The Rams have to be happy about their opposition's QB situation. With Ryan Fitzpatrick hobbled by an MCL sprain and leading the league in interceptions, Coach Todd Bowles may make the decision to start Bryce Petty. Petty is a rookie who first saw the field in the second half last week and would, no doubt, struggle against the Rams unrelenting pass rush. Geno Smith is not an option, having torn his ACL earlier this year.

In either case, the Rams are poised to capitalize on mistakes which bodes well for the turnover battle that has basically decided every contest this season. The Rams are away but I would even consider them to be favorites against a one-legged interception machine or a rookie fresh into the NY spotlight against our defensive front that rattled Newton last week.

Practice Report 11/9: Working to Increase the Points

Myles Simmons

It’s no secret — the Rams have struggled offensively this season, particularly over the last two games. And so while it’s a team game and Los Angeles is looking for more takeaways from its defense, and perhaps a significant special teams play, the club needs its offense to score more points.

“It’s our job to score points, and it’s frustrating for all of us,” offensive coordinator Rob Boras said. “We believe in what we’re doing. We believe in one another. I’ve said before, what this team has gone through since leaving St. Louis and as much time as we’ve spent together — these guys genuinely like, and I’d use the word love, each other. And I know as men, that’s not a word used very often.

“So they’ve got to look each other in the eye, and we’re all frustrated, but they understand that the guys in the room can get it done,” Boras added. “And that’s the challenge that we have, and these guys are willing to accept that challenge.”

Los Angeles is currently No. 32, scoring just 16.3 points per game. Boras said one of the keys to the club’s improvement will be to resist the urge to press and keep focusing what should bring the team success.

“What we always talk about is that you have one play to play,” Boras said. “If something good or bad happened on the previous play, you get about 12 to 13 seconds between the end of the play and the huddle to let it go and move on to the next play. And that’s part of the mental toughness we’re always challenging the guys to play with.”

“You just can’t press and panic — just play,” head coach Jeff Fisher said. “We’re making the plays on the practice field. Granted, it’s different than on Sundays. But just go out and just play. Relax and play. But don’t hurt ourselves.”

Boras also said the club has been trying to be as creative as possible in order to try to get explosive plays — the kinds of plays that usually lead to points.

“We’ve lined up with Todd [Gurley] in the backfield last week a couple times, just trying to do some things that way to take advantage of our talent, to maybe give the defense some un-scouted looks, and try to put our guys in the best position as possible,” Boras said.

It’s clear from the team’s attitude in and around practice the despite the recent results, players are in good spirits and believe a turnaround is imminent.

“It’s the guys I come to work with each and every day that makes me feel this way because these guys know that we can go out there and win every week,” wide receiver Kenny Britt said. “That’s a confidence builder in each other. And you don’t see anybody moping around because we know we’re always an inch away from taking a W home. And it’s always us. So we realize it’s us — and that’s the only thing we ned to change, is how we execute.”

If the Rams’ offense is to get going this week, quarterback Case Keenum will more likely than not be a significant part of the reason why. In Los Angeles’ four-game skid, the signal-caller has completed 66 percent of his passes for 1,179 yards with five touchdowns and eight interceptions.

But that doesn’t mean Fisher has lost faith in his starting quarterback. Indeed, he’s been making sure Keenum is in a good place mentally throughout the week.

“He’s fine. We’ve had several conversations this week about it, and he’s fine,” Fisher said. “That defense, Carolina’s defense, is a good defense. And we made some plays, we just didn’t finish them. Case is fine mentally.”

“We don’t have to be anything other than who we are,” Keenum said of his talks with Fisher. “We all have got enough talent, we all have got enough drive, enough will, enough intelligence to get the job done. It’s just a matter of executing and getting it done. We’ve got to flip the switch, and execute, and move the ball.”

One element of his game Keenum said he’s been working on is his pocket presence. The quarterback said there were a few moments he might have been able to avoid a few hits had it been better in last Sunday’s game against the Panthers.

“I think my pocket presence was where it needed to be. I think I could’ve prevented a few sacks, a few batted balls just trusting my protections. Stepping up when I need to,” Keenum said. “Sometimes, I make it tough on my tackles. So, definitely worked on that this week.”

This Sunday will bring another significant challenge in the Jets, who boast a solid defense that uses multiple fronts. Their top defensive linemen — Sheldon Richardson, Muhammad Wilkerson, and USC product Leonard Williams — are tough matchups from both a run and pass standpoint. And then New York has cornerback Darrelle Revis with his 28 career interceptions on the outside.

“They’ve got a great front,” Keenum said. “Their D-line — again — is one of the best in the league. So we’ve got our work cut out for us up front. Revis has been doing this a long time. He sees a lot of stuff, so [have to] know where he’s at. And their defense is good. They disguise pressures they do well.”

INJURY REPORT

The Rams have five players listed on their first injury report of the week.

Running back Todd Gurley (thigh), defensive tackle Michael Brockers (groin), cornerbackTrumaine Johnson (ankle), defensive back Lamarcus Joyner (back), and wide receiverNelson Spruce (calf) did not participate in today’s session.

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Is the decision by Rams coach Jeff Fisher, left, to stick with Case Keenum at quarterback a sign that he'll be back as coach in 2017? (AP Photo/Paul Sancya)


Fisher sticking with Case Keenum – and Rams appear to be sticking with Fisher

By VINCENT BONSIGNORE / STAFF COLUMNIST

Give Jeff Fisher this much at least.

When he sticks to his guns, he really sticks to his guns.

The Rams coach firmly believes in the plan he has in place for rookie quarterback Jared Goff. It’s built on a foundation of patience and prudence and follows a blueprint he drew up 21 years ago as the head coach of the Houston Oilers to bring along then-rookie quarterback Steve McNair.

The gist being: Goff – like McNair – will not see the field until Fisher thinks he’s ready to handle the job.

That’s why Fisher is sticking for now with Case Keenum, who hasn’t exactly distinguished himself while guiding the Rams to a 3-5 record and four straight losses.

