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How Do You Handle Big Hav's Return?

Fisher said big Hav will be out for next couple weeks. Hav was probably our best lineman last year, but the current starting unit looks like it's gelling.

The starting line composition of Robinson, Wichman, Barnes, Brown, and Saffold played well against the Cowboys and has played together all training camp. With Hav probably not coming back until the end of camp do you mix it up or not try to fix a thing that's working.

Photo's from Pre-Season Game #1!!

I just thought I'd throw these out here for your enjoyment, in case you haven't seen them, and other's, on the Rams Official Site!
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Peter King: MMQB - 8/15/16

These are only excerpts from this article. To read the whole thing click the link below.
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On Camps, Preseason Games and a Linebacker by the Pool
Ray Lewis explains the relationship he has with Michael Phelps after the Olympian’s gold-medal walkoff in Rio. Plus football galore, including Dak Prescott, Antonio Brown, Teddy Bridgewater and our Book of the Week
By Peter King

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Headlines from games

• Best rookie of the weekend: Dak Prescott. The quarterback chosen 84 picks after Christian Hackenberg in the draft, starting for Dallas against the Rams, took the air out of the L.A. Coliseum. He piloted the Cowboys to 80- and 75-yard touchdown drives on his first two series as a pro, completed 10 of 12 passes playing the entire first half (the two incompletions were catchable misses by Geoff Swaim) for 139 yards, two touchdowns and no picks.

“He was extremely calm,” said Dez Bryant of Prescott. “He’s not playing like a rookie. He’s very good.” Expect the Cowboys to troll the waiver wire for a veteran backup for Romo late this month, but Prescott’s play in camp and in this game takes some of the urgency away for having to overpay for one.

• Dirk Koetter’s not going to stand for the same old Bucs. Tampa Bay was lousy in a loss to Philadelphia, and Koetter made it clear the Bucs don’t have the luxury to say, “It’s only a preseason game.” Smart by him; he can’t afford to let bad habits fester. “Horrendous start. Fumble the opening kickoff, missed extra point, you just can't do it. Not what I had in mind for the start,” he said.

• The Titans aren’t hiding anything. Smartest words in any preseason: Ignore the games. Not so in Tennessee. The Titans on Saturday night showed precisely what GM Jon Robinson and coach Mike Mularkey built this team to be. DeMarco Murray and Heisman winner Derrick Henry rushed 16 times for 167 yards—by halftime—in a win over San Diego. There may be 31 other teams that will throw more than run this year, and Tennessee actually might make it 32. But that will only happen if the Titans are behind consistently in the second half. This is a stop-us-if-you-can run team.

• Speaking of running games … Eddie Lacy carried the ball on the first four snaps of the Green Bay preseason. No accident. As Mike McCarty told me early in camp: “We have to get back to who we are. I know Aaron [Rodgers] is a great player. But all along, we’ve made sure, year after year, that we can run. And we will run.”

• I wouldn’t overreact to the Carson Wentz injury. The second pick in the draft suffered a cracked rib on a hard hit against Tampa Bay, which will set back his progress. I watched every throw he made, and the hit that hurt him, and it was encouraging to see his adjustment from FBS to the NFL, and there’s no way I’d tell him to change how he plays because it’s a preseason game. What got him drafted is his mobility, his smarts out of the pocket, his decision-making on the run. He’s got to play like that to be who he is.

• RG3: meh. Terrelle Pryor: good. Look who’s the number one receiver on the Browns (for now). It’s former Ohio State and Raiders quarterback Pryor, who, you may recall, was drafted by the Raiders when Hue Jackson was the coach. Now Jackson’s got him again, and is lining him up with the ones. Pryor could start opposite rookie Corey Coleman in a roster full of young wideouts in Week 1.

As for Robert Griffin III, he threw an end-zone interception in his first game in brown. We’ll give him time, of course, but Griffin cannot afford to be mediocre this summer. Jackson will not stand for mediocrity long.

• It’s only Aug. 15, and already the Bills are a M*A*S*H unit. News came Sunday that pugnacious linebacker I.K. Enemkpali has been lost for the year with a torn ACL, joining projected starting linebacker Reggie Ragland (ACL) as out for the season. First-round pick Shaq Lawson is out for at least another month after offseason shoulder surgery. Enemkpali was going to start outside while Lawson rehabbed, and now the Bills have to go to Plan C. A bad omen for a team that might have to make the playoffs to give Rex Ryan a third season in 2017.

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Coolest inside football sight I’ve seen on this trip

LATROBE, Pa. — “You two play nice, now.”

These were not the words from a dad to his two petulant children. This was said by NFL head linesman Derick Bowers, standing 15 feet from a looming duel between all-world receiver Antonio Brown and Detroit cornerback Darius Slay, directed at Brown and Slay. Bowers was working the joint practice between the two teams last Tuesday, and whoever came to his side of the field, if he had something to say in terms of advice or caution, he was free with it.

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Photo: Peter King/The MMQB

The two men left the line, jousted for the first five or seven yards, and Slay quick-grabbed Brown’s jersey deep down the left side. But no flag. Bowers, however, did talk to both on their way back to the line.

“It helps to have officials in a practice-like setting, because you get a feel for the game with how those guys are looking at it, how those guys are officiating,” Brown said after practice. “I don’t talk much with them but it’s always good to hear their opinions on some of the techniques I’m trying to use and some of the things they think are good or bad. We want to know what they’ll call.”

On the sidelines, next to Bowers, was NFL vice president of officiating Dean Blandino, on site to talk with Walt Coleman’s crew and to monitor the 2016 points of emphasis. “Anytime we can prevent fouls, we want to encourage it,” Blandino said. “I like that [“play nice”] positive messaging. But that doesn’t take the place of throwing flags if there’s a foul to be called.”

I first noticed how much officials talk to players in my 2013 Week in the Life of an Officiating Crew series, particularly with head linesman Wayne Mackie’s open dialog with the linemen on his side. What’s interesting about this, I believe, is that sometimes officials will warn players about fouls, maybe even give them a second warning, and then flag it.

In one case I heard a head linesman tell a team’s left tackle twice he was fanned off the line too much (sometimes tackles cheat back a half or full step), and finally the head linesman told the coach the tackle had been warned twice, and this was the final warning. “Then flag him,” the coach said. And on the next snap, the tackle got flagged, and the offense was set back five yards for an illegal formation.

