Covid 19 thread

[12intheBox]

Many buildings have temp check as you enter - so for me it’s a factor of how often I enter a bldg.

In an ideal world, we wouldn’t need mandates - we would be able to trust people to be responsible. Maybe the mandates backfire to that extent. Maybe more people would wear them when needed if they weren’t forced to.

 

[den-the-coach]

I just don't like blanket mask policies in places or situations where it makes very little sense to wear one - especially if you're able to distance yourself from others.

I concur, seems better just to have all of you ensure to stay 6 feet apart and not wear the mask for the ability to breath properly....I have noticed that men doing road work are not donning the masks or they have it lowered to their necks, while doing the physical work, not sure why your group can't follow a similar policy.

 

[den-the-coach]

In an ideal world, we wouldn’t need mandates - we would be able to trust people to be responsible. Maybe the mandates backfire to that extent. Maybe more people would wear them when needed if they weren’t forced to.

I disagree and will never understand that why someone would not do, what is asked. Do they go through red lights, because you're supposed to stop? Do those same people, try to go over a bridge that is closed? Sometimes rules are put in place to protect the masses and being prior military and fighting for freedom, I still have a hard time understanding.

 

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4 to 6 times a day? a little extreme?

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Meh. I'm used to it. I visit several different hospitals, and they all have the same policy. So do other buildings, manufacturing plants, etc. It's the bare minimum way of being able to detect if someone is sick, so whatever.

 

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I concur, seems better just to have all of you ensure to stay 6 feet apart and not wear the mask for the ability to breath properly....I have noticed that men doing road work are not donning the masks or they have it lowered to their necks, while doing the physical work, not sure why your group can't follow a similar policy.

Yeah, we are. I got the policy changed at that plant, and I've already emailed the useful idiots in our Corporate offices to adhere to their voluminous safety guidelines when issuing new mandates. It's in there, clear as day, that we cannot put ourselves in situations that we recognize as dangerous to our health (which is why we have JHA's). So I outlined why cutting off our own oxygen supply is dangerous. I even threw in that study that I'm sure none of them will read. lol. I hope they skip to the conclusion like I did.

 

[den-the-coach]

Yeah, we are. I got the policy changed at that plant, and I've already emailed the useful idiots in our Corporate offices

Good Lord, I hope the people who e-mail me, don't feel that way.

 

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Good Lord, I hope the people who e-mail me, don't feel that way.

lol. Nah, I'm sure they feel you're the salt of the earth.

We just have so much bloat at the top, it's borderline ridiculous. For instance, there are 7 of us that are responsible for the maintenance, upkeep, and repair of 2000 elevators (do the math). To manage this army of employees, we have a branch manager, 3 account reps, a regional manager, district manager, safety auditor, regional safety manager, and 2 sales managers. It's the old adage. Too many chiefs, not enough Indians.

 

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Seventy-four Long Island residents tested for COVID-19 over a five-day period earlier this month received false positive results, according to Nassau and Suffolk counties.

Connecticut health officials issued a warning on Monday, saying a state-run laboratory had delivered false-positive COVID-19 test results to dozens of patients, including many nursing home residents.

Patients who received incorrect COVID-19 results from UK HealthCare have been notified after problems with about 26 tests were discovered, the system disclosed Thursday.

A cluster of COVID-19 antigen tests in Manchester has turned out a high number of false positives.The Vermont Department of Health first learned of a single positive antigen test conducted at Manchester Medical Center on July 3. On July 10, another positive result was reported, and over the course of the week, that number grew to 59.

The state's Department of Public Health said that its state laboratory found a "flaw" in one of its testing systems and that 90 of 144 people who were tested for the virus between June 15 and June 17 received false positive tests. 161 specimens were collected and a total of 91 of those showed false positives.


Disclaimer (again): Not saying there isn't a pandemic. Only that the numbers *cannot* be trusted.

 

[den-the-coach]

lol. Nah, I'm sure they feel you're the salt of the earth.

It's the old adage. Too many chiefs, not enough Indians.

Salt or I've been known to pepper some gumbo. Anyway, I have always had the honor of starting towards the bottom of any organization and worked my way up, I believe that makes a ton of difference.

To me, it's much easier to get buy in...For example, in the military I started off as enlisted and then became an officer (Branded Mustang Term) but I never had issues getting a group or squadron to follow once they saw all the combat service ribbons....IMO, I'm sure you would feel better communicating with somebody that actually has done the job before even if it was several years ago.

