How does Bochy not win MOY?

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moklerman

moklerman

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I'm a Dodgers fan and really can't stand the Giants but this should have been an easy choice. Bochy clearly did the most with the least and deserves to be the Manager of the Year. It doesn't even seem debatable to me.

Is there really an argument to be made for the guy from Washington? Help me out baseball followers.
 
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moklerman said:
I'm a Dodgers fan and really can't stand the Giants but this should have been an easy choice. Bochy clearly did the most with the least and deserves to be the Manager of the Year. It doesn't even seem debatable to me.

Is there really an argument to be made for the guy from Washington? Help me out baseball followers.
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Because it's based more on the regular season, and let's face it, the Giants sort of limped into the post season.
 
brokeu91 said:
Because it's based more on the regular season, and let's face it, the Giants sort of limped into the post season.
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I get sick of the baseball writers/voters. Not trying to kill the messenger here, I appreciate your input but talk about a bunch of hypocrites. It's supposed to be all about winning and post season success so I don't understand why they put such a premium on regular season accomplishments. Didn't Bochy and the Giants beat the Nationals in the first round?
 
moklerman said:
I get sick of the baseball writers/voters. Not trying to kill the messenger here, I appreciate your input but talk about a bunch of hypocrites. It's supposed to be all about winning and post season success so I don't understand why they put such a premium on regular season accomplishments. Didn't Bochy and the Giants beat the Nationals in the first round?
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It is 100% a regular season award.

I think you can look at a lot of managers and make a case for them. I mean, if I wasn't a Cardinal fan that shouted at the TV watching Matheny I could see where someone would make a case he was deserving...he dealt with injuries and slumping production all season and got his team to the NLCS. I'm with you though, I'd have chosen Bochy.

Personally, I think Bochy is in the argument for best manager in the game today, period.
 
moklerman said:
I'm a Dodgers fan and really can't stand the Giants but this should have been an easy choice. Bochy clearly did the most with the least and deserves to be the Manager of the Year. It doesn't even seem debatable to me.

Is there really an argument to be made for the guy from Washington? Help me out baseball followers.
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Same way Pat Riley never won it when he coached the Lakers & Heat!
 
den-the-coach said:
Same way Pat Riley never won it when he coached the Lakers & Heat!
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I think Phil Jackson was penalized in a similar way because he had a loaded roster but neither seems like the same thing as Bochy. I could understand Bochy not being the choice if the Giants won it all with a bloated payroll or a star-studded lineup but the Giants weren't expected to do much, didn't have many "names" and didn't have any big years by the guys that were actually there.

Even the guy from Washington had more to work with in terms of the roster(IMO) and ultimately did less with it.
 
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I think it is a product of success. It seems they pick the storyline, Washington's having a ten game improvement under a first year manager. I think unless it was a ridiculous late season run like the 2011 Cardinals, Bochy or Matheny will never win a Manager of the Year because it's almost expected the Giants and Cardinals make it to the postseason and this is defined as a regular season award.
 
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