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Rams Current Secondary Unit
- By BonifayRam
- RAMS / NFL TALK
- 15 Replies
Our DB unit appears to look UN usually weak/thin at the moment in 2 areas. Outside corner posts & deep safety depth.
Last season we had 6 corners now we have 5. We lost 3 Jenkins-Patterson & Roberson & added 2 Sensabaugh & Gaines (Gaines is out with nagging TC & pre season injuries). We have added two DB's with versatility to play multiple DB posts to the Practice Squad in UDFA Michael Jordan & ex Eagle Blake Countess.
The general specific skill set of these five CB's appears to be two Nickle & Dime backs in Joyner & Sensabaugh with 3 outside corners being Johnson-Hill & Gaines. Hill has yet to play in a Ram regular season game. Troy Hill did dress for 3 games for CIN, but did not for NE Pats. Fisher did make special mention of Troy Hill press conference.
Gregg Williams has 3 strong safeties in Barron-McDonald & Alexander so we look nice & beefy in this position thus we saw the release of Strong Safety CB Bryant. Veteran Cody Davis is the only bona fide true deep safety on the roster. I have mentioned this often that we need to not forget nickle back Lamarcus Joyner versatility to be able to play in this deep safety role too. Go back & review some of the late 2015 season games to see where pre snap Rodney & Lamarcus would quicky flip roles where Rod would play the Nickle & the 5-8 Lamar would drop deep it proved successful placing the taller 5-11 & longer armed Rodney to cover the taller slot receivers giving Lamar issues.
Right now until EJ Gaines gets healthy we are super thin with good outside corners. Lets hope the safeties & DL pass rush can make up for what I see as in a weakened state until Gaines returns. But then Troy Hill make be the real deal
. Anyone see it in a much different way?
Last season we had 6 corners now we have 5. We lost 3 Jenkins-Patterson & Roberson & added 2 Sensabaugh & Gaines (Gaines is out with nagging TC & pre season injuries). We have added two DB's with versatility to play multiple DB posts to the Practice Squad in UDFA Michael Jordan & ex Eagle Blake Countess.
The general specific skill set of these five CB's appears to be two Nickle & Dime backs in Joyner & Sensabaugh with 3 outside corners being Johnson-Hill & Gaines. Hill has yet to play in a Ram regular season game. Troy Hill did dress for 3 games for CIN, but did not for NE Pats. Fisher did make special mention of Troy Hill press conference.
Gregg Williams has 3 strong safeties in Barron-McDonald & Alexander so we look nice & beefy in this position thus we saw the release of Strong Safety CB Bryant. Veteran Cody Davis is the only bona fide true deep safety on the roster. I have mentioned this often that we need to not forget nickle back Lamarcus Joyner versatility to be able to play in this deep safety role too. Go back & review some of the late 2015 season games to see where pre snap Rodney & Lamarcus would quicky flip roles where Rod would play the Nickle & the 5-8 Lamar would drop deep it proved successful placing the taller 5-11 & longer armed Rodney to cover the taller slot receivers giving Lamar issues.
Right now until EJ Gaines gets healthy we are super thin with good outside corners. Lets hope the safeties & DL pass rush can make up for what I see as in a weakened state until Gaines returns. But then Troy Hill make be the real deal
. Anyone see it in a much different way?
2015 vs 2016 Offense
- By SteveBrown
- RAMS / NFL TALK
- 20 Replies
Some guy wrote on another board (paraphrased): we have the same players on offense! We will still really suck. Yes, he is right about the players, however, our offense has a chance to inch up a bit, and control the ball, and maybe put up 6 point more per game, and gives us a chance for 3-4 more wins. Read on at your emotional peril:
Here is the 2016 O compared to last year:
1. Brown, Wichmann and GRob will be much better.
2. Barnes and Saffold (because of surgery) a little bit better. Barnes looks pretty now, right?
3. Kendricks looks natural catching the ball for the first time, and he looks lighter and faster.
Higbee at some point will be making catches that Cook wouldn't or couldn't.
4. Austin should be able to run better routes, and a few deeper routes a game.
5. Gurley and Cunningham are faster and lighter than last year; and Gurley will be 'integrated' in to the passing game, and can catch some key swing passes to convert 1st downs ala Cappeletti, McCutcheon and Dickerson in they hey-day...no, he isn't Faulk yet
6. Britt the same, but with better sharper patterns.
I think the coaching is a a bit better going in to this season. The WRs look smarter IN THEIR short routes. If you watch last season we threw plenty of deeper routes. But, on 3rd down, when we needed 7-12 yards we never threw the dig/crossing routes or deep come backs. I suspect the same this year. However, We will not have games like this exhibition season where we only threw 3-8 yard outs (comical---or does fisher really believe that will work over 16 games). That was for show.
If you watch the 2015 Green Bay game, that was typical of our offensive season. We had many chances, and a few missed field goals, and a bad throw returned for a TD. Really, Foles lost that game. Though Foles threw some nice 'clean' deep balls that Case won't, he really handicapped the offense I think. I don't know if we would have won that game, but we would have been tied in the 4th quarter if Foles manages the game better. Our O line looked pitiful, too.....I think those days are mostly gone...mostly. We still don't have great pass blocking (I am not high).
So, maybe we will be 22nd in offense this year, but if we control the ball like we did against KC's first team D (though they missed 2 probowlers) we can be like the 99-2002 Titans who kept finding ways to win.
Going back to the Fisher's Titans and 'ballers':
Fisher won by guys making 1-2 plays in the late 3rd and 4th quarters. A lot of times they looked 'lucky' but Wycheck or Mason would make some key plays on McNairs toss ups....I think Fisher really, really missed those tow guys. We have the Power O line and Gurley, but we need guys to 'ball"---like Spruce. Cooper, Spruce, Higbee are ballers. I don't think they will contribute so much the first 4-5 games, but by midseason they will make plays.
When Fisher last made a playoff run (13-3 in 2008 ) he has a) a huge O line, b) fast Christ Johnson
and c) Kerry Collins who could consistently make accurate passes from a clean pocket. Well, we have the first 2 parts, and Goff is the answer for the 3rd part....but, we may have to wait 8-17 games for that (2017).
Kerry Collins was NEVER a smart QB, but he was big, durable and sometimes was pretty damn accurate when he wasn't mentally flustered. Case doesn't have the arm, or the WRs we will have eventually, but he has enough to get us some 17-13 and 19-17 and 23-20 victories.
Put this years offense into last years games against the Ravens, SF (#2), Green bay, Steelers and the Vikings and those 5 LOSSES could become 3-4 wins. That puts us at 10-11 wins. SOUNDS crazy right, but that is how Fisher rolled for 15 years in this league, and he ain't stoppin'. This is 1970s ball.
If each of Cooper, Higbee and Spruce make 5-8 key catches this year for first downs then those drives will be converted into FGs or TDs. Last year we didn't have that (duh). They are ballers who are much beter thinkers than Britt/Quick. When you have an O line like we do you wear people down. That is how Dickerson and the Rams went to the playoffs form 1983 to 1986. It worked then, and it will work now.
Here is the 2016 O compared to last year:
1. Brown, Wichmann and GRob will be much better.
2. Barnes and Saffold (because of surgery) a little bit better. Barnes looks pretty now, right?
3. Kendricks looks natural catching the ball for the first time, and he looks lighter and faster.
Higbee at some point will be making catches that Cook wouldn't or couldn't.
4. Austin should be able to run better routes, and a few deeper routes a game.
5. Gurley and Cunningham are faster and lighter than last year; and Gurley will be 'integrated' in to the passing game, and can catch some key swing passes to convert 1st downs ala Cappeletti, McCutcheon and Dickerson in they hey-day...no, he isn't Faulk yet
6. Britt the same, but with better sharper patterns.
I think the coaching is a a bit better going in to this season. The WRs look smarter IN THEIR short routes. If you watch last season we threw plenty of deeper routes. But, on 3rd down, when we needed 7-12 yards we never threw the dig/crossing routes or deep come backs. I suspect the same this year. However, We will not have games like this exhibition season where we only threw 3-8 yard outs (comical---or does fisher really believe that will work over 16 games). That was for show.
If you watch the 2015 Green Bay game, that was typical of our offensive season. We had many chances, and a few missed field goals, and a bad throw returned for a TD. Really, Foles lost that game. Though Foles threw some nice 'clean' deep balls that Case won't, he really handicapped the offense I think. I don't know if we would have won that game, but we would have been tied in the 4th quarter if Foles manages the game better. Our O line looked pitiful, too.....I think those days are mostly gone...mostly. We still don't have great pass blocking (I am not high).
So, maybe we will be 22nd in offense this year, but if we control the ball like we did against KC's first team D (though they missed 2 probowlers) we can be like the 99-2002 Titans who kept finding ways to win.
