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What life is like behind bars for O.J. Simpson: Prisoner 1027820

http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-et-st-oj-simpson-life-behind-bars/

What life is like behind bars for O.J. Simpson
Prisoner 1027820

By DAVID NG

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Prisoner 1027820 is treated in many ways like any other inmate at the Lovelock Correctional Center in Nevada.

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He gets the same standard issue blue uniform. He shares a bunk, toilet and sink with a cellmate. He rises around 6:30 a.m., eats an early breakfast — he likes cold cereal, with a muffin and fruit — then heads to his work shift.

He toils in the prison gym, cleaning equipment and mopping floors, four days a week. Like many older inmates, he contends with age and ailments, including bad knees, and he works out on weight machines regularly to stay fit. He also coaches prison sports teams, umpires games and recently became prison softball league commissioner.

But prisoner 1027820 isn’t just another inmate. He is O.J. Simpson: football legend and convicted felon serving nine to 33 years for armed robbery and kidnapping committed in 2007.

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“He’s popular especially with the sports crowd — guys go up to him and ask him what he thinks about current sports teams,” said Jon Hawkins, a former Lovelock inmate who was released on parole this year. Mostly, he said, “O.J. is just a regular dude. He does his job and he goes to his cell.”

If Simpson’s mundane and routine life on the inside is hidden from all but fellow inmates and guards, on the outside his life has become the subject of heightened fascination by millions, thanks to two acclaimed TV series that revisit the “trial of the century.”

His acquittal in 1995 of the murders of his ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ronald Goldman provides the climax of the FX drama series “The People v. O.J. Simpson: American Crime Story,” nominated for 22 Emmy Awards. The Primetime Emmy Awards will air live at 4 p.m. Sunday on ABC.

Another program, the five-part ESPN documentary “O.J.: Made in America,” which explores the racial history of Los Angeles through the lens of Simpson’s life, has garnered critical plaudits, and is being touted for Academy Award consideration. The nearly eight-hour documentary explores the double homicide as well as the 2007 armed robbery and kidnapping in Las Vegas that ultimately put him in jail.

For all their acclaim, however, it is unlikely that Simpson has seen either program. Simpson, who didn’t respond to a request for comment sent via prison email, has a TV in his cell and watches sports religiously, according to those who have had contact with him in prison, including his former manager and a retired guard.

But the prison limits what inmates can view. Nevada Dept. of Corrections spokeswoman Brooke Keast said there are about 10 to 15 approved channels — including educational channels and local stations — and FX isn’t one.

Though inmates generally can watch ESPN, they weren’t allowed to view the Simpson documentary. “It is inappropriate and can be a safety and security risk to transmit information about an inmate to the rest of the inmate population,” Keast said.

It remains unclear if Simpson will be able to watch the Emmy broadcast, which is likely to feature brief clips from the FX series. Keast said state prisons get ABC and it would be up to officials at individual prisons to block a program if they feel there’s a safety or security issue. But she said she has received no confirmation from Lovelock either way.

Simpson wasn’t visited or interviewed by actors or producers of the FX series for insight into his perspective.

“I didn’t feel the need to meet him, to see him in prison in his present condition,” explained Cuba Gooding Jr., who played Simpson on the show, noting that the series focused on the years before his current imprisonment.

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O.J. Simpson appears during his sentencing hearing for kidnapping and armed robbery charges in 2013. (Isaac Brekken / Associated Press)

O.J.’s life behind bars

The O.J. of the FX series might be shocked to see the O.J. of today. Simpson’s home for the last eight years, Lovelock, could hardly be further from his past: the bustling campus of USC where he first came to fame, the bright lights of NFL stadiums, his upscale Brentwood residence, the tense Los Angeles courtroom where he was acquitted of murder.

The small rural town sits 90 miles northeast of Reno on Interstate 80, amid scenic mountains, cow pastures and a smattering of small casinos. Its civilian population is about 2,000 — barely more than the 1,680 inmates at its medium-security men’s state prison, where Simpson was sent after being convicted of armed robbery and kidnapping.

The inmates include convicted murderers and rapists. Still, the prison is known as one of the better correctional facilities in Nevada for serving time — a prison that most inmates would choose if they could.

Simpson landed here for his role in the Las Vegas incident — a botched operation that he claimed was an attempt to retrieve property that he claimed belonged to him, including sports memorabilia in the possession of two dealers.

During the sentencing, Judge Jackie Glass rebuked Simpson after he suggested that he had merely acted out of stupidity. “Earlier in this case, at a bail hearing, I asked — said — to Mr. Simpson I didn’t know if he was arrogant or ignorant or both,” the judge said. “And during the trial and through this proceeding, I got this answer, and it was both.”

Early in his sentence, Simpson had trouble adjusting to life in lockdown, becoming sullen and introverted, according to Norman Pardo, his former manager, who said he visited his client during his first few years in jail.

He stayed to himself and really just wanted “to be left alone,” said Pardo. He described Simpson as “depressed” during this period.

Though Simpson was initially a loner at Lovelock and had some trouble with fellow prisoners, he has since evolved into a model inmate determined to make parole — which could happen as early as next year, when Simpson will be 70.