Despite the losing streak and fringe spot in the division and playoff race, Fisher not only believes the Rams can still turn things around, he’s convinced Keenum – not Goff – gives the Rams the best chance to win each week.

It’s a simple formula Fisher makes no bones about adhering to.

And it provides a legitimate glimpse into just how comfortable he is about his future as the head coach of the Rams.

Which is to say, pretty damned comfortable despite being in the final year of his contract and no official word yet on a new deal

“I’m not uncomfortable at all,” he said. “I’m uncomfortable because I didn’t expect to be three-and-whatever we are, OK, but I’m not uncomfortable at all. I never look over my shoulder, we’re moving on. (Rams owner) Stan (Kroenke) and I are on the same page, he understands what we’ve been through, he’s as disappointed as I am at the losses – two three-points and a seven-point in the last three games. He understands that we’re competitive and we’re doing everything we possibly can to get this turned around.”

My thoughts?

Fisher and the Rams have an agreement on the parameters of a two- or three-year deal. While the 30-40-1 overall record over the past four-plus years might not be worthy of it, the Rams appreciate what Fisher has done in rebuilding a morbid roster and navigating the Rams across their 1,600-mile relocation from St. Louis to Los Angeles in as seamless a fashion as possible.

And barring a complete face plant over the past eight games, the Rams will renew their vows with Fisher at the end of the season. Whether he sticks around through the length of the deal will largely depend on what happens in 2017, with the Rams more than a year removed from relocation madness.

Point being, he’ll be on as short a leash as possible.

If that doesn’t sit well with fans, consider this: Upon canvassing some NFL people, the consensus seems to be short of complete disaster the rest of 2016, it would be unfair to let Fisher go after everything the Rams put him through during their quest to get back to L.A.

That said, if he doesn’t pull them out of mediocrity in 2017, the plug would have to be pulled with Kroenke simply swallowing whatever remaining money is owed Fisher.

All of which makes sense based on the decisions being made.

If Fisher truly thought his contract could expire at the end of the season without hope of a new deal, he could have easily bought himself some time by rolling with Goff, and the inevitable ups and downs that come with it, and played the rookie quarterback card with his bosses to convince them he deserves more time.

That he hasn’t is probably a good indication Fisher knows he’ll be back in 2017.

From that confidence, Fisher can make the calls he feels are best for the team short- and long-term, without concern to how it might play on his job status.

That includes Goff, who Fisher is obviously looking out for by not playing him until he thinks he’s ready.

You can debate for days the merit of development through actual playing time – and how it might expedite Goff’s growth process by getting him on the field sooner rather than later. For every David Carr, who was destroyed by getting rushed onto the field by the Houston Texans before he or the Texans were ready, there is a Troy Aikman, who took a beating as a rookie on a really bad Dallas Cowboys team but not only lived to tell about it, was probably better off for the experience.

Fisher believes in a different tact. It’s called the long play. And he believes Goff and the Rams will be stronger because of it.

“We’re taking our time, we’re being patient,” Fisher said. “And when we feel it’s the right time, he’ll be under center.”

It’s important to understand Fisher doesn’t appear to be a lone wolf in making the call. While the Rams believe the head coach – whoever he is – has the right to make decisions he feels are best for the club, there also is support in the building for how Fisher is handling things.

There is confidence Fisher and General Manager Les Snead made the right call in selecting Goff over North Dakota State’s Carson Wentz, who started from Day One with the Eagles. And there is agreement in the way Fisher is preceding and Goff’s long-range future as an NFL star.

No matter how it might look from the outside, the Rams appear unified inside the building.

It’s further proof parameters of a contract extension are likely in place.

As for Keenum, as long as Fisher believes he gives the Rams the best chance to win, the job is his. It will be Keenum lining up behind center against the New York Jets on Sunday, and until further notice.

“Case is starting,” Fisher said.

But he also left a huge door wide open for Goff to take the job at any moment.

“He’s going to play,” Fisher said of Goff. “Whether it’s the following week, or the following week, or what have you, it’s eventually going to happen.”

If that doesn’t sound imminent, not sure what does.

And while everyone else pines for the Rams to pull the plug on Keenum and hand the keys to Goff, Fisher is sticking to his guns.

Sure sounds like someone confident he’ll be around for awhile.

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Notice his blinking? Like a twitch. . . I wonder if that has any play with defenses knowing where to attack the Oline.

It looks like a small form of terretts or something.

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For a while it has been highly debated about the QB situation. Who should be starting?

Almost every post and thread is focused on why Fish is wrong and why Goff should be starting.

To be clear I am on the start Goff bandwagon and even told my wife to plan a movie date during the game this week. I will be hoping for the Rams to win but I just am not going to invest the time and energy into watching the game until I can watch Goff.

This is because I know Goff is the future, whether he struggles or not, he is the future. I also really liked what I saw from him as a prospect.

The reasons I think Fish may be right:

1. Having time to take in the NFL game and all the nuances - all the while being on a very young team.
2. Keenum, although limited physically, has tremendous leadership qualities. For a young guy like Goff to be apart of that process with Keenum will be great for his future.
3. While Goff took a beating in college. He is now up against even bigger guys and that beating could take a real toll.
4. The run game is just not working. I know teams are daring Keenum (which has a lot to do with his height), but there are other problems that go with the run game. Sticking a rookie QB in a place where the Oline cannot create holes could just be disastrous.


I don't want this thread to be a whole debate about why we should be starting Goff. I want to hear some of the great reasons that Fish is right. I remember very clearly when GB cut Favre in favor of Rodgers. There were so many Packers fans enraged, yet so many happy.

Got a message on my phone saying Gurley listed as questionable sunday. He sustain an injury in practice today? didn't give details.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...tadium-vote-fails-opens-door-move-los-angeles

Chargers stadium vote fails, opens door for move to Los Angeles
Eric D. Williams/ESPN Staff Writer

SAN DIEGO -- After 15 years of working to get a stadium built here, the Chargers finally found out from San Diego city voters whether they want to build a new stadium that keeps the team in town.

The answer, at least for the project as it currently stands, was a resounding no.

