Behind the Grind Episode 3 MauiCamp

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I don’t buy that this was all about giving hope to ppl in Hawaii. It cost money so it’s likely a business decision to build the fan base.
Yeah, I'm with 13/28 it can be both. The excitement those kids had, and the donation by Stan to build new locker rooms was cool, but you're right. This trip will be the story of kids AND adults too, about why they became Ram fans for life.

Add to that the bonding these guys had on that trip. Its win/win/win!
 
I don’t buy that this was all about giving hope to ppl in Hawaii. It cost money so it’s likely a business decision to build the fan base.
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Did anyone think it was? Maybe I missed the hyperbole if they said it. This was about many things. Team building, entertainment, giving to the island, brand recognition and building, etc... They said all these things repeatedly. You make it sound like you think they were being deceitful rather than doing a good thing for all involved.
 
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Did anyone think it was? Maybe I missed the hyperbole if they said it. This was about many things. Team building, entertainment, giving to the island, brand recognition and building, etc... They said all these things repeatedly. You make it sound like you think they were being deceitful rather than doing a good thing for all involved.
McVay said it was. He’s said it a few times before the Maui OTAs.

Not deceitful, maybe disingenuous? I mean, call it what it is, a great opportunity to build the fanbase. Not a way to give hope to people in Maui.
 
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McVay said it was. He’s said it a few times before the Maui OTAs.

Not deceitful, maybe disingenuous? I mean, call it what it is, a great opportunity to build the fanbase. Not a way to give hope to people in Maui.
The Hawaii trip could have been for multiple reasons, purposes and goals (as @RamFan503 suggested); and, you have to admit, there is a facial resemblance between you and Rachel Dratch ...
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McVay said it was. He’s said it a few times before the Maui OTAs.
He said it was “ALL about giving hope to people in Hawaii”? I never heard it. If he said it, it was clearly hyperbole because he repeatedly stressed the team building and forming better people through personal relationships, etc…. I find it odd that you would zero out everything else he said and harp on the idea that he was being “disingenuous” because he - in your mind - insinuated that it was ONLY about that one item you pegged. I guess nothing else he said mattered.

Maybe I’m wrong but I highly doubt many if any others drew that conclusion from the event or the media put out around it.

It looked to me like it was a fun event for all (players, kids, fans, families, staff members, etc) included some charitable work and giving, and built some great camaraderie, while building the brand. There were obviously many aspects to it and it appeared to be done with class.
 
Why not sell it that way?
He DID! I watched pretty much everything around it. He sold it as charity, relationship building, fun, family friendly, etc. Demoff sold the brand building aspect as did a few of the locals. A couple locals also talked about LA and Maui going through similar devastating events. I don’t recall any instances of him saying it was only about bringing hope to the people of the islands.

I don’t mean to harp on this but it kind of pisses me off. It seems to fall under the saying that no good deed goes unpunished. I don’t get it.
 
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He said it was “ALL about giving hope to people in Hawaii”? I never heard it. If he said it, it was clearly hyperbole because he repeatedly stressed the team building and forming better people through personal relationships, etc…. I find it odd that you would zero out everything else he said and harp on the idea that he was being “disingenuous” because he - in your mind - insinuated that it was ONLY about that one item you pegged. I guess nothing else he said mattered.

Maybe I’m wrong but I highly doubt many if any others drew that conclusion from the event or the media put out around it.

It looked to me like it was a fun event for all (players, kids, fans, families, staff members, etc) included some charitable work and giving, and built some great camaraderie, while building the brand. There were obviously many aspects to it and it appeared to be done with class.

You are making WAY too big of a deal over this.
 
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Great way to come home and unwind after a couple of busy days. I got lost in the entire video vibe of the Rams, the Island and the Fans. Everyone was enjoying the moments together. Great bonding all the way around!
 
I guess I just get defensive because we finally have an organization that really seems to do things right with few exceptions after all the years of futility and a pretty poorly run outfit.
I didn’t mean to offend you. I just found it odd. But it’s not anything I care to argue. I’m not that invested in what McVay says to the press.
 
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He said it was “ALL about giving hope to people in Hawaii”? I never heard it. If he said it, it was clearly hyperbole because he repeatedly stressed the team building and forming better people through personal relationships, etc…. I find it odd that you would zero out everything else he said and harp on the idea that he was being “disingenuous” because he - in your mind - insinuated that it was ONLY about that one item you pegged. I guess nothing else he said mattered.

Maybe I’m wrong but I highly doubt many if any others drew that conclusion from the event or the media put out around it.

It looked to me like it was a fun event for all (players, kids, fans, families, staff members, etc) included some charitable work and giving, and built some great camaraderie, while building the brand. There were obviously many aspects to it and it appeared to be done with class.
Ever since the return to LA the Rams have been a first rate franchise. The kind of organization people would want to work for. Players and staff both. I don't recall any ex Ram having something negative to say about the organization or the owner. And the vets who came here pretty much agree the Rams are a first class organization. This trip to Maui is another example of that. I've always taken pride in my Rams fandom. But the last 8 years have taken it to another level.