“I would say 99.9% of inmates like him — they look up to him,” said Jeffrey Felix, a retired Lovelock prison guard who said he had contact with Simpson for several years and wrote a book about the experience titled “Guarding the Juice.”

At Lovelock, “there are no violent incidents. It’s a kickback kind of place,” said William Mark Clarke, a retired Nevada corrections officer. He said Simpson would have a tougher time in other Nevada facilities, such as the Southern Desert Correctional Center, which have more gang activity.

The cell that Simpson usually shares with one other inmate is about 125 square feet in size, and about 25% larger than the average Lovelock cell. There is a double bunk and Simpson sleeps on the bottom bunk, according to Felix. The former guard added that each prison unit has four larger cells and Simpson just happened to get assigned one, though he didn’t know if it was a random cell assignment.

The prison spokeswoman said she couldn’t comment directly on Simpson’s living conditions but said that cell sizes are uniform with the exception of handicapped cells that are a bit larger to accommodate wheelchairs.

Simpson, who attended USC from fall 1967 to spring 1969 but didn’t complete a degree, has taken some of the vocational training and educational classes at Lovelock that allow prisoners to pursue a high school and even college degree. He said during a 2013 parole hearing, “I find the courses somewhat educational even though it’s tough to hear other guys’ things.”

After initially being withdrawn, Simpson in recent years has become more social, mingling with fellow prisoners who often refer to him by his nickname, “Juice.”

"O.J. has always been an upbeat guy. I just don’t think [being in prison] is going to set him back,” said Joe Bell, a childhood friend who said he has kept informed of Simpson’s activity through the ex-athlete’s family. Bell said that he is unable to visit Lovelock because of his own record.

Added Bell: “O.J is still a really popular guy amongst guys. Most people who follow football relish the opportunity to be in his presence.” Simpson still gets fan mail and is thinking of resuming his lucrative autographing business if he is released, according to Bell and Felix, the retired guard.

He is also benefiting from the facility’s relatively comfortable standard of living.

For a period, Simpson wasn’t watching what he was eating and gained weight, according to Pardo, his former manager. Typical dinners at Lovelock, considered better than in other Nevada prisons though still standard cafeteria fare, include tacos, spaghetti and lasagna. And Simpson has a weakness for cookies, which perhaps aggravated his diabetes. Once a paragon of athleticism, his frame grew thicker, his face puffier.

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O.J. Simpson in court in 2013. (Julie Jacobson / Associated Press)

But the former football star now tries to keep in shape despite the knee problems that stem from his athlete days. He walks laps around the prison’s quarter-mile track and works out at the prison gym, which features about 15 weight machines and some stationary bikes.

Though his knees keep him from competing in sports, he coaches prison sports teams and umpires games. Recently, Simpson became prison softball league commissioner, which involves overseeing umpires, deciding questions about rules and monitoring games.

“He was real low key,” said Randy Gaess, a former Lovelock inmate who said he umpired softball games alongside Simpson.

“He would [umpire] behind home plate because there was little movement necessary. We would talk if we had to about the calls.”

In recent weeks, Simpson skipped his regular walks around the track “because of his knees,” said Gaess, who was released in August. “He doesn’t spend as much time there as he used to.”

For the most part, Simpson gets along with other inmates, though that hasn’t always been the case with some of his cellmates because they often end up feeling treated like “his servants,” said Felix, the former guard. “They clean and he buys the food,” from the prison commissary.

Felix said that Simpson has kept a photo of himself and Nicole Brown Simpson on a shelf in his cell. Prison officials would not confirm if Simpson does so.

O.J. faces uncertain future

However different Simpson’s life on the outside was from his fellow inmates, he has one thing in common with everyone on the inside: He wants to get out.

“He’s the perfect candidate for parole. That’s all he thinks about. If he gets into a conflict [with another inmate], he backs out. He wants to be a free man again,” said Felix, the retired prison guard.

In 2013, the Nevada Board of Parole Commissioners noted Simpson’s positive disposition when they granted him parole on some of his convictions, including kidnapping and robbery, but he remained behind bars on other counts, including assault with a deadly weapon.

At the hearing, a parole official described Simpson as being “disciplinary free.” Simpson said that other inmates even seek his counsel. “I advise a lot of guys and I like to think I keep a lot of trouble from happening,” he told the parole board.

He also expressed remorse for the Las Vegas incident, telling the board that he didn’t intend to rob anyone. “At no point did I go there to take any property that didn’t belong to me,” he said.

These days Simpson is said to be focusing on his children. “Family always has been important to him. That’s all he thinks about — there’s really nothing else that matters,” said Pardo, his former manager.

Simpson has two grown children with Nicole — Sydney, 30, and Justin, 27, who both reside in Florida. He has a son, Jason, 46, and daughter, Arnelle, 47, with his first wife, Marguerite.

Simpson stays in contact with family and friends by phone. His children declined to comment and have generally avoided talking about their father to the media. When reached by phone, Arnelle, who wrote a letter of support to parole officials on behalf of all four children, declined to comment.

Even if he is paroled next year, Simpson’s legal woes won’t be over. He will likely face a mountain of financial obligations, including the $33.5-million judgement against him in the 1997 civil case for the murders of his ex-wife and Goldman.