With 100 percent of precincts reporting, the Chargers received only 43 percent approval on Measure C, the team's $1.8 billion downtown stadium and convention center annex that proposed raising hotel taxes from 12.5 percent to 16.5 percent to secure $1.15 billion in bonds to help pay for the project.

The citizens' ballot initiative required two-thirds of the voting public within city limits to approve the project, a high bar for the team to reach.

In a letter sent late Tuesday night, Chargers chairman Dean Spanos thanked season-ticket holders and fans for their support but offered no insight into his intentions moving forward.

"In terms of what comes next for the Chargers, it's just too early to give you an answer," Spanos wrote. "We are going to diligently explore and weigh our options, and do what is needed to maintain our options, but no decision will be announced until after the football season concludes and no decision will be made in haste."


The San Diego Chargers have until Jan. 15 to exercise an option to join the Los Angeles Rams in a stadium being constructed in Inglewood, California. Todd Warshaw/Getty Images

As part of the Rams' relocation agreement approved earlier this year by NFL owners, the Chargers have until Jan. 15 to decide whether they want to join the Rams in Los Angeles. The two sides agreed to terms on a deal that would bring the Chargers to Los Angeles as the second NFL team earlier this year.

If the Chargers decide to stay in San Diego, the Raiders will have the opportunity to move south and join the Rams.

However, with the Raiders focused on potentially relocating to Las Vegas, it could buy some time for the Chargers to continue to work on getting something done in San Diego.

Spanos said last week that he has no meeting scheduled with Kroenke and that the NFL is supportive of whatever direction the Chargers would like to go.

"They've been great," Spanos said about the league.

Last year, as the team partnered with the Raiders in an attempt to develop and fund a new stadium in Carson, California, the Chargers conducted what many in the city view as a scorched-earth policy that put them at odds with San Diego Mayor Kevin Faulconer over the location and financing of a new facility.

However, this year, the Chargers committed to getting something done in San Diego after losing the race to Los Angeles to the Rams, which included Spanos working to create a better relationship with Faulconer.

Spanos also changed his approach locally, getting out front more and interacting with fans and city leaders.

After months of negotiations with the team, Faulconer announced three weeks ago his endorsement of the team's stadium proposal. Faulconer and the Chargers agreed to eight concessions to protect the city's financial interests and strengthen the team's ballot initiative.

"It's very important to work together, that's how you achieve success," Faulconer said. "And as I've said on numerous occasions, keeping the team here is in the best interest of the city.

"The Chargers have been here for 50 years. Part of a great American city is professional sports, just like are arts, culture and some of the other things that make us who we are. And so it's worth doing, and it's worth keeping focus to achieve success."

Now that Faulconer and Spanos are on the same page, even with a loss at the polls, the Chargers could continue to work on improving the stadium plan, now that there appears to be some momentum toward building a new facility.

"It was never bad to begin with," Spanos said about his relationship with Faulconer. "We had opposing views last year. That's just part of doing business. He's been great. He's been supportive, and he's a very decent individual to deal with."

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

http://www.espn.com/blog/washington...usins-future-remains-cloudy-after-eight-games

ASHBURN, Va. -- His season started slow, with two tough outings that did little to prove he deserved a huge contract. Washington Redskins quarterback Kirk Cousins' last few games before the bye helped make the decision a lot tougher.

The Redskins wanted to see consistency from Cousins if they were going to pay him $20 million-plus per season on a long-term deal. He hasn’t been consistent, but he has improved. That just means the final eight games not only will decide the Redskins’ playoff fate but likely his future in Washington. To earn that big deal, Cousins still needs to show he can play at a consistently high level.

Here’s a game-by-game look at how Cousins did in the first half, rated by dollar signs (one through four) that signify how much each performance might earn him. Obviously, the more dollar signs the better. And, as you can see by the ratings, the consistency still remains to be seen. That's why the second half is crucial.

Pittsburgh: Cousins started off poorly and showed how meaningless total yards can be. He threw for 329 yards, but no touchdowns and two interceptions in a 38-16 loss. Cousins was indecisive and missed some excellent opportunities for points. He struggled in the red zone, throwing a pick there late after not throwing any red zone interceptions in 17 games last season. Not what he or the Redskins needed.

Verdict: $

Dallas: The Redskins moved the ball all day against the Cowboys’ defense and were in position to score 35-40 points. Cousins threw for 364 yards; they weren’t hollow, either. But Cousins missed more golden chances -- a deep crosser to a wide-open Jamison Crowder among them. Cousins also threw a late interception in the end zone, the result of poor mechanics and vision.

Verdict: $

New York Giants: Cousins helped the Redskins win on the road, so that was good. He did make some big-time throws -- a 44-yard pass to receiver DeSean Jackson in which he baited the safety with a shoulder pump to the other side. Cousins made solid throws under duress and was more decisive than in the first two games. But he still didn’t have the look of a $20 million quarterback. The numbers were good: He completed 21 of 35 passes for 296 yards and two touchdowns; there were some missed opportunities and another botched sequence before halftime. But it was a game on which he could build.

Verdict: $$$

Cleveland: More good and bad. Again. Cousins threw an interception because he stared down a receiver, but he also maneuvered the safety a couple of times with his eyes for big completions. And he extended a play in the red zone, leading to a touchdown pass to Jordan Reed. Cousins' numbers were solid -- 21-of-27 for 183 yards, three touchdowns and an interception. He was better in the red zone, throwing touchdowns on three of five opportunities. Not a cha-ching sort of day, but the red zone improvement helped.

Verdict: $$

Baltimore: The Ravens were intent on forcing underneath throws and that’s what Cousins kept taking. However, the offense did have chances for multiple deep shots and failed. Swirling winds didn’t help, but that certainly doesn’t excuse it all. Plus, Cousins was intercepted deep in his own territory and only a fortunate fumble out of the end zone on the return bailed him out. He completed 29 of 41 passes for 260 yards, one touchdown and an interception. His passer rating (85.4) and QBR (46.4) reflect the mediocre outing.

