Matthew Stafford Contract Status

[Ellard80]

One thing that doesn't make sense to me is why the Raiders would want to shell out much money or give Stafford multiple years?

It's not like their roster is close to winning - doesn't make any sense.

 

[Akrasian]

They have a bunch of cap space, which helps - but probably not as much as they think

 

[PhillyRam]

Yeah if he didn't get enough of Goff filling his pants with shit when the rush was there then he'll get a nice run of that with Ewers.

Though in all seriousness I have to be fair with Ewers in that I think Golden could have been more in a better system and coach so maybe that is true with Ewers as well. For me personally though, I don't like QBs who look scared in the pocket. And I'll be surprised if McVay does.

That's why I like Dart... he has that swagger of a franchise QB. Looks fearless, takes on tacklers, flings it all over the field, looks like he wants to be the guy. And I get it that he came from a system where he didn't have to think much in terms of reading a D, going through progressions, manipulating a safety, etc...

However, if he is a smart kid, (maybe he is an idiot, I dunno) and he is only 21, I have to think McVay can develop him into a quality QB.

Would love to see him sit behind Stafford and learn for a year or two.


View: https://youtu.be/kZr6vcbHuFU?si=xmcfEjkcGr3uocRJ

 

[WestCoastRam]

it's a good interview... however, in a negotiation like this neither side can really let anyone know what's actually going on.

If the rams really are like we have to pay these guys next year we we wont pay you anymore.

I think they are fucking up.

We can sign some of these new guys next year to extensions, but we have no viable QB option without stafford. So these 3 year contracts or whatever will be a total waste anyway, because we will be like most teams going from one shitty QB situation to another.

The new contracts will run their course and nothing was gained.

I mean, you can negotiate any way you want but I get what you're saying that you don't think it was the right strategy.

If this is truly what is happening, I think it's a totally valid strategy to help them not move off their number and not end up in a situation where they pay more than they want to in a harried back and forth. It also accomplishes McVay's goal of being transparent with his QB.

Right or wrong, I think McVay feels like he can solve the QB issue with resources if Stafford leaves. Of course, what's that timeline look like (it's defintely not getting solved next year). But I think that's the hubris Jourdan talks about in other interviews.

 

[Merlin]

The hyperbolic hot take would probably be something like: The Rams are fighting for relevancy. Trading Stafford is surrendering to obscurity.

Fuck that take. A team that just won a title is hardly fighting for relevancy. We are relevant every year, and have been on a relevant run for almost a decade with McVay with more to come.

I think Ewers will go to Seattle. If Matt goes to the Raiders he can write off another ring. It just won't happen with the Raiders.

I expect Seattle to have a very fine defense in the coming years with McDonald at the helm. He is an innovator whose uncoupling of defensive calls wrt the different parts of the defense is going to flood through the NFL. And a top defense is a great match for a run heavy offense that can hit teams over the top. So to my eye at least Milroe is a fine fit for them.

That's why I like Dart... he has that swagger of a franchise QB. Looks fearless, takes on tacklers, flings it all over the field, looks like he wants to be the guy. And I get it that he came from a system where he didn't have to think much in terms of reading a D, going through progressions, manipulating a safety, etc...

However, if he is a smart kid, (maybe he is an idiot, I dunno) and he is only 21, I have to think McVay can develop him into a quality QB.


View: https://youtu.be/kZr6vcbHuFU?si=xmcfEjkcGr3uocRJ

Precisely correct in my opinion. Way I look at it is the hardest shit to teach a QB is the courage and quick thinking under duress. I'm willing to bet on McVay being able to get his x and o knowhow where it needs to be if he's the pick.

 

[RhodyRams]

Curious, whats the over/under on posters starting a new thread when the solution is determined? 3?

it will definitely be under the amount of "I told ya so" posts

 

[jrry32]

Worth a listen, IMO. Nothing earth-shatteringly new, but a lot of nuance and context. Jourdan is awesome, so smart and well-spoken and does her homework.

For me, only thing slightly "new" from this interview: IF (IF!!!) Stafford were to leave, the only 2 "bridge" QB's mentioned were Jimmy G and Rodgers. Jourdan gives a lot of detail about McSnead's opinions of both guys. Notable by omission: no discussion of any other bridge QB, whether it's Darnold, Geno, Kirk, Wilson, Fields, or any of the other options.

Jourdan makes it clear that the bridge QB would be for a one-year rental in 2025. They decline to speculate about who they might go after to be the next "franchise QB" in 2026 and beyond.

Yeah, I think it's pretty clear at this point that if Stafford goes, it'll be Rodgers or Jimmy. And we'll need a QB behind either who has ability because Rodgers is old and Jimmy has had a lot of durability issues.

 

[Merlin]

I do think if we keep Stafford there should be a celebration thread.

 

[OldSchool]

One thing that doesn't make sense to me is why the Raiders would want to shell out much money or give Stafford multiple years?

It's not like their roster is close to winning - doesn't make any sense.

