CARDINALS 2022/23 Arizona Cardinals Thread

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BuffaloRam said:
At what point (5 seasons, 6 seasons as a pro without tangible growth) does Murray become viewed as a middle tier QB?
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He’s been with Kliff for years, so IMO we don’t know what he is yet. He’s got warts, mostly work ethic stuff but what would he look like after a couple seasons under McVay for example? Or Shanahan?
 
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I know that talking heads enthuse about Murray after some games when he does something good that blows their minds, but I'd rather have Jared Goff than him. With an offensive line and a decent coach helping him, I think Jared can be more consistently good than Murray.
 
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Loyal said:
I know that talking heads enthuse about Murray after some games when he does something good that blows their minds, but I'd rather have Jared Goff than him. With an offensive line and a decent coach helping him, I think Jared can be more consistently good than Murray.
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If I had to choose between them I'd take Murray and run rollouts and formations with extra spacing in the linemen to give him run lanes. He's an arrogant fuck of a player but Goff's tendency to shit his pants in the crunch time is not something I'd want to deal with.
 
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Merlin said:
If I had to choose between them I'd take Murray and run rollouts and formations with extra spacing in the linemen to give him run lanes. He's an arrogant fuck of a player but Goff's tendency to shit his pants in the crunch time is not something I'd want to deal with.
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But you are assuming Murray is mature enough to study. McVay wouldn't put up with that bullshyte
 
Merlin said:
If I had to choose between them I'd take Murray and run rollouts and formations with extra spacing in the linemen to give him run lanes. He's an arrogant fuck of a player but Goff's tendency to shit his pants in the crunch time is not something I'd want to deal with.
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Murray sure shit his pants in the biggest game of his life.
 
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Loyal said:
But you are assuming Murray is mature enough to study. McVay wouldn't put up with that bullshyte
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McVay would bootleg and misdirection you to death with Murray. He'd make him a star. And you can bet he'd study if he had come into the league under Sean.
 
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www.foxnews.com

'Trash' Kyler Murray 'plays like a high school player,' former All-Pro running back says

Kyler Murray certainly has a playing style that is new in the NFL, but LeSean McCoy is not a fan of it, calling Murray "trash, overrated" and "overhyped."
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'Trash' Kyler Murray 'plays like a high school player,' former All-Pro running back says​

Kyler Murray has the ability to turn heads every time he touches the football.

In one play in Week 2, he scrambled over 80 yards in an eventually successful two-point conversion.

But in the eyes of former running back LeSean McCoy, his playing style is not conducive to NFL success.

"He plays like a high school player," McCoy said on the "I Am Athlete" Podcast. "Runs around, runs backward, he does a circle, the ballerina circle, then goes left, goes right, turns all the way around again, then looks for a wide receiver. That's not how you play quarterback."

The two-time First-Team All-Pro selection added that Murray is "trash, overrated, overhyped."

McCoy won a Super Bowl with Patrick Mahomes, who is elite in all facets, but arguably more so than Murray, can go viral with his unscripted plays.

But when asked to compare the two, McCoy wanted no part of it.

"He ain't Mahomes. Let me tell you about Mahomes real quick: the majority of Mahomes' passes are timing. Third step, hit, boom, ball's out. Fifth step, boom, ball's out. Now sometimes he goes off script, we all can do that... not every pass! Every pass, (Murray is) holding the ball, 'Let's make a miracle.' Every game he's played. Watch him play. It's really embarrassing, to be honest. Like, who's coaching this kid?"

Murray was a heavy topic of conversation in the offseason when there was a clause in his contract that said he had to study more film. That was rescinded after public backlash, but the two-time Super Bowl champion says the Cardinals quarterback needs to hit the playbooks more.

"He ain't reading no coverages," McCoy said, noting that Murray relies too much on athletic ability rather than football IQ. "When a quarterback is running around like that all day, all night, all game, that's because he's not reading any coverages."

The Cards are 1-2 on the year, but their one win came when Murray led them from down 20-0 at halftime to an overtime win in Las Vegas against the Raiders, the same game with the 80+ scramble for two points.

Murray is in his fourth season in the NFL and is 23-25-1 as a starter, leading Arizona to the playoffs in 2020 and making two Pro Bowls.
 
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CGI_Ram said:
:laugh4:

www.foxnews.com

'Trash' Kyler Murray 'plays like a high school player,' former All-Pro running back says

Kyler Murray certainly has a playing style that is new in the NFL, but LeSean McCoy is not a fan of it, calling Murray "trash, overrated" and "overhyped."
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

'Trash' Kyler Murray 'plays like a high school player,' former All-Pro running back says​

Kyler Murray has the ability to turn heads every time he touches the football.

In one play in Week 2, he scrambled over 80 yards in an eventually successful two-point conversion.

