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Ellard80 said:
You think this thread is good for this site?

It reminds me of the stuff i used to read on facebook (until i just stopped looking at it because it was so toxic) - just a bunch of back and forth that doesn't lead anywhere good. Clearly no one is changing their opinion either way.

Which is for the most part pretty harmless when it comes to sports - but with this topic and politics... ugh
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12intheBox said:
My family called it off - and the strong majority of them have been as in denial about Covid as most of you have.
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Skepticism of the deadliness of the virus <> denial.

I'm not in denial about the flu either, or that it can kill people and it's harder on those who already have co-morbidities. The fact that I don't think we need to shut down society and engage in hair-on-fire panic en masse does not mean I'm in denial about the flu.
 
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thirteen28 said:
Skepticism of the deadliness of the virus <> denial.

I'm not in denial about the flu either, or that it can kill people and it's harder on those who already have co-morbidities. The fact that I don't think we need to shut down society and engage in hair-on-fire panic en masse does not mean I'm in denial about the flu.
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yes the flu has always caused my sister who is a nurse to work 80 hour weeks.....

Here is the thing many of us can admitting this virus is bad doesn't also mean that we are bunkering up with CNN in the basement crying in fear.
 
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-X- said:
Or lemmings.

Consider this. In most capital cases being tried in a court of law, the prosecution and the defense both have expert witnesses. Both tell a different story. Both can’t be right. Trust them both anyway?
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What capital cases are you watching? In Capital cases the experts that get called are usually on the punishment phase - not to contest guilt but to try to get a life sentence instead.

does that mean there aren’t paid whore experts out there? Of course there are.

are epidemiologists in that category? Give me a break.
Does the media have a financial incentive to hype fear? Sure, I’ll buy that. Do epidemiologists?
 
Ellard80 said:
You think this thread is good for this site?

It reminds me of the stuff i used to read on facebook (until i just stopped looking at it because it was so toxic) - just a bunch of back and forth that doesn't lead anywhere good. Clearly no one is changing their opinion either way.

Which is for the most part pretty harmless when it comes to sports - but with this topic and politics... ugh
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Eau Contraire Mon Ami , it’s exactly the way it’s supposed to be.
Don’t let go of your beliefs.
Ever.
 
12intheBox said:
What capital cases are you watching? In Capital cases the experts that get called are usually on the punishment phase - not to contest guilt but to try to get a life sentence instead.

does that mean there aren’t paid whore experts out there? Of course there are.

are epidemiologists in that category? Give me a break.
Does the media have a financial incentive to hype fear? Sure, I’ll buy that. Do epidemiologists?
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Try not to be so literal. The broad point is that there are experts in every field and there’s almost never universal consensus on everything. When the experts shamed us for buying masks because they didn’t work (openly yelling at us in the case of the surgeon general), were they right or wrong? There was consensus at the time. Now there’s consensus the other way.

50 years ago, there was almost universal consensus the earth was gonna freeze over. Right or wrong? 20 years ago, after one of the worst hurricane seasons on record, the consensus was that climate change caused it, and EVERY year from then on was going to be as bad or worse. It wasnt. Right or wrong?

Nuclear energy will never be attainable.

Stress causes ulcers

Bloodletting is a cure-all

Baby formula is better than breast milk.

The earth was once believed to be flat.

The sun orbited earth and not the other way around.

The FDA approves a shit ton of “beneficial drugs” that later turn out to be deadly and are removed from the market.

Do I need to go on? Or is it safe to say that experts don’t know everything just because they’re experts.
 
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Try not to be so literal. The broad point is that there are experts in every field and there’s almost never universal consensus on everything. When the experts shamed us for buying masks because they didn’t work (openly yelling at us in the case of the surgeon general), were they right or wrong? There was consensus at the time. Now there’s consensus the other way.

50 years ago, there was almost universal consensus the earth was gonna freeze over. Right or wrong? 20 years ago, after one of the worst hurricane seasons on record, the consensus was that climate change caused it, and EVERY year from then on was going to be as bad or worse. It wasnt. Right or wrong?

Nuclear energy will never be attainable.

Stress causes ulcers

Bloodletting is a cure-all

Baby formula is better than breast milk.

The earth was once believed to be flat.

The sun orbited earth and not the other way around.

The FDA approves a shit ton of “beneficial drugs” that later turn out to be deadly and are removed from the market.

Do I need to go on? Or is it safe to say that experts don’t know everything just because they’re experts.
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science is always learning - always questioning. It doesn’t work for those who prefer to decide quickly and stick to their opinion regardless of what new data emerges. It’s a novel virus. We will know a lot more about it 10 years from now than we do now. Science doesn’t mind having been wrong before - it means they are getting closer to right. And yes, I will continue to lean into the most educated voices in the room - on pretty much all topics. That’s part of knowing how little I know.

but hey, what has science ever done for us right?
 
meanwhile my very right wing governor admitted today our state healthcare system and economy will crash if things don't change.
 
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12intheBox said:
science is always learning - always questioning. It doesn’t work for those who prefer to decide quickly and stick to their opinion regardless of what new data emerges. It’s a novel virus. We will know a lot more about it 10 years from now than we do now. Science doesn’t mind having been wrong before - it means they are getting closer to right. And yes, I will continue to lean into the most educated voices in the room - on pretty much all topics. That’s part of knowing how little I know.

but hey, what has science ever done for us right?
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So science is sometimes wrong? Then why is it a crime to question it?
 
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dieterbrock said:
So science is sometimes wrong? Then why is it a crime to question it?
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Not a ‘crime’ at all

Not even wrong to have some questions and doubts.

However, when just about every qualified medical expert and epidemiologist on the planet offers the same advice, over the past eight months, on how to best deal with a novel coronavirus, it’s kind of arrogant, ignorant and foolish to ignore and undermine their recommendations.
 
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the positives: treatment is better - morbidity is down.
The negatives: No room in the hospital to receive said treament.
 
After much consideration, and deliberation with the admins here, it’s probably best to just lock this thread and the Climate change thread, because they no longer serve as informative discussions. They’re actually quite divisive now. Probably my fault, but I claim prima noctae, and can bang your women legally.
 
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