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In the window that matters, which is 2025 and maybe 2026, the difference between the two is glaring.

Look again I like Young. Nothing against the dude. But this mentality of overvaluing our boys because they're our players is silly.
I just showed you the stats. Mack doesn’t even know if he wants to keep playing and his statistical dropoff demonstrates that. If it was 30 year old Mack then great. But he’s not playing like that anymore.

This overvaluing of aging former star players is silly.

I might rip on some of our players more than anyone on here. I call them out when they aren’t good. ie Noteboom, Allen, Tutu, etc….you must be talking about someone else.
 
Mack is just a name at this point. He might show up for a game or two, but then he'll just coast the rest of the way. And if he's thinking about hanging it up I don't see him playing inspired ball.
 
I just showed you the stats. Mack doesn’t even know if he wants to keep playing and his statistical dropoff demonstrates that. If it was 30 year old Mack then great. But he’s not playing like that anymore.

This overvaluing of aging former star players is silly.

I might rip on some of our players more than anyone on here. I call them out when they aren’t good. ie Noteboom, Allen, Tutu, etc….you must be talking about someone else.
This is an argument I don't want to continue, as I don't want to be disrespectful to Young. So let's agree to disagree.
 
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Browns sued by Cleveland over proposed stadium move to suburbs​


The city of Cleveland has filed a lawsuit to stop the Browns from leaving their lakefront stadium and building a domed stadium in suburban Brook Park.

The suit, filed Tuesday in Cuyahoga County, Ohio, seeks to invoke the "Modell Law" to stop the Browns from moving. The state law says any professional sports owner who uses a tax-supported facility for home games and gets funding from the state or a political subdivision can't leave unless it gets permission to play elsewhere or gives six months' notice.


In October, the Browns announced they informed the city of their intentions to build a $2.4 billion state-of-the-art stadium and entertainment complex in Brook Park -- which is in the same county but 15 miles south of Cleveland -- when their stadium lease with the city expires at the end of the 2028 NFL season.

Browns owners Dee and Jimmy Haslam have been seeking a 50-50 private/public partnership for the construction of the stadium. The Haslams said in a statement that the intended move was the result of trying to "find the optimal long-term solution for our stadium."

The Browns also filed a lawsuit in October seeking clarification on the Modell Law. The state law, which was passed in 1996, was used in 2019 to prevent the Columbus Crew of Major League Soccer from leaving for Texas. The team stayed and was bought by the Haslams, who are also part owners of the NBA's Milwaukee Bucks.

The suit filed by city of Cleveland says that "The Modell Law's requirements are straightforward. It provides that if a team takes taxpayer money and plays in a tax-supported facility, then the owner must either obtain the City's authorization or give the City and others the opportunity to purchase the team before moving the team away from that facility."

The Browns have played at their current stadium -- Huntington Bank Field -- since 1999, when they returned to Cleveland as an expansion franchise. AP Photo/Sue Ogrocki, File
In early August, the city of Cleveland offered the Browns a $1.2 billion proposal to renovate the Huntington Bank Field -- the team's current 65,000-seat stadium -- and redevelop its surrounding property that would have included $461 million from the city. The city also offered a 30-year extension of the team's lease.

The Browns have played on the shores of Lake Erie since their inception in 1946. Their new stadium was built in 1999, when they returned as an expansion franchise.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
 

Browns sued by Cleveland over proposed stadium move to suburbs​


The city of Cleveland has filed a lawsuit to stop the Browns from leaving their lakefront stadium and building a domed stadium in suburban Brook Park.

The suit, filed Tuesday in Cuyahoga County, Ohio, seeks to invoke the "Modell Law" to stop the Browns from moving. The state law says any professional sports owner who uses a tax-supported facility for home games and gets funding from the state or a political subdivision can't leave unless it gets permission to play elsewhere or gives six months' notice.


In October, the Browns announced they informed the city of their intentions to build a $2.4 billion state-of-the-art stadium and entertainment complex in Brook Park -- which is in the same county but 15 miles south of Cleveland -- when their stadium lease with the city expires at the end of the 2028 NFL season.

Browns owners Dee and Jimmy Haslam have been seeking a 50-50 private/public partnership for the construction of the stadium. The Haslams said in a statement that the intended move was the result of trying to "find the optimal long-term solution for our stadium."

