How stable are the Rams right now?

[ottoman89]

IDK, he's only been gone for a couple of years and he was replaced by James Gladstone who everyone had accolades for, so again, I like Holmes, but I need to see it play out more before I feel that Holmes was the straw that stirred the drink.

I understand. I just really like how the Lions have drafted and moves they've made with him there. And really don't like how we've done here since he left. Early indication is Brad is a great GM.

 

[den-the-coach]

I understand. I just really like how the Lions have drafted and moves they've made with him there. And really don't like how we've done here since he left. Early indication is Brad is a great GM.

Easier to draft when you have multiple picks and you're picking early. Again I like Holmes, but I'm going to withhold judgment on Snead in Gladstone until this draft is complete.

 

[AvengerRam]

Take the most stable building and remove the pillars that hold it up. What happens?

Give us a year with Stafford, Kupp, Donald and the OL healthy, and we’ll look a lot more stability.

 

[dieterbrock]

I'm with @Psycho_X
They've been making head scratcher moves and seemingly questionable decisions for years, but all of that gets disguised when winning. Off the top of my head, these were some pretty head scratching moves:
-Signing Ogletree to big extension and then trading him
-The Gurley fiasco was a mess, they didnt need to sign him to an extension when they did, and the way it was all handled was bush league
-The Brandin Cooks situation, again signed to a big extension and dumped for chump change after a down year due to injury, only to see him revert to form
-The "He's our QB for now" after winning a playoff game and the dumping of Goff was whacky (even though it worked)
Cam Akers sitch was crazy but in reality its not all that surprising considering the history
And I am 100% certain they will be right back to their winning ways

 

[Selassie I]

The stability of every single NFL franchise is dependent on it's owner. Our Rams are in the most stable hands that can be asked for there.

The turnover that happens every... single... year... with players happens on every... single... team. It's by design from the league to create parody. I'll buy that every... single... time over leagues like the NBA & MLB. The NFL model is set-up to try and make sure all teams can compete on an even playing field.

Some teams have ownership that sucks ass. Most of us here have an intimate understanding of this unfortunately. So even in a league designed to create parody... there are some teams that still manage to be world class consistent losers anyway. The suck ass owners are the reason for it. Thank All That Is Holy that Ram fans no longer have to live under that cloud of suck ass.

The days of having a Dynasty team without blatant cheating ended long before the year 2000. Those days ended when the league made the WISE decision to do its best to create parody among all of it's teams.

All teams have to reshuffle their players after every season... even the SB champs. No teams are immune to it. Some teams are infected with a cancerous ownership though... we are NOT.

We also have one of the very few QBs on the planet who is capable of winning a Super Bowl. A QB who said this week that he expects to be playing in the SB this year against that team in KC.

That is as fucking stable as any team can hope to be in my books.

 

[Ram Ts]

Rams have another season stinker like the last one, Donald will retire, McVay will head to the booth and Ramsey will be traded.

I’m positive about 2023 being a bounce back year.
But I do wonder (if we finish under 500 again), 2024 becomes a tank year. McVay takes time off, trade assets (Ramsey, etc), take cap hits (AD, Stafford, etc) - and start 2025 fresh with the resulting high 2024 & 2025 FRPs (maybe 2025 used on a top QB) and available cap space.

 

[Riverumbbq]

I believe the Rams are in good shape heading into the draft with 10 picks, I also like that we have some tradable players which can increase that number as well as bring some needed CAP relief. I don't move either Donald or Ramsey this year, ... but Floyd, Higbee, Van Jefferson & one of Brian Allen or Coleman Shelton helps create significant additional CAP space, and 3 of them can get us more draft picks. Restructure Cooper Kupp's contract and voila, with the above included, we'll have plenty of CAP room to maneuver the off-season. Remember that re-signing quality players long-term will provide a big discount during the first year of their new contract, so 2023 CAP need not be overly excessive.
The Rams went in strong at the 2022 Trade Deadline last year while attempting to bring in Edge Brian Burns, they came up short, although I have no reason to believe our team won't take another shot at either him or another elite Edge as we enter draft season, ... Snead was willing to trade our 2024/2025 1'st round draft picks, perhaps with more time now he'll manage to forge a few new offers. Trading for a younger high quality Edge makes Floyd obsolete, creates CAP space & likely brings us an additional 3'rd round pick. Just be sure to give him an immediate long-term extension so we don't repeat that Von Miller contract debacle. jmo.

 

[John R]

I'm a lot less confident and high on the organization than I was 2-3 years ago. Some bad decisions with contracts and drafting, the Akers situation looked a fool, and Wagner "mutually parting ways".

Not to mention I've been worried and the worry is coming to light that Brad Holmes was the brains of the FO. Lions are really building something and we're being torn down slowly but painfully it seems right now.

I agree about Brad Holmes. Not much has been said about him, but I was worried at the time and even more since last year.

 

[PARAM]

Now a piece by Jourdan Rodrigue suggests the Rams were skeptical of success in 2022, from the get go, and how Morris was acting as glue to the team struggles.

Lastly… yesterday’s surprise Bobby Wagner release. This might have been all cap related, but the comment “he wants to be on a winner” sort of jumps off the page.

Is there drama behind the scenes we should be concerned about?

Perhaps the answer to that last question is "no". If McVay's disappointment was the ST coach, the DB coach, the OL coach, that's all been pared away.

Did Jourdan say "many around the building were skeptical of success"? Or did she say "skeptical of repeating". There's a huge difference.