Verdict: $$

Philadelphia: Cousins’ stats suggest he struggled, but this actually was his best game of the season. He completed 18 of 34 throws for 263 yards, two touchdowns and an interception. But Cousins finally made a series of off-schedule plays, something the coaches had wanted to see him do. Those plays extended drives and led to points and a victory.

Verdict: $$$

Detroit: He continued his steady improvement and played well in his home state. Cousins threw for 301 yards and a touchdown and led two fourth-quarter scoring drives that put Washington ahead with just over a minute remaining before the defense gave up a touchdown to lose. Cousins connected on some medium-range throws, but more impressively handled a lot of pressure in the pocket. He avoided some sacks with good recognition and throwing the ball away. Other times he was able to connect under duress. More games like this would help. He had them in position to score 27 points, but a missed field goal and fumble at the 2-yard line hurt.

Verdict: $$$

Cincinnati: A strong outing preceded another. Cousins completed 38 of 56 passes for 458 yards, two touchdowns and an interception. He averaged 8.18 yards per pass attempt, his second highest total of the season. The 38 completions set a franchise record; the yardage total was the second-highest. Cousins delivered some big-time throws, too, like the third-and-13 to Crowder with one minute, 58 seconds remaining while facing a heavy rush. The Redskins again blew chances in the red zone, but Cousins did lead a second-half rally from 10 points down to force overtime where a missed 34-yard field goal cost them a win. He needs more games like the last two to build a case for huge money.

Verdict: $$$$

http://www.footballzebras.com/2016/11/08/week-10-referee-assignments-2016/

Sunday, Nov. 13

Rams at Jets — Ed Hochuli

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Is Kroenke even more devious than we thought?

He keeps Fisher around for one year to take the heat in Los Angeles and then brings
out the new coach and quarterback to provide hope and salvation to the fans of Los
Angeles and buy him time until he can open his new palace.

I think it probably has more to do with the fact that 1.) Kroenke wanted Fisher to guide the Rams through the transition to LA because of his past experience moving the Houston Oilers to Tennessee, and 2.) He didn't want to pay Fisher's $7 million salary if he fired him this year while also having to pay for a new head coach at the same time.
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Memo to LA: Your football team has moved 4 times - STL has never had a franchise that originated here move. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.



They are in fact the Cleveland/Los Angeles/Anaheim/St. Louis/Los Angeles Rams. Which is why this whole "welcome home" stuff is such a crock. Which home?
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It just seems that the Rams can't evaluate offensive players. The OL is rated very low, there is no #1 WR, and for years QB play has been mediocre to terrible. Fisher has whiffed on more OL, RB;s, WR,s than I can count. How can this be solved other than firing Fisher?

They certainly have had a tough time doing so under Fisher-Snead. There's no doubt about that. And don't let the GM off the hook.
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What's your opinion on the Oakland move to Las Vegas? If Jerry Jones and Kraft are behind it, what's going to stop it?

I don't think anything will stop it unless somehow the financing plan falls through in Vegas. The league attitude towards gambling/Vegas has changed dramatically in the past decade.
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I don't care that we finished 3rd in ratings behind the Steelers/Ravens and Raiders/Broncos game. Rams are home and flyover country can just move on.

And I don't care how many times you say it, LA is not the "home" of the Rams.


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50 years in LA says its home. Move on Jimmy.



Apparently, you flunked both geography and math in school. Ten years in Cleveland, 33 years in LA, 16 years in Anaheim, 21 years in St. Louis. Please move on, you are done here.

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The decline in Gurley's performance is stunning. The O line is about the same as last year. Carries are down but is that the problem or is it the offensive play-calling?



Rams Rewind: Once again, team shows little interest in running Gurley
stltoday.com/Gurley had only 2 carries in second half of tight game against Carolina.

The Rams have gotten totally out of whack in terms of pass-run ratio these past two games. Gurley has had only 27 carries total and had only two carries in the second half Sunday vs. Carolina. He's clearly the team's best offensive player. Just because he's struggling, it doesn't mean you quit using him. You keep working on the problem until it's solved.

As I mentioned in the story, try more stretch plays, sprinkle in a little more Wildcat, give the defense more looks with Austin in motion threatening the jet sweep, etc. The worst thing you can do is just quit trying.
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Do Bradford and Foles really look better or is the talent just better around them?

I think a lot of it has to do with the talent around them, and also the fit. In Andy Reid, Foles is back with the coach who brought him into the league. And Bradford now is back with the OC (Pat Shurmur) who helped him win offensive rookie of the year honors in 2010 in StL and post career-best numbers last year in Philly.

Foles just looks like he has more confidence than he did for much of his time with the Rams in St. Louis. And unfortunately for Bradford, the Vikings' pass-blocking issues make it look more and more like the worst of his time in StL.
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Your comment about Foles and Bradford brings up an interesting question. Is Fisher and his staff able to adapt what they want to do to the available talent?

I'd say to a degree. They certainly did in 2013, when they re-dedicated to running the football with Zac Stacy as the feature back 4 games into the season. Used a lot of 2_ and 3-TE formations, etc. But for the most part, it seems like the Fisher Rams have lacked an identity on offense.
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I watched the Rams game Sunday and Lynch was all over Gurley.. "not hitting the right hole, "not running really hard like last year" and more. What I saw was not many holes and a lot of Carolina people always at the line.

When you rarely throw deep there are more people around the line. It think we need a new coach and offensive thinkers and see what parts really fit and what doesn't. Tough to watch each week.

Yeah, but there were the exact same issues last season, yet Gurley found a way to top 1,000 yards. I would even say that the Rams are throwing the ball better down field this season than they did a year ago.
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I expected a longer honeymoon period in LA. First quarter of the third game in the Coliseum and the Rams are booed. Did you see that coming? I guess it says a lot about the product this team puts out there week after week.



I heard, jeers directed at Goff from fans during the very first weekend of training camp in Irvine. It's a different market. Winning isn't enough. You've also got to entertain. The Rams aren't really doing either at this point.
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Despite all the public happy talk, do you think there's some growing tension in the locker room between the defense and the pathetic offense? Can Fisher lose the team?

