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Kupps Status

Whats the insight on Cooper from LA? I am counting on him this week and next to get my team into the playoffs. I traded Davante for him straight up 2 weeks ago. He is listed as a bust this week but I'm thinking he bounces back despite the tough Browns defense as I don't think we can run on them.
Any word?

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Rams' Cooper Kupp: Bust Alert (Start/Sit)


by Jamey Eisenberg
(53 mins ago) Kupp was limping around in Week 12 at Arizona after injuring his ankle in Week 11 against Seattle. It seems like he's playing hurt, and his production hasn't been good for a while. He's scored 6.9 PPR points or less in five games in a row, and it's no longer safe to call Kupp a must-start receiver in the majority of leagues. The emergence of Puka Nacua and Kyren Williams has limited Kupp's upside, and this matchup in Week 13 against the Browns won't be easy. Cleveland is No. 2 in fewest Fantasy points allowed to opposing receivers, and Kupp is just a borderline No. 2 Fantasy receiver in the majority of leagues in this matchup.

IM AT DISNEY WORLD!!!

I’ve never been in the 15 years we’ve lived in central Florida, so for my birthday, my mom flew in my sister and husband and we made it happen

House is almost ready to list so we can move to MN, so this is the last break for a bit…

Anyway, Hollywood Studios today, main park tomorrow and Epcot day after them home

Anyway, I’m so thankful the entire fam stepped up as my birthday isn’t typically a big deal

Rams D soft on opening drives, then adjusts. Why?

Just from casual observation and memory, it seemed to me that the Rams have been giving up a disproportionate amount of their points on the opposing team’s opening drives.

Turns out, I’m right.

The Rams, on average, give up 1.89 points per drive, and allow scores on 38.1% of drives.

On opponents’ opening drives, they give up 3.74 points per drive, allowing points on 63.6% of drives.

So, it would seem that the Rams’ defense has, on average, started slow and been more effective after the initial possession.

Anyone have a reason why this would be?

And, is this good or bad defensive coaching (game planning – bad/in-game adjustments – good?).

Thoughts?

First 3 Picks

There has been a lot of talk about the first 3 picks being 2 QBs and Harrison.

Currently Carolina Arizona and New England own the first three picks.

Carolina has Young from last years draft. Do they admit they made a mistake and draft Caleb or Maye or another QB that is getting high praise.

Arizona has Murray - do they move on?

New England definitely needs a QB.

Los Angeles Rams are impossible to figure out, impossibly fun

Los Angeles Rams are impossible to figure out, impossibly fun​

What are we supposed to make of the Los Angeles Rams this year? The team that won the Super Bowl in the 2021-22 season finished with one of the worst records in the league in 2022 (mostly due to injuries) came back healthy in 2023, but they've had a season full of mixed results. The Rams are currently 5-6 this season, and just when you thought they might be on their way to another double-digit loss season, they pull off a blowout 37-14 win over the Arizona Cardinals.

And they looked as good as that score indicates.

Running back Kyren Williams racked up over 200 yards from scrimmage with two receiving touchdowns. The Rams dominated on the ground with him and Royce Freeman, and they scored 37 points without major contributions (statistically) from Cooper Kupp or Puka Nacua.

This is a completely different Los Angeles Rams team than a couple of years ago, but some of the core pieces remain: Head coach Sean McVay, quarterback Matthew Stafford, wide receiver Cooper Kupp, and defensive lineman Aaron Donald. The roster around those guys, however, looks a lot different. The Rams are one of the youngest teams in the NFL, and we saw an extremely uncharacteristic offseason from general manager Les Snead in which the Rams were sellers, they did almost nothing in free agency, and they stayed put in the NFL Draft.

What the Rams did was put a lot of faith in their head coach, who is one of the best in the NFL. And although things didn't start white hot, by any means, I think you can see things starting to come together for the Rams right now. They're getting healthy at the right time, the young players are developing, and they're getting breakout seasons from players like Kyren Williams and Tutu Atwell.

The Rams have a matchup this coming weekend against the 7-4 Cleveland Browns, which will obviously be a really tough test for them. The Browns have arguably the #1 defense in the entire NFL this season, but they are beaten and battered on both sides of the ball right now. The Rams might be catching them at just the right time to get back to .500 with a record of 6-6.