Going back to the Fisher's Titans and 'ballers':
Fisher won by guys making 1-2 plays in the late 3rd and 4th quarters. A lot of times they looked 'lucky' but Wycheck or Mason would make some key plays on McNairs toss ups....I think Fisher really, really missed those tow guys. We have the Power O line and Gurley, but we need guys to 'ball"---like Spruce. Cooper, Spruce, Higbee are ballers. I don't think they will contribute so much the first 4-5 games, but by midseason they will make plays.
When Fisher last made a playoff run (13-3 in 2008 ) he has a) a huge O line, b) fast Christ Johnson
and c) Kerry Collins who could consistently make accurate passes from a clean pocket. Well, we have the first 2 parts, and Goff is the answer for the 3rd part....but, we may have to wait 8-17 games for that (2017).
Kerry Collins was NEVER a smart QB, but he was big, durable and sometimes was pretty damn accurate when he wasn't mentally flustered. Case doesn't have the arm, or the WRs we will have eventually, but he has enough to get us some 17-13 and 19-17 and 23-20 victories.
Put this years offense into last years games against the Ravens, SF (#2), Green bay, Steelers and the Vikings and those 5 LOSSES could become 3-4 wins. That puts us at 10-11 wins. SOUNDS crazy right, but that is how Fisher rolled for 15 years in this league, and he ain't stoppin'. This is 1970s ball.
If each of Cooper, Higbee and Spruce make 5-8 key catches this year for first downs then those drives will be converted into FGs or TDs. Last year we didn't have that (duh). They are ballers who are much beter thinkers than Britt/Quick. When you have an O line like we do you wear people down. That is how Dickerson and the Rams went to the playoffs form 1983 to 1986. It worked then, and it will work now.
Peter King: MMQB - 9/5/16
- By Prime Time
- RAMS / NFL TALK
- 10 Replies
These are only excerpts from this article. To read the whole thing click the link below. Btw don't bother looking for any Rams news, there isn't any.
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http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/09/04/sam-bradford-trade-minnesota-vikings-philadelphia-eagles-nfl
Inside the Trade that Could Reshape the 2016 Season
The two general managers recount all the action that led to the Eagles sending Sam Bradford to the Vikings for two draft picks the week before the season starts. Plus 10 takeaways from cutdown weekend and more
By Peter King
Saturday, 6:30 a.m., two NFL general managers and good friends on the phone, trying to finish a trade. The subject of sleep comes up. Neither Philadelphia’s Howie Roseman nor Minnesota’s Rick Spielman has had any of significance during the night, not since they’d last been on the phone five-and-a-half hours earlier.
“I’m staring at the ceiling, wide awake, at 2:30,” Roseman said to Spielman, “and [wife] Mindy says, ‘You okay?’ I said, ‘No, I’m not okay. We’re about to change a lot of lives here.’ ”
“Same thing with me,” Spielman said in return. “Couldn’t sleep. I was out at 4 a.m. walking the dogs.”
How long did it take to make the stunning deal of the year in pro football? Forty-eight hours. That’s the time from the first phone call from Spielman, in his office in Eden Prairie, Minn., to Roseman, about to engage his three boys in some baseball pitch-and-catch in his yard in Pennsylvania, just before dinner at home Wednesday evening, and the time it got very real and Spielman offered Minnesota’s first-round pick Friday evening. It was so surprising to Roseman that he said “it wasn’t even on my brain” Thursday night during the Eagles’ fourth preseason game.
A brief oral history of the Trade That Might Change This Season, from the two general managers:
Sam Bradford brings to Minnesota a 25-37-1 career record as a starting quarterback over
five seasons in St. Louis and Philadelphia.
Photo: George Gojkovich/Getty Images
Tuesday
Spielman, 1:20 p.m. CT: I stand on the defensive side of the field, way in the back. I saw Teddy go down. He must have tripped, I thought. I walked over to where he was down, and I see players turning their heads away, shocked. Players were in shock. By the time I got there, maybe 15 seconds after he went down, our trainer, Eric Sugarman, and other trainers had his leg up and were getting it braced.
They were tremendous. It might have been a dislocation, and from what they tell me, the first thing you’ve got to be concerned with is the nerve and the artery there, so you’ve got to get right on it. I didn’t know what to think. We got dealt a shocking blow. You try to digest it, but you think, ‘Ten, 11 days out from the season, and we lose our franchise quarterback. What do we do?’
Roseman: I was leaving our draft room and looked up at the TV and see on the crawl that Teddy Bridgewater got hurt. I didn’t know anything. I just felt for him, and for Rick. We’re pretty close.
Spielman: Zim [head coach Mike Zimmer] called off practice and had a team meeting, and then I called all our scouts together, and [assistant GM] George Paton, into a meeting. I told them what happened. Besides all their jaws dropping to the floor and being sick to your stomach, absolutely sick to your stomach … we had a job to do. I said to them: ‘This is what we’re getting paid to do, finding the best solution out of the worst-case scenario.
And that’s what we’re going to do here.’ I got up on the white board and we sorted out the scenarios—guys on the street we might want, guys who might get cut, guys on teams that might have enough depth that they’d consider dealing one. Names and options. Then we all got to work watching tape and I started making calls. To be honest, there was no solution. No good solution.
Wednesday
Spielman: I made a bunch of calls. I am not gonna mention teams. But there was blood in the water, and teams knew it. The price was too high. I didn’t want to mortgage our future. Some teams asked for a first-round pick and a core young player. I can understand the pick.
But we worked too hard over the past three years to put all that time and energy into drafting and developing a solid core of this team. I was taken aback who they were asking for. Players who’d been in the Pro Bowl. I mean, in the off-season, you’ve got time. There’s not blood in the water in the off-season. But now there was.
Roseman: We had a home preseason game Thursday, so Wednesday was a good night at home, and my boys were waiting for me to get home so we could play catch in the yard. Right then, I look at my phone and it’s Rick, and of course I am on the phone again, and they’re following me around the yard. I think they wanted to throw the ball at my head.
But Rick and I talked for 10 minutes and I said we’d have to talk Thursday. We’d seen each other in New York in the spring at a leadership conference at the Brooklyn Nets, with a couple of other GMs. He asked me then if we’d be open to trading one of our quarterbacks, and I said it’d be very hard to do anything with any of them.
Thursday
Spielman: When we talked about this as a staff, we knew we had [backup] Shaun Hill, and we really like Shaun. But the worst-case scenario is Shaun comes in and runs the offense well and then Shaun gets hurt? Then what? And we could wait and see what comes off the waiver wire, but how significant is that player going to be? We were working a couple of things, but when I asked [tight ends coach] Pat Shurmur, who’d coached Sam twice, he knew how smart he was and what a great addition he would be to our team and our locker room.
I watched every game Sam played last year, and the last three games, I thought he was playing as well as anyone I saw last year. I don’t think he’s ever been on a team with a top 10 rushing offense. With 28 [Adrian Peterson] in our backfield, playing at a high level, with the defense we have, Sam’s not gonna have to throw it 35 or 40 times every game. I know our coaches wanted him.
Before we played our last preseason game, Zim wasn’t too worried about the game. He was worried about the quarterback. I talked to our ownership, and they said: ‘Be as aggressive as you have to be. Do what you have to do.’
Roseman, 8 p.m.: I’m not even thinking about it at the game. When we talked [earlier Thursday], I said to Rick, ‘Rick, this is going to be a premium.’ It had to include their first-round pick in 2017 [Philly had traded its 2017 in a package to be able to draft rookie quarterback Carson Wentz], plus something else. I didn’t think they’d consider that. We talked about it, but I wasn’t thinking it was very serious.
Friday
Roseman, 8 a.m.: I told Rick we were in the same place. I told him he’d have to knock us over.
Eagles coach Doug Pederson has left the team to be at the bedside of his gravely ill father.
Roseman: With all the roster decisions we’re having to make, and with Doug’s family situation, I just told Rick that unless we’re talking the one in ’17 and another first high pick, it’s useless to talk.
Late in the afternoon, Spielman offers the 2017 first-round pick.
Spielman: That’s when I got more aggressive with Howie. I knew it would be a significant compensation, asking a team to give their starting quarterback eight days before the start of the season. I will do everything in my power to always give us the best chance to win, and it came down to—this is what we’re dealing with. I can’t change that. We have a good football team, a young football team.
Parting with the one, I knew I still had eight picks next year, including two threes and two fours. What really was significant for us was the second year of the contract with Sam. No one knows how long it’s going to take Teddy to recover. I had one other thing going with another team on Friday, but we liked Sam a lot.
Roseman, 7 p.m.: We were settled on the one, but we wanted better than a four in 2018. We were giving up our starting quarterback, who we didn’t want to give up. So there was some negotiation that needed to be done that night.