The Browns also filed a lawsuit in October seeking clarification on the Modell Law. The state law, which was passed in 1996, was used in 2019 to prevent the Columbus Crew of Major League Soccer from leaving for Texas. The team stayed and was bought by the Haslams, who are also part owners of the NBA's Milwaukee Bucks.

The suit filed by city of Cleveland says that "The Modell Law's requirements are straightforward. It provides that if a team takes taxpayer money and plays in a tax-supported facility, then the owner must either obtain the City's authorization or give the City and others the opportunity to purchase the team before moving the team away from that facility."

The Browns have played at their current stadium -- Huntington Bank Field -- since 1999, when they returned to Cleveland as an expansion franchise. AP Photo/Sue Ogrocki, File
In early August, the city of Cleveland offered the Browns a $1.2 billion proposal to renovate the Huntington Bank Field -- the team's current 65,000-seat stadium -- and redevelop its surrounding property that would have included $461 million from the city. The city also offered a 30-year extension of the team's lease.

The Browns have played on the shores of Lake Erie since their inception in 1946. Their new stadium was built in 1999, when they returned as an expansion franchise.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
LMAO only the Browns could get sued by their own city.

Wait didn't STL sue the Rams too?
 
Cleveland should sue Haslam for incompetent ownership leading to city-wide duress.
 
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This team has some quality people... :giggle:

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In the window that matters, which is 2025 and maybe 2026, the difference between the two is glaring.

Look again I like Young. Nothing against the dude. But this mentality of overvaluing our boys because they're our players is silly.
Problem with Mack is he is getting older so no idea when that steep drop off will happen. Young is ascending and young. The question is what that gap in talent will be next year. I honestly don't know but Mack isn't coming cheap unless he's ring chasing. Cheap ring chasing deal is the only way the Rams should even entertain the idea. If you are talking about going big, I'd go after Myles Garrett if you're going all in. Garrett is way better than both Mack and Young. Him and Verse would immediately be the most lethal defensive pass rush duo along with Turner and Fiske. I'm getting a boner just thinking about it.... don't judge now hahahaha
 
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Problem with Mack is he is getting older so no idea when that steep drop off will happen. Young is ascending and young. The question is what that gap in talent will be next year. I honestly don't know but Mack isn't coming cheap unless he's ring chasing. Cheap ring chasing deal is the only way the Rams should even entertain the idea. If you are talking about going big, I'd go after Myles Garrett if you're going all in. Garrett is way better than both Mack and Young. Him and Verse would immediately be the most lethal defensive pass rush duo along with Turner and Fiske. I'm getting a boner just thinking about it.... don't judge now hahahaha
The drop off has s as ready happened. I posted the numbers and Byron Young played better than Mack this season.
 
Problem with Mack is he is getting older so no idea when that steep drop off will happen. Young is ascending and young. The question is what that gap in talent will be next year. I honestly don't know but Mack isn't coming cheap unless he's ring chasing. Cheap ring chasing deal is the only way the Rams should even entertain the idea. If you are talking about going big, I'd go after Myles Garrett if you're going all in. Garrett is way better than both Mack and Young. Him and Verse would immediately be the most lethal defensive pass rush duo along with Turner and Fiske. I'm getting a boner just thinking about it.... don't judge now hahahaha

The steep drop off happened years ago, but I’m trying my best!
 
The drop off has s as ready happened. I posted the numbers and Byron Young played better than Mack this season.
Nah I'm talking about that drop off where he literally sucks balls to where the game retires him
Maybe I should have clarified. At most to me, Mack probably has one good year left in him which ain't much.
 
The Rams have signed 13 players to Reserve/Future contracts, ensuring each of them a spot on the team's roster this spring.
Each signee spent time on the Rams' practice squad this season: They are:

God-fucking-dammit, not Cephus again. I hope he's cut soon...
 
God-fucking-dammit, not Cephus again. I hope he's cut soon...
The CB, AJ Green, is new. A 6-2 200 lb CB. Been on a few teams since being an UDFA in 20'. He did play some in Cleveland in 21'& 22'. Had a couple picks and 2 forced fumbles. Was in Minnesota's camp this year.
 
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The CB, AJ Green, is new. A 6-2 200 lb CB. Been on a few teams since being an UDFA in 20'. He did play some in Cleveland in 21'& 22'. Had a couple picks and 2 forced fumbles. Was in Minnesota's camp this year.
Green was signed to the Rams' Practice Squad in mid-November.