This has been going on for years with the Rams: lousy offense vs. good defense. I think it's some sort of karmic (sp?) payback for the Greatest Show on Turf. It's nothing new. If such a fracture was going to develop, I think we would've seen it already.
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You have alluded to the fact that Demoff received his job not through his own merrits but for some other reasons. Understandably you have kept a tight lid on that rumor saying only that you wont go further into details that have already emerged. Will there be a time when you will disclose how Demoff got his job? Is it as sinister as we believe it to be?



I find it humorous, in a good way, that you remember that and are bringing this up. What I and others have heard is more "urban legend" than fact based. It would be next to impossible to prove. So I'll leave it at that. Sorry. . . .
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Maybe some of Gurley's problems are due to him only carrying the ball 3 times in the preseason? It certainly didn't look like the team was ready to play on opening night!

Perhaps. I understand doing that with a veteran, like Marshall Faulk and Steven Jackson in their prime. But it seemed a little odd for a player with 13 games of NFL experience. And I'm not saying you necessarily want to give Gurley 50 carries in the preseason. But maybe 20-25.
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George Boone certainly made some odd draft day selections during his time with the Big Red. The Rams have chosen poorly over the years. Is it really that hard to identify players who can succeed in the NFL? New England seems to always find the right players. Do the Rams over-value potential versus actual college success?

It's harder for some teams more than others. Part of it is "fit" _ having a scouting department that knows how to find and identify the type of players that fit the philosophy of your head coach. Too often, the Rams under Fisher-Snead have paid too much attention to the stopwatch, measurable, and potential as opposed to actual production, football IQ, and intangibles.

Too often they've become enamored with players based on private workouts (See: Brian Quick) rather than their body of work and how a player's skill set might translate to the NFL.
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Yeah, the LA "fans" boo in the third game at the Coliseum. The STL fans tried to tell the LA idiots what they were getting, but we were accused of being sour grapes because they were moving. I don't care if they had been playing games on the moon, they absolutely stunk the last 12 years.

Well all I can say is if LA Rams are booing after 3 home games, try 12 years of this stuff.
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while watching Hardknocks, I was thinking Jeff Fisher is much too soft to be an NFL coach, I thought there was not enough discipline and accountability. You know him better than I do, what do you think?

I think you're onto something regarding Fisher. Players really like playing for Fisher, but when you're the head coach you can't be everyone's best friend. I don't think there is enough accountability on Fisher's teams. I think that's a legitimate knock against him.
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Is there a point at which the NFL office asks Stan "What's the plan Stan?" It just seems they put the "Shield" out there when they agreed to move the Rams to LA and now they look like fools, no surprise here.

LA will not wait for the palace to be finished to watch good football, heck it seems they are already turning on the team after week 8. Surely there must have been some requirements made of Stan by the league for such an embarrassing result to date.

A consistent theme I heard throughout the relocation process was that the league wanted the NFL to be a success in LA when a team moved back there. But in the end, greed trumped all as it almost always does for the NFL. The league gets a shiny new stadium, the owners get a relocation fee, and a bigger visiting check, and that's that.
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Do you see Goff starting this season? If he does not and the Rams continue to struggle will Fisher get his extension?

I'm surprised Fisher's back after 4 consecutive losing seasons. The Rams operate on a different wavelength on these things. I do think we'll see Goff start at some point before the end of the season. . . .Then again, you're talking to someone who thought the NFL put some stock in their relocation guidelines.
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Do you think the obvious missed calls by refs all year, are impacting the ratings? I know the NFL has said the election coverage has hampered it, but some of the blatant missed calls are frustrating (such as the obvious roughing the kicker missed call last night).

Don't get me wrong, the refs totally botched that field sequence and it could've cost Buffalo a chance to at least send the game into overtime. But there have been bad calls going on for years. It seems like the refrain is heard year after year: "I can't believe how bad the officiating is this year." So I myself don't think bad officiating is affecting the ratings.
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The officiating at the end of the first half last night was beyond atrocious. How do these referees not have any accountability for blatantly butchering their jobs?

Usually, the NFL waits until after the season and then quietly either reassigns, demotes, or "retires" bad officials. But shouldn't someone in the league office at least have corrected the crew on the delay of game call?
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Further to what you said, I have to wonder if Fisher and Kroenke have an understanding whereas Fisher was told to ride out the transition, "develop" Goff in year 1, that is, don't throw him to the wolves with a bad Oline and no go-to receivers in a desperate attempt to save his job, then Fisher will be paid to ride off into the California sunset in the off-season. Maybe even Fisher is tired of losing. Far fetched I know, but nothing makes sense right now.

There's another factor at work as well. Coaches always want to play the players who they think give them the best chance to win. There's no doubt in my mind that Fisher feels Keenum gives him the best chance to win. (Call him delusional if you will. . . .)

But there's some self-preservation at work here. If Fisher can scrape out a 9-7 or 8-8 with Keenum _ or even make the playoffs _ maybe he feels that saves his job. Go with Goff, and you're starting from scratch. Goff probably takes some lumps, and Fisher's almost assured of another losing season and he's out the door.


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Just curious - who were some lousy Rams to (try to) interview over the years? Was anyone mean or nasty?

Very, very few I'd put in the mean or nasty category. Marshall Faulk could be very moody. Robert Jones, the former Dallas LB, was way too arrogant for his status as a player. Lawrence Phillips had no respect for reporters. But 99 percent of them were good to deal with.
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How does Fisher not intervene during the game when he sees his RB get two carries in 2nd half? It's not like he has Norv Turner calling the plays, oh, wait

Good point. All you have to say is 4 words: "Give Gurley the ball." But maybe Fisher lacks confidence in Gurley as well and didn't mind throwing it as much.


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Norv Turner resigned from the Vikes because he said he was "holding them back." But shouldn't a veteran coach like him be able to figure out how to get the most out of the team? Troy Aikman thinks Norv is one of the all-time great play-callers. Sounds more like philosophical differences. Can you provide any more insight?