Spielman, midnight: We were a little punch drunk by then. We got it done, basically, but we had to button it up in the morning.
The fourth-round pick in 2018 can rise to as high as a second-round pick depending on the Vikings‘ playoff performance in 2016.
Saturday
Roseman, 8 a.m.: (Owner) Jeffrey Lurie is always supportive when we're trying to improve our team, and he signed off on the deal. Give him credit, for doing something with his team a week before the season that changes the team like this. Now I spoke with coach Pederson, who was in Louisiana with his family, and we had a deal. I called Rick. Coach Pederson called Sam. I was thinking, ‘We’ve changed two teams today. We’ve changed a lot of lives.’
Spielman, 4 p.m.: Sam came in the building, and he seemed very happy. I told him, ‘Congratulations,’ and he said, ‘I’ve got to get to work.’ And he went and got going right away with [quarterbacks coach] Scott Turner.
Sunday
Neither Roseman nor Spielman sounded elated Sunday on the phone. They sounded more tired than happy.
Spielman, 1:30 p.m.: We are a better team today than we were yesterday. Mentally, I am completely drained. Not only dealing with this, but making decisions on the 53-man roster, watching tape on potential claims till 2 this morning, getting our practice squad lined up …
[On Bradford:] I just know how he played the second half of last season, and I know he’s completely healthy, and I know this is the best running game by far that he’ll ever play with. At the end, this is what it comes down to: Did you do the best you possibly could do for your team? And we did the best we possibly could do. I think we put our team in the best possible position we can. Now we just see how it works out.
Roseman, 3:15 p.m.: Hopefully it works out great for the Vikings and great for us. But where it’s such a different scenario for us is it’s so different from the blueprint we established for our season. We’re getting powerful resources back, plus a lot of money in cap space to go out and get good players we didn’t have to help build a really good team. I believe our players will rally around our quarterbacks.
If Carson [Wentz] plays, experience is a great teacher. Some guys played well right away—the Joe Flaccos, the Ben Roethlisbergers. But Peyton Manning, Troy Aikman, John Elway had their struggles. Eli [Manning] started his rookie year [and went 2-7]. There’s no one way. Whenever you play, you’re going to be learning on the job. But whatever happens, this will be a couple days we all remember when we look back on our careers.
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The Norv Turner factor
Bernie Kosar, November 1993.
Photo: Stephen Dunn/Getty Images
In 1993, Troy Aikman tweaked a hamstring in a November game for Dallas. The next day, Cleveland coach Bill Belichick fired quarterback Bernie Kosar. Two days later, the Cowboys signed Kosar and, with Jason Garrett as the backup to Aikman, Dallas coaches got Kosar ready to play against the Cardinals. Kosar got ready, all right. Ten minutes into a 20-15 win over the Cards, Kosar relieved Garrett, and went on to complete 13 of 21 with one touchdown pass and no turnovers.
The Dallas offensive coordinator then? Norv Turner.
The Minnesota offensive coordinator now, 23 years later? Norv Turner.
I covered that story, and that game, for Sports Illustrated. I looked back at what I wrote Sunday. Kosar was programmed with 67 plays, all of which were typed neatly on his wristband. Turner would call down the play he wanted to tight ends coach Robert Ford, and Ford would signal the number to Kosar—for instance, holding up two fingers, then six, for play number 26 on the wristband—and Kosar would translate the number to a play, and make the call.
Worked pretty well. Is that how Turner will do it with Sam Bradford? And will the Vikings rush Bradford into the opener against Tennessee? I don’t know. But Turner has a road map to do it. He’s done it before, with a shorter turnaround. Kosar was signed five days before he played 50 minutes. Bradford was acquired eight days before the game in Nashville.
After the game, sitting having a celebratory beer with head coach Jimmy Johnson, Turner was pretty matter-of-fact about getting the job done with Kosar. “I'm a fan just like anybody, and I loved working with Bernie this week,” Turner said that day. “This was a once-in-a-lifetime deal. How often do you pick up a championship quarterback in mid-week and get him ready to play the next game?”
Maybe it’s twice in a lifetime. We’ll see.
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Offensive lineman Josh Sitton played eight seasons for the Packers and now will face his former team twice a season as a Chicago Bear.
Photo: Joe Robbins/Getty Images
Ten things to know about cutdown weekend
1. Green Bay just handed an arch rival a great interior lineman. Maybe GM Ted Thompson viewed that saving $5 million a year by subbing the unproven Lane Taylor (most likely) for 30-year-old Josh Sitton was smart, given that this would likely have been Sitton’s last year in Green Bay. Whatever, now the Bears have the best guard tandem in football now (Sitton at left guard, Kyle Long at right), and for a coach who wants to run the ball heavily like John Fox, Sitton fell out of the sky for Chicago. Good move by GM Ryan Pace to hurriedly sign Sitton—particularly in advance of opening against the very strong front seven of the Texans next Sunday.
2. Seattle has faith in Russell Wilson’s health. I guess I don’t blame them; Wilson has played every game of his four-year career. The Seahawks have one backup to Wilson—undrafted free agent Trevone Boykin, who wasn’t very impressive this summer (52 percent passer, 68.9 rating).
3. Watch for Kenneth Dixon in Baltimore. Whilethe rookie fourth-round running back won’t be a prime-time player early while he recovers from a knee injury, he could well be the regular back by the middle of October. Baltimore loves him. Lots of faith in rookies on the Baltimore offense, with Ronnie Stanley (first round, Notre Dame) starting at left tackle and Alex Lewis (fourth round, Nebraska) starting at left guard. Dixon will make that three prominent rookies on offense. Add Breshad Perriman, who looked very good in the final preseason game—he’s a big guy with separation ability—and that’s a good infusion of talent for Joe Flacco.
4. The Texans gamble with youth—extreme youth. Cutting 28-year-old Cecil Shorts III means that all five Texan wideouts are 24 or younger: DeAndre Hopkins, Jaelen Strong, Braxton Miller, Will Fuller and Keith Mumphery. … Also in Houston, coach Bill O’Brien said there’s a decent chance J.J. Watt could return from disk surgery in time for the opener against Chicago on Sunday.
5. Brother acts. Sixth-round San Diego fullback Derek Watt made the Chargers and will, if active, try to keep J.J. Watt from messing up Philip Rivers when the Chargers and Texans meet Nov. 27 in Houston. Undrafted free-agent fullback Glenn Gronkowski made his hometown Bills and will see big bro Rob on Oct. 2 and Oct. 30 in the Bills-Pats games.
6. Cleveland is playing for DeShaun Watson—and the next DeShaun Watson. The Browns, in shipping cornerback Justin Gilbert to Pittsburgh for a 2018 sixth-round pick, now are officially 0-for-6 on first-round picks between 2011 and 2014. But looking ahead, Cleveland has its own first-round pick and Philadelphia’s first-round pick, plus Tennessee’s two and its own two. Theoretically, that could easily give the Browns four picks in the top 40 next April, plus three picks in the first two rounds in 2018.
If the Browns don’t get the top pick next year (and there are overwhelming favorites on the Peter King Big Board), they’ll have enough ammo to move up for Clemson quarterback DeShaun Watson, or be in position to draft UCLA quarterback Josh Rosen (or some other top passer) in the 2018 draft.
7. These three things say it all about Justin Gilbert. One: The Browns couldn’t find a non-division trading partner for the ninth pick in the 2014 draft and so had to deal him to their archrivals. Two: The Steelers’ Achilles heel, the thing they just haven’t been able to get right in recent years, is the corner position. Thus the gamble with an unmotivated player. Gilbert won’t be unmotivated for long under Mike Tomlin and defensive coordinator Keith Butler—or he’ll be gone.
Three: Gilbert couldn’t beat out a fifth-round pick, Trey Caldwell, for a backup job, or a Dolphins’ reject, Jamar Taylor, for a starting job. Taylor was acquired last spring for a swap of seventh-round picks.In other words, Miami traded Taylor so it could move up eight spots in the final round of the draft. That’s the guy who Gilbert couldn’t beat out under new coach Hue Jackson.
8. The Sanchize won’t be playing in Dallas unless Dak Prescott’s a total fraud. Mark Sanchez got whacked in Denver when the Broncos could find no trade takers for him. He’s strictly an insurance policy for Dallas, and no threat to Prescott’s job unless the rookie stinks.
9. Vernon Davis gets a new life. He looked down for the count after being invisible in Denver at the end of last year. But Davis beat out a reliable player, Logan Paulsen, for the prime backup job to Jordan Reed. Jay Gruden is a big fan of tight ends, so the backup in Washington will get quality time.