 

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I'm sure you would feel better communicating with somebody that actually has done the job before even if it was several years ago.

100%. There are, currently, three 25-29 year old females in management (over our branch) that have only the experience of riding in an elevator. Nothing more. Sure, a degree in something, probably, but that's it. They cannot possibly relate to anything any of us have to go through in terms of labor force, labor hours needed to complete a task, working conditions, knowledge of the equipment... nothing like that. And I'm not pointing out their gender as a slight, in as much as pointing out that there are zero females in the field in this particular trade, so they can't relate. My immediate Supervisor has 30+ years experience in the field, so he knows. He sympathizes. He can relate. But he can't do anything about anything, because the people above him (the inexperienced) call all the shots.

 

[RamBall]

We have our temps checked at nursing homes, the thing about that is I haven't had a fever the entire time I've been sick. It has been a learning experience that's for sure. My cousin has a co-worker that has tested positive and none of her symptoms match my symptoms. She had a fever, difficulty breathing and no sore throat, I had no fever, the worst sore throat ever and nausea.

 

[thirteen28]

Not the Bee | What a time to be alive

Not the Bee is your source for headlines that should be satire, but aren't.

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[thirteen28]

Given that, in many localities, police won't do anything, I wouldn't blame you if you reacted more forcefully this couple did.

 

[OC--LeftCoast]

Given that, in many localities, police won't do anything, I wouldn't blame you if you reacted more forcefully this couple did.

lol, I actually deleted my post for the greater good of our ROD community

but yeah, not gonna stand by while my family gets maced by a freaking lunatic

ehh...not gonna happen...gender and age at that point becomes irrelevant

 

[thirteen28]

lol, I actually deleted my post for the greater good of our ROD community

but yeah, not gonna stand by while my family gets maced by a freaking lunatic

ehh...not gonna happen...gender and age at that point becomes irrelevant

Edited mine on your behalf

 

[OldSchool]

Not the Bee | What a time to be alive

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Somebody maces me while I'm eating without a mask? As it was a woman no ass beatings would be involved but the cops and lawyers would be.

 

[OC--LeftCoast]

Edited mine on your behalf

You’re da man...but of course

 

[Mackeyser]

Gotta ask Mack, so in your ideology wearing a mask (a cloth freaking mask) trumps social distancing?

Let alone shouting through that, that cloth mask.

Unless I’m reading this wrong, that’s pretty much what you just insinuated

Nah, I wear a surgical mask and suggest others do as well. And cloth masks without minimum social distancing leads to higher risks. Not as high as no mask, but certainly higher than surgical mask and social distancing

Part of why I say “sports is the crucible in which we distill human virtue” is that there are few pure moments in life that groups of people are involved in.

those pure moments in sport show us what is possible.

Is any mass moment pure? Probably not. I don’t think that’s the point.

And whether it’s a Tea Party rally a few years back or BLM now, there are always gonna be people there who aren’t there for the purest of reasons.

I think that’s just part of mass gatherings.

I just wanna get through this without losing any family or friends or myself... and watch some football.

And don’t worry, we’ll soon be dancing around eviction crisis marches/rallies and then it’ll be something else. And that’s a good thing. I’d rather see passion than apathy, even if I disagree strongly.

 

[Mackeyser]

lol. I don't know how I missed this. I need to read more closely, I guess. I find it amusing (to say the least) that you actually assign mask virtuousness to one group - presumably because of the cause - and find irresponsibility with another - presumably because of the cause. I don't know what protests you're watching, but that's not what's happening (following guidelines). But hey, at least everyone is having a good time in the name of (whatever).


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Yeah, that’s bad. And I wasn’t assigning any virtue to one group, per se. One of the reasons the open carry folks said they were out is to show opposition to a “tyrannical government” and equate mask wearing to that. It was part of why they were marching.

I’ll just say this broadly: if ANY gathering has people in close proximity and they are not remotely taking any precautions, then it’s bad. When it comes to COVID-19, I’m anti-COVID-19 first.

 

[Mackeyser]

Somebody maces me while I'm eating without a mask? As it was a woman no ass beatings would be involved but the cops and lawyers would be.

Bump that. She’d be nursing a massive knot on her noggin before she could get the second squirt off...

Chivalry dies when I’m getting maced by a Karen...