He “has never honored or paid one single penny of the judgment,” Fred Goldman, father of Ron Goldman, told The Times.

The Goldman family wants “to enforce the judgment so that Simpson doesn’t profit from what he did,” said Daniel Petrocelli, an attorney for the family. Any payments would be divided between the Goldmans and the Browns.

Those who have spoken to Simpson at Lovelock said that he is preoccupied with financial challenges he will face if and when he is released. He continues to draw an NFL pension that some reports have estimated as high as $19,000 per month. The NFL declined to comment. (Simpson played for the Buffalo Bills and the San Francisco 49ers.)

He also receives an unknown amount of royalties from his movies, which include the science fiction thriller “Capricorn One” and “The Naked Gun” comedy trilogy, and TV shows.

As he serves his time, his legal saga has become a lucrative business for many people, but not Simpson. The FX series was a ratings windfall, coming in as the most-watched new series on cable so far this year. (Netflix recently acquired the global streaming rights.)

Yet another series based on the murder case is set to arrive in early 2017: “Hard Evidence: O.J. Is Innocent,” on the Investigation Discovery channel, is a documentary that is expected to propose a new suspect in the case.

A parole could happen as early as October 2017, when he will have served the minimum nine years of his sentence. If he is denied, a mandatory parole review is scheduled for April 2022, according to the prison.

Some think parole won’t necessarily be an easy touchdown for the former athlete. “I’m not optimistic,” said Bell, his friend from childhood. “I know parole boards. They’re going to insist that he killed Nicole, even though they’re not supposed to consider that. But they do.”

He said he hopes time in jail will have made Simpson a humbler person and less obsessed with fame.

“But knowing O.J. as I do,” Bell said, “he’s got such a tremendous ego and persona.”

wow-Jets Pre game Quote!

In the Buffalo/Jets Pre game show Bruce Smith, in discussing his Jersey Number being retired said " Did you know that there have only been 150 Jersey Numbers Retired!?! This is a Great Honor!" And it's well Deserved!!

I didn't know this fact!!

The Rams have 8 Retired numbers! 7-28-29-74-75-78-80 and 85!

I just thought Trivia Buff's would like this!! ( I don't know which team in the NFL has the most Retired Numbers!)

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Selassie I Service Anouncement

I realize that the Monday Night Misery has given us all a very bad taste in our mouths. Lots of things to question. Disappointment. And even embarrassment.

We can discuss all of these things here. That is not the problem.

The problem I'm seeing is this... since Monday... some are apparently thinking that it's O.K. now to start resorting to childish name calling and complete disrespect for Ram Ownership/Management on down through the Coaches and Players. That doesn't fly here... never has. This needs to be cleaned up starting now. I will assist if I need to.

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Visited practice 9/15

As mentioned before, I live across the street from the Rams temporary practice fields at CLU. I watched 30 minutes of practice last week and it was one of the last practices before the Rams left for San Francico. These practices are closed practices but they were allowing the residents to watch and take photos but no videos as compensation for the horns and yelling that comes with running practices.

Today, I walked over to the fields because I heard them practicing and thought I would watch for a little while before going to work. The vibe was completely different today. First of all, they were playing loud music while they practiced. I think I heard "Jump around" by house of pain and "Welcome to the Jungle" while I was there. You probably noticed that I only mentioned two songs right? That's because they hired actual security to guard the perimeter as they do not allow anyone to view practice anymore. This may be a result of too many people causing a disturbance to these closed practices or the fact that the Rams got destroyed Monday night so they do not want to take any chances with people "spying" on the plays they are running.

I apologize that I was not able to take any new pictures for you guys as I brought a better camera. I got kicked out within 10 minutes of watching. I was watching Hekker make punts and he was booming them across the field. He is probably getting ready to punt a lot this Sunday. Let's hope that's not the case.
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I also got really excited with Goff taking reps, but then I realized that Gurley and co. were on the sidelines suggesting he was running with the twos or threes. He did miss a couple completions in the limited amount of snaps I saw. Keenum then took the field and the only play I saw before getting kicked out was a handoff to Gurley.

I know that this thread does not provide any new information but I thought it was interesting that they are being more strict about letting residents watch practice after Monday night and that they changed the vibe of practice.

The Raiders have applied for permission to relocate to Las Vegas

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...nds-750m-in-public-money-for-raiders-stadium/

Tourism committee recommends $750M in public money for Raiders stadium
Posted by Josh Alper on September 15, 2016

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The push for a stadium for the Raiders in Las Vegas took another step forward on Thursday.

The Southern Nevada Tourism Infrastructure Committee voted unanimously to recommend the proposal to build a stadium for the Raiders and that recommendation will now be sent to Governor Brian Sandoval and the state legislature for the next steps in the process.

The proposal recommended by the SNTIC on Thursday calls for $750 million in public money be used for the construction of the stadium with developers and the Raiders putting up another $650 million. While the proposal calls for $750 million, there is no cap on public contributions to the project — Alternative B on Decision Point 2 of the draft recommendation — to ensure it meets the standard of a “premier National Football League facility.”

The panel’s recommendation doesn’t mean that the project will meet legislative approval or that the Raiders will wind up in Vegas if it does, but it’s another step toward making that a real possibility for the future of the franchise.