10. Kansas City shows faith in Tyler Bray, but will really miss Justin Houston. I thought Kevin Hogan would be a great Andy Reid project, and the Stanford kid may have an NFL future still as a member of the Chiefs’ practice squad. But Hogan, a fifth-round pick, and Aaron Murray couldn’t beat out Tyler Bray as the Chiefs’ third QB. Nick Foles sticks as Alex Smith’s backup …
Biggest worry about the Chiefs, to me, is Justin Houston missing at least the first six weeks of the season on the physically unable to perform list. Houston, who led the NFL with 22 sacks in 2014, was a shell of himself for most of last season, missing five games and having 4.5 sacks in the last 11 games he played, then having offseason knee surgery. He’s still not right. The Chiefs are a good team with a potential playoff defense, but that’s diminished significantly without their best pass-rusher.
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The Broncos’ Super Bowl win was the fourth for Gary Kubiak and second for Peyton Manning.
Photo: Christian Petersen/Getty Images
Steve Sabol would be proud
As NFL Films so often does, you’ll see a great telling of the Denver Super Bowl story Wednesday night—first through the eyes of the coaches (“Worth the Wait,” 8 p.m. ET, NFL Network), then in the season highlight show (“America’s Game: 2015 Broncos,” 9 p.m. ET, NFL Network). I screened the coaches’ show, modeled after the Patriots’ “Do Your Job” show last year, which was excellent.
I found a few telling things in “Worth the Wait,” produced by Krys Wong and Adam Ryan, most notably the play-by-play of Kubiak yanking Peyton Manning after Manning missed two days of practice with a sore foot that week and then threw four interceptions in the first half against Kansas City. There’s no science to these things, the difficult decisions a coach makes. They’re gut things, and no textbook way to tell a player. Here’s how Kubiak told Manning he was yanking him:
Kubiak: ”Hey dude, just listen to me talk, okay? Hey, this is on me. I got you, okay?”
Manning: “All right.”
Kubiak: “I can’t [put] you out there and get you hurt. You understand that?”
Manning: “Yup.”
Kubiak: “I had no business putting you out there today anyway, okay?”
Manning: “All right.”
Kubiak: “All right, we’ll get through it. Fair enough?”
Manning: “Yes sir.”
Kubiak: “Okay.”
As Kubiak said later: “I was a little disappointed in myself, I felt bad about putting him out there to be honest. I didn’t think he was ready to play.”
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There is some terrific real football in here. Kubiak, offensive coordinator Rick Dennison and tight ends coach Brian Pariani had been in Baltimore the previous year, when the Ravens went to New England for a playoff game. In that game, the Ravens called a play from the Patriots’ 11-yard line for tight end Owen Daniels to run up the seam against New England’s physical linebacker, Dont’a Hightower.
Daniels was a physical match for Hightower, and he won the ball in the end zone for a touchdown. So in the Denver-New England AFC Championship Game, exactly 53 weeks later, with the core of the 2014 Ravens offensive staff in Denver now, the Broncos lined up at the New England 21 early in a scoreless game.
Amazing, the similarities, this time two time zones away.
Daniels and Kubiak and Dennison and Pariani in Denver now. Daniels on Hightower—again. This time, Daniels flexed into motion across the formation. “They do a great job in beating people up at the line of scrimmage,” Kubiak said in the show. “This time we moved Owen across the ball, to keep him from getting beat up.”
Just then, NFL Films captured Belichick on the New England sideline, from a moment he had previously with the linebackers: “81’s their go-to guy in the red area, okay?”
So Daniels moved away from Hightower, at the left of the formation, to the right, in a gap between Jamie Collins and Rob Ninkovich. As Daniels left the line and ran straight upfield, dissecting Collins and Ninkovich, neither followed him. Mistake in coverage, obviously. With Hightower nowhere in sight, Manning hit an open Daniels for the first points in the narrow win that sent the Broncos to the Super Bowl. Great storyline, and great camera work, on a play that was crucial to Denver winning a world championship.
Two other audio things stuck out. After the crucial Denver strip of Cam Newton in the Super Bowl that gave Denver a short field, running back C.J. Anderson stopped on his way to the field and, wide-eyed, pleaded with Kubiak: “Give it to me! Give it to me!” Kubiak called his number. Touchdown. And after the Super Bowl, Kubiak, in a moment with John Elway on the field in Santa Clara, referenced his previous NFL bling, and winning the Super Bowl as a head coach now. “Those three rings I have?” Kubiak said. “My boys can have ‘em. This one’s mine, baby! This one’s mine!”
It’s high praise indeed to say this show approaches the storytelling and inside access of “Do Your Job.” It’s well worth your hour Wednesday night.
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Stat of the Week
By cutting Mark Sanchez on Saturday, the Broncos chose to keep two passers on the active roster who hadn’t thrown a pass in an NFL game.
Just five-and-a-half years ago, Sanchez was the winning quarterback in Jets’ postseason victories over Peyton Manning and Tom Brady in a span of eight days.
Brady-Manning rating in the two games: 96.2.
Sanchez rating in the two games: 91.2.
Brady-Manning TD-to-interception ratio in the two games: 3-1.
Sanchez TD-to-interception ratio in the two games: 3-1.
Score of the two games, combined: Jets, 45-37.
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Nine Things I Think I Think
1. I think the NCAA is smart to make the week before the NFL season its big kickoff weekend. Look at the cottage industry this weekend has become, with so many great games kicking off when fans on TV and in stadiums are frothing for football. Superb games all over the place, with two huge ones in NFL stadiums: LSU-Wisconsin in Lambeau Field (loved the “Lambeaux Field” shirts sold there in LSU colors) and Alabama-USC at the Cowboys’ home in Arlington. By the way, loved Notre Dame at Texas. Not only a great game, but the kind of intersectional game that should be played more frequently.
2. I think I understand Ron Rivera being angry that teams with the opening Thursday game have it rough on the weekend before that opener, cutting the roster and setting the practice squad and not getting the normal time off before having to play the first game. But the B side to that argument is it gives the two Thursday teams an extra mini-bye in their seasons. Denver and Carolina get the weekend off before having to prepare for their Week 2 games, and I can guarantee you most players would want it that way—play early, play on national TV, and get three days off before the next week starts.
3. I think you'll see my Super Bowl pick Wednesday on this site. Not that it matters. I stink at picking those things. My predictions in general are awful. One hint: Picking two longtime doormats to win divisions this year. Not picking either to make the Super Bowl, but you've to walk before you run.
4. I think kudos go to two charitable sorts in the past few days: Indy punter Pat McAfee, for a benefit that raised $150,000 for relief for Kokomo (Ind.) hurricane victims … and to the NFL, for getting $50,000 to Denham Springs (La.) High School’s football program, which had most of its football uniforms and equipment destroyed by the floods that hit the area. The NFL will give $500,000 in all to the area for crucial needs.
5. I think one guy who stuck out to me on the cut list over the weekend was Tony Moeaki, the tight end who missed 48 games in six seasons due to injuries, and got let go by the Bears. Early on with the Chiefs, Moeaki blocked and caught like a future Pro Bowler, and just couldn’t stay on the field. Shame. After five teams let him go, he might not have a future.
6. I think it’s great that the 2017 draft will be held in Philadelphia. The more cities that get to host, the better. Still think Green Bay and Canton should be on the list, money be damned. (Not enough hotels in Green Bay, you say? So what. Make it a co-hosting affair with Milwaukee.)
7. I think the one stadium fix/opening of 2016 that I hadn’t focused on much was in Miami, but then I saw pictures of the improvements in the past few days. Two interesting things about the Dolphins’ new venue: 92 percent of the seats will be shaded by a giant canopy, as opposed to 17 percent in the past. And the grass is new for a pro football field. It’s called Paspalum Platinum grass. The Dolphins say it grows well in shade and in hot, humid climates, and is thicker than normal turf grasses.
8. I think Colin Kaepernick’s pig/police socks, though protected by freedom of expression, are divisive and very bad form nonetheless. Wearing them just inflames a situation that doesn’t need it. Point made, man.
9. I think, though I covered the Giants’ glory years for Newsday in the 80s, and consider myself well-versed about that era of Giants’ history, the new Jerry Barca book, “Big Blue Wrecking Crew: Smashmouth Football, a Little Bit of Crazy and the ’86 Super Bowl Champion New York Giants,” taught me a lot about that team. Such as this: When the Giants hired Bill Belichick as a special teams coach and defensive assistant in 1979, he had to move to New Jersey in the middle of interest rates skyrocketing.
He couldn’t afford it. So, according to Barca’s book, owner Wellington Mara stepped in and co-signed the down payment for the 27-year-old Belichick to buy his house. As Barca quotes Belichick: “I will always be indebted to Wellington Mara for the faith and support he showed me. I was a young nobody coaching special teams.” That’s the kind of detail work that marks this book, and makes it worth reading.
