Kyren Williams future discussion

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Ellard80 said:
Yeah this is us trying to explain to you something as clear as day everyone saw.
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Yes its quite clear that folks are more interested in tearing the guy down then for recognizing his value to the team. I feel like Im on a 49ers site defending Kyren
Wasnt a fumble but it sure was a touchdown, and thank god we have you KW23!!
 
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OldSchool said:
Nothing passive aggressive and no attacks. Just laughing at the lengths some are going to in defending and attacking a player.
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It's funny that you talk about word play here then use the word "attacking" a player. That is such a manipulative term people use to drive narratives.

Kyren is great in a lot of ways, and I want to keep him. But an obvious reality is that he has ball security issues. He does many things well. I think he is the best short yardage back in the NFL. However, the ball coming loose is an issue we have all witnessed with our own eyes.

That's just a statement of a measurable fact, nothing attacking about it.
 
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dieterbrock said:
Yes its quite clear that folks are more interested in tearing the guy down then for recognizing his value to the team. I feel like Im on a 49ers site defending Kyren
Wasnt a fumble but it sure was a touchdown, and thank god we have you KW23!!
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You seriously just can't admit shit - you have to call it "attacks" and spew this subterfuge.
 
Ellard80 said:
You seriously just can't admit shit - you have to call it "attacks" and spew this subterfuge.
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Nice strawman! When did I use "attacks"??
Good grief, anyways I'll continue to focus on what he does great and how lucky we are to have him.
Good luck with your 49ers though
 
dieterbrock said:
Nice strawman! When did I use "attacks"??
Good grief, anyways I'll continue to focus on what he does great and how lucky we are to have him.
Good luck with your 49ers though
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lol... oh you said "tearing him down" my bad lol!

You really shouldn't use the term strawman anymore because you don't have any clue how to use it.
 
And I still contend his wrist/shin are down before ball came out
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Ellard80 said:
lol... oh you said "tearing him down" my bad lol!

You really shouldn't use the term strawman anymore because you don't have any clue how to use it.
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Keep fightin Niner Guy!!
(You literally used quotation marks for something I didnt say #embarassing)
 
Ellard80 said:
It's funny that you talk about word play here then use the word "attacking" a player. That is such a manipulative term people use to drive narratives.

Kyren is great in a lot of ways, and I want to keep him. But an obvious reality is that he has ball security issues. He does many things well. I think he is the best short yardage back in the NFL. However, the ball coming loose is an issue we have all witnessed with our own eyes.

That's just a statement of a measurable fact, nothing attacking about it.
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He's not imo the best short yardage back. Barkley, Henry, and i would likely put Joe Mixon there too.
 
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OldSchool said:
He's not imo the best short yardage back. Barkley, Henry, and i would likely put Joe Mixon there too.
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He is pretty damn reliable on those short yardage runs.

I think Henry and Barkley have him in the explosive run category.
 
Allen2McVay said:
Is that the play from the Rams' 2nd possession, when Nacua fell on the ball?

I think it is but I'm not certain.
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Can't tell anything from that pic anyway.

When they replayed it on TV you could see that he fumbled right before his knee hit.
 
Ellard80 said:
Can't tell anything from that pic anyway.

When they replayed it on TV you could see that he fumbled right before his knee hit.
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If we are talking about the same play ... Absolutely.

First quarter / Rams' 2nd possession) ... ball came-out but Nacua fell on it. Absolutely a fumble.

Re-watched the game twice, and it's not debateable. The refs missed the call but it was moot because of the Nacua recovery. Had MN recovered, the play would have been challenged and ruled a fumble / MN ball. Without the challenge, the refs blown call stood; and, thus, the box score does not reflect a fumble.
 
OldSchool said:
You few guys are so defensive about Kyren. Im not sure I've seen anyone say he isn't good. I've seen pretty much everyone say they'd keep him just don't want to pay him top dollar.
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Yep Deiter's a bit touchy about his Notre Dame boys.

Williams has to secure the ball. I don't want to see that thing hitting the ground. Same with Stafford. He has to avoid that small group of passes where it looks like he hit the crack pipe.

Ball security is huge in this game. We're up against it in this matchup.
 
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OldSchool said:
You few guys are so defensive about Kyren. Im not sure I've seen anyone say he isn't good. I've seen pretty much everyone say they'd keep him just don't want to pay him top dollar.
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Imagine that? Defending a Rams player on a Rams Fan Website? How weird huh?
And being criticized for it….
 
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