But after a really down year in 2022, the Rams are fun again, at the very least. Even if they're unpredictable, they are exciting to watch and it's crazy to see a competitive team on the field that looks so different from the star-studded cast we saw out there during that 2021 season.

River's 2.0 Mock 2024 NFL Rams Draft ...

My first mock of the season back in September had us taking an elite Edge & CB during 2024's Free Agency period, ... also a more moderately priced ILB. This remains the same today as it did back then. I spend big with our free agency money for Edge Brian Burns & CB Jaylon Johnson or their near equivalent.

Current Rams UFA players to extend/re-sign are (if the price is right) :
QB - Carson Wentz
OG - Kevin Dotson
S - John Johnson
WR - Demarcus Robinson

Our RFA's & ERFA's are all likely to return :
DL - Jonah Williams
OLB/DE - Mike Hoecht
OL - Alaric Jackson
ILB - Christian Rozeboom
RB - Ronnie Rivers
DE - Earnest Brown



Current 2024 Rams Mock Draft :


1 - LT) JC Latham, Al.
2 - DT) Jer'Zhan Newton, Il.
3a) C/OG - Powers-Johnson, Or.
3b) ILB - Junior Colson, Mi.
4) TE - Cade Stover, Oh.St.
5) RB - MarShawn Lloyd, USC
6a) WR - J. Michael Sturdivant, UCLA
6b) S - Cole Bishop, Ut.
6c) DT - Fabien Lovett, Fl.St.
7a) ILB - Curtis Jacobs, Pn.St.
7b) Edge - Shemar Turner, A&M

Conference Championship Weekend

So what are the must-watch games on your TV boys. Some of them are obvious, like Bama vs Georgia, will be tuned in to those. Personally I feel like Washington is a bit of a fluffed up team, but gonna watch them vs the Ducks for the QBs if nothing else.

Latest top ten is interesting. Since my team is not involved (USC) I really could care less but have to say if Bama wins shit hits the fan like that final scene of Animal House.

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Week 12 v Cardinals PFF top 5's & Bottom 5's


Rams PFF grades: Best and worst performers vs. Cardinals in Week 12​

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GLENDALE, ARIZONA - NOVEMBER 26: Steve Avila #73 of the Los Angeles Rams looks to block while Kyren Williams #23 of the Los Angeles Rams runs the ball during the second quarter against the Arizona Cardinals at State Farm Stadium on November 26, 2023 in Glendale, Arizona. (Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images)
Cameron DaSilva

November 27, 2023 10:56 am PT

The Los Angeles Rams put together their most complete game on Sunday in their 37-14 victory over the Arizona Cardinals. The offense was perfectly balanced with 33 runs for 228 yards and 33 passes for 229 yards, while the defense allowed just six points after the Cardinals’ opening touchdown drive.
Pro Football Focus had some high marks for a number of Rams players, led by Kevin Dotson, Kyren Williams, Jordan Fuller and Ahkello Witherspoon. Others, unfortunately, received lower grades for performing below expectations.
Here are the Rams’ five highest- and lowest-graded players on offense and defense in their Week 12 win over Arizona (min. 10 snaps).

Top 5 offense​


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GLENDALE, ARIZONA – NOVEMBER 26: Kyren Williams #23 of the Los Angeles Rams celebrates after scoring a receiving touchdown during the second quarter against the Arizona Cardinals at State Farm Stadium on November 26, 2023 in Glendale, Arizona. (Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images)
  • RG Kevin Dotson: 92.2
  • RB Kyren Williams: 84.3
  • WR Tutu Atwell: 84.2
  • RT Rob Havenstein: 79.4
  • LT Alaric Jackson: 78.0
Three of the Rams’ five highest-graded players on offense were linemen. That gives you an idea of just how well the big men up front played. Dotson didn’t allow a single pressure and had a 90.5 grade in the running game.
Havenstein allowed two pressures and one hit, but his run-blocking grade of 84.9 was excellent and the third-best on the team.
Jackson’s 86.1 run-blocking grade was second-best on the team, though he did allow three pressures in pass protection.
Williams obviously had a huge game with 204 total yards, including three missed tackles forced.
Atwell caught three passes for a team-high 76 yards, including a 42-yarder on the opening possession.