One other interesting ref thing from Steeler camp: One of the points of emphasis this year involves the center and the football. Often, defenders have jumped offside when they see the center move the ball suddenly without snapping it, or they see the center high-pointing the football as though he’s preparing the snap it. So now, this year, centers have to keep the ball still before the snap. Not necessarily stock-still. But still. On this day, Pittsburgh center Maurkice Pouncey was warned by one of Walt Coleman’s officials in camp: “Be careful—that might have been a call.”

Said Pouncey: “It’s something we’ve got to get used to as centers. You’re out there trying to communicate a lot and moving around maybe signaling and maybe the play gets changed and you’re trying to communicate with your guys and they want, as soon as the ball’s set the refs don’t want it to move. So, we’ve got to practice throughout camp, stay tough on it and just make sure we’re not drawing the defense offside.”

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Five more NFL items of interest

1. Whoa: One owner compares emotion of “Gleason” to “Schindler’s List.” Atlanta owner Arthur Blank rented out a theater and invited staff and partners to see the documentary about former Saints special-teamer Steve Gleason’s painful/inspirational tale of living with ALS. “The only movie I remember the same reaction at the end from the audience was ‘Schindler’s List,’” Blank saidSaturday, still sounding moved over what he’d seen. “The movie ended, and everyone just sat there. You could hear a pin drop. Then someone clapped, and the whole theater was clapping.” Kudos to Blank, who donated $100,000 to the Gleason Initiative Foundation to fight ALS. And kudos to the many other teams that had screenings in their home markets and encouraged people to see the documentary.

It’s a speck on life’s spectrum, but it’s notable that Gleason was made famous as a football player for blocking a punt against Atlanta in the first game post-Katrina in the Superdome, and the owner of the Falcons is out-front with support for the cause. “We all love this incredible game,” Blank said. “But it is a game. It is not life. I support Steve and this film because of the powerful message it sends: Don’t give up. Persevere. Be resilient. Make a difference. This film touches every human emotion—humor, sadness, tragedy, inspiration. It will affect the lives of thousands. That’s why we all need to get behind it.”

2. This is why I like Mike Tomlin.It’s insane to question the qualifications and résumé of Tomlin, who owns a better career winning percentage than Chuck Noll or Bill Cowher. But some fans in Pittsburgh do. Go to Pittsburgh after a tough late loss, and you’ll hear more than just grumbling. You’ll hear how many people want Coach X to run this team instead of Tomlin. The other day in Latrobe, I wondered if it was just the coarseness of sports fans, and whether it ever got to Tomlin.

“We’re in a time of sports as entertainment,” Tomlin said, “and certain things come with that. I don’t coach with that entertainment mentality, but I understand that there are certain elements of this game that are entertainment, and there are entertainment-like things that come with it. Like, at times, lack of human decency. I don’t take it personal, and I encourage our guys not to take it personal. You live somewhat public lives when you participate in football at this level and there are things that come with it. These people [fans] don’t know you.

There’s a certain callous approach that comes with that. If you’re taking it personal, all you’re doing is limiting the amount of fun you’re having.” But, I said, do you ever hear it? And does it bug you? Said Tomlin: “It’s elevator music to me. I hear it, and I don’t. Those people aren’t decision-makers, so why should I worry about their opinions? I mean I appreciate that they’re passionate; their level of passion is one of the things that makes this game what it is.”

Interview interlude:
Tomlin, smiling: “But on a personal level, I lose a lot of sleep because of what individuals say about me.”
Me: “You’re a big liar.”
Tomlin: “I don’t give a crap!”


3. “Maybe I should call you Gunslinger.”That’s what Minnesota coach Mike Zimmer said to Teddy Bridgewater, his third-year quarterback, one day at practice this summer. I saw it the other day in Cincinnati, when the Vikings were practicing against the Bengals. Bridgewater threw three straight perfect balls downfield, one a 32-yard fade down the left sideline, perfectly nestled into the arms of Stefon Diggs, just over the hands of Adam Jones. Visiting camps, I’m a prisoner of the moment; for all I know, Bridgewater threw three incompletions downfield of the same length the previous day.

But what I saw was very strong, and the Vikings, rightly or wrongly, believe they’ll be able to take advantage this year against teams that load the box to stop Adrian Peterson on early downs. Guard Alex Boone, who ran afoul of authority in San Francisco for his blunt speaking, told me about Bridgewater: “Never sad. Never pissed. His attitude’s always, ‘If something’s wrong, I’ll fix it. I’ll make it right.’ Very humble. At first, I thought it was fake. But I’ve been around long enough now to know it isn’t.”

4. It’s a big week at the Pro Football Hall of Fame. On Monday in Canton, the Seniors Committee—a sub-group of the 46-person Hall of Fame selection team—meets to pick one nominee to be voted on the day before Super Bowl 51. The field is wide open, from what I’ve heard—as it should be. And Tuesday, the Contributors Committee meets in Canton to pick two nominees for the class of 2017. These three people will have their cases heard before the committee of 46, and each needs at least 80 percent of the vote to be enshrined.

(This is different than the 15 modern-era finalists, who compete against each other to be cut down to five, and then are voted yay or nay, with 80 percent needed for enshrinement.) Regarding the Contributors: Some strong candidates this year, including Bobby Beathard, a great scout and later the architect for Washington’s great teams, and the San Diego Super Bowl team; owner Pat Bowlen, who oversaw the franchise with the best winning percentage of the last 32 years in Denver, and was crucial in TV advancements in the league; Gil Brandt, Mr. Football, a vital cog to the NFL machine for 55 years, still doing it today at 83;

Dallas owner Jerry Jones, the most influential owner on league and business matters in the last 25 years, and three times a Super Bowl winner; Bucko Kilroy, one of the greatest scouts ever; Art McNally, the father of modern officiating; Steve Sabol, who made NFL Films such a powerful media entity and sold the gospel of the NFL; Paul Tagliabue, the 17-year commissioner, who grew the league and never had a work stoppage under his watch;

John Wooten, a player, scout and leader in the movement to advance the cause of African-American coaches and general managers; and George Young, who sternly but diplomatically turned around the fortunes of the woebegone Giants 37 years ago. The two meetings will be interesting. I’ll be in the second one, Tuesday, as one of the voters whittling the list from 10 to two.

