No one was satisfied with how that punt turned out

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Ram Quixote

Ram Quixote

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Not the Rams -- bogus, made-up penalty

Not the Chargers -- McCoy was upset over the spot of the foul.

What does it take to achieve consistency with the zebras?
 
Games are hard enough as it is without having to play against the Ref's too!!
 
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Ram Quixote said:
Not the Rams -- bogus, made-up penalty

Not the Chargers -- McCoy was upset over the spot of the foul.

What does it take to achieve consistency with the zebras?
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This can be a great debate and you ask a very good question.

It starts with the refs union and it ends there too. They have to change their model and completely overhaul how they evaluate, grade and work within the system.

They cannot continue to employ part time staff, it clearly isn't working. They have to allow teams to ask for reviews2-3 times a game. They have to have a "bench" to bring guys up from and demote guys down to.
 
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I honestly think these officials need to be on a short hook. Suspensions and fines.
 
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El Juggernauto said:
I honestly think these officials need to be on a short hook. Suspensions and fines.
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They need to be demoted based on a concrete grading system, and pulled from being able to call games and lose that game check for a certain amount of time based on the number of fuck ups.
 
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Honestly so tired of the penalties. I don't know what has happened to the NFL. Every play I am looking for a flag. Seriously. We should not have to worry about a BS flag every play. Makes it worse when you see a blatant foul not called, i.e. Quinn getting held.
 
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bskrilla said:
Idk about fines but they should review calls during the week and remove officials who have poor rates of good calls.
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The problem with that is we have already seen what happens with refs who aren't NFL ready when the league had to deal with replacement refs for a few weeks.


Make them full time NFL employees and discipline them when they perform below league standards
 
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blackbart said:
Maybe it takes making them league employees instead of part time half assed scared of Goddell lackeys
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God bless you blackbart!
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Forget about fines. If a Ref keeps making bad calls it's time to say goodbye this isn't the job for you.

I'm with Leslie. They need a bench or a farm team or something to pull from.
 
RhodyRams said:
The problem with that is we have already seen what happens with refs who aren't NFL ready when the league had to deal with replacement refs for a few weeks.


Make them full time NFL employees and discipline them when they perform below league standards
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I don't know man. I think it's debatable that those guys were actually an upgrade.
 
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Give the coaches the ability to throw a red flag on ANY play/infraction. Start there because the NFL isn't going to change anything if it's going to cost more money(making refs full timers).
 
I don't know how they are currently graded but there have to be both non-calls as well as bad calls that come in to the equation when they are graded. Obviously different referees key on different areas to watch during any given play so they are "playing" different positions and moving one to a new position would have a learning curve. Do the refs other than the crew chief move around week to week?
 
How 'bout an extra zebra or two in the sky. Some of these deliberations already take a while, why not have somebody stuffed in a booth upstairs that can say, "Hey, pick up that flag," every once-in-a-while?
 
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Pancake said:
I don't know man. I think it's debatable that those guys were actually an upgrade.
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There was an article about the replacements that proved they weren't any worse, and were actually about the same.

There were a couple of missed/bad calls that got blown up by the media that put significant pressure on the NFL to get a deal done with the refs union. Fueled by the SEA touchdown pass or whatever it was that was all over the press. But that happens several times a year.

Hindsight......says mistake.
 
Mojo Ram said:
Start there because the NFL isn't going to change anything if it's going to cost more money
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You know, I've heard that argument. If the part-time refs are making 200k per season, I don't think that needs to change at all. Put the bench warmers on retainer, say, for 50k. If consistency is a priority for the NFL, some of these bench warmers will be as good or better than some of the existing refs.

But I'm not so sure that the NFL cares. Another reason why I'd advocate separating the refs from NFL control. There is a clear conflict of interest with how the NFL prefers games to be called, and how the rules are meant to be called.
 
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The NFL as a 9 Billion dollar industry is full of cheapskates. They overpay draft choices and line up to give their money to bad UFAs, name then treat their cheerleaders like indentured servants. While their refs get paid well, making then full time employees would undoubtedly cost more money in benefits. Every fan can see the league needs a new plan for their referrees (training, discipline, consistency, etc.)
 
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Ram Quixote said:
You know, I've heard that argument. If the part-time refs are making 200k per season, I don't think that needs to change at all. Put the bench warmers on retainer, say, for 50k. If consistency is a priority for the NFL, some of these bench warmers will be as good or better than some of the existing refs.

But I'm not so sure that the NFL cares. Another reason why I'd advocate separating the refs from NFL control. There is a clear conflict of interest with how the NFL prefers games to be called, and how the rules are meant to be called.
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The refs are already separate from NFL control. IMO the NFL needs to have more oversight regarding the refs rather than giving it all to the lame ass union like they did.
 
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