Top 5 defense​


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GLENDALE, ARIZONA – NOVEMBER 26: Jordan Fuller #4 of the Los Angeles Rams attempts to intercept a pass over Marquise Brown #2 of the Arizona Cardinals during the third quarter at State Farm Stadium on November 26, 2023 in Glendale, Arizona. (Photo by Norm Hall/Getty Images)
  • S Jordan Fuller: 90.5
  • CB Ahkello Witherspoon: 88.4
  • CB Derion Kendrick: 82.6
  • S John Johnson: 82.1
  • LB Jake Hummel: 77.6
This was one of the best games of Fuller’s career, as he recorded three tackles and four pass breakups — including a near-interception on a deep shot, as seen in the photo above.
Witherspoon also had an excellent performance with three pass breakups and only two receptions allowed on seven targets. He led the team with a 91.1 coverage grade.
Kendrick excelled for the second week in a row, earning a grade of 85.2 in coverage with only two receptions allowed for a total of 9 yards.
Johnson continues to get better as the Rams increase his playing time, allowing just one catch for 14 yards in coverage.
Hummel played just 13 snaps but he made three tackles, in part because he allowed three receptions.

Bottom 5 offense​


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GLENDALE, ARIZONA – NOVEMBER 26: Jalen Thompson #34 of the Arizona Cardinals tackles Cooper Kupp #10 of the Los Angeles Rams during the third quarter at State Farm Stadium on November 26, 2023 in Glendale, Arizona. (Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images)
  • WR Puka Nacua: 62.9
  • WR Ben Skowronek: 61.8
  • WR Demarcus Robinson: 61.0
  • TE Hunter Long: 49.8
  • WR Cooper Kupp: 48.2
Four wideouts made up the Rams’ five lowest-graded offensive players, which is telling. Nacua only caught four passes for 27 yards, Kupp had three catches for 18 yards, Skowronek’s lone reception went for a 1-yard loss on third down and Robinson had two receptions for 13 yards. Only Kupp was pinned with a drop.
Of Long’s 15 snaps played, 10 of them were as a run blocker and three were in pass protection, so he only ran two routes and didn’t have a reception.

Bottom 5 defense​


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GLENDALE, ARIZONA – NOVEMBER 26: Marquise Brown #2 of the Arizona Cardinals catches a pass over Tre Tomlinson #6 of the Los Angeles Rams during the fourth quarter at State Farm Stadium on November 26, 2023 in Glendale, Arizona. (Photo by Norm Hall/Getty Images) ORG XMIT: 775992422 ORIG FILE ID: 1815478463
  • OLB Ochaun Mathis: 49.9
  • DE Jonah Williams: 48.8
  • CB Tre Tomlinson: 48.6
  • S Jason Taylor II: 43.4
  • LB Ernest Jones: 43.3
Mathis only had one pressure in 20 pass-rush snaps, so his grade was understandably low.
Williams did have one tackle but he played 27 snaps and didn’t have much of an impact as a pass rusher.
Tomlinson came in late and allowed four catches for 59 yards on five targets, including a touchdown. He was also called for illegal contact, which nullified his own interception.
Taylor gave up a 26-yard reception late in the game and had three tackles, but he also missed one tackle.
Jones was surprisingly the lowest-graded defender, making only one solo tackle and finishing with a tackling grade of 41.8 (he missed one tackle)

Other notables​


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GLENDALE, ARIZONA – NOVEMBER 26: Kobie Turner #91 of the Los Angeles Rams celebrates a sack during the fourth quarter against the Arizona Cardinals at State Farm Stadium on November 26, 2023 in Glendale, Arizona. (Photo by Christian Petersen/Getty Images)
  • DT Kobie Turner: 75.0
  • LG Steve Avila: 72.0
  • DT Aaron Donald: 70.0
  • QB Matthew Stafford: 68.2
Turner was second on the team with five pressures and he had two sacks to go along with a team-high four stops. He did miss one tackle and was called for a penalty on an extra-point attempt.
Avila had the best pass-blocking grade on the team (83.1) and didn’t allow a single pressure in 34 pass-blocking snaps.
Donald led the team with seven pressures despite not finishing with a sack.
Stafford only made one big-time throw and even though he did throw an interception, PFF didn’t qualify that as a turnover-worthy play, likely characterizing it as a miscommunication with Nacua.

