shows them over $14 million over what the league and the CBA allows? Now, I agree that it is undesirable to give him a big cap hit raise right now, especially since they gave him a $22 million + contract for next year already. But the Rams are NOT in violation of the CBA, and will not be either.
 
Their total player contract expenditures NOW is $203,960,993 but that includes all the players in camp. Their adjusted at the start of the season will be around $4.8M under the cap. But that's assuming a lot of things. But taken at face value lets say they extended Jared to $33M/yr. That would increase his cap hit from $8.8M this year to that amount. So where is the cap space going to come from? They would need to clear at least $20M to pay for the increase just to break even on the cap.

I laid it out in other threads. Basically by not resigning Whitworth, Talib and Peters they can move that cap money to extend both Goff and Fowler to market level contracts and have no real impact on cap space which will increase next year to allow them to extend other players as well.

I'm not saying that absolutely that is how it will work. But rather how it could work next year with 3 players in contract years not being extended. It's also showing why they aren't talking extension for Fowler or Goff this year.
 
Their total player contract expenditures NOW is $203,960,993 but that includes all the players in camp. Their adjusted at the start of the season will be around $4.8M under the cap. But that's assuming a lot of things. But taken at face value lets say they extended Jared to $33M/yr. That would increase his cap hit from $8.8M this year to that amount. So where is the cap space going to come from? They would need to clear at least $20M to pay for the increase just to break even on the cap.

I laid it out in other threads. Basically by not resigning Whitworth, Talib and Peters they can move that cap money to extend both Goff and Fowler to market level contracts and have no real impact on cap space which will increase next year to allow them to extend other players as well.

I'm not saying that absolutely that is how it will work. But rather how it could work next year with 3 players in contract years not being extended. It's also showing why they aren't talking extension for Fowler or Goff this year.

They're not giving Goff $33 million this season. You apparently are the only person in the universe who thinks that's possible.

Next year his cap hit is over $22 million. He is signed for that. They MIGHT use some of their $50 million in cap space next year to give him a raise over that for an extension - not likely, but it's possible. But it's not going to be a $25 million additional in cap hit, since his cap hit for next season is already over $22 million.

Whitworth is a non-issue. He nearly retired after last season, and the Rams drafted several OT replacements. IF he comes back, it is at a pay cut, not the same salary, and certainly not a pay raise.

No poster here believes that the Rams will try to sign both Peters and Talib. Long was drafted as a replacement for one of them. Peters is almost certainly going to price himself out of the Rams' reach. Talib might be back, if he plays well and is affordable.

Now, before any additional signings, the Rams have nearly $50 million in estimated cap space for 2020. That's AFTER Goff's pay raise for next year to over $22 million. So if they sign him long term, that will eat up a few million of that. Signing Talib or another FA CB will eat up some of that. Then there will be some space used up signing players the Rams feel they need, who likely can't be predicted yet. They won't have space for everybody they might want, but they will fill holes with free agents while drafting others to fill more holes, and promoting players from within to fill other holes.
 
Later..Who are we going to cut for upping his pay now?
 
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They're not giving Goff $33 million this season. You apparently are the only person in the universe who thinks that's possible.

Seems plausible to me. Unless you're saying there's no way an extension would push his salary this year to $33-million. Which, I honestly don't know how that would work.

But I would expect his extension to have an avg. in the 30s, at this point. Nice if they could get him cheaper but believing they can is optimistic, imo.