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Inside the Trade that Could Reshape the 2016 Season
The two general managers recount all the action that led to the Eagles sending Sam Bradford to the Vikings for two draft picks the week before the season starts. Plus 10 takeaways from cutdown weekend and more
By Peter King
Saturday, 6:30 a.m., two NFL general managers and good friends on the phone, trying to finish a trade. The subject of sleep comes up. Neither Philadelphia’s Howie Roseman nor Minnesota’s Rick Spielman has had any of significance during the night, not since they’d last been on the phone five-and-a-half hours earlier.
“I’m staring at the ceiling, wide awake, at 2:30,” Roseman said to Spielman, “and [wife] Mindy says, ‘You okay?’ I said, ‘No, I’m not okay. We’re about to change a lot of lives here.’ ”
“Same thing with me,” Spielman said in return. “Couldn’t sleep. I was out at 4 a.m. walking the dogs.”
How long did it take to make the stunning deal of the year in pro football? Forty-eight hours. That’s the time from the first phone call from Spielman, in his office in Eden Prairie, Minn., to Roseman, about to engage his three boys in some baseball pitch-and-catch in his yard in Pennsylvania, just before dinner at home Wednesday evening, and the time it got very real and Spielman offered Minnesota’s first-round pick Friday evening. It was so surprising to Roseman that he said “it wasn’t even on my brain” Thursday night during the Eagles’ fourth preseason game.
A brief oral history of the Trade That Might Change This Season, from the two general managers:
Sam Bradford brings to Minnesota a 25-37-1 career record as a starting quarterback over
five seasons in St. Louis and Philadelphia.
Photo: George Gojkovich/Getty Images
Tuesday
Spielman, 1:20 p.m. CT: I stand on the defensive side of the field, way in the back. I saw Teddy go down. He must have tripped, I thought. I walked over to where he was down, and I see players turning their heads away, shocked. Players were in shock. By the time I got there, maybe 15 seconds after he went down, our trainer, Eric Sugarman, and other trainers had his leg up and were getting it braced.
They were tremendous. It might have been a dislocation, and from what they tell me, the first thing you’ve got to be concerned with is the nerve and the artery there, so you’ve got to get right on it. I didn’t know what to think. We got dealt a shocking blow. You try to digest it, but you think, ‘Ten, 11 days out from the season, and we lose our franchise quarterback. What do we do?’
Roseman: I was leaving our draft room and looked up at the TV and see on the crawl that Teddy Bridgewater got hurt. I didn’t know anything. I just felt for him, and for Rick. We’re pretty close.
Spielman: Zim [head coach Mike Zimmer] called off practice and had a team meeting, and then I called all our scouts together, and [assistant GM] George Paton, into a meeting. I told them what happened. Besides all their jaws dropping to the floor and being sick to your stomach, absolutely sick to your stomach … we had a job to do. I said to them: ‘This is what we’re getting paid to do, finding the best solution out of the worst-case scenario.
And that’s what we’re going to do here.’ I got up on the white board and we sorted out the scenarios—guys on the street we might want, guys who might get cut, guys on teams that might have enough depth that they’d consider dealing one. Names and options. Then we all got to work watching tape and I started making calls. To be honest, there was no solution. No good solution.
Wednesday
Spielman: I made a bunch of calls. I am not gonna mention teams. But there was blood in the water, and teams knew it. The price was too high. I didn’t want to mortgage our future. Some teams asked for a first-round pick and a core young player. I can understand the pick.
But we worked too hard over the past three years to put all that time and energy into drafting and developing a solid core of this team. I was taken aback who they were asking for. Players who’d been in the Pro Bowl. I mean, in the off-season, you’ve got time. There’s not blood in the water in the off-season. But now there was.
Roseman: We had a home preseason game Thursday, so Wednesday was a good night at home, and my boys were waiting for me to get home so we could play catch in the yard. Right then, I look at my phone and it’s Rick, and of course I am on the phone again, and they’re following me around the yard. I think they wanted to throw the ball at my head.
But Rick and I talked for 10 minutes and I said we’d have to talk Thursday. We’d seen each other in New York in the spring at a leadership conference at the Brooklyn Nets, with a couple of other GMs. He asked me then if we’d be open to trading one of our quarterbacks, and I said it’d be very hard to do anything with any of them.
Thursday
Spielman: When we talked about this as a staff, we knew we had [backup] Shaun Hill, and we really like Shaun. But the worst-case scenario is Shaun comes in and runs the offense well and then Shaun gets hurt? Then what? And we could wait and see what comes off the waiver wire, but how significant is that player going to be? We were working a couple of things, but when I asked [tight ends coach] Pat Shurmur, who’d coached Sam twice, he knew how smart he was and what a great addition he would be to our team and our locker room.
I watched every game Sam played last year, and the last three games, I thought he was playing as well as anyone I saw last year. I don’t think he’s ever been on a team with a top 10 rushing offense. With 28 [Adrian Peterson] in our backfield, playing at a high level, with the defense we have, Sam’s not gonna have to throw it 35 or 40 times every game. I know our coaches wanted him.
Before we played our last preseason game, Zim wasn’t too worried about the game. He was worried about the quarterback. I talked to our ownership, and they said: ‘Be as aggressive as you have to be. Do what you have to do.’
Roseman, 8 p.m.: I’m not even thinking about it at the game. When we talked [earlier Thursday], I said to Rick, ‘Rick, this is going to be a premium.’ It had to include their first-round pick in 2017 [Philly had traded its 2017 in a package to be able to draft rookie quarterback Carson Wentz], plus something else. I didn’t think they’d consider that. We talked about it, but I wasn’t thinking it was very serious.
Friday
Roseman, 8 a.m.: I told Rick we were in the same place. I told him he’d have to knock us over.
Eagles coach Doug Pederson has left the team to be at the bedside of his gravely ill father.
Roseman: With all the roster decisions we’re having to make, and with Doug’s family situation, I just told Rick that unless we’re talking the one in ’17 and another first high pick, it’s useless to talk.
Late in the afternoon, Spielman offers the 2017 first-round pick.
Spielman: That’s when I got more aggressive with Howie. I knew it would be a significant compensation, asking a team to give their starting quarterback eight days before the start of the season. I will do everything in my power to always give us the best chance to win, and it came down to—this is what we’re dealing with. I can’t change that. We have a good football team, a young football team.
Parting with the one, I knew I still had eight picks next year, including two threes and two fours. What really was significant for us was the second year of the contract with Sam. No one knows how long it’s going to take Teddy to recover. I had one other thing going with another team on Friday, but we liked Sam a lot.
Roseman, 7 p.m.: We were settled on the one, but we wanted better than a four in 2018. We were giving up our starting quarterback, who we didn’t want to give up. So there was some negotiation that needed to be done that night.
Spielman, midnight: We were a little punch drunk by then. We got it done, basically, but we had to button it up in the morning.
The fourth-round pick in 2018 can rise to as high as a second-round pick depending on the Vikings‘ playoff performance in 2016.
Saturday
Roseman, 8 a.m.: (Owner) Jeffrey Lurie is always supportive when we're trying to improve our team, and he signed off on the deal. Give him credit, for doing something with his team a week before the season that changes the team like this. Now I spoke with coach Pederson, who was in Louisiana with his family, and we had a deal. I called Rick. Coach Pederson called Sam. I was thinking, ‘We’ve changed two teams today. We’ve changed a lot of lives.’
Spielman, 4 p.m.: Sam came in the building, and he seemed very happy. I told him, ‘Congratulations,’ and he said, ‘I’ve got to get to work.’ And he went and got going right away with [quarterbacks coach] Scott Turner.
Sunday
Neither Roseman nor Spielman sounded elated Sunday on the phone. They sounded more tired than happy.
Spielman, 1:30 p.m.: We are a better team today than we were yesterday. Mentally, I am completely drained. Not only dealing with this, but making decisions on the 53-man roster, watching tape on potential claims till 2 this morning, getting our practice squad lined up …
[On Bradford:] I just know how he played the second half of last season, and I know he’s completely healthy, and I know this is the best running game by far that he’ll ever play with. At the end, this is what it comes down to: Did you do the best you possibly could do for your team? And we did the best we possibly could do. I think we put our team in the best possible position we can. Now we just see how it works out.
Roseman, 3:15 p.m.: Hopefully it works out great for the Vikings and great for us. But where it’s such a different scenario for us is it’s so different from the blueprint we established for our season. We’re getting powerful resources back, plus a lot of money in cap space to go out and get good players we didn’t have to help build a really good team. I believe our players will rally around our quarterbacks.