I don't have any inside info there. As you know it's rare for a head coach or coordinator to resign on his own in the middle of the season. There was some talk that Turner might retire at the end of this season anyway. Maybe he simply grew so frustrated that he decided to do it now.
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All of these "winnable" games left for the Rams that might get them in the playoffs are also losable games because, after all, we're talking about the losingest NFL franchise since 2007 - yes, lost more games in that time frame than the Browns

No doubt. The Rams won three games by a total of 15 points earlier in the season; now they've lost their last three by a total of 13 points. Usually, close games _ or winnable games _ have a way of evening themselves out over the course of a season.
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Is it possible Kroenke can sack Fisher while keeping the defensive coaches?

Possible, but not likely. Usually an incoming head coach wants to bring in his own people.
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The Rams troika of Demoff, Snead, and Fisher have had 72 games to shape a winning product. Thus far, they have failed to do it. At what point does Kroenke or his closest advisers realize that these guys are essentially clueless as to how to compete and win in the modern NFL and clean house?

How much more regression instead of improvement can be tolerated? Does the StanK recognize that the "new" LA fan base is already turning on the team? How can he risk alienating them further?

I give Fisher-Snead a lot of credit for taking the Rams from the 15-65 nightmare that was 2007 through 2011. And at least getting the team back to respectability. Trouble is, they've been stuck on that same 7-9 treadmill ever since. They've had tons of draft picks. The team has basically spent to the cap every year. But no breakout year. I don't know what's in Stan Kroenke's head. But now that the team has moved, you'd think he'd have figured it out.
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Re Goff: Is Fisher not playing him because he doesn't believe he is good enough (yet), or because he doesn't think Goff significantly improves their chances of winning, or because he believes it's better to protect him for a season whilst the o-line (and offence in general) is so awful?

I truly believe Fisher thinks Keenum gives them the best chance to win. Which doesn't reflect very well on Goff, now does it?
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So how do you rate the Barron contract?

It was more than I thought he'd get simply because I don't think there was much of a market for what Barron does (the undersized linebacker) elsewhere. But it also means you have to pay Ogletree more than $9 million a year to keep him. Significantly more, I would think. But Barron is playing well. He's an aggressive, productive player.
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Seen anything obvious about Keenum's recent interceptions? The one last weekend and the previous couple game ending ones seem like they all came out of nowhere and almost right to defenders. Is he not seeing them, just bad throws, trying to squeeze the ball into space that isnt there?

A couple of things. Like most QBs, Keenum doesn't seem to respond well when under pressure by the pass rush. And several of his INTs have come in those situations. And because he's short in stature, I just wonder if he's seeing the field well as he should at times. Yes, I know shorter QBs like Drew Brees and Russell Wilson see the field just fine, but I wonder about Keenum in those situations.
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Am I a bad person for absolutely reveling in the dysfunction and the continuation of the incompetence of the Rams? It's so great to see the comedy show continue.



No, you're not. You must be a St. Louis Rams fan.


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I think Fisher and Snead absolutely suck as talent evaluators and talent acquirers but I have to admit they still won the RG3 trade. ( 3 starters with team and 1 more in league). I can only think about that blind pig rule applies here. I am glad I no longer live and die each Sunday with these dudes at the helm.

I don't know if I'd get that carried away over Brockers, Ogletree, and Greg Robinson. Ogletree of course is very good. Brockers pretty good. But GRob is just a couple of steps removed from the bust label. So the trade hardly has been transformative for the Rams, especially when you consider they got 8 draft picks in the deal.
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what is your take on the NFL's declining television ratings? Do you think the league is less entertaining than when you first started covering it? This is probably one of those questions that doesn't have an easy answer, but interested in hearing your thoughts.

There's no one answer for the decline in ratings. I think a variety of factors are at play, and in no particular order: A.) Bad matchups and non-competitive games. B.) Compelling election year. C.) Once in a lifetime World Series matchup. D.) Too many interruptions in play for reviews, penalties, TV timeouts, etc. E.) Backlash over Kaepernick anthem protest. F.) Use of new technology to watch games on phones, etc., which isn't measured in ratings.

G.) General negative feelings towards league, whether it's from uprooting teams from markets, failure to be consistent on issues such as domestic violence, concerns over concussion issue. H.) Lack of star power minus Peyton Manning, with no Romo and Adrian Peterson because of injuries, and no Brady for 4 games because of suspension. Overall, I think the league is viewed as more arrogant and greedy than ever by many.
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I love reading your take on games like Sunday! More Rams stupidity please!



Thx. The day after every Rams game we have a Rams Rewind _ with my observations on that game _ posted online on stltoday.
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I can't help but think that this "Football is Family" BS is making a lot of viewers jaded, as in, "oh, yeah. Like the 'Family' in St. Louis? And now the 'Family" in Oakland and possibly San Diego?" If the family is loaded with money - like LA and/or Vegas, well, then everyone is suddenly kissin' cousins, I suppose. And how stupid does the NFL think the rest of the country really is?

How many people in how many other towns realize that their teams are just pawns in an ever-fluid chess game that entails moving pieces hither, thither and yon in a never-ending quest for the most gold. I think people realize the NFL has NO LOYALTY to fans, only to their own pocketbooks.

I think it came as a shock, as well, when fans found out that the NFL made the military PAY for all those spots on halftime shows -- and then didn't interfere -- and maybe didn't care (who knows?) with the obvious dissing of police officers by some players.

Add too many commercials, a bad flow to the game, poor officiating (NFL could afford to pay full-time professional officials), etc., etc., and no wonder ratings are tanking. I just hope they continue to slide down into the abyss. Yes, I am bitter.

Hey, you don't have 12 consecutive non-winning seasons by accident.
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Fisher is delusional. How can he roll out the same offense, with the same players, with the same game plan, week after week after week, expecting different results? At this point, even Fisher has to accept that Keenum is what he is, and that there are going to be turnovers.

Isn't that the definition of insanity?


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Does Fisher have the authority to replace Snead? That is, if Fisher survives. I mean someone has to be thrown under the proverbial bus, right?