But in the eyes of former running back LeSean McCoy, his playing style is not conducive to NFL success.

"He plays like a high school player," McCoy said on the "I Am Athlete" Podcast. "Runs around, runs backward, he does a circle, the ballerina circle, then goes left, goes right, turns all the way around again, then looks for a wide receiver. That's not how you play quarterback."

The two-time First-Team All-Pro selection added that Murray is "trash, overrated, overhyped."

McCoy won a Super Bowl with Patrick Mahomes, who is elite in all facets, but arguably more so than Murray, can go viral with his unscripted plays.

But when asked to compare the two, McCoy wanted no part of it.

"He ain't Mahomes. Let me tell you about Mahomes real quick: the majority of Mahomes' passes are timing. Third step, hit, boom, ball's out. Fifth step, boom, ball's out. Now sometimes he goes off script, we all can do that... not every pass! Every pass, (Murray is) holding the ball, 'Let's make a miracle.' Every game he's played. Watch him play. It's really embarrassing, to be honest. Like, who's coaching this kid?"

Murray was a heavy topic of conversation in the offseason when there was a clause in his contract that said he had to study more film. That was rescinded after public backlash, but the two-time Super Bowl champion says the Cardinals quarterback needs to hit the playbooks more.

"He ain't reading no coverages," McCoy said, noting that Murray relies too much on athletic ability rather than football IQ. "When a quarterback is running around like that all day, all night, all game, that's because he's not reading any coverages."

The Cards are 1-2 on the year, but their one win came when Murray led them from down 20-0 at halftime to an overtime win in Las Vegas against the Raiders, the same game with the 80+ scramble for two points.

Murray is in his fourth season in the NFL and is 23-25-1 as a starter, leading Arizona to the playoffs in 2020 and making two Pro Bowls.
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He ain’t wrong - though any push to get Kyler to play from the pocket will force him to fail
 
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CGI_Ram said:
:laugh4:

www.foxnews.com

'Trash' Kyler Murray 'plays like a high school player,' former All-Pro running back says

Kyler Murray certainly has a playing style that is new in the NFL, but LeSean McCoy is not a fan of it, calling Murray "trash, overrated" and "overhyped."
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

'Trash' Kyler Murray 'plays like a high school player,' former All-Pro running back says​

Kyler Murray has the ability to turn heads every time he touches the football.

In one play in Week 2, he scrambled over 80 yards in an eventually successful two-point conversion.

But in the eyes of former running back LeSean McCoy, his playing style is not conducive to NFL success.

"He plays like a high school player," McCoy said on the "I Am Athlete" Podcast. "Runs around, runs backward, he does a circle, the ballerina circle, then goes left, goes right, turns all the way around again, then looks for a wide receiver. That's not how you play quarterback."

The two-time First-Team All-Pro selection added that Murray is "trash, overrated, overhyped."

McCoy won a Super Bowl with Patrick Mahomes, who is elite in all facets, but arguably more so than Murray, can go viral with his unscripted plays.

But when asked to compare the two, McCoy wanted no part of it.

"He ain't Mahomes. Let me tell you about Mahomes real quick: the majority of Mahomes' passes are timing. Third step, hit, boom, ball's out. Fifth step, boom, ball's out. Now sometimes he goes off script, we all can do that... not every pass! Every pass, (Murray is) holding the ball, 'Let's make a miracle.' Every game he's played. Watch him play. It's really embarrassing, to be honest. Like, who's coaching this kid?"

Murray was a heavy topic of conversation in the offseason when there was a clause in his contract that said he had to study more film. That was rescinded after public backlash, but the two-time Super Bowl champion says the Cardinals quarterback needs to hit the playbooks more.

"He ain't reading no coverages," McCoy said, noting that Murray relies too much on athletic ability rather than football IQ. "When a quarterback is running around like that all day, all night, all game, that's because he's not reading any coverages."

The Cards are 1-2 on the year, but their one win came when Murray led them from down 20-0 at halftime to an overtime win in Las Vegas against the Raiders, the same game with the 80+ scramble for two points.

Murray is in his fourth season in the NFL and is 23-25-1 as a starter, leading Arizona to the playoffs in 2020 and making two Pro Bowls.
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The two-time First-Team All-Pro selection added that Murray is "trash, overrated, overhyped."
I have said this from the very beginning. Luckily for us, his stupid ass team is mesmerized and intimidated by him. They now are stuck and the Rams have 1 less team in the division to worry about.
 
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Merlin said:
If I had to choose between them I'd take Murray and run rollouts and formations with extra spacing in the linemen to give him run lanes. He's an arrogant fuck of a player but Goff's tendency to shit his pants in the crunch time is not something I'd want to deal with.
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Murray would be a great QB for McVay for 8 games but after playing 8 games his legs will give out and he would suck

I don't call him 8 game Murray for nothing.
 
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