5. Bruce DeHaven, one of the best special-teams coaches ever, takes a leave to deal with cancer. You may remember my column a year ago on DeHaven, told he had three to five years to live, and he chose to spend at least one of them coaching Carolina’s special teams … and, by the way, helping the Panthers get to the Super Bowl. I got so much reaction from that column, particularly this quote from DeHaven, about why he’d spend one of his waning years doing a job rather staying at home. “I love coaching. I just do. I love teaching football. There’s a story I need to tell you. I grew up in Kansas, a farm kid. And I got to be a high school coach, and in 1976, the team I coached in Wichita went to Kansas City and won the state championship.

So we’re headed home to Wichita after the game on a yellow school bus, and everyone’s so happy, and I’m happy we won, of course. But part of me was so sad. The season’s over. I don’t get to coach these kids I love to coach on Monday. It’s over. So it’s the coaching, the teaching, the process. That’s what I love. From life on the farm to the NFL … I mean, are you kidding me? Coaching in the Super Bowl? With Hall of Fame coaches? Marv Levy, Bill Parcells. My gosh, I understand what Lou Gehrig said. I honestly feel it. I am the luckiest man on the face of the earth.”

And so DeHaven left the Panther earlier this month. He’ll have another scan of his prostate Thursday to see about the progress or lack thereof of his disease. “Bruce felt now was the opportunity for us to transition,” said coach Ron Rivera. Special-teams assistant Thomas McGaughey takes the job. I only hope one day DeHaven is well enough to take it back. Godspeed to him.

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Final camp week, and it’s way out west

The van is put away...

...and now we’re onto the airplane portion of the training camp trip. The week ahead:

Today: Seahawks practice, Renton, Wash.

Tuesday: Pro Football Hall of Fame Contributors Committee voting, Canton, Ohio.

Wednesday: Cowboys practice, Oxnard, Calif.

Thursday: 49ers-Broncos joint practice, Denver

Friday: Cardinals-Chargers preseason game, San Diego.

Saturday morning: Raiders practice, Alameda, Calif.

Saturday night: Chiefs-Rams preseason game, Los Angeles. (As you can see, I mostly overlooked the Rams' return to Los Angeles in this column, mostly because I planned to be in L.A. the following week. So I'll write about the return next week.)

Sunday, Monday: Cardinals practice, Glendale, Ariz.

You might ask: How are you going to get from the West Coast to Canton, and back to the West Coast, and miss only one day of practice? Are you insane? I don’t know. And yes.

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Quotes of the Week

“He could pull off .220 in the big leagues right now, without doing anything else, simply because his swing’s really, really good and his mental toughness is flat-out off the charts.”

—Baseball instructor and former big-leaguer Chad Moeller, who has been tutoring Tim Tebow as Tebow attempts to switch careers to baseball and play in the major leagues one day, to Tyler Kepner of the New York Times.

First: Good for Tebow. Love people who follow their dreams, against the odds.

Second: Tebow’s 29th birthday was Sunday. The last time he played baseball on a team was 11 years ago, as a junior in high school. Chad Moeller’s telling me right now that Tim Tebow, training at baseball for parts of the past two-and-a-half months, can regularly go one-for-five against Felix Hernandez, Steven Matz, Rick Porcello, someone’s fifth starter, whoever … right now?

Entering Sunday, the following successful major-league players were within 10 points of a .220 batting average: Todd Frazier, Chris Davis, Curtis Granderson, Russell Martin, Colby Rasmus.

I’m all in favor of Tim Tebow following his dreams, for a long time. And compared to Chad Moeller, my baseball knowledge would fit in a thimble. But “he could pull off .220 in the big leagues right now” seems a fairly ridiculous statement.

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Factoids of the Week That May Interest Only Me

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In his past 11 coaching seasons, Los Angeles coach Jeff Fisher has had two winning seasons and no playoff wins. Adam Schefter reported that Fisher is on the verge of signing a new contract with the Rams.

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Nine Things I Think I Think

1. I think this Joey Bosa holdout—now in day 17, the longest holdout in the NFL since the new CBA was signed in 2011—is not worth the impact it’s having and the message it’s sending to Chargers fans. How can you hope to get the local fan base enthused enough to vote overwhelmingly for a new stadium when the player you drafted to invigorate your pass-rush is sitting at home? Poor optics, not to mention a bad idea for the football team.

2. I think three things about the Denver quarterback situation:

a. My money’s on Trevor Siemian to start the second preseason game for Denver. Gary Kubiak would be wise to do that, in my opinion. When you’re pretty sure Mark Sanchez is a stopgap guy at best, why not give a kid you’re fascinated with three series with the first-unit offense? I watched Siemian the other night play the second quarter in Chicago, and his first four throws, one downfield, were right on target. He deserves three or four series with the first team, with the job on the line.

b. Paxton Lynch will be the starter at some point this year unless Siemian or Sanchez plays lights out.

c. Still think John Elway would prefer this quarterback situation rather than Brock Osweiler at $18-million-per-year after seven NFL starts.

3. I think I said I would answer a question about why Tony Dungy is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, from a Twitter follower. Why would a coach with the 22nd-most wins, and a 9-10 playoff record, be in the Hall? A few thoughts. His 10.7 wins per season is best in NFL history. His teams made the playoffs a record 10 straight years. He’s the first African-American to coach a Super Bowl winner. He was the force behind the change of the Cover-2 defense to the Tampa-2 (which some teams adopted), which put athletic linebackers in coverage deeper downfield as passing games loosened up against safeties playing deep.

Then there’s the final part of it. Some would say this shouldn’t matter, because we’re asked to consider by the Hall only what happens between the white lines. When Dungy first came up for election, I asked Hall rules maestro Joe Horrigan about whether we should consider the African-American part of this. Not because Dungy is black. But because of all the coaches he has influenced, and the coaches he has led into the profession; in the year I’ve worked alongside Dungy at NBC, I have heard the phone conversations between Dungy and coaches at all levels.

