Florio pushing for Brady to 49’ers

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Florio (who molests collies, by the way) apparently does not understand that the Bucs don't have to let Brady go without compensation, and the 49ers don't have a first round pick to trade. His theory, that the Bucs will ignore all that and just let Tom Brady go to an NFC rival without compensation because he calls up the owner and says "please," is beyond asinine.
 
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I do wonder if the Bucs might accept a future 1st and several 2nds for him? Provided he has informed them he won't play for Bucs again and will retire if not traded. I'm not worried, get him and still lose whiners.
 
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AvengerRam said:
Florio (who molests collies, by the way) apparently does not understand that the Bucs don't have to let Brady go without compensation, and the 49ers don't have a first round pick to trade.

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They don’t HAVE to, but Florio is suggesting the Bucs “owe him a return favor” and should let him go where he wants.
 
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To be fair, the league is bonkers now. Anything is possible.

Today, a 150 mil guaranteed contract was the second most important story.
 
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CGI_Ram said:
They don’t HAVE to, but Florio is suggesting the Bucs “owe him a return favor” and should let him go where he wants.
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Why would they? Tom Brady, due to his contract status, is an asset. When has a team let a player with enormous trade value who is under contract leave without compensation to go to a rival? Makes no sense.
 
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Why would they? Tom Brady, due to his contract status, is an asset. When has a team let a player with enormous trade value who is under contract leave without compensation to go to a rival? Makes no sense.
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I don’t think they would. But @LA_vision is right… this league is whack right now.
 
AvengerRam said:
Why would they? Tom Brady, due to his contract status, is an asset. When has a team let a player with enormous trade value who is under contract leave without compensation to go to a rival? Makes no sense.
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Or you get nothing but an anchor on your cap if he is indeed retired/pissed off.
 
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If he retires he doesn't count against the cap.
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I feel like we're talking past each other.

If he is, in fact, retired, there is no decision for the Bucs to make.

If he wants to continue playing, why would the Bucs release him and let him go to the 49ers rather than trading him?
 
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AvengerRam said:
I feel like we're talking past each other.

If he is, in fact, retired, there is no decision for the Bucs to make.

If he wants to continue playing, why would the Bucs release him and let him go to the 49ers rather than trading him?
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I was talking to the other guy, who said that it he retires he's an anchor on the cap. I get your point and agree.
 
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1maGoh said:
If he retires he doesn't count against the cap.
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The Buccaneers will have $32 million of dead money, which is a salary cap charge for a player no longer on a team's roster, with Brady retiring before June 2. That's almost $11.8 million more than Brady's 2022 cap number. Retirement would void the $8.925 million salary guarantee.

The Buccaneers aren't really in a position to handle an increased 2022 cap obligation relating to Brady. There are currently $189.992 million in 2022 cap commitments with 46 players under contract and a little more than $1.425 million of cap space being carried over to the 2022 league year according to NFLPA data. Only the top 51 salaries (i.e.; cap numbers) matter with offseason salary cap accounting rules. The 2022 salary cap is expected to be at the $208.2 million ceiling the NFL and NFLPA agreed to last May. Once there are 51 players counting, Tampa Bay is projected to be $15.5 million under this ceiling.

This increase could be avoided with waiting to process a Brady retirement by carrying him on the roster until at least June 2. By doing so, the $24 million of bonus proration associated with the dummy or fake 2023 through 2025 contract years would be a 2023 salary cap charge rather than part of the 2022 dead money, which would be $8 million. The Buccaneers would pick up $12,270,588 of 2022 cap room with Brady's 2022 salary and $1.875 million of incentives deemed likely to be earned that have a cap charge coming off the books.
 
JustMe said:
The Buccaneers will have $32 million of dead money, which is a salary cap charge for a player no longer on a team's roster, with Brady retiring before June 2. That's almost $11.8 million more than Brady's 2022 cap number. Retirement would void the $8.925 million salary guarantee.

The Buccaneers aren't really in a position to handle an increased 2022 cap obligation relating to Brady. There are currently $189.992 million in 2022 cap commitments with 46 players under contract and a little more than $1.425 million of cap space being carried over to the 2022 league year according to NFLPA data. Only the top 51 salaries (i.e.; cap numbers) matter with offseason salary cap accounting rules. The 2022 salary cap is expected to be at the $208.2 million ceiling the NFL and NFLPA agreed to last May. Once there are 51 players counting, Tampa Bay is projected to be $15.5 million under this ceiling.

This increase could be avoided with waiting to process a Brady retirement by carrying him on the roster until at least June 2. By doing so, the $24 million of bonus proration associated with the dummy or fake 2023 through 2025 contract years would be a 2023 salary cap charge rather than part of the 2022 dead money, which would be $8 million. The Buccaneers would pick up $12,270,588 of 2022 cap room with Brady's 2022 salary and $1.875 million of incentives deemed likely to be earned that have a cap charge coming off the books.
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Okay...

And what does this have to do with the question of whether, if he wants to play, the Bucs should trade him or just release him?
 
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The Buccaneers will have $32 million of dead money, which is a salary cap charge for a player no longer on a team's roster, with Brady retiring before June 2. That's almost $11.8 million more than Brady's 2022 cap number. Retirement would void the $8.925 million salary guarantee.

The Buccaneers aren't really in a position to handle an increased 2022 cap obligation relating to Brady. There are currently $189.992 million in 2022 cap commitments with 46 players under contract and a little more than $1.425 million of cap space being carried over to the 2022 league year according to NFLPA data. Only the top 51 salaries (i.e.; cap numbers) matter with offseason salary cap accounting rules. The 2022 salary cap is expected to be at the $208.2 million ceiling the NFL and NFLPA agreed to last May. Once there are 51 players counting, Tampa Bay is projected to be $15.5 million under this ceiling.

This increase could be avoided with waiting to process a Brady retirement by carrying him on the roster until at least June 2. By doing so, the $24 million of bonus proration associated with the dummy or fake 2023 through 2025 contract years would be a 2023 salary cap charge rather than part of the 2022 dead money, which would be $8 million. The Buccaneers would pick up $12,270,588 of 2022 cap room with Brady's 2022 salary and $1.875 million of incentives deemed likely to be earned that have a cap charge coming off the books.
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See, sounds like it's not an issue. Well done.
 
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