The Big TV Series Thread

I figured because we have no such thread here it was time we started one!
I didn't want to create threads for each individual show and season. Made more sense to start a big one to house them all!

The most recent TV series I've seen are Stranger Things and American Horror Story.

The wife, who can't sit through a horror movie, loved Stranger Things. It's an awesome series by Netflix with a great 70's feeling. The acting is great, the story is interesting and I absolutely love the soundtrack; it's one of the BEST I've ever heard. You can literally binge watch it in one day but I guarantee you'll be left wanting more. I can't wait for season 2. Not recommended to watch with kids due to the nature of the content and language. Here's a trailer:

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As far as American Horror Story goes, I've seen every episode of every season up until the episode that aired yesterday (season 6, episode 1). I've loved every single season but I have to admit that the best were the first two. It's definitely worth a binge watch to catch up but will undoubtedly take you a while. The story goes that all 6 seasons are connected in some way, with season 6 tying a lot of them together (finally!). I don't want to give too much away but each season is something different: horror house, witchcraft, asylum, carnival, vampires...pretty diverse in terms of horror themes. Strong recommendation for you horror buffs. Definitely not recommended to watch with kids due to the nature of content, language, gore and strong sexual content.

What are you watching?
The wife and I are going to be starting Narcos sometime this weekend. I've heard great things about it.

David Carr: Difference between Carson Wentz, Jared Goff is the reps

http://www.fresnobee.com/sports/nfl/article101807917.html

By David Carr

Special to The Bee

When the Eagles made the decision to trade Sam Bradford and put in a rookie quarterback, a lot of heads were spinning. I’m sure that in Philly they were ready to completely lose it.

But the kid, Carson Wentz, comes out and plays great and what we saw the other day was exactly what we saw in the preseason and exactly what we saw in college. The downfield accuracy is there. The arm strength is there. He’s able to move. The mental processing is there. He’s going to make some mistakes, but all young guys are going to make mistakes. It’s a process. But just like my brother Derek, the game wasn’t too much for him. I wasn’t surprised. I think a lot of us were expecting this.

I was in the minority back in the spring when they were going back and forth between Carson and Cal quarterback Jared Goff as far as who should be the first pick in the draft (Goff went to the Los Angeles Rams with the No. 1 overall pick and Wentz No. 2 to Philadelphia), but there were significant differences in where they were coming out of college and in their ability to make a quick impact in the NFL.

It’s all an estimated guess by everyone who is throwing their two cents in. I wasn’t really that concerned about the level of play that Wentz went up against at North Dakota State, an FCS school. I was more concerned about what Cal asked Goff to do in college as opposed to what North Dakota State asked Wentz to do in college from an offensive perspective.

Wentz was in a more pro-style offense. It wasn’t necessarily the intangibles. (He showed his leadership qualities when he got hurt and worked his tail off to get back on the field.) It was more what they asked him to do at the line of scrimmage. He checked at the line. He moved protections. He threw on time and in rhythm in pro-style concepts. The arm strength was there. Everything was there. He was the clear No. 1 guy for me, and I think for a lot of people.

Watching his first preseason game, it was the same stuff. He wasn’t flustered. It wasn’t too much for him because mentally he was prepared for it. What coach Doug Pederson was asking him to execute, he had seen all of that, and the most important thing when you’re getting into that situation is what you’ve done before.

NFL quarterbacks have to learn protections. They have to learn where the hot guys are and which adjustments to make. In Wentz’s first preseason game, he faced a defense rushing seven and the Eagles only had six blockers. One guy was free. Wentz pointed it out to his slot receiver. The slot receiver made the adjustment. Wentz threw a little 8-yard slant against Cover Zero, with no deep help, and it was a successful play. Right then, you knew. It was his first action in the NFL and right then you knew he understood protections, he understood how to get the ball out with timing – he knows how to beat a blitz.

He was not afraid of the moment. That one play spoke volumes because that’s the hardest thing to teach. If you have that when you come in, you’re already a leg up on everybody else.

Goff, on the other hand, was never asked to throw hots. He was never asked to see the coverage and understand who you’re throwing against. Cal’s system is based on progression – you throw it here or you throw it here. Cal isn’t worried about what coverage the defense is in. They’re not worried about protections. Cal’s plan: Our scheme is going to beat what you run.

That’s great in college. You can score a lot of points doing that. But it doesn’t help you as far as understanding where to go against two-man, where to go against Cover Three, what routes beat certain coverages. You end up going from your X to your Y to your Z and that’s it, and for the most part you can do it, but it doesn’t help you transition your game into the NFL.

I’m not saying that Goff wasted his whole college career in an offense that’s not going to help him transition, because he threw pro-style concepts. This is a small piece to the puzzle. But that piece is huge in the NFL because you’re going to get tested to see if you know your protections, to see if you know where to go against a blitz and if you haven’t had those reps, like Goff hadn’t, you’re behind. That’s why he’s not starting in Los Angeles and Wentz is starting in Philadelphia and it really is that 5 percent to 10 percent of those reps throughout his college career that helped him be ahead.