He has been a beacon for black coaches, and in my opinion that should count for the Hall. Now, one other point: Many of you wonder about Tom Flores and his two Super Bowl titles. I have answered this quite a few times, but my point on Flores is this: 12 years coached, six winning seasons, 39th all time with 95 regular-season wins, and 14-34 away as a coach away from Oakland. The two Super Bowls are meaningful. But to me, the body of work isn’t there.

4. I think of all the good deeds that happened in the NFL in the past week, none was better than what the Cardinals, led by president Michael Bidwill, did for the University of Arizona football team. After U of A offensive lineman Zach Hemmila was found dead Monday morning, and after the team’s practice field was partially washed away by a flash flood in Tucson, the Cardinals offered the use of their facilities 115 miles north, in Tempe. Not only did the Cardinals open their doors, they also stenciled the end zone with the university’s ARIZONA logo, put up “Bear Down” signs (the Wildcats’ slogan), took all the stuff out of their players’ lockers so the Arizona players could have places to dress for two days and, well, I’ll let Arizona coach Rich Rodriguez tell the story.

“They lined the field with our hashmarks, the college hashmarks!” Rodriguez said, incredulously, from Tempe after one of their practices the other day. “Everything they did for us was done to make us feel at home in a pretty tough time for our players. They did this while they were in training camp—it’s not like it was the off-season for them. To me, this is how a professional sports organization should aspire to be.” It is not just helping a state neighbor in need. It is kindness, human kindness. Bidwill and the Cardinals deserve credit for all of it.

5. I think the Lions caught a very big break with Eric Ebron not tearing his Achilles. He’s likely to be healthy enough to start the season, I’m told. Boy, does Matthew Stafford need him.

6. I think you can like Jim Caldwell if you’re a Lions’ fan or not like him, but it’s a very good sign that the rookie GM of the Lions isn’t putting any ultimatums out right now for Caldwell. It’s always a mistake to say a coach has to win X games, or to make the playoffs, to keep his job, because you simply can’t tell what tornados hit your team once the season starts.

“There no mandate on the number of wins,” GM Bob Quinn told me in Latrobe the other day. “There’s no mandate on making the playoffs. What we’re looking for is improvement, from the first week of camp to the end of the season.” One other thing: The less you say in August, the less you have to take back in January.

7. I think this might be why Antonio Brown is good (or, at least a contributing factor): Look at this photo I took of Brown at Steeler camp last week. It’s a shot of him catching balls from the JUGGS machine after practice. Nothing surprising there; players do it all the time at camp after practice. But in two-plus weeks of camp tours, I must say I didn’t see anyone do it for 20 or 25 minutes, as Brown did, and then follow it up with a personal assistant shadowing him downfield and yanking his jersey as the ball came.

“The point of the routine is to catch a lot of balls,” Brown said. “I catch about 130 balls from all angles, all directions, one hand or two. I catch all these balls because maybe I didn’t catch a lot in practice, and it’s about developing good catching habits. I try to catch a lot of balls on throws I didn’t get today.”

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8. I think my one other JUGGS story from my travels is sort of a NSFW story. In Green Bay, Randall Cobb mishandled one of the fastballs from the machine, and it went through his hands, and hit him in the groin. I mean, smack dab in the groin. As Cobb rolled around on the ground, a voice (either player or coach or equipment guy, I couldn’t say) yelled: “Hope you’ve already had your kids.”

9. I think there’s only one word to describe Lane Johnson—if, as expected, he is suspended for the first 10 games of 2016 for PED use: unreliable. That’s what you call a player who missed one quarter of the first 58 games of his career, which Johnson will do if this suspension happens. Four games in 2014, 10 this year, 14 in all.

What do you want to see in Week 2?

For me, the defense taking a little more pride in themselves. I know it's only preseason, however, they need to use it more as a preparation for the season.

Offensively, if you dropped passes (Thomas) it's the next man's turn to try. I'd like to see Williams get some real playing time. Get Spruce running with the 2's, and Goff with the 1's.

Peyton Manning, the consummate record-breaker, was not always a sure thing

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2015/nov/15/peyton-manning-nfl-passing-yards-record

In an attempt to find Peytons first pre season stats ( something hard to find and not really of any concern to anyone....But Me) I came across this article. Pretty good read.
Highlighted below is his first preseason game stats:


Before all the Super Bowls, the MVPs and the all-time passing-yardage record, which he broke on Sunday afternoon, Peyton Manning threw a touchdown on his first NFL pass. No one should be surprised it went to his favorite target: Marvin Harrison.

This was in the summer of 1998, and as brilliant as it was, the touchdown did not count – not officially, anyway – since it came on the first drive of the Indianapolis Colts’ first pre-season game that summer. But because his first official pass completion was an unremarkable 15-yard throw to running back Marshall Faulk in the regular-season opener against Miami, the pre-season pass is the one people tend to remember, if for no other reason than it was the perfect launching point for his career.

“I know what Peyton was thinking: ‘It’s pretty easy – I throw my first pass for a touchdown,’” the Colts coach at the time, Jim Mora, later told ESPN.

If only it was. While the Manning touchdown was big news just four months after he was the first pick in the NFL draft, he was not a certain superstar. Many weren’t sure he was the right choice for the Colts. Some critics called him a system quarterback who only thrived in the controlled offense at the University of Tennessee. Others wondered if he darted too quickly from pass rushers to keep from being hit. A lot of scouts and draft analysts thought Ryan Leaf, the quarterback that the San Diego Chargers took right behind Manning, was the better selection.

Manning’s first season was not filled with long scores and passes thrown with laser-like precision into his receivers’ hands. He led the league with 28 interceptions in 1998 – the only time in his career he had more interceptions than touchdowns. It wasn’t until his third year that he really blossomed, even as the Colts had already started winning big. And yet even in the struggles of 1998 there were plenty of signs that greatness was coming. His first pass was one of those.


It happened on a Saturday evening in early August. The Colts flew to Seattle the day before for their first pre-season game. At the time, the hype for Manning was overwhelming. Everybody, it seemed, wanted something from the draft’s top pick. Craig Kelley, the team’s public relations director at the time, got so many requests from reports to speak to Manning he faxed them piles of quotes the quarterback had given that summer. The fax ran 40 pages long.