If Carson [Wentz] plays, experience is a great teacher. Some guys played well right away—the Joe Flaccos, the Ben Roethlisbergers. But Peyton Manning, Troy Aikman, John Elway had their struggles. Eli [Manning] started his rookie year [and went 2-7]. There’s no one way. Whenever you play, you’re going to be learning on the job. But whatever happens, this will be a couple days we all remember when we look back on our careers.
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The Norv Turner factor
Bernie Kosar, November 1993.
Photo: Stephen Dunn/Getty Images
In 1993, Troy Aikman tweaked a hamstring in a November game for Dallas. The next day, Cleveland coach Bill Belichick fired quarterback Bernie Kosar. Two days later, the Cowboys signed Kosar and, with Jason Garrett as the backup to Aikman, Dallas coaches got Kosar ready to play against the Cardinals. Kosar got ready, all right. Ten minutes into a 20-15 win over the Cards, Kosar relieved Garrett, and went on to complete 13 of 21 with one touchdown pass and no turnovers.
The Dallas offensive coordinator then? Norv Turner.
The Minnesota offensive coordinator now, 23 years later? Norv Turner.
I covered that story, and that game, for Sports Illustrated. I looked back at what I wrote Sunday. Kosar was programmed with 67 plays, all of which were typed neatly on his wristband. Turner would call down the play he wanted to tight ends coach Robert Ford, and Ford would signal the number to Kosar—for instance, holding up two fingers, then six, for play number 26 on the wristband—and Kosar would translate the number to a play, and make the call.
Worked pretty well. Is that how Turner will do it with Sam Bradford? And will the Vikings rush Bradford into the opener against Tennessee? I don’t know. But Turner has a road map to do it. He’s done it before, with a shorter turnaround. Kosar was signed five days before he played 50 minutes. Bradford was acquired eight days before the game in Nashville.
After the game, sitting having a celebratory beer with head coach Jimmy Johnson, Turner was pretty matter-of-fact about getting the job done with Kosar. “I'm a fan just like anybody, and I loved working with Bernie this week,” Turner said that day. “This was a once-in-a-lifetime deal. How often do you pick up a championship quarterback in mid-week and get him ready to play the next game?”
Maybe it’s twice in a lifetime. We’ll see.
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Offensive lineman Josh Sitton played eight seasons for the Packers and now will face his former team twice a season as a Chicago Bear.
Photo: Joe Robbins/Getty Images
Ten things to know about cutdown weekend
1. Green Bay just handed an arch rival a great interior lineman. Maybe GM Ted Thompson viewed that saving $5 million a year by subbing the unproven Lane Taylor (most likely) for 30-year-old Josh Sitton was smart, given that this would likely have been Sitton’s last year in Green Bay. Whatever, now the Bears have the best guard tandem in football now (Sitton at left guard, Kyle Long at right), and for a coach who wants to run the ball heavily like John Fox, Sitton fell out of the sky for Chicago. Good move by GM Ryan Pace to hurriedly sign Sitton—particularly in advance of opening against the very strong front seven of the Texans next Sunday.
2. Seattle has faith in Russell Wilson’s health. I guess I don’t blame them; Wilson has played every game of his four-year career. The Seahawks have one backup to Wilson—undrafted free agent Trevone Boykin, who wasn’t very impressive this summer (52 percent passer, 68.9 rating).
3. Watch for Kenneth Dixon in Baltimore. Whilethe rookie fourth-round running back won’t be a prime-time player early while he recovers from a knee injury, he could well be the regular back by the middle of October. Baltimore loves him. Lots of faith in rookies on the Baltimore offense, with Ronnie Stanley (first round, Notre Dame) starting at left tackle and Alex Lewis (fourth round, Nebraska) starting at left guard. Dixon will make that three prominent rookies on offense. Add Breshad Perriman, who looked very good in the final preseason game—he’s a big guy with separation ability—and that’s a good infusion of talent for Joe Flacco.
4. The Texans gamble with youth—extreme youth. Cutting 28-year-old Cecil Shorts III means that all five Texan wideouts are 24 or younger: DeAndre Hopkins, Jaelen Strong, Braxton Miller, Will Fuller and Keith Mumphery. … Also in Houston, coach Bill O’Brien said there’s a decent chance J.J. Watt could return from disk surgery in time for the opener against Chicago on Sunday.
5. Brother acts. Sixth-round San Diego fullback Derek Watt made the Chargers and will, if active, try to keep J.J. Watt from messing up Philip Rivers when the Chargers and Texans meet Nov. 27 in Houston. Undrafted free-agent fullback Glenn Gronkowski made his hometown Bills and will see big bro Rob on Oct. 2 and Oct. 30 in the Bills-Pats games.
6. Cleveland is playing for DeShaun Watson—and the next DeShaun Watson. The Browns, in shipping cornerback Justin Gilbert to Pittsburgh for a 2018 sixth-round pick, now are officially 0-for-6 on first-round picks between 2011 and 2014. But looking ahead, Cleveland has its own first-round pick and Philadelphia’s first-round pick, plus Tennessee’s two and its own two. Theoretically, that could easily give the Browns four picks in the top 40 next April, plus three picks in the first two rounds in 2018.
If the Browns don’t get the top pick next year (and there are overwhelming favorites on the Peter King Big Board), they’ll have enough ammo to move up for Clemson quarterback DeShaun Watson, or be in position to draft UCLA quarterback Josh Rosen (or some other top passer) in the 2018 draft.
7. These three things say it all about Justin Gilbert. One: The Browns couldn’t find a non-division trading partner for the ninth pick in the 2014 draft and so had to deal him to their archrivals. Two: The Steelers’ Achilles heel, the thing they just haven’t been able to get right in recent years, is the corner position. Thus the gamble with an unmotivated player. Gilbert won’t be unmotivated for long under Mike Tomlin and defensive coordinator Keith Butler—or he’ll be gone.
Three: Gilbert couldn’t beat out a fifth-round pick, Trey Caldwell, for a backup job, or a Dolphins’ reject, Jamar Taylor, for a starting job. Taylor was acquired last spring for a swap of seventh-round picks.In other words, Miami traded Taylor so it could move up eight spots in the final round of the draft. That’s the guy who Gilbert couldn’t beat out under new coach Hue Jackson.
8. The Sanchize won’t be playing in Dallas unless Dak Prescott’s a total fraud. Mark Sanchez got whacked in Denver when the Broncos could find no trade takers for him. He’s strictly an insurance policy for Dallas, and no threat to Prescott’s job unless the rookie stinks.
9. Vernon Davis gets a new life. He looked down for the count after being invisible in Denver at the end of last year. But Davis beat out a reliable player, Logan Paulsen, for the prime backup job to Jordan Reed. Jay Gruden is a big fan of tight ends, so the backup in Washington will get quality time.
10. Kansas City shows faith in Tyler Bray, but will really miss Justin Houston. I thought Kevin Hogan would be a great Andy Reid project, and the Stanford kid may have an NFL future still as a member of the Chiefs’ practice squad. But Hogan, a fifth-round pick, and Aaron Murray couldn’t beat out Tyler Bray as the Chiefs’ third QB. Nick Foles sticks as Alex Smith’s backup …
Biggest worry about the Chiefs, to me, is Justin Houston missing at least the first six weeks of the season on the physically unable to perform list. Houston, who led the NFL with 22 sacks in 2014, was a shell of himself for most of last season, missing five games and having 4.5 sacks in the last 11 games he played, then having offseason knee surgery. He’s still not right. The Chiefs are a good team with a potential playoff defense, but that’s diminished significantly without their best pass-rusher.
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The Broncos’ Super Bowl win was the fourth for Gary Kubiak and second for Peyton Manning.
Photo: Christian Petersen/Getty Images
Steve Sabol would be proud
As NFL Films so often does, you’ll see a great telling of the Denver Super Bowl story Wednesday night—first through the eyes of the coaches (“Worth the Wait,” 8 p.m. ET, NFL Network), then in the season highlight show (“America’s Game: 2015 Broncos,” 9 p.m. ET, NFL Network). I screened the coaches’ show, modeled after the Patriots’ “Do Your Job” show last year, which was excellent.
I found a few telling things in “Worth the Wait,” produced by Krys Wong and Adam Ryan, most notably the play-by-play of Kubiak yanking Peyton Manning after Manning missed two days of practice with a sore foot that week and then threw four interceptions in the first half against Kansas City. There’s no science to these things, the difficult decisions a coach makes. They’re gut things, and no textbook way to tell a player. Here’s how Kubiak told Manning he was yanking him:
Kubiak: ”Hey dude, just listen to me talk, okay? Hey, this is on me. I got you, okay?”
Manning: “All right.”
Kubiak: “I can’t [put] you out there and get you hurt. You understand that?”
Manning: “Yup.”
Kubiak: “I had no business putting you out there today anyway, okay?”
Manning: “All right.”
Kubiak: “All right, we’ll get through it. Fair enough?”