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9/14 Practice Report: Keenum, Offense Moving On to Seattle

Practice Report 9/14: Keenum, Offense Moving On to Seattle

By Myles Simmons

[www.therams.com]


Before Monday night’s loss to the 49ers, quarterback Case Keenum had gone through a solid offseason program, preseason, and first week of practice. While that did not translate to a strong performance to open the year, Keenum is undeterred as he learns from the outing in preparation for the Seahawks on Sunday.

“I’ve just got to let the game come to me,” Keenum said Wednesday. “Take what the defense gives me. Trust my teammates — they do a great job. And get the ball out of my hands to the right place.”

According to the quarterback, one of his most significant issues was probably overthinking what he saw on the field instead of trusting his instincts and offensive rules.

“I over-thought a lot of things,” Keenum said. “I think that I was seeing ghosts — I was seeing things that weren’t there. I wasn’t trusting myself and my abilities.

“They gave us some different looks,” Keenum added. “For us, we’ve always said, ‘We trust our rules.’ So that’s why our coaches do a great job of preparing us to have rules that can fix anything in a game.”


Head coach Jeff Fisher said Wednesday that this week, he’s looking for Keenum to capitalize when the offense has chances.

“Case made some plays and then missed some opportunities,” Fisher said. “But every game you watch, quarterbacks are missing opportunities. So we have to just make sure we take advantage of those opportunities when they’re there.”

Wide receiver Kenny Britt, who has shown strong chemistry with Keenum since the quarterback was inserted into the starting lineup last season, said he’s expecting the Houston product will be fine going forward.

“It’s only the first game,” Britt said. “You over-think stuff because you don’t want to miss stuff. You don’t want to see one thing and then it be the next thing. So I know things will calm down for him.”

One of the games where Keenum and Britt best displayed their strong chemistry came last year against the Seahawks in Week 16. In the Rams’ 23-17 victory, the duo connected on a 28-yard play-action pass for a diving touchdown — with Britt getting the best of cornerback Richard Sherman on the play.

“Go back to film from the last few years that helped us out, especially the plays that worked for us,” Britt said of what he’s looking at on film this week. “Capitalize on everything we see out there.”

One of the reasons the Rams can go back and intently study what the Seahawks have done in years past is because their defensive scheme has stayed consistent. Seattle runs a Cover 3-based system, and while they will do some tweaks off of that, the foundation is the same.

“They do what they do and they do it well,” Keenum said. “Their secondary is one of the best — obviously. And their front seven — or eight, if you’ll call it with [safety Kam] Chancellor coming down in the box, too — it’s a great run-stopping box, too. So we’ve got our work cut out for us.”


“They’re sound fundamentally and you know they’re going to play one defense, and it’s basically going to be the same thing,” Britt said. “They’re not going to change up their defense for anybody. It’s either you’re coming ready to play, or don’t come at all. So we know that we’re going to be strapped in and ready to go.”

But that doesn’t mean it makes it any easier to figure Seattle out. Success in the past does not guarantee success in the present.

“Teams change, players change, and for right now they’ve got some different players on their defense,” offensive lineman Rodger Saffold said. “Scheme is going to be the same, but at the same time, each week, they’re going to have a blitz that’s going to cause some problems that we’re going to have to figure out on the fly.”

“That was that game, it was that team, too,” Keenum said. “Obviously we can learn some stuff from those games, but we’ve got a new challenge ahead of us and a new opportunity, really.”

And so as the team moves on from Monday night’s loss, the offense is looking forward to potentially righting the ship against a division rival.

“All [this] adversity, challenges, it’s really opportunities,” Keenum said. “And that’s the way I’m looking at it.”

“Just trust what you see, and let it fly,” Keenum added.

EXTRA POINTS

— For Wednesday’s injury report, defensive tackle Michael Brockers (thigh), cornerback E.J. Gaines (thigh), wide receiver Pharoh Cooper (shoulder), and wide receiver Nelson Spruce (knee) all did not participate in practice. Cornerback Lamarcus Joyner (foot) participated on a limited basis.

Running back Todd Gurley also did not participate in the session, but only for a day of rest.

“That’s a coach’s decision, he’s inside,” Fisher said. “He’ll be fine. He’ll be out there tomorrow.”

— Tight end Tyler Higbee received his first game action on Monday night, calling it an exciting experience. He made one reception in his NFL debut.

“It was exciting,” Higbee said Wednesday. “Monday night, especially — you get the crowd out there, it’s cool. It’s a little bit [of a] step up from preseason, which is cool. And I enjoyed it.”

What did Higbee learn from his first taste of the regular season?

“Mainly, it’s the first game. Everybody’s good — you have to bring your A-game every week,” Higbee said. “You can’t slack off, you can’t take any plays off. And in order to win, you’ve got to do what you’ve got to do.”

— Seahawks head coach Pete Carroll had his conference call with L.A. media on Wednesday afternoon and said he’s looking forward to being a part of bringing the NFL back to the venue he called home while head coach of the USC Trojans from 2001-2009.

“I’m proud that we get to be the first ones that start this thing,” Carroll said. “For no other reason but I just love Southern California and love the fans and love who they are and what they’re all about. I feel fortunate that we have a chance to add to, kind of the kickoff event to this. That doesn’t amount to a whole lot, it’s just kind of a personal feeling about it. We’re hoping we’re going to play a good football game and the rest of that stuff will take care of itself later on.”

