Garrett Grayson 2:30 ABC

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Athos said:
As much help as they need at WR, their line is a big hot mess. No LT and that RT? Yesh. Not all that much better. If they wanna get Newton killed again, I suppose they could go get another WR...but if they don't get premium talent on the O-Line, Cam is going to have another subpar year and it won't be because of the weapons. 36 sacks and counting. And that's in a bad defensive division to boot.
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I agree...which is why I agree with jrry in that the Panthers could be a great partner for a trade down.
 
I've liked what I've seen from Grayson so far. Utah offense has been unstoppable so far.
 
Thoughts?

Numbers weren't pretty, but he fit some balls into some tight windows. Didn't have a clean pocket most of the game. I think he is a good fit in the second or third round.
 
I agree, it was about the least ideal situation to try to showcase him in between Utah getting constant pressure, the head coach leaving for Florida and zero running game, and I thought he hung in there tough and made some nice throws while on the move. He also showed solid mobility on that touchdown, which is always a welcome asset.
 
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FRO said:
Thoughts?

Numbers weren't pretty, but he fit some balls into some tight windows. Didn't have a clean pocket most of the game. I think he is a good fit in the second or third round.
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I still like Travis Wilson better! But Grayson did showcase that he was not folding under constant pressure. Any hopes that Dave Baldwin had getting the Head Coaching gig just was down the drain. They should hire Michigan State Spartan DC Pat Narduzzi tomorrow before he takes the job at Pitt!
 
den-the-coach said:
I still like Travis Wilson better! But Grayson did showcase that he was not folding under constant pressure. Any hopes that Dave Baldwin had getting the Head Coaching gig just was down the drain. They should hire Michigan State Spartan DC Pat Narduzzi tomorrow before he takes the job at Pitt!
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Travis Wilson is a really bad QB. Don't let one game fool you. :cool:
 
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Let me start by saying I like Grayson quite a bit and think Fro's mock of Collins, Erving and Grayson the best. That being said and please bear in mind we are talking about a 3rd rounder.

My biggest concern at the next level is his ability to go through his progressions. He can make the throws but can read the defense and take what the defense gives him. In 90% of his plays he takes 1 read, keys on that read and delivers to that person. I don't see a QB going through his progressions.

Even his deep balls he is locked into the hot reciever and never looks off. Never a pump fake to draw the safety away from the coverage.....not even a glance to the other side of the field. Sounds sime and an easy fix but you can't get away with that at the next level.

There is a lot to like about his game but this is a concern for me and something that is kind of a big deal. It's small details that separate greatness and mediocrity. Bradford had a similar problem his first 2 or 3 years in the NFL and still something he has not fully corrected, so it's not exactly an easy fix.

That being said I would love this guy in the 3rd and still like Fro's mock with Grayson in the 3rd
 
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Boston Ram said:
Let me start by saying I like Grayson quite a bit and think Fro's mock of Collins, Erving and Grayson the best. That being said and please bear in mind we are talking about a 3rd rounder.

My biggest concern at the next level is his ability to go through his progressions. He can make the throws but can read the defense and take what the defense gives him. In 90% of his plays he takes 1 read, keys on that read and delivers to that person. I don't see a QB going through his progressions.

Even his deep balls he is locked into the hot reciever and never looks off. Never a pump fake to draw the safety away from the coverage.....not even a glance to the other side of the field. Sounds sime and an easy fix but you can't get away with that at the next level.

There is a lot to like about his game but this is a concern for me and something that is kind of a big deal. It's small details that separate greatness and mediocrity. Bradford had a similar problem his first 2 or 3 years in the NFL and still something he has not fully corrected, so it's not exactly an easy fix.

That being said I would love this guy in the 3rd and still like Fro's mock with Grayson in the 3rd
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He isn't the perfect prospect, hence being a second through forth rounder. He does have many good qualities you can build with. Love his pocket presence and accuracy.
 
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I turned on the game to see Garrett Grayson and thought I was watching Garrett Gilbert instead.
 
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dieterbrock said:
I turned on the game to see Garrett Grayson and thought I was watching Garrett Gilbert instead.
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FRO said:
He isn't the perfect prospect, hence being a second through forth rounder. He does have many good qualities you can build with. Love his pocket presence and accuracy.
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I agree and I do like a lot of what he brings to the table. By all accounts he will work hard to improve his game. Quite frankly it's the only real flaw in his game and is probably a product of his offense.

Both Grayson and Fajardo are two late rounders I like and both kind of sucked today lol. You have to take bowl games with a grain of salt though as there are many variables. Team motivation, 3 weeks of no games, venue distractions, etc.
 
Boston Ram said:
I agree and I do like a lot of what he brings to the table. By all accounts he will work hard to improve his game. Quite frankly it's the only real flaw in his game and is probably a product of his offense.

Both Grayson and Fajardo are two late rounders I like and both kind of sucked today lol. You have to take bowl games with a grain of salt though as there are many variables. Team motivation, 3 weeks of no games, venue distractions, etc.
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I think every time you watch a prospect you have to look at everything overall, not just the bottom line production. Grayson rarely had a pocket and there were some bad drops by his best receiver Higgins. I saw him make some impressive throws. The end result wasn't there though. He didn't have a real dominating performance. He could have has 500 yards passing and 8 TD passes, but if all he was doing was throwing bubble screens to get all that, I wouldn't have been as impressed. I know football is a bottom line business, but you have to take everything into account.
 
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I like the way Grayson looks and wouldn't mind him in another set of horns. Brandon Bridge is a physical specimen with a rocket arm but a pea brain at this stage. He also could possibly be a guy the Rams could mold into something special. Neither would be ready to start next year I'm afraid.
 
Ramhusker said:
I like the way Grayson looks and wouldn't mind him in another set of horns. Brandon Bridge is a physical specimen with a rocket arm but a pea brain at this stage. He also could possibly be a guy the Rams could mold into something special. Neither would be ready to start next year I'm afraid.
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Guaranteed they won't. May not even be ready until 2 years in the league as backups.

Which is why.........Culter. :sneaky:
 
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