The Seahawks even asked Kelley to see if Manning could attend a formal function the organization held the night before the game. Kelly laughs as he remembers the request: “Like he was going to put on a tux and go to a formal on the night before his first professional game,” he told the Guardian. “We quickly dismissed that.”

When the game started, the Colts had the ball on a third down and short on Seattle’s 48-yard line. The Seahawks blitzed, Manning saw it, took two steps back from center, jumped slightly in his shoes, and flicked a pass to Harrison sprinting in from the right. Harrison caught it on the 40 and raced past cornerback Shawn Springs and safety Eric Stokes, then straight down the field untouched for a 48-yard touchdown.

Manning raised his hands over his head and then jogged off the field.

“When you get Marvin the ball, good things happen,” he told reporters after the game.

Still, much like that first year, Manning’s first pre-season game was not a great success. He finished 8-15 for 115 yards while playing the whole first half. “He didn’t play good enough, there’s no question about it,” Mora said that night. Accounts of that night were actually more favorable to Leaf who led the Chargers to a 21-0 halftime lead over San Francisco when he left his first exhibition game.

“Manning looked more like a backup than the No1 draft pick. Leaf, the No2 draft pick, looked like he’s ready to step in,” read the next day’s Associated Press story.


Which is why pre-season games don’t count. While Manning had his problems his rookie year, he still took every one of the Colts’ snaps and threw for 3,739 yards and 26 touchdowns. Leaf threw only two touchdowns, was intercepted 15 times and lost his starting job in mid-November. Three years later, he was out of the league.

“Peyton had some difficulties. Every rookie quarterback does in terms of getting used to the speed of the game and sophistication of the defenses and chemistry of working with the receivers,” Bill Polian, the Colts general manager who drafted Manning and ran the team his whole time in Indianapolis, told the Guardian. “That was to be expected.”

One thing Polian and the rest of the organization learned early on was that Manning was obsessive about preparation, more obsessive than any player they had ever seen. When the quarterback met the teams’ coaches and executives for a 20-minute meeting at the previous winter’s draft combine, he came with a notepad and spent the whole session grilling them rather than them questioning him.

Since they weren’t going to improve over 1997’s 3-13 season and came to understand that Manning wasn’t comfortable unless he had worked on a play countless times, they gave him nearly 90% of the passes in practice. Normally, a starting quarterback will take somewhere around 70% of the repetitions or reps with the backup getting the rest, but the Colts were determined to get Manning as acclimated as he needed to be. Ultimately, he wound up practicing against both Indianapolis’s first and second team defenses and taking every rep during seven on seven and team drills.

“With guys like that, you always know they will work hard,” says Polian, who is now an analyst on ESPN. “In his case the biggest way to help him was to back off, relax and make sure we see the forest through the trees. Don’t lose sight of the objective.”

Externally, the pressure on Manning was immense. The Colts were still reeling from the 1983 draft, when they took John Elway with the first pick even after Elway vowed never to play for them. They traded Elway to Denver where he became a superstar and the Colts – then in Baltimore – searched the next 15 years for a franchise quarterback. So essential was it for the Colts to get the new quarterback right, the team’s owner Jim Irsay flew to New York to turn in the pick himself, something owners never do

Late in that first season, Manning started to show significant improvement. Polian remembers well a time in that final stretch when Manning and Harrison miscommunicated on a play just before game’s end costing the Colts a chance to win. Afterward, he found both players in the locker room and told them the same thing would not happen the next season because they would have had an offseason to prepare.

Sure enough, Manning and Harrison worked out every day at the Colts facility in early 1999. Back then there were no restrictions on the time when players can work with coaches so the rookie quarterback threw 200 passes to the third-year receiver each morning for weeks. And they did get better. The next year, Indianapolis went 13-3 and made the postseason.

“His head wasn’t spinning that first year but he was nowhere near as confident as he became,” Polian says.

The season was a success despite Manning leading the league in interceptions. He wasn’t as effective as he became a few years later, but he gave many indications that someday he would become a star. The Colts knew early they had chosen wisely in picking Manning over Leaf. They must have known he was the right choice when he looked at Irsay in the days before the draft and said, according to Kelley: “If you draft me, I will win for you. If you don’t, I will whip your tail.”

And if it wasn’t clear then, it was in the first exhibition game on the first play when he hit Harrison for a touchdown on the first professional throw he ever made.

Plex Server Sharing: Throwing Out an Idea

Mods please delete if not allowed!

So for the past few months, I've been renting a dedicated server to stream content to friends and family via Plex. What is Plex you ask? Plex is an application that can be installed as a server or client. It's purpose is to stream/cast content from the server to various clients; smart tv's, smart phones, tablets, other pc's, game consoles, etc. The awesome thing is that the service itself is free, and the mobile/tablet/pc client apps are really cheap ($5 bucks). Streaming to an Xbox One, Playstation 4, some smart TV's and via a web browser are all free!

Right now I have a server that I'm not using and wanted to gauge the interest of my fellow RoD brothers. Would any of you be interested in getting access to my media content? There currently isn't much media on this server but I can get it filled QUICKLY (6 TB of disk space). You could even ask for a specific movie/tv show and, more than likely, I could get it on the server within minutes...and in most cases, in 1080p. The server itself is on a gigabit line and has enough processing power to serve multiple streams at once.

The speed of your internet connection will dictate the quality of the content you're requesting (you can adjust quality settings via Plex [720p, 1080p, bitrate, etc..]). Now, since the server doesn't run cheap and I'm not asking for anything in return, please understand that it is at my discretion to shut down/cancel the server at anytime. I'll do my best to let you guys know in advance.

If enough users express interest we can get this going! If this goes through, I'll definitely have to create a topic in our Members Only forum. Also open to hearing any suggestions and answering any questions!
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What's the Deal with Isaiah Battle?

Why isn't he playing? Is he in the doghouse or just that bad?
By Sean Wilkinson @Papa_Lurch Aug 14, 2016, 6:03p

Most of the players who didn't play yesterday were not noteworthy. But there is one name that is a bit more concerning.


After selecting Battle in the 5th round of the 2015 supplemental draft - using their 2016 5th round pick - and making him the highest paid practice squad player in the NFL, there has been silence on the Battle front (sorry for the bad pun... I couldn't resist).



Then there's this from a press conference after an ugly 37-13 W loss to the Bearsin Week 10 last season.