Fisher's target date for Goff is probably WEEK FIVE

The next three games are rough man. Seattle, @ Tampa, and @ Arizona. Tampa looks like a playoff team to me right now with Winston in year 2 playin like a boss, and we embarrassed them last season. Right now I think Fish is praying that Keenum plays well enough to get them through those games and to week five.

Why week five? Because we have Buffalo, then @ Detroit, and Giants, followed by the bye week.

Now, IF Keenum sucks on Sunday? Well, I'd guess they insert the kid in the @ Tampa game and let him settle in there before going to Arizona.

Keenum is playing for his job this Sunday IMO. Fish needs him to show up and play well or he's done.

Did I miss something on the punt return Monday night?

If I remember correctly, there was a punt in the 2nd half, and Austin received it at the 30, and ended up going out of bounds at the 34. There was a penalty (I believe holding), against us, and after the break we got the ball on the 13 yard line. I couldn't figure out how the hell that happened.

Obviously, it had no bearing on the game, I am only asking out of curiosity, What did I miss?

PFT’s Week Two picks...Yikes!

To read all the picks click the link below.
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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/09/15/pfts-week-two-picks-7/

Seahawks at Rams

MDS’s take: The Rams have played well against the Seahawks in recent years, but it won’t happen this time. This Rams team looks awful.

MDS’s pick: Seahawks 20, Rams 7.

Florio’s take: Pete Carroll returns to the Coliseum facing a Rams team that could have a hard time against the best editions of his Trojans.

Florio’s pick: Seahawks 23, Rams 13.

Laquon Treadwell was active but played zero snaps

It seems the Vikings are having issues finding their #1 WR also. See the 2 articles below. We are not the only team that can't seem to get the WR position right.

http://www.startribune.com/laquon-t...sunday-ive-never-been-through-this/393428911/

Laquon Treadwell on not playing Sunday: 'I've never been through this'
Treadwell said coach Mike Zimmer told him before the Titans game that, barring an injury, he would not have a role on offense during his own NFL debut.

By Matt Vensel

SEPTEMBER 14, 2016 — 12:27PM

Laquon Treadwell hardly allowed a reporter to finish asking when the last time was that he was a healthy scratch before the rookie wide receiver, who was active but did not play in Week 1, blurted out, “Never.”

“It was more mentally challenging,” he said. “But you’ve got to go through it, create some fuel, I guess, to play harder. I don’t know. I’ve never been through this. I’ll just come in and work harder and get better.”

Even though starting split end Charles Johnson caught only one pass for five yards in the 25-16 win against the Titans, the Vikings did not give a single snap to Treadwell, the 23rd overall pick in this year’s draft.

Coach Mike Zimmer explained Monday that he “still has work to do.”

Zimmer pointed to fellow wide receiver Stefon Diggs, who did not suit up the first three games of his 2015 rookie season and then exploded in his NFL debut, as an example of playing a rookie when the time is right.

But Treadwell wasn’t interested in comparing their experiences today.

“We’re two different people, though,” the 21-year-old said. “Everybody’s situation is different. Everybody’s situation is different. You’ve just got to keep getting better and go along with the team, keep competing.”

Treadwell said Zimmer told him before the Titans game that, barring an injury, he would not have a role on offense during his own NFL debut.

“We had a brief conversation,” he said. “But it’s part of the game. It’s his call. You’ve got to go with it and keep getting better every week.”

So what does Treadwell feel he needs to do to earn playing time?

“Just be me and continue to compete and get better,” Treadwell said. “That’s all I can do. My role will come whenever they give it to me.”
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Finding a star receiver has become elusive for Vikings
If Stefon Diggs hadn't turned into a quality player in short order, the Vikings would be in deeper trouble at the position. Even with Diggs producing, the Vikings' real-world pecking order is worrisome.
SEPTEMBER 14, 2016 — 12:39PM
by JIM SOUHAN

For decades the Packers have been defined by long-lasting Hall of Fame quarterbacks who produced four Super Bowl victories, and the Vikings for fearsome defensive linemen and talented receivers who have not been able to elevate their teams in the biggest games.

Sunday, when the best rivalry in Minnesota plays for the first time at U.S. Bank Stadium, the Vikings will find themselves in a predicament that once would have been unthinkable but now is the norm. They keep striking out on receivers, meaning the franchise of Ahmad Rashad, Anthony Carter, Jake Reed, Cris Carter and Randy Moss is remarkably dependent on a fifth-round draft pick in his second season who spent his first three NFL games on the inactive list.


Stefon Diggs quickly became the Vikings’ go-to receiver last season and was clearly their top receiver in their opening victory at Tennessee, which is strange, given the resources the team has spent trying to land someone with a more impressive pedigree.

In the past five years, the Vikings have:

• Signed Greg Jennings away from the Packers to give Christian Ponder a quality receiver. That didn’t work out well for Jennings, Ponder or the Vikings, while the Packers easily replaced Jennings.


• Traded for Miami’s Mike Wallace to give Teddy Bridgewater a deep threat. The threat remained idle as Wallace and Bridgewater missed connections on a dozen deep passes in 2015.