Week 12 Snap Counts


Rams Week 12 snap counts: John Johnson leads safeties, Tutu Atwell's role shrinks​


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The Los Angeles Rams coasted to a second straight victory on Sunday as they blew out the Arizona Cardinals for the second time this season, a 37-14 win on the road. Because of the lopsided score, the Rams were able to get some of their backups playing time, which allowed the starters to take some snaps off down the stretch.

Even Carson Wentz got into the game, though he didn’t attempt a pass.

Even when the game was close, there were some changes on both offense and defense when it comes to the snap counts. Tutu Atwell played his fewest snaps of the season, while John Johnson led all safeties with 87% of the snaps played. Derion Kendrick remained a starter, as well, after being demoted in Week 9.

Offense​

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Alaric Jackson and Steve Avila were the only offensive players to play every snap. Rob Havenstein, Kevin Dotson, Coleman Shelton and Matthew Stafford were all pulled from the game for the final three snaps.

Cooper Kupp appeared to come up limping in the first quarter and was checked by the training staff, but he still played the most snaps of any wideout on Sunday. He played 59 snaps, with Puka Nacua playing 54. Shockingly, it was Demarcus Robinson who operated as the No. 3 receiver, overtaking Tutu Atwell by playing 16 more snaps. Ben Skowronek played 14 snaps and Austin Trammell played just three in garbage time.

Kyren Williams touched the ball 22 times in his 41 snaps played. He led the backfield, of course, but Royce Freeman played 23 snaps himself; Freeman had 13 carries for 77 yards and a touchdown in the win. Zach Evans played three snaps in the fourth quarter.

Tyler Higbee continues to lead the tight end group with a 75% snap share, but it was Hunter Long and Davis Allen backing him up. Brycen Hopkins was a healthy scratch, indicating the Rams like Long and Allen better right now.

Defense​

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Derion Kendrick was demoted before the Rams’ bye week, but in the last two weeks, he’s bounced back in a big way. He was the only defender to play every snap on Sunday, and he turned in another solid performance after shining against the Seahawks a week ago. Ahkello Witherspoon played just 66% of the snaps, mostly because he was pulled in garbage time, while Cobie Durant played 45% as the nickel defender with Quentin Lake out. Tre Tomlinson got his longest look of the season by playing 34% of the snaps.

At safety, Johnson led the group with 62 snaps played. That’s partly because of the lopsided score, which allowed the Rams to give Jordan Fuller some snaps off. Still, it’s clear Johnson remains ahead of Russ Yeast after overtaking him last week. Jason Taylor II got his first snaps of the season and played 35% of the plays.
Ernest Jones had his workload lightened thanks to the Rams’ big lead, playing 63% of the snaps. Christian Rozeboom remained the No. 2 linebacker with 49% of the snaps played ,and Troy Reeder was once again the third option (32%).

At edge rusher, there were no real changes. Byron Young was once again the top outside linebacker alongside Michael Hoecht. Ochaun Mathis was third with a 34% snap share, followed by Keir Thomas (21%).

Along the defensive line, Aaron Donald had a lighter workload (59%), but it was still the most snaps played by a Rams defensive lineman. Kobie Turner played 44%, with Jonah Williams playing 38%. Bobby Brown’s role shrunk compared to last week, but that could be because of the Cardinals’ pass-heavy attack. Even Desjuan Johnson played more snaps (22) than Brown (19).

Weekly Playoff Chase Update (Game 12)

As we head into the home stretch, and for as long as we are in the hunt, I'm going to do a weekly update of the standings and schedule of the Wild Card contenders, and provide my weekly predictions and projection.

Right now, there are six teams with 5 or 6 wins through 11 games who are battling for the NFC South title and 2 Wild Card spots (including the Vikings, who play tonight and then have their bye next week).
Here’s how the Game 12 schedule looks for these teams:

Chicago @ Minnesota (6-5) (11/27)
Seattle (6-5) @ Dallas (11/30)
Atlanta (5-6)* @ NY Jets (12/3)
Kansas City @ Green Bay (5-6) (12/3)
Cleveland @ L.A. Rams (5-6) (12/3)
Detroit @ New Orleans (5-6) (12/3)
*Currently leads NFC South.