Perhaps Morris was the glue preventing McVay from blowing up and firing those assistant coaches in week 8!!!

 

[CGI_Ram]

For the record; I definitely think the Rams are stable. We have the NFL’s best HC, so we’re gooood.

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[Dodgersrf]

Last season was the exception, not the rule.

We are a much better team without all the injuries.
A playoff team, in fact.

 

[Riverumbbq]

Is this stable ?

 

[Wisconsinram]

A few thoughts:
- We all knew going "all in" was going to result in the bill being due someday. We are here now.
- What's awesome is we won the damn thing! Raise your hand if you would have preferred the "Packer Way." Not me.
- Brad Holmes is a great evaluator of talent and proving to be a very good GM in his short tenure. I'm happy for him.

I absolutely love our front office/coach combination. Top of the league, imo. I do, however, suspect there is going to be a true "reset" this offseason as they reposition for another run. I suspect many more moves to come to get us in position. Ramsey, Floyd, perhaps AD, and many more.

Fans are going to be faced with the unrealistic view we have enough to contend for a SB in the next two years or embrace the transition with the understanding we have the right guys in place to get it done in a short period of time.

We don't have a SB winning roster. Bobby is gone, Ramsey and Floyd will soon follow, and those aren't moves you make to win it all in '23. The front office is clearly envisioning a retooling.

 

[Merlin]

Lastly… yesterday’s surprise Bobby Wagner release. This might have been all cap related, but the comment “he wants to be on a winner” sort of jumps off the page.

No idea how well they can reload in one offseason with the current resources. Gonna have to wait and see what the roster looks like going into camp, that should be a fun projection round here too.

But as it pertains to Wags I think we need to remember the Rams do everything they can to protect the egos of the players. Wags was a cut. He was not the guy for the future and they have a LB they want to be the one who's on the field for all the snaps so he represented a cost savings by being cut. What he wanted doesn't matter here, he would have been cut regardless because of those reasons.

 

[AvengerRam]

A few thoughts:
- We all knew going "all in" was going to result in the bill being due someday. We are here now.
- What's awesome is we won the damn thing! Raise your hand if you would have preferred the "Packer Way." Not me.
- Brad Holmes is a great evaluator of talent and proving to be a very good GM in his short tenure. I'm happy for him.

I absolutely love our front office/coach combination. Top of the league, imo. I do, however, suspect there is going to be a true "reset" this offseason as they reposition for another run. I suspect many more moves to come to get us in position. Ramsey, Floyd, perhaps AD, and many more.

Fans are going to be faced with the unrealistic view we have enough to contend for a SB in the next two years or embrace the transition with the understanding we have the right guys in place to get it done in a short period of time.

We don't have a SB winning roster. Bobby is gone, Ramsey and Floyd will soon follow, and those aren't moves you make to win it all in '23. The front office is clearly envisioning a retooling.

Do you also have tomorrow’s winning lottery numbers?

Kidding aside…I don’t mean to pick on you specifically. I do think, however, that you, along with many, are really jumping the gun here.

Let’s see what the plan is here before judging. Sometimes, teams purge and go into rebuild mode.

Sometimes…they trade an elite guy (say, for example, Tyreek Hill) to get the resources to reload and retool quickly.

We don’t know the full plan yet.

 

[Wisconsinram]

Jesus, I originally only saw your first line and was triggered, thinking you were batshit crazy after respecting you for all of these years!

After seeing the rest of your post, I get where you are coming from. If it's a couple of players (i.e. Bobby and another), I will fully agree that we don't know the plan yet.

Personally, I don't think that will be the approach. I think McSnead will want championships and won't "cut around the edges" to get more. This roster has many holes, imo, with limited resources (draft picks or cap) to compete with the upper echelon teams.

I'll "buy-in" to whatever avenue they choose because I believe in them. Not sure that will be the approach of many fans/the board.

Personally, I'm prepared for a two-year retooling that places us in a position to give it a real go in '25. I'm likely wrong, but that's what I forecast.

 

[Loyal]

For the record; I definitely think the Rams are stable. We have the NFL’s best HC, so we’re gooood.

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[PhillyRam]

Do you also have tomorrow’s winning lottery numbers?

Kidding aside…I don’t mean to pick on you specifically. I do think, however, that you, along with many, are really jumping the gun here.

Let’s see what the plan is here before judging. Sometimes, teams purge and go into rebuild mode.

Sometimes…they trade an elite guy (say, for example, Tyreek Hill) to get the resources to reload and retool quickly.

We don’t know the full plan yet.

Tyreke Hill is an outstanding comp. They dumped a premier deep threat. Talking heads started predicting the Chiefs to finish 3rd in the division...

How did that turn out?

Sometimes you have to make an unpopular move like that to maintain longterm cap health and avoid the cap hell the Saints are in.

Save cap room, add picks, re-tool on the fly.

 

[oldnotdead]

Just a what if question:

Would you trade Ramsey for Brian Burns?

Personally, I'd say yes. Burns is younger and a dominant edge. But the caveat is making Jimmy Lake DC. Jimmy is more likely to play Rochell and Durant on the boundaries and play his defense aggressively. To trade away the best CB even for a dominant edge is a waste because with Morris he will never have the time to get to the QB. It's no fluke that AD and Floyd have had a drop in production. Morris' policy of uncontested catches and wide open short zone is why.

The problem with trading Ramsey is they still could end up with about $10M dead cap so they might not clear as much as most think.

 

[OldSchool]

Franchise is a lot more stable than the fan base that's for damned sure.