Not in terms of anything contractually.
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How will it look for Fish if we lose the next 3 , he makes the switch and Goff wins 3 out of 5 to end season? The premise of we will play him once we are out of playoff race is madness right?

It will look bad. Very bad.
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The best thing Kroenke could do to rebuild the "buzz" in LA would be to hire Mike Martz as HC, don't you think?

Or Jon Gruden.


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As of November 1st, Rams LT Greg Robinson was the most penalized player in the entire NFL. Considering the overall flaccid performance of the Rams O-Line in 2016, is it now becoming abundantly clear to most observers that GRob is a flat out bust?

All I can say is I would've drafted Jake Matthews.
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Maybe Fisher should dress 3 QBs and that way he can at least put Mannion in when Case sucks this week

Mannion looked much-improved in the preseason.
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Four more losses will secure another losing season for the Rams. Here they are: Saints, Pats, Falcons, Seahawks.

Yes, but knowing the Fisher track record, they'll beat at least one of those four, but lose to a lesser team (such as the Jets, Miami, Arizona, or even San Fran).
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If San Diego doesn't get the vote to pass through today, what do you think will happen? Chargers move in with Kroenke? What other options do they have?

They can act on that LA option, sharing the stadium with Stan. Or just stay in San Diego and try to work something out there.
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As hard as it was to see the Ram's leave STL, it's been so much more enjoyable and fulfilling to root against them than it has been to cheer for them the last decade in the dome. Not too mention, I get an extra $1500 in my pocket by not having to purchase tickets to see the same sorry results. The NFL really did us STL fans a huge favor in hindsight.



So you're one of those hate-watchers? But what happens if, say in 5 years, the team somehow becomes good? Will that be tough for you?
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What do you think our biggest needs are?

I STILL have to go with OL. Watching Dak have all day to throw, and seeing Elliot run wild has me begging for a good offensive line. Quick and Britt are pleasant surprises, and I can only imagine what a better QB could do with them.

After that I'd go with CB, LE, WR.

http://theramswire.usatoday.com/201...ff-fisher-fired-contract-extension-les-snead/

If so this my last year as rams fan

After the first two or three games, I got sick of the team continuing to run the ball on 2nd and Long without any success. Yes, it's usually considered a "good" running down, as most defenses, expecting a pass, will take a defender or two out of the box.

However, that obviously hasn't been the case with the Rams. In fact, running the ball on 2nd and Long has basically become a drive killer for the team.

The worst-rushing team in the league, Minnesota, has run the ball 214 times for a 2.7 average. The Giants are the next-worst but are averaging a half-yard better at 3.2.

However, on 2nd down with 8-12 yards to go, the Rams have run the ball 21 times for just 48 yards....a 2.3 average--nearly half a yard worse than the worst running team in the league. And, again, they're doing this on downs when defenses are expecting a pass, which makes it even more unbelievable. This dismal stat illustrates that the Rams' problems running the ball isn't due to Gurley, but the offensive line...something all non-fantasy owners should realize anyway..

Gains per rush: 1, 2, 5, -2, 4, 2, 0, 3, 3, 0, 3, 3, -4. 5, 3, 5, 3, 7, -1, 6, 0.
First downs achieved: 0.

I can't say that I blame him. While I was happy we didn't get flagged on the Barron or Donald sacks, flags could have been thrown. Maybe the refs turned a blind eye because of Cams whining???


http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...na-panthers-submit-another-hit-cam-newton-nfl

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Carolina Panthers coach Ron Rivera saw one hit that his quarterback, Cam Newton, took in the pocket during Sunday's victory at Los Angeles that concerns him enough to contact the NFL for review.




Replay could be solution to end weekly debate over hits on Cam Newton
If the NFL is serious about protecting its top stars from head injuries, it's time to allow officials to review any questionable hits to quarterbacks.



But Rivera said the conversations he and Newton had separately with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell last week about the league MVP not getting treated fairly in the pocket wasn't a waste of time.

Rivera actually defended the officiating Sunday, taking a softer tone on his concerns than a week ago.

"It's tough," Rivera said Monday. "It's tough for them to judge things as they happen at full speed and from the angles [and] all that kind of stuff. But there was one of concern, and we'll send it and see what the league has to say and we'll go from there.

"Other than that, I thought they handled it very well. ... So just one of concern, and we'll talk about if they agree or disagree. But for the most part that's just the nature of the game."

Newton took what appeared to be two shots to the helmet on sacks -- one by Rams safety Mark Barron and another by defensive tackle Aaron Donald. Neither was called for roughing the passer, so Newton's streak of not having that penalty enforced on the defense since 2014 remains intact.

Rivera would not comment on which hit he sent to the league.

"I'll leave it at that and discuss it with the league," he said.

Barron came at Newton with a hard forearm that landed in the upper body of the quarterback. His face mask appeared to make contact with Newton's helmet as well.

Donald launched himself into the air and came down on Newton with his helmet making contact with the quarterback's helmet.

Both came a week after Newton complained about not being treated fairly in the pocket against Arizona, which turned into a phone conversation with Goodell.

Asked about the officiating while he was in the pocket on Sunday, Newton said, "I'm not worried about that. Just trying to find ways to win the football game."

One of Rivera's issues is the way players tackle today as opposed to when he was a linebacker for the Chicago Bears (1984-92).

"Tackling was different. We hit, wrap and drove your feet," Rivera said. "You squared him up, used your face mask, put your head to the side, shoulder tackle.

"Today when you watch guys, you see guys launching, you see guys basically trying to butt people off their feet, knock people off their feet. It's a little bit different from then. If you go back and look at tackling form the 80s and 90s, it's vastly different from today."

But it was apparent Rivera wanted to take the focus off the way Newton has been treated in the pocket and shed light on what he believes is a league-wide issue regarding tackling.

"It's all the way through the league," he said, noting it's not just hits on quarterbacks that concern him. "It happens. Refereeing is hard. It's not simple. Let's be honest, it's tough to see."

Rivera said that's why he waited until Monday to comment on the officiating instead of making a judgment on Sunday.