Manning: “Yes sir.”
Kubiak: “Okay.”
As Kubiak said later: “I was a little disappointed in myself, I felt bad about putting him out there to be honest. I didn’t think he was ready to play.”
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There is some terrific real football in here. Kubiak, offensive coordinator Rick Dennison and tight ends coach Brian Pariani had been in Baltimore the previous year, when the Ravens went to New England for a playoff game. In that game, the Ravens called a play from the Patriots’ 11-yard line for tight end Owen Daniels to run up the seam against New England’s physical linebacker, Dont’a Hightower.
Daniels was a physical match for Hightower, and he won the ball in the end zone for a touchdown. So in the Denver-New England AFC Championship Game, exactly 53 weeks later, with the core of the 2014 Ravens offensive staff in Denver now, the Broncos lined up at the New England 21 early in a scoreless game.
Amazing, the similarities, this time two time zones away.
Daniels and Kubiak and Dennison and Pariani in Denver now. Daniels on Hightower—again. This time, Daniels flexed into motion across the formation. “They do a great job in beating people up at the line of scrimmage,” Kubiak said in the show. “This time we moved Owen across the ball, to keep him from getting beat up.”
Just then, NFL Films captured Belichick on the New England sideline, from a moment he had previously with the linebackers: “81’s their go-to guy in the red area, okay?”
So Daniels moved away from Hightower, at the left of the formation, to the right, in a gap between Jamie Collins and Rob Ninkovich. As Daniels left the line and ran straight upfield, dissecting Collins and Ninkovich, neither followed him. Mistake in coverage, obviously. With Hightower nowhere in sight, Manning hit an open Daniels for the first points in the narrow win that sent the Broncos to the Super Bowl. Great storyline, and great camera work, on a play that was crucial to Denver winning a world championship.
Two other audio things stuck out. After the crucial Denver strip of Cam Newton in the Super Bowl that gave Denver a short field, running back C.J. Anderson stopped on his way to the field and, wide-eyed, pleaded with Kubiak: “Give it to me! Give it to me!” Kubiak called his number. Touchdown. And after the Super Bowl, Kubiak, in a moment with John Elway on the field in Santa Clara, referenced his previous NFL bling, and winning the Super Bowl as a head coach now. “Those three rings I have?” Kubiak said. “My boys can have ‘em. This one’s mine, baby! This one’s mine!”
It’s high praise indeed to say this show approaches the storytelling and inside access of “Do Your Job.” It’s well worth your hour Wednesday night.
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Stat of the Week
By cutting Mark Sanchez on Saturday, the Broncos chose to keep two passers on the active roster who hadn’t thrown a pass in an NFL game.
Just five-and-a-half years ago, Sanchez was the winning quarterback in Jets’ postseason victories over Peyton Manning and Tom Brady in a span of eight days.
Brady-Manning rating in the two games: 96.2.
Sanchez rating in the two games: 91.2.
Brady-Manning TD-to-interception ratio in the two games: 3-1.
Sanchez TD-to-interception ratio in the two games: 3-1.
Score of the two games, combined: Jets, 45-37.
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Nine Things I Think I Think
1. I think the NCAA is smart to make the week before the NFL season its big kickoff weekend. Look at the cottage industry this weekend has become, with so many great games kicking off when fans on TV and in stadiums are frothing for football. Superb games all over the place, with two huge ones in NFL stadiums: LSU-Wisconsin in Lambeau Field (loved the “Lambeaux Field” shirts sold there in LSU colors) and Alabama-USC at the Cowboys’ home in Arlington. By the way, loved Notre Dame at Texas. Not only a great game, but the kind of intersectional game that should be played more frequently.
2. I think I understand Ron Rivera being angry that teams with the opening Thursday game have it rough on the weekend before that opener, cutting the roster and setting the practice squad and not getting the normal time off before having to play the first game. But the B side to that argument is it gives the two Thursday teams an extra mini-bye in their seasons. Denver and Carolina get the weekend off before having to prepare for their Week 2 games, and I can guarantee you most players would want it that way—play early, play on national TV, and get three days off before the next week starts.
3. I think you'll see my Super Bowl pick Wednesday on this site. Not that it matters. I stink at picking those things. My predictions in general are awful. One hint: Picking two longtime doormats to win divisions this year. Not picking either to make the Super Bowl, but you've to walk before you run.
4. I think kudos go to two charitable sorts in the past few days: Indy punter Pat McAfee, for a benefit that raised $150,000 for relief for Kokomo (Ind.) hurricane victims … and to the NFL, for getting $50,000 to Denham Springs (La.) High School’s football program, which had most of its football uniforms and equipment destroyed by the floods that hit the area. The NFL will give $500,000 in all to the area for crucial needs.
5. I think one guy who stuck out to me on the cut list over the weekend was Tony Moeaki, the tight end who missed 48 games in six seasons due to injuries, and got let go by the Bears. Early on with the Chiefs, Moeaki blocked and caught like a future Pro Bowler, and just couldn’t stay on the field. Shame. After five teams let him go, he might not have a future.
6. I think it’s great that the 2017 draft will be held in Philadelphia. The more cities that get to host, the better. Still think Green Bay and Canton should be on the list, money be damned. (Not enough hotels in Green Bay, you say? So what. Make it a co-hosting affair with Milwaukee.)
7. I think the one stadium fix/opening of 2016 that I hadn’t focused on much was in Miami, but then I saw pictures of the improvements in the past few days. Two interesting things about the Dolphins’ new venue: 92 percent of the seats will be shaded by a giant canopy, as opposed to 17 percent in the past. And the grass is new for a pro football field. It’s called Paspalum Platinum grass. The Dolphins say it grows well in shade and in hot, humid climates, and is thicker than normal turf grasses.
8. I think Colin Kaepernick’s pig/police socks, though protected by freedom of expression, are divisive and very bad form nonetheless. Wearing them just inflames a situation that doesn’t need it. Point made, man.
9. I think, though I covered the Giants’ glory years for Newsday in the 80s, and consider myself well-versed about that era of Giants’ history, the new Jerry Barca book, “Big Blue Wrecking Crew: Smashmouth Football, a Little Bit of Crazy and the ’86 Super Bowl Champion New York Giants,” taught me a lot about that team. Such as this: When the Giants hired Bill Belichick as a special teams coach and defensive assistant in 1979, he had to move to New Jersey in the middle of interest rates skyrocketing.
He couldn’t afford it. So, according to Barca’s book, owner Wellington Mara stepped in and co-signed the down payment for the 27-year-old Belichick to buy his house. As Barca quotes Belichick: “I will always be indebted to Wellington Mara for the faith and support he showed me. I was a young nobody coaching special teams.” That’s the kind of detail work that marks this book, and makes it worth reading.
At Last.. Tre Mason still absent from Rams
- By Orchid
- RAMS / NFL TALK
- 21 Replies
It appears that the NFL and NFLPA are trying to help this young man. Thank you.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/
Tre Mason still absent from Rams
Posted by Mike Florio on September 4, 2016, 8:25 PM EDT
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As the Rams begin preparations for their regular-season opener at Santa Clara, they still don’t have running back Tre Mason on the roster.
“Tre Mason is on our Reserve/Did Not Report list, that’s where he stands,” coach Jeff Fisher told reporters on Sunday. “We’ve been in communication with the family, not Tre, but with the family. The organization’s position, including the league and the [NFL] Players Association, is to take care of him and help him to get the help that he needs to get through this life crisis that he’s having.”
Mason is in the same posture as a holdout. He can return at any time until the Tuesday after Week 10, and he will be unpaid until he does. If/when he reports, the Rams will have to decide whether to reinstate him to the roster, to cut him or trade him, or to place him on the non-football illness or injury list, based on his condition when he arrives.
For Mason, the first challenge is to resolve apparent mental-health issues that have plagued him for months. We wish him the best.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/
Tre Mason still absent from Rams
Posted by Mike Florio on September 4, 2016, 8:25 PM EDT
As the Rams begin preparations for their regular-season opener at Santa Clara, they still don’t have running back Tre Mason on the roster.
“Tre Mason is on our Reserve/Did Not Report list, that’s where he stands,” coach Jeff Fisher told reporters on Sunday. “We’ve been in communication with the family, not Tre, but with the family. The organization’s position, including the league and the [NFL] Players Association, is to take care of him and help him to get the help that he needs to get through this life crisis that he’s having.”
Mason is in the same posture as a holdout. He can return at any time until the Tuesday after Week 10, and he will be unpaid until he does. If/when he reports, the Rams will have to decide whether to reinstate him to the roster, to cut him or trade him, or to place him on the non-football illness or injury list, based on his condition when he arrives.
For Mason, the first challenge is to resolve apparent mental-health issues that have plagued him for months. We wish him the best.
