Non-highlight #1: "The overthrow"

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I'll probably put 3 or 4 of these up over the next few days. The all-22 isn't out yet, so here's game footage of the first pass for which Keenum was blamed. To be fair, though, a lot of people rewound this after it happened and came to the same conclusion.

Britt ran this route half-assed because (per Fisher) he didn't think he was the primary.
Hey, guess what, you might become the primary. So run the route.
Britt was clearly pissed at himself after this too.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moaPYMoPugw

 

[RamBall]

I thought it looked like Britt gave up to early when it happened. The troubling part of it is why would he not expect the ball to come his way he was clearly open, was the play supposed to go to Tavon with Britt as the decoy or clearout guy?

 

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was the play supposed to go to Tavon with Britt as the decoy or clearout guy?

We'll never know. But Fisher said Britt gave up on the post (and he did) because he wasn't the primary read.
I'm not sure why that would matter. Even if you think the ball's not coming your way, run the route like it is anyway.
Can't blame Keenum on that one, because how would he know Britt wouldn't be running at top speed the whole time?

 

[12intheBox]

Way too much of that in this league.

Not just WR routes - downfield blocks too. Guys assume the play isn't coming their way and they half ass it. This is the pros. Coaches need to make those efforts uncomfortable on film day - whether or not they affect the play.

 

[RamFan503]

Britt was clearly pissed at himself for not continuing the route until it was too late. That was clearly not on Keenum. I still think Keenum did enough to drop down the food chain and give Goff the starting job but I guess we'll see.

 

[CGI_Ram]

I've watched it a couple of times. Still looks like it was overthrown to me?

 

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I've watched it a couple of times. Still looks like it was overthrown to me?

Yes, but why?

 

[CGI_Ram]

Yes, but why?

Even if Britt is running all out the whole time, I'm not sure he gets that one.

Obviously it's difficult to judge the speed of Britt and the ball if an intersect was possible... but to my eyes it looks overthrown either way.

 

[Ballhawk]

Case threw it perfectly, if Britt hadn't taken the play off it would have been a TD.
Too bad we don't have anyone that can coach this out of our players.:giveup:

 

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Even if Britt is running all out the whole time, I'm not sure he gets that one.

Oh I'm sure he would have. He was only a step late.
It was the first half of the route that bothers me. The second half is twice as fast as the first.

 

[CGI_Ram]

Oh I'm sure he would have. He was only a step late.
It was the first half of the route that bothers me. The second half is twice as fast as the first.

Okay. Let me look one more time.

 

[OldSchool]

Lets also not forget how many times we've seen Keenum go to his primary read, even force it there, with a WR running wide open deep. I'm not excusing Britt but this is something that has happened multiple times.

 

[CGI_Ram]

Oh I'm sure he would have. He was only a step late.
It was the first half of the route that bothers me. The second half is twice as fast as the first.

I am still not sure. Not trying to be argumentative, because it's probably impossible to know for sure either way...

But, at this point in the route Keenum has the opportunity to adjust to Britt's location in the route... what's not pictured is Keenum takes another step up before releasing the pass. I still think he overthrew him.

 

[RamFan503]

Even if Britt is running all out the whole time, I'm not sure he gets that one.

Obviously it's difficult to judge the speed of Britt and the ball if an intersect was possible... but to my eyes it looks overthrown either way.

Looked to be only about 5 or 6 feet past him. No hesitation = catchable ball.

View: https://youtu.be/kD-AXgYO0lo

 

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But, at this point in the route Keenum has the opportunity to adjust to Britt's location in the route... what's not pictured is Keenum takes another step up before releasing the pass. I still think he overthrew him.

That's the perfect picture to use. See the two defenders? THAT is the very moment both of them need to know that the opportunity is a deep post. AND - Britt is running a post anyway - not an out, and he's not sitting down in the zone. And when you run a post, the route is run at full-speed (he didn't). It could also be a sight adjustment the two of them didn't recognize. Sometimes that's the QB's fault, other times it's the receiver's. I'm leaning toward that being Britt's fault - not only because of the way he ran the route, but also because Fisher said, specifically, "Kenny quit on the post."

 

[Legatron4]

My question is, why does Keenum have to air out all his deep passes? If he just throws a rope straight to him it's a touchdown regardless.

 

[CGI_Ram]

Looked to be only about 5 or 6 feet past him. No hesitation = catchable ball.

View: https://youtu.be/kD-AXgYO0lo

Had to give you a disagree. Take it.

 

[kurtfaulk]

Case threw it perfectly, if Britt hadn't taken the play off it would have been a TD.
Too bad we don't have anyone that can coach this out of our players.:giveup:

Damn straight. It's a coaching thing, always has been. That's how you end looking at five straight losing seasons.

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[RamFan503]

Had to give you a disagree. Take it.

Just giving you shit. Still I think Britt makes that catch if he runs the route like he thought it might come to him. I think Britt and the sideline appear to agree.

 

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My question is, why does Keenum have to air out all his deep passes? If he just throws a rope straight to him it's a touchdown regardless.

If Britt had run that route full speed, it would have floated right into his hands and he's in the endzone 3 seconds later.
I personally don't care if he doesn't throw ropes. Peyton Manning never threw any ball with that kind of velocity. He just knew where it had to be.

*obligatory disclaimer: I don't think Keenum is Peyton Manning.