• Traded into the first round to draft raw Tennessee receiver Cordarrelle Patterson, who has caught three passes in his past 17 games.

• Signed former fourth-round pick Jarius Wright to a four-year, $14.8 million contract extension, believing they had found their slot receiver. Wright was a healthy scratch Sunday as undrafted free agent Adam Thielen turned into the Vikings’ second-most effective receiver.

If Diggs hadn’t turned into a quality player in short order, the Vikings would be in deeper trouble at the position. Even with Diggs producing, the Vikings’ real-world pecking order is worrisome.

Diggs is their best receiver, and has a chance to become the first Viking to reach 1,000 receiving yards in a season since Sidney Rice in 2009.


Thielen, too often dismissed as a special-teams player who can play a little receiver, might be their second-best option. He looked impressive Sunday and runs sharp routes.

Which Vikings receiver deserves more playing time? Vote here

In a league that favors three-receiver sets, the Vikings do not have a third wideout who inspires confidence.

Patterson is unreliable.

Wright has either fallen out of favor with the coaching staff or has simply been beaten out by the more versatile Thielen, even though Wright’s reputation as a worker and contributor always has been exemplary.


Charles Johnson looked to be Bridgewater’s favorite receiver at the end of the 2014 season and in the summer of 2015.

A rib injury has been used to excuse his invisibility in 2015, but Sunday he once again struggled to get open.

Laquon Treadwell, not Thielen, was supposed to become a complement or superior to Diggs in the starting lineup, but Treadwell did not have a good training camp and did not run an offensive play on Sunday. Perhaps he’s a project who will mature into a good player, but the Vikings’ recent history at the position begs skepticism. If Treadwell couldn’t crack this lineup, he is raw as sushi.

The 32 NFL teams produced only two 100-yard rushers in Week 1. The NFL is and will be a passing league. No. 1 receivers are vital because they either produce big numbers, command extra coverage, or both. Without Diggs, the Vikings would have no one close to qualifying for the job.

Aaron Rodgers might be the league’s best all-around quarterback. Last year, robbed of Jordy Nelson, he posted the worst quarterback rating of his career as a starter. Randall Cobb didn’t handle Nelson’s role well, and Davante Adams made the Packers regret passing on Jacksonville’s spectacular Allen Robinson.


Lead receivers are vital. Only Diggs’ surprising ascension has given the Vikings a receiver they can nominate for the position.

Why we should not get two high or low about the initial performance of Rookie QBs

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/09/15/nfl-quarterbacks-jameis-winston-marcus-mariota-notebook



The Truth About Young QBs
by Albert Breer

Week 1 competency is great for new players, but it’s hardly a predictor of success. Checking in with Jameis Winston and Marcus Mariota, plus more on the Bengals, Adam Gase and what game day is like for an NFL agent

A year ago, Marcus Mariota gave then-Titans offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey a debut that he won’t ever forget.

The second pick in the 2015 draft posted a perfect 158.3 passer rating and that doesn’t even paint the full Picasso here. Mariota hit on 13 of his 15 throws for 209 yards, four touchdowns and no picks in a 42-14 win over Tampa Bay.

“That was quite a game,” Mularkey, now the head coach in Nashville, said Wednesday afternoon. “We didn’t throw much and we won by a lot. We didn’t put a ton of pressure on him. We just asked him to make plays, and guys made plays around him. It was impressive. He certainly wasn’t intimidated by the atmosphere.”

Fun afternoon for the Titans too, but how much could it really tell us? As I’m gonna lay out for you momentarily … not much.

Just like last season, Week 1 was a blast this time around for young quarterbacks, setting up Week 2 for all of us. And so we’ll get to the Bengals taking another shot at the Steelers, Adam Gase getting guys on his program in Miami, some summer trade fallout, a college quarterback to keep an eye on and so much more.

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Marcus Mariota and Jameis Winston met Week 1 last season, with the Titans beating the Bucs.
We start, though, with the explosion onto the scene of a bunch of young gunslingers. Carson Wentz was third-string nine days before the Eagles opener, and looked as good as any quarterback in the league, except maybe Jimmy Garoppolo, who quieted months of questions by helping slay a monster in Arizona. Trevor Siemian came up big when it mattered most, and Dallas coaches had Dak Prescott throw it 45 times.

Afterwards, for better or worse, there was bound to be some brake-pumping—It’s only one game—coming out of each of those teams. You should listen to that. Seriously.

I decided to look a little closer by examining the 14 first-round quarterbacks who started their team’s openers as rookies. (I know Garoppolo and Siemian aren’t rookies, and Prescott isn’t a first-rounder, but this simplified things.) What I found was, well, not a whole lot to hang your hat on. Here they are, sorted by passer rating, in those openers.