(On bringing T Isaiah Battle up to the active roster)

"From a conditioning standpoint and a lower body strength and overall strength standpoint, he’s much further ahead than he was when he got here. He wasn’t in good shape when he got here for obvious reasons, of supplemental and so we had to get him in shape. He’s done a really good job in the weight room. He has a much better feel for what we’re doing. He’s got really long arms. He’s athletic. So, I spoke with him today. He’s a snap away from playing."
"He’s a snap away from playing."..........

So why didn't he play, coach? Battle ended the 2015 season as a member of the 53 man roster, yet there were a handful of players not around last year that played instead of Battle.

So what gives? Is it an unannounced injury? Poor play? The infamous Jeff Fisher dog house? Jedi mind tricks?

Given the status he enjoys from the front office you'd think that he would play before the likes of Jordan Swindle and Pace Murphy.

Even if Fisher plans to store him on the practice squad for another season, that still begs the question of why he isn't getting...yanno.....practice.

http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2016/8...s-preseason-isaiah-battle-why-no-playing-time

Getting excited for our passing game!

I mean, our passing game last year was a joke. Hitches all day at the line of scrimmage. Maybe an occasional go route or a comeback, often off play-action. How nice to see two posts being run on the Cooper drop from Goff. Or backs not even releasing but actually running routes out of the backfield.

Even if Spruce snags a starting spot in 11 personnel and with the emergence of Higbee, we desperately need a #1 receiver. That being said, I can't see any way our passing offense isn't better this year.
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Preseason Five Takeaways: Cowboys vs. Rams

Preseason Five Takeaways: Cowboys vs. Rams

By Myles Simmons

[www.therams.com]

The Rams welcomed professional football back to Los Angeles with a rousing preseason matchup against the Cowboys. With an announced crowd of 89,140, the final whistle blew with L.A. on top after a nice 28-24 comeback victory.

Of course, in preseason, the final score is never the whole story. For a better understanding, here are five takeaways from the Rams’ first exhibition matchup.

1) Goff has an up-and-down debut

Aside from the hoopla surrounding the overall return of the NFL to the L.A. Coliseum, much of the intrigue on this game had to do with No. 1 overall pick Jared Goff’s debut. The quarterback entered the game with 9:45 left in the second quarter, playing the rest of the period for his first NFL action.

The first possession ended after only three plays, as the rookie was hit hard from a blitz on third down and threw an interception.

But Goff looked much more comfortable in his next series, especially on his passes to rookie tight end Tyler Higbee. The Cal product went to his fellow rookie three times on the drive, and two of those passes went for first downs. Goff also threw a strike down the middle that would have gotten the Rams in the red zone, but the pass was dropped.

All this despite Goff aggravating his non-throwing shoulder on the hit that induced the interception.

Head coach Jeff Fisher had initially planned on playing Goff playing a couple series into the third quarter, but scrapped that as a precaution at halftime.

“We talked to him and he was getting a little stiff, so I said, ‘I’m not going to mess with it,’” Fisher said.

Sean Mannion played the rest of the game, but both Fisher and Goff said the rookie will be fine going forward.

“I’ve played through much worse,” Goff said.


2) Running backs steal the show

Running backs Benny Cunningham and Malcolm Brown did a fine job of gaining yards and breaking through tackles on Saturday. With Todd Gurley a healthy scratch, Cunningham got the lion’s share of carries in the first two quarters, amassing 23 yards on four carries. He broke through at least three tackles en route to his 14-yard touchdown run. And he also had a 20-yard reception on a screen during the same scoring drive.

“I just feel like the offensive line did a good job the entire game,” Cunningham said. “Those guys have been grinding during camp. I feel like they’re going to be the staple of this offense. And they were just opening up holes. I know every series I was in, it was cake the way those guys were grinding for me.”

Brown did plenty of damage himself as the club’s leading rusher. He had eight carries for 66 yards — including a 39-yard rush in the third quarter that put the Rams in position for their second touchdown.

Running back depth is always important, and if Saturday night is any indication, Los Angeles should be just fine behind Gurley.

3) Higbee, Cooper make early contributions

Dubbed “Little Baby Gronk” by Gurley at Family Day last week, Higbee showed why head coach Jeff Fisher said he could contribute early and often to the Rams’ offense this year. Through three quarters, Higbee led the home team with five receptions for 49 yards. L.A. can use him all over its offensive formations, and he’s shown prowess in both blocking and receiving.

But when he makes a catch and breaks tackles, like he did on a reception from Goff in the second quarter, that’s where he gets the nickname “Little Baby Gronk.”

As for Cooper, the Rams already have two strong return men in Cunningham for kicks and wide receiver Tavon Austin for punts. But Cooper may be making creating a good problem for Los Angeles to have.

Cooper brought back a kickoff return 48 yards in the first quarter to the Los Angeles 41. Then he used his shiftiness to reverse field and bring a punt back 25 yards to the Dallas 33-yard line.

Again, it’s only one preseason game, but those return skills show just one reason why the club was happy to grab Cooper in the fourth round.


4) Spruuuuuuuuuuce

There’s a reason Nelson Spruce became the Pac 12’s all-time leader in receptions.

Spruce has been making catch after catch in training camp. And that certainly translated to the field on Saturday, as Spruce caught led the team with six receptions for 51 yards and a touchdown.

The former Westlake High School star shone bright again in Southern California, as he was one of the main catalysts for the Rams’ second-half comeback. At one point in Los Angeles’ go-ahead scoring drive, Mannion completed three passes in a row to Spruce. The wideout also made a number of tough catches, including a leaping grab that gave the Rams a first down in the red zone.

All that induced some pretty loud "Spruuuuuuuce" chants from the Coliseum crowd.

“I’ve seen that from him throughout OTAs, to tell you the truth,” wide receiver Kenny Britt said. “He’s becoming a young player who’s coming into himself.”

“Nelson’s a guy I trained with, and for us to be on the same team now and to see him do that was really exciting,” Goff said. “I’m really happy for him."

Fisher said Spruce needed X-rays on his knee, postgame, but the issue shouldn’t be anything that should keep him out for a significant amount of time.

“He’s a little sore,” Fisher said. “I think he’s going to be fine.”

Especially considering his performance tonight, Spruce is making an early case for a spot on the 53-man roster.