Desperate for relevance.

Stafford goes there and no matter what else they do they're still a 4th place team in their division IMO.

 

[TSFH Fan]

Fuck that take. A team that just won a title is hardly fighting for relevancy. We are relevant every year, and have been on a relevant run for almost a decade with McVay with more to come.

LA Kings, LA Galaxy, LA Rams -- all former champions.
Embrace irrelevancy
Destiny is destiny

Edit: #QuestFor200

 

[Ellard80]

Desperate for relevance.

Stafford goes there and no matter what else they do they're still a 4th place team in their division IMO.

right... its a bad plan.

 

[OldSchool]

right... its a bad plan.

Agreed they should sit at 6 and build a team I'd say even trade back build up more of a team and go all in on a QB in the next draft. They're blowing it imo.

 

[Merlin]

Stafford goes there and no matter what else they do they're still a 4th place team in their division IMO.

Yeah that division is going to be rough next year man. I think the Chiefs are about to have a Super Bowl hangover, but with Reid and Mahomes they're tough to count out. Harbaugh in year two with a QB. Asshole Face in year three with an up and coming QB. That's six tough games.

 

[Merlin]

LA Kings, LA Galaxy, LA Rams -- all former champions.
Embrace irrelevancy
Destiny is destiny

Edit: #QuestFor200

Rams are not even remotely close to irrelevant.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

View: https://youtu.be/6p4gT8Ukyrk?t=1063&si=KkE27QQG6JBUkZuU


Starts at 17:45. Good take by a Niners guy.

I agree with this guy. Why would Stafford put the money ahead of winning and being happy where he is? He’s made $360 million already. When is it enough? I’m a bit disappointed that money seems to be more important than success. I didn’t think that was his M.O.

One thing that doesn't make sense to me is why the Raiders would want to shell out much money or give Stafford multiple years?

It's not like their roster is close to winning - doesn't make any sense.

Teams convince themselves that they are good enough. These are very confident men. Plus from an ownership standpoint it breathes life into the fan base.

That's why I like Dart... he has that swagger of a franchise QB. Looks fearless, takes on tacklers, flings it all over the field, looks like he wants to be the guy. And I get it that he came from a system where he didn't have to think much in terms of reading a D, going through progressions, manipulating a safety, etc...

However, if he is a smart kid, (maybe he is an idiot, I dunno) and he is only 21, I have to think McVay can develop him into a quality QB.

Would love to see him sit behind Stafford and learn for a year or two.


View: https://youtu.be/kZr6vcbHuFU?si=xmcfEjkcGr3uocRJ

I can’t get excited about Dart. I don’t think he’s a fit. He doesn’t throw receivers open consistently and doesn’t like to throw until he sees an open receiver. I watch that with Drew Allar at PSU and it drives me crazy.

 

[DzRams]

Not enough. If they are only getting a 2nd or a 3rd in 2025. ( Not enough) then the conditional pick should be a number 1 in 2026. Anything less is not an option.

Agreed because usually future picks are discounted a round.

 

[TSFH Fan]

View: https://x.com/nfl_talk_sports/status/1895245934168285535?s=46&t=WEmuN_hfFyUykYusVuf0Tw

Well, here's what Vinny says:

NFL sources indicate the Raiders and his camp have found common ground on what a potential new contract could look like.

Raiders absolved of wrongdoing in pursuit of Matthew Stafford

Tom Brady’s recent meeting with Los Angeles Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford did not violate tampering rules, the NFL told the Las Vegas Review-Journal on Thursday.

www.reviewjournal.com

 

[Ellard80]

Well, here's what Vinny says:

Raiders absolved of wrongdoing in pursuit of Matthew Stafford

Tom Brady’s recent meeting with Los Angeles Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford did not violate tampering rules, the NFL told the Las Vegas Review-Journal on Thursday.

www.reviewjournal.com

man I sure hope he is wrong.

 

[Memphis Ram]

I'm not worried about that. I trust McVay to make the right call.

I doubt we get pick #6, but we better get first round value. IMO, a couple examples of fair deals are:
Option #1
Pick #37
2026 conditional 3rd round pick (becomes a 2nd if Stafford plays 75% of snaps and a 1st if Stafford plays 75% of snaps and the Raiders make the playoffs)

Option #2
Pick #68
2026 conditional 2nd round pick (becomes a 1st if Stafford plays 75% of snaps)

I'm guessing their 2025 2nd & 5th rounders and a 2026 2nd rounder.

 

[Ellard80]

Well, here's what Vinny says:

Raiders absolved of wrongdoing in pursuit of Matthew Stafford

Tom Brady’s recent meeting with Los Angeles Rams quarterback Matthew Stafford did not violate tampering rules, the NFL told the Las Vegas Review-Journal on Thursday.

www.reviewjournal.com

So the raiders and stafford came to "a common ground" on a contract.

Haven't heard that one anywhere else - so either this dude has elite sources or that's some BS.