QB, Team Comp-Att Yds TD INT Rating
Marcus Mariota, TEN 13-15 209 4 0 158.3
Robert Griffin, WSH 19-26 320 2 0 139.9
Matt Ryan, ATL 9-13 161 1 0 137.0
Cam Newton, CAR 24-37 422 2 1 110.4
EJ Manuel, BUF 18-27 150 2 0 105.5
Carson Wentz, PHI 22-37 278 2 0 101.0
Mark Sanchez, NYJ 18-31 272 1 1 84.3
Jameis Winston, TB 16-33 210 2 2 64.0
Joe Flacco, BAL 15-29 129 0 0 63.7
Sam Bradford, STL 32-55 253 1 3 53.1
Andrew Luck, IND 23-45 309 1 3 52.9
Ryan Tannehill, MIA 20-36 219 0 3 39.0
Matt Stafford, DET 16-37 205 0 3 27.4
Brandon Weeden, CLE 12-35 118 0 4 5.1

Starting in Week 1 is tough for any young guy, but the truth in these numbers—Griffin was better than almost anyone; Manuel and Sanchez were better than Flacco and Luck—is that the degree of difficulty keeps rising, and swallows whole plenty of promising careers.

“The biggest challenge is that it really is different every week,” Mularkey said. “The defenses they’re facing—you got people coming in all different directions, different fronts, personnel, coverages, strengths and weakness. In the NFL vs. college, there’s just so many differences week-in and week-out, and that’s tough. There’s more time leading to the first game, so there’s that too.

“You don’t spend as much time on 2, 3,or 4. You spend a lot of time on 1. And then, they throw you into a regular season week, where you have to do all of it in a condensed amount of time. That’s jarring for a young player.”


So maybe the best way to gauge the difference, in current terms, is to take a look at the most recent examples. Those are in Tennessee and Tampa.

And we can start with Winston, who didn’t puke on his shoes in last year’s opener, but clearly was out dueled by Mariota in a showdown between 2015’s first two picks. In his 2016 opener, Winston was appreciably better, going 23-of-32 for 281 yards and four touchdowns, against a single pick, in a 31-24 win in Atlanta.

Even better, Winston made three-dimensional the improvements that he and QBs coach Mike Bajakian were working. Winston sunk weeks into honing his drop technique and becoming more efficient moving within the pocket. Done and done in Week 1, per his position coach. And Winston also focused on being more willing to check down. Touchdown passes to Charles Sims and Brandon Myers came on, yes, checkdowns.

“Those might not have been plays he’d have made last year,” Bajakian explained.

Winston also showed more command. Where quarterbacks often are given two or three options on each snap, based on what the defense shows them, Winston flashed the ability Sunday to go off the script completely.

“We give him some parameters, and he did a good job of recognizing those times against unscouted looks, when he had to take over,” Bajakian said. “When it comes to the mental side, Jameis is outstanding.”

As for Mariota, his numbers weren’t as gaudy in this year’s opener, and the Titans didn’t win. But the growth was most certainly there in his 25-of-41, 271-yard, two-touchdown, one-pick start to his sophomore season.

Mariota went through more than the typical rookie quarterback does in Year 1. “He had to learn to play through injuries, he really wasn’t healthy the whole year after Week 2, and he learned they can change coaches in midseason, and that’s not an excuse to be distracted,” Mularkey said. And Mariota came out of it with a solid base.

Mularkey and new offensive coordinator Terry Robiskie have cut down the volume in the offense, and given Mariota more control at the line. And the lessons he’s learned aren’t all that different than what the Bucs have taught Winston. Chiefly, it’s been learning when to take chances, and when to play it safe, which showed up in the opener.

“He got us out of a bad situation by throwing it away. There was a bust on a play, it was an option, and there was nowhere to go, and he just threw it out of bounds,” Mularkey said. “In the past, he tried to make more of those. So he did it in the first half, and then he didn’t on one play in the second half, and it cost us a touchdown. But I know he won’t do that again. …

“The big thing is, if we’re in a bad situation, give us a chance to get out of it.”

So obviously, this now keeps moving forward for all the young guys who showed up big in their debuts last weekend. Stepping on that stage is hard for anyone, and harder for quarterbacks. But as we’ve learned, and those guys are about to find out, sustaining a strong start is even more difficult.

“The biggest difference for the college guys coming to the pros, and what they realize, is it’s a really long season,” Bajakian said. “The mental grind, the physical grind, you have to be tough. So whether or not they make it is as much how a player responds to the 16-game season with a four-game preseason and camp starting in July before it. …

“Even for Jameis last year, starting out he had a couple games with multiple turnovers, then 4-5 games in, he hit his stride, and it’s tough to keep that going.”

We’ll find out soon if Wentz and Siemian and Garoppolo and Prescott can.

Tactics... from Fisher

(On if anything stood out about the inability to run the ball consistently yesterday)

“Well they didn’t let us – they weren’t going to let us – their whole defense was setup to that. We had, probably, a half-dozen runs that were close to getting unblocked to the safety with Todd, it’s just that close. Their commitment was to stop the run and then try to get us to make the plays outside. But we wanted to stay with the run because it’s the run game that helps you get the plays outside.”

"....we wanted to STAY WITH THE RUN....""??? NO SH!T...!!!! The 49ers knew that, i knew that, you knew that, my cat knew that !!!

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Positivity Thread

Just to lighten up things and get our minds back on the game we love. We are fans and no one can change what has happened. Poke fun at the team or yourself or anything to get your current state back to the now. Instead of 16-0, now our ceiling is 15-1. Seattle only scored 12 more points than the Rams. Come on group hug everybody :grouphug:

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