I don’t have much faith in Chicago, so I’m going to go with the Vikings to jump to 7-5. Seattle will get crushed by Dallas. The Sunday schedule looks good for us, and I’m going out on a limb and predicting we’ll be the only victor among the four contenders playing next weekend.

If I’m right, the playoff race will look like this through 12 games:
Atlanta will hold on to the NFC South lead with a 5-7 record (this will be true even if Tampa gets to 5-7 by beating Carolina, as Atlanta holds the head-to-head).

For the two wild cards, it will be:

Minnesota 7-5 (WC/6th seed)
L.A. Rams 6-6 (WC/7th seed)
Seattle 6-6
Green Bay 5-7
New Orleans 5-7
Tampa Bay 5-7 (jumps into contention by beating Panthers).

Could be a good week!

A few ‘morning after’ thoughts…

I haven’t re-watched the game yet so these are just some streaming consciousness memories.

McVay has been criticized a great deal here for some of his decisions, especially play calling, including from yours truly. But he did a great job yesterday and the results speak for themselves. I can only hope he keeps the running game prominently in his future game plans, including the TE usage.

Stafford clearly is still having trouble with that thumb, but he managed a good game vs Cards anyway. He is a genuine throwback QB warrior. I still believe that it’s time to bring in his future replacement unless Wentz proves that he’s worthy. Better one year too early then one year too late.

Speaking of which, it would have been nice if McVay had brought Wentz in early enough in that fourth quarter to throw a few passes. But that is going to have to wait for another time, I guess.

OK, KW is legit, isn’t he? What a performance! More please.

I spent a great deal of time, watching that Ram offensive line, paying most attention to Jackson, Avila, and Dotson. Obviously, they all played very well. Then again, we must remember it was the Cardinals. Extend Dotson ASAP.

It was good to see the younger TE’s brought in, and also great to see Higbee finally have what I would describe as a very good game. I do wish that Allen and Long could have made a splash play or two, however. Tight end is still a draft need, don’t you think?

Kupp is clearly still hurting. Probably best to sit him for another game or two, in my opinion. Some combination of Trammell and Robinson will have to do until Kupp is once again hundred percent. I did notice Kupp blocking his tail off yesterday, however.

That Ram front seven is coming along, despite needing a competent outside linebacker, isn’t it? Both Young and Turner have been outright draft steals. Kudos to Sneed and his scouting department.

Cornerback is still a work in progress for the Rams but I have got to say that Morris managed to cover their various deficiencies rather well yesterday. Interestingly, both Kendrick and Tomlinson seem to be play maker and ballhawk types, yet both have a tendency to make killer penalties that keep opposing teams drives alive.

Another thing, is it me or did Morris make adjustments to take away the easy short, passing game from Murray? I seem to recall that Murray was denied those easy stick moving completions yesterday, and he is no savant at the long ball. If I’m right, kudos to Morris. Although I do have to wonder what took him so long?

Even the safety position seems to be coming along, not that Sneed will not probably draft one in this next draft.

On special teams, Evans had a light day with only one punt, although he couldn’t keep it out of the end zone. I like Trammell as returner. But our place kicker leaves all of us with a lot of questions.

Good news, bad news. The bad news is that Rams seem to be getting further and further away from being able to draft an elite top six player. The good news is that Rams are inching closer to gaining a playoff position. And it sure is fun to watch this team play well, and just simply win. I’ll take it!

Only six more games to go, guys. Will be interesting to see what the Rams trend line is gonna be during that stretch. Fingers crossed.

20 Random Taking it Easy Thoughts

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1. Looks like the Rams have turned a corner in Glendale, Arizona... such a fine sight to see!

2. For the first time in 14 months, the Rams have won back-to-back games!

3. The offensive MVP is obvious. Kyren Williams... WELCOME BACK with a HUGE game! 204 scrimmage yards (143 rushing, 61 receiving) and two TDs! He'll be in the running for NFL Offensive Player of the Week. He is truly a difference maker.