“We brought him here because we think he’s got a chance to help us win games,” Fisher said. “He’s talented. You look at what he did in college — setting the Pac 12 record is pretty impressive. So we’ve thought that since well before the draft.”

5) One for the Fans

The fans deserve a nice ovation for supporting the Rams in the club’s return to Los Angeles, as the announced attendance was 89,140. Clearly many, many people wanted to help welcome the Rams back to Southern California, which helped create what was undoubtedly a special event.

“You could feel after we came in from warmups and then once some of the guys who were no longer playing — the response was, ‘Hey, this is very cool,’” Fisher said. “Some of them had not had that in their professional career. So it was really cool.”

“They stayed until the fourth quarter of a preseason game and were on their feet for the whole fourth quarter, so you can tell right there what it means to them and how exciting it is to have a team back here,” Goff said of the fans. “You could tell the atmosphere was just awesome. I expect it to be like that most games in the regular season as well.”
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A few random thoughts after the Cowboy game...

I haven't rewatched, mind you. Not sure I will, in fact.

But after the first watch, here goes...

Terrible way to inaugurate the first home game, huh? A deflating 101 yard TD return on the opening kickoff. To be fair, I saw a clear block in the back that should have drawn a flag. More like a tackle, really. Other reports I've read where posters watched it in slo mo replay claimed that there were 3 infractions, actually. Refs are in preseason form, too. But still...

The single biggest takeaway from this game? The Cowboy 1's abused our 1's early on. It was 24-7 at halftime, y'all. Lots of work to do on all 3 units these next 3 weeks. Among the starters, anyway.

I'm just gonna get this out of the way, now. I think any thought on Kroenke's part of extending Fisher just yet is premature. Waaaaay premature. If Fisher turns in a 6-2 mid season record, then sure. Go for it. Or a 10-6 record, maybe even playoff appearance at season's end, then yeah, absolutely. But please, NOT after just one preseason game. ESPECIALLY one where we trailed 24-7 at home against the Cowboy 1's. C'mon...

The following is a stream of consciousness thing, so bear with me...

Best rookie QB on the field was clearly Dak Prescott. He toyed with our 1's while in there. Had a 154.5 rating at one point. HE looked like the #1 overall pick, huh?

We can win with Keenum. Won't be real pretty, but I think we can win with him. In a 9-7 kinda way, I mean. His job is to keep us in the hunt until Goff gets his act together, and I think he can and will do at least that.

Not gonna sugarcoat it. Goff was underwhelming, wasn't he? But as Gruden pointed out, there was not a lot of help from his teammates, either. Some good signs, some areas that he needs to improve upon, and quickly. I no longer feel that he is 50-50 to start opening day. He'll get there at some point, but he doesn't look to me like he'll give us the best chance to win by opening day. Oh, Fisher might want to consider surrounding Goff with the 1st string OL next week. (sarcasm alert here)

Camp reporters were right about Mannion. The kid has come a long long way since last year. His offseason workouts with his personal QB guru appear to have paid big dividends. Now looks like he could be our #2 next year behind Goff, making Keenum expendable. Not to mention saving a roster spot for someone else on the 53. Are the naysayers about the Mannion pick having second thoughts? What an inspiring comeback win he executed.

Well, we seem to be in good shape at RB behind Gurley, huh? Tre who? Tremendous battle brewing for those 3rd and 4th spots. I think both Brown and Green make the 53.

I think I underestimated Kush at C. I watched him some and thought he played well. I'm less worried this morning about that position. I guess I overreacted to those bad snaps of his to Goff last week.

I thought GRob had a pretty danged good game. I kinda focused on him and he seems much better this year to me. Let's give both GRob and Bentley some love. I know it's early and I also know that the Cowboy DL are not the league's best, but still...

Higbee certainly didn't disappoint, did he? Camp reporters nailed this early on. Might even go so far as to say a star was born? We got a glimpse of the future? Any other cliche's you can think of? Loved the pick on draft day, and I love it even more now. This kid is a legit weapon for the next 10 years. After seeing how lucky we were to have both Donald and Gurley fall to us, it's kinda amazing to get to snatch Higbee in the 4th round. Wow!

Our WR's Cooper and Thomas were disappointing. Heck, they were very disappointing. Both better pick it up in the next 3 weeks if they want to see significant time on the field this fall. Yeah, Cooper looked good on returns, but we all know he is expected to be a helluva lot more than a returner.

Was it just me, but didn't Quick seem just so so?

I had hoped to see more targets for Duke Williams, but there's still 3 weeks to go.

McRoberts flashed just a little bit. Probably more of a PS candidate though, don't you think?

Those of us that have been praising Spruce certainly have our chests out today. Like a bunch of proud papas. The kid is a football player and just seems to make play after play. Another find that the camp reporters nailed quickly.

Was Ogletree hurt early last night? I mean, he barely had a cameo appearance before Hager took his place. I wanted to see Ogletree vs the Cowboy 1's. Our LB's seemed generally underwhelming, huh? Or was it just me? Maybe I'll rewatch and get a better impression on their play. Maybe...

Okay, I'm a little nervous now about our CB play. TruJo will be fine, of course. But Gaines is being held back to 3rd string? Is his hammy okay, or not, dammit! Sensabaugh might be a wonderful person, but his play in this game was very disappointing. Roberson and Joyner didn't exactly knock my socks off, either. Prescott seemed to be toying with them.

Mike Jordan, Jabriel Washington, and Troy Hill kinda stood out at times to me. Then again, they were going against 3rd stringers. Perhaps GW was running some sophisticated D schemes that were too subtle for me? I dunno. But I sure hope our CB's look better next week. I mean, a LOT better.

Nobody jumped out at me at S, either good or bad. Anybody feel differently?

Easley and Coples seemed to be kinda fitting in, don't you think? By opening day I think that they will be valuable rotational assets on the best DL in the league. Or am I being too optimistic?

Some fine tuning on kickoff placement strategy still needed, huh? The tinkering kind due to the new rule. We'll get there.

Hekker looks to be in mid season form. Not that anyone is surprised.

Our "new" O under Boras and Groh has a good feel to me. More unpredictable and more effective. Once Goff gets his feet underneath him, together with the likes of Gurley, Britt, Austin, Higbee, Spruce, and who knows else... Man, this could be a fun O to watch while the D gets rested up on the sideline this year.