Complete guide to the 2016 Rams Practice Squad with projections
- By JKBOGEN
- RAMS / NFL TALK
- 1 Replies
Complete guide to the 2016 Rams Practice Squad with projections
http://www.downtownrams.com/single-...the-2016-Rams-Practice-Squad-with-projections
September 4, 2016 | By: Jake Ellenbogen
The Rams announced their cuts to get down to the 53-man roster but there is still something that needs to be done. That is putting together a 10-player practice squad. Here are the rules of the practice squad.
Here is a list of rams cuts that are eligible for the Rams practice squad:
QB: Dylan Thompson
RB: Aaron Green, Terrence Magee
WR: Paul McRoberts, Duke Williams, Austin Hill, Marquez North, David Richards
TE: Benson Browne
OL: Isaiah Battle, Jordan Swindle
DL: Morgan Fox, Ian Seau, Zach Colvin
LB: Cameron Lynch, Brandon Chubb, Darreon Herring
DB: Mike Jordan, Jabriel Washington, Rohan Gaines, Jordan Lomax
K: Taylor Bertolet
Here is a list of some other cuts that are eligible for the Rams practice squad:
QB: Jake Rudock (DET), Joel Stave (MIN), Jeff Driskel (SF), Jameill Showers (DAL), Kevin Hogan (KC)
RB: Marshaun Coprich (NYG), Brandon Wegher (CAR), David Cobb (TEN), Kelvin Taylor (SF), John Crockett (GB), Jhurell Pressley (MIN), Tyler Gaffney (NE), Peyton Barber (TB), Zac Brooks (SEA), Mack Brown (WAS)
WR: Kenny Lawler (SEA), Keyarris Garrett (CAR), Daniel Braverman (CHI), Anthony Dable (NYG), Moritz Boehringer (MIN), Kenny Bell (TB), DeMarcus Ayers (PIT), Keenan Reynolds (BAL), Devon Cajuste (SF)
TE: Rico Gathers (DAL), Henry Krieger-Coble (DEN), Danny Vitale (TB), Thomas Duarte (MIA), Beau Sandland (CAR)
OL: Willie Beavers (MIN), Tyler Marz (TEN)
DL: Matt Ioannidis (WAS), Ra'Zahn Howard (HOU)
LB: Kache Palacio (SEA), Taiwan Jones (NYJ), Shaq Riddick (ARI), Victor Ochi (BAL), Travis Feeney (PIT)
DB: Harlan Miller (ARI), Zack Sanchez (CAR), JaCorey Shepherd (PHI), Kalan Reed (TEN), Cre'Von Leblanc (NE), Nick Marshall (JAX), Blake Countess (PHI), Winston Rose (IND)
So how would you put together a 10-man practice squad out of so many intriguing players? That is the main question every coach will have to ask themselves tomorrow. For now here's two 10-man practice squad lists that I put together. One of them is all Rams I feel they should keep and the other is a mixture of Rams and other players that were cut.
Read more...
http://www.downtownrams.com/single-...the-2016-Rams-Practice-Squad-with-projections
September 4, 2016 | By: Jake Ellenbogen
The Rams announced their cuts to get down to the 53-man roster but there is still something that needs to be done. That is putting together a 10-player practice squad. Here are the rules of the practice squad.
- Starting September 4th at 1:00pm EST All NFL teams can put together a 10-man practice squad which consists of players that can practice during the week with teams but can't play in-game unless they are promoted to the active 53-man roster.
- Teams can only keep 10 players on their practice squad.
- Teams can sign anyone off any practice squad but they must be placed on their active roster.
- Teams can sign four players to the practice squad that have had two years of NFL experience (year = 6 games).
- Teams can't have a player on the practice squad for more than three seasons.
- Teams must pay practice squad players a minimum of 6,900 per week but teams can also pay more to make it tougher for other teams to come in and sign away their player.
- Salary paid to practice squad player don't count towards the salary cap.
- If a player is signed to the active roster via the practice squad they are required to be paid for three games regardless if they are cut after the first game or not.
- If a player is released from a practice squad they can be signed to another. A team won't need to put them on the active roster unless they are signing them off another's practice squad.
Here is a list of rams cuts that are eligible for the Rams practice squad:
QB: Dylan Thompson
RB: Aaron Green, Terrence Magee
WR: Paul McRoberts, Duke Williams, Austin Hill, Marquez North, David Richards
TE: Benson Browne
OL: Isaiah Battle, Jordan Swindle
DL: Morgan Fox, Ian Seau, Zach Colvin
LB: Cameron Lynch, Brandon Chubb, Darreon Herring
DB: Mike Jordan, Jabriel Washington, Rohan Gaines, Jordan Lomax
K: Taylor Bertolet
Here is a list of some other cuts that are eligible for the Rams practice squad:
QB: Jake Rudock (DET), Joel Stave (MIN), Jeff Driskel (SF), Jameill Showers (DAL), Kevin Hogan (KC)
RB: Marshaun Coprich (NYG), Brandon Wegher (CAR), David Cobb (TEN), Kelvin Taylor (SF), John Crockett (GB), Jhurell Pressley (MIN), Tyler Gaffney (NE), Peyton Barber (TB), Zac Brooks (SEA), Mack Brown (WAS)
WR: Kenny Lawler (SEA), Keyarris Garrett (CAR), Daniel Braverman (CHI), Anthony Dable (NYG), Moritz Boehringer (MIN), Kenny Bell (TB), DeMarcus Ayers (PIT), Keenan Reynolds (BAL), Devon Cajuste (SF)
TE: Rico Gathers (DAL), Henry Krieger-Coble (DEN), Danny Vitale (TB), Thomas Duarte (MIA), Beau Sandland (CAR)
OL: Willie Beavers (MIN), Tyler Marz (TEN)
DL: Matt Ioannidis (WAS), Ra'Zahn Howard (HOU)
LB: Kache Palacio (SEA), Taiwan Jones (NYJ), Shaq Riddick (ARI), Victor Ochi (BAL), Travis Feeney (PIT)
DB: Harlan Miller (ARI), Zack Sanchez (CAR), JaCorey Shepherd (PHI), Kalan Reed (TEN), Cre'Von Leblanc (NE), Nick Marshall (JAX), Blake Countess (PHI), Winston Rose (IND)
So how would you put together a 10-man practice squad out of so many intriguing players? That is the main question every coach will have to ask themselves tomorrow. For now here's two 10-man practice squad lists that I put together. One of them is all Rams I feel they should keep and the other is a mixture of Rams and other players that were cut.
Read more...
New!! Just stolen from the Rams Web Sight!!
- By DaveFan'51
- RAMS / NFL TALK
- 5 Replies
I just came back from the Rams Official Web Sight, and they have Posted New Photos of the entire 2016 Roster! You should check them out! Here are some "Special" ones I picked out to share with you:
* BEST Photo Award!!
* WORST Photo Award! ( The only photo were the player is NOT in Game Action!)
* Honorable Mention!!
" Because Donald Looks like he's already past these KC Lineman before they knew what hit them!!
Fore you favorites, visit the Rams sight! " I SAVED THEM ALL TO MY LIBRARY!!"
* BEST Photo Award!!
* WORST Photo Award! ( The only photo were the player is NOT in Game Action!)
* Honorable Mention!!
" Because Donald Looks like he's already past these KC Lineman before they knew what hit them!!
Fore you favorites, visit the Rams sight! " I SAVED THEM ALL TO MY LIBRARY!!"
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Fantasy Football Poll
- By jsimcox
- GENERAL SPORTS TALK
- 5 Replies
So, I'm usually massively against people asking other people for advice on fantasy football, but I'm going to break my own rule here and ask for some assistance from my fellow ROD'ers...
I'm really struggling to decide which keepers to pick in one of my leagues and could do with a second opinion.
I have 4 top options and a couple of other players who could also be a shout. Obviously Gurley stays, but I'm struggling to pick two from the other bunch. I was leaning towards Gurley, Gronk and Bell, but his suspension has me considering Green instead! Decisions...
So let me know what you guys think, pick 3 from the 6!
(Before anyone states how easy a league this must be with having these options, i picked up Bell and Murray towards the end of last season when people decided to drop them due to not playing/playing well. )
Thanks guys!
I'm really struggling to decide which keepers to pick in one of my leagues and could do with a second opinion.
I have 4 top options and a couple of other players who could also be a shout. Obviously Gurley stays, but I'm struggling to pick two from the other bunch. I was leaning towards Gurley, Gronk and Bell, but his suspension has me considering Green instead! Decisions...
So let me know what you guys think, pick 3 from the 6!
(Before anyone states how easy a league this must be with having these options, i picked up Bell and Murray towards the end of last season when people decided to drop them due to not playing/playing well.
)Thanks guys!