4. In Williams and Royce Freeman (13 carries, 77 yards, TD), the Rams have found a great 1-2 punch in the backfield.

5. Lots of honorable mentions on offense. Matthew Stafford was very solid, contributing 4 TD passes. Tyler Higbee had his best game of the year (5 receptions, 29 yards, 2 TDs).

6. You also have to give the OL some appreciation, with 228 yards rushing (6.9 ypc) and no sacks allowed. I'd give particularly high grades to the right side of the line, as Kevin Dotson and Rob Havenstein seemed to have the Cardinals defense pushed back 3-4 yards on several running plays.

7. Tutu Atwell had a nice first half (3 receptions, 76 yards), but I didn't see him on the field in the second half. Was he injured?

8. Puka Nacua and Cooper Kupp combined for 56 yards, and the Rams scored 37 points. Go figure.

9. Defensive MVP for this week is Jordan Fuller. 3 tackles, and 4 big pass breakups. Team had a total of 10 passes defended, which is impressive.

10. Strong honorable mention to Kobie Turner (4 tackles, 2 sacks).

11. The Rams now have 10 sacks from the rookie class: Byron Young 5, Turner 4, Desjuan Johnson 1.

12. The bad? Kicking game still a problem. No impact on outcome, of course, but concerning.

13. This is the only way I want to see Carson Wentz on the field!

14. At 5-6, we are in the thick of the playoff hunt. You can pretty much pencil in the Eagles, Cowboys, Lions, and the NFC South winner. That leaves two spots for the Seahawks (6-5), Vikings (6-5), Packers (5-6), Saints (5-6) and Rams (5-6) to fight over. A lot can happen in 6 weeks!

15. The Rams get a Browns team with an offense decimated by injuries next week. Nick Chubb is, of course, out, and they lost Dorian Thompson-Robinson (concussion) and Amari Cooper (ribs) today.

16. Rams 4-1 vs. NFC West, 1-5 against rest of the league. Discuss.

17. Some rare rookie sightings. Davis Allen with a nice shoestring 3rd down catch on first half TD drive. Zach Evans in some mop-up duty. Tre Tomlinson still a flag magnet. Desjuan Johnson with a garbage time sack.

18. After seeing over 200 yards in penalties last week, it was nice to see the quiet day from the refs.

19. I think today's game, with the re-emergence of Williams, the solidification of Freeman's role, and the inclusion of Higbee and Atwell in the gameplan, the Rams' offense has become much more difficult to scout, gameplan and defend.

20. Keep it going!

GAME DAY Rams at Cardinals - Game Day Thread

Sunday November 26, 2023

Los Angeles Rams at Arizona Cardinals, 4:05 p.m. (FOX)​


Game Day Thread

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While we all get fired up watching the game, please remember our core principles;we always show respect for our team and each other.

Despite the emotional highs and lows watching a game, we will moderate this thread with that in mind, however please refrain from name calling. This applies to players, the Rams organization, and others.

This is the core rule of the GDT. Moderators are tasked to issue thread bans, at a minimum, to maintain this standard.

This is our team. Win or lose. Good days and bad. We are here for FUN, not to be dragged down.

A more loosely moderated atmosphere can be found in the chat room.

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GAME DAY The Late Games - Week 12

NFL Week 12 - Sunday, November 26, 2023

THE LATE GAMES
Los Angeles Rams at Arizona Cardinals, 4:05 p.m. (FOX)
Cleveland Browns at Denver Broncos, 4:05 p.m. (FOX)
Kansas City Chiefs at Las Vegas Raiders, 4:25 p.m. (CBS)
Buffalo Bills at Philadelphia Eagles, 4:25 p.m. (CBS)

THE EARLY GAMES
New Orleans Saints at Atlanta Falcons, 1 p.m. (FOX)
Pittsburgh Steelers at Cincinnati Bengals, 1 p.m. (CBS)
Jacksonville Jaguars at Houston Texans, 1 p.m. (CBS)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Indianapolis Colts, 1 p.m. (CBS)
New England Patriots at New York Giants, 1 p.m. (FOX)
Carolina Panthers at Tennessee Titans, 1 p.m. (FOX)

SNF
Baltimore Ravens at Los Angeles Chargers, 8:20 p.m. (NBC and Peacock)


Monday, November 27, 2023

Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings, 8:15 p.m. (ESPN)

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