That's it for now.

Comments welcome from one and all.
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For those "worried" or "concerned" about the 1s' performance

I got 1 word for ya....stop.

Just. Stop.

I re-watched all 3 Dallas TDs. Here's my non-coaching perspective.

On the opening kickoff:
It was excellent blocking on Dallas' part. I didn't really see missed tackles or anything like that.

Why I'm not worried: The Rams under this coaching staff have always fielded one of the better ST units. This isn't the norm for them, and I highly doubt this is gonna be the same ST unit come September.

On Dez Bryant's TD:
That was no where close to the starting defense. With the obvious starters out, plus a very basic scheme, I'm not surprised he got the score.

Why I'm not worried: Does anyone actually think Coty Sensabaugh is gonna cover the opponents' top WR, let alone one of Dez Bryant's caliber for a whole game? Isn't that Trumaine Johnson's job, possibly EJ Gaines? And let's be real, Coty didn't get burned or anything. He had good coverage, but Dez is one of the best WRs in the game. Coupled with more even more starters out and no pressure (maybe intentionally), of course it was gonna happen.

On Terrance Williams' TD:
If there were any starting players on defense, I didn't notice them. They dropped EVERYONE except the backup DL into coverage. Lamarcus Joyner got schooled, and that's pretty much it.

Why I'm not worried:
If this were the real games, the #2 corner would be on Terrance Williams, and I'm assuming it's gonna be EJ Gaines. And the more I look at it, I'm glad Lamarcus didn't get completely burned like Janoris sometimes did. He recovered nicely, and still had decent coverage. Just a good throw.

So in summary: not the real STs and defense, no real scheme, they went through the motions. And under Jeff Fisher on week 1s, when has this team NOT been ready to play week 1? Once, during the whole Shaun Hill/Austin Davis debacle.

Higbeast, Cunnungham, and Spruce

How do you build an offense that consistently moves the chains? Run well and convert third downs...that's the Fisher way. Higbee, Cunningham, and Spruce are the best third down options on this team. They all have the innate ability to fight for the tough yards needed to extend drives. While Gurley and Austin make this offense potentially explosive, these three are the ones I'd trust on the field when you HAVE to make a play. Dropped passes and missed assignments have caused this team to have one of the worst third down conversion rates in the NFL for years now. While Gurley and Austin have the ability to keep us out of third and long as frequently as it has been in the past, WE NEED TO CONTROL THE TIME OF POSSESSION for this team to be successful.

Now, if only we can fix the run and screen pass defense...

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Post Preseason Game One: Ranking Offensive Targets

Which Three Players Will Be 2016 Rams Most Productive On Offense?

  • Gurley, Tavon, Britt

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Gurley, Tavon, Cooper

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Gurley, Cooper, Higbee

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Gurley, Tavon, Higbee

    Votes: 7 63.6%
  • Gurley, Higbee, Spruce

    Votes: 1 9.1%
  • Judy Judy Judy

    Votes: 1 9.1%

I believe the Rams have a number of impressive options in both the run game and the pass game. At this moment in time, I would grade them this way:

"A" Options:
Gurley
Tavon
"B" Options:
Benny
Higbee
Cooper
Britt
Spruce
"C" Options:
Kendricks
Quick
Green
Brown
Harkey
Williams
"D" Options:
McRoberts
Reynolds
Marquez
Hemingway
North
Thomas
TE Cunningham

A's and B's are safe and seem to be in the plans, C's are either safe to make the team, but not going to be used much, or on the bubble. D's are in trouble and need to show themselves big in weeks 2 and 3 to make the team.

How do you see it?
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Goff Was Money Tonight

4(+3 non dropped passes)=7/9 for 84 est. yds plus the opportunity for a red zone series from inside the ten for a TD. Zero ints. Because his protection didn't let him down. Took one sack and threw one away deep.Beautiful shot to Cooper about 25yds downfield.

Nearly flawless! Praises being showered on Jared...

:rant:Roman! Wake your ass up! :shocking:

Huh. Oh what? I dreamt that was what Goff did. Was I off?

Game Notes: Pre Season Game 1

1. Big game corners?- Sensabaugh and Joyner had decent coverage at times, but simply couldn't handle big receivers going over the top. Tru shadowed bigger WRs at times last year and he will have to do it again this year based on tonights showing. Or Gaines needs to get healthy.

2. Switching it up- Coples played DT and Westbrooks played DE. Hasn't been this way most of camp, but makes sense because Coples is bigger and Westbrooks plays his best at LE.

3. A debut to forget- a couple bad drops and a poor decision on a kickoff return. In serious need of some bounce back games if he wants to make the team

4. Captain Checkdowns v. Goff- Goff looked downfield, but occasionally held it too long. Keenum and Mannion were more efficient, but rarely looked down field, which won't work all the time when we face tighter coverage in the regular.

5. Spread it out- The new offense looks like a great hybrid of Boras' clever run schemes with more spread formations, shotgun, TEs flexed, and RBs heavily targeted out of the backfield.

6. Cooper's gotta to adjust to LA traffic- had a great punt return and a kick return, but left something to be desired as a WR. Was the first team WR in the slot over Marquez, but couldn't come up with two contested catches over the middle like you expect your slot WR to do.

7. Spruuuuuce- got open caught the ball more than we can say about alot of guys tonight. Hopefully the injury isn't too bad because he outplayed the two guys who played ahead of him in the slot.

8. Pleasantly anonymous O-Line- Cowboys D-line isn't anything special, but this group didn't stand out including G-Rob, which is a good thing. No penalties and keenum had plenty of time to throw.

9. That time Case thought he was Cam- Keenum was very efficient dinking and dunking outside of this play and Tavon's third down drop. He had plenty of time after cowboys bluffed the blitz and line gave him protection and for some strange reason he decided to try and run for it on 3rd and long WTF! Concerns me about what he can do outside of the quick passing game because he definitely doesn't have the arm strength to fit the ball in tight downfield windows.

10. Tre Who?- Cunnigham, Green, and Brown all ran hard, broke tackles and won their receiving matchups out of the backfield. Hell even Chase Reynolds scored a TD

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