"I get the benefit of slowing it down, looking at slow motion," he said. "These guys are trying to get it right and trying to do their job the best they can.

"It's the big-time egregious ones that everybody should be worried about. Not the ones that are hard to see or tough to see, that looks like football."

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How about Higbee's career hightlight catch?

Ok, instead, enjoy our awesome D!

Multiple reports came out that Fisher will play Goff when the season is over. Rams now have a 12% chance to make the playoffs. Lets say they go on a magical run, leapfrog teams they have lost to like the Giants and Lions and somehow get into the playoffs at 9-7. What good can come out of that? There is no way Keenum will be able to go on the road and win a playoff game. Keenum wont be the starter come next season, heck he probably wont beon the roster next season. So, NEXT season, the Rams will trot out a rookie QB and start anew. Can we please move the process along sooner so there IS some hope for 17'?

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/rams-734648-games-team.html

The chants echoed across the Coliseum on Sunday, the frustration and anger apparent as fans urged Rams coach Jeff Fisher to make the switch at quarterback.

“We want Goff. We want Goff,” their voices rose, pleading with Fisher to make the switch from Case Keenum to Jared Goff.

More than 80,000 fans had packed the Coliseum.

There was no question what they were saying.

Or who their words were directed at.

Without question, the fans were aiming their ire at Fisher.

Problem was – at least according to Fisher – he didn’t hear them.

“I honestly didn’t hear them root for Jared,” Fisher said.

Didn’t hear them?

Or just didn’t want to hear them?

Either way, Fisher isn’t budging. So don’t expect a change at quarterback until the Rams are officially eliminated from playoff contention. And considering their fourth straight loss Sunday to the Carolina Panthers sent the Rams scrambling to 3-5 on the season, that day is drawing closer.

In any event, here are some observations from another lost Sunday for the Rams.

ON THE BRIGHT SIDE, THAT DEFENSE
The Rams held Eli Manning and the Giants offense to one touchdown in London.

They limited the Panthers and Cam Newton to one touchdown as well.

That’s playoff-caliber defense.

If only the offense could join the party.

Until then, the margin for error is zero.

“No games are easy,” Rams linebacker Alec Ogletree said. “I feel like, I’ve said all the time, our team is built to win close games. You can see, every game that we’ve kind of lost, we’ve been there close at the end. We just haven’t found a way to finish those games, but we’re built to play close games and we’re going to have to find a way to win those close games.”

The trick now is keeping the Rams defense inspired and engaged and hope the offense finally holds up its end of the bargain.

“We have to continue to keep the defense playing at this rate, this effort, and with the production. We have to find a way to get some turnovers on defense, however, and we have to figure out a way to score some points,” Fisher said. “I’m very disappointed, but we’ll bounce back. Four consecutive in the loss column is not good, and the only way you can win four in the win column is you go out and win the next one, so that’s where we’re at. I think the team understands that. They understand where we’re at. We’re not getting the turnovers. Turnovers hurt us in London, and the one turnover today hurt us, but there were some outstanding efforts out there today and that was a good football team.”

THE RAMS ARE NO LONGER A RUNNING TEAM
The Rams came into this season insisting they are a run-first team behind Todd Gurley and an improved offensive line, with Keenum game-managing at quarterback while occasionally taking shots down field off play-action pass.

That’s what they said.

But with Gurley finding little room to work behind a line that’s looked overwhelmed at times – and against defenses that stack the line of scrimmage daring Keenum to beat them with the pass – the Rams the last two games have completely gotten away from who they are.

Two weeks after throwing the ball 53 times in a close loss to the New York Giants – and insisting afterward they aren’t built to throw that much – they dialed up 47 more throws against the Panthers.

Gurley got 15 carries against the Giants and a season-low 12 against the Panthers.

That’s a problem, especially when the offense produced just two touchdowns in the process and lost both games.

“I don’t control the play-calling – (offensive coordinator) Coach (Rob) Boras does a great job. It’s a team game, you can’t get the ball every time,” Gurley said.

Maybe, but a week after Boras insisted the Rams got away from who they are it’s hard to imagine doing the same exact thing the very next game.

Gurley is a home run hitter whose chances to take a run to the end zone increase with the amount number of touches he gets.

The Rams are essentially removing him from consideration.

“Like I said, obviously everybody wants the ball in their hands,” Gurley said, “But it’s a team game, I trust in my guys as much as they trust in me.”

THE RAMS ARE FRUSTRATED
It wasn’t so long ago the Rams were standing at 3-1 and thinking legitimately about the playoffs.

They’ve lost four straight since.

And the frustration is everywhere.

“Crushed. We’re just absolutely crushed,” offensive guard Rodger Saffold said. “Enough is enough. We know we need to put more work in on offense and have to score touchdowns. I don’t blame any one group. I don’t blame coaching. I don’t blame anything, but just collectively, we need figure it out. Our defense is out here putting up games. We need to be able to capitalize. Enough is enough. Enough with just sitting around and saying, ‘Let’s stick together.’ It’s time to just go power it in.”

Saffold is a proud man with good intent

The problem is, the Rams have been saying essentially the same thing the last four games.

There really isn't any such thing as a Rams bandwagon anymore. lol. That thing dumped all of its passengers in 2007. It's not about jumping on or off that jalopy. I'm just off the message board circuit until such a time that the team is doing much better, and then maybe I'll jump back on if or when that time comes. Or not. I'm putting way too much of my time into this thing, and it's just not paying the kinds of dividends I want (though I am stupid with fat stacks of ROD cash). And there are too many ways to experience joy without introducing negativity into the equation. So I think ima just do that. The wife will dig it too, but she'll have to sacrifice 3 hours every Sunday, because ... RAMS.

This is just my hang-up, not anyone else's. I get it. We're not winning and it's all (insert whoever)'s fault. And I understand the soon to follow retort of, "What's there to be happy about? Should we all sit around and sing Kumbaya together? We're 3-5!" No, you shouldn't. You should be able to express your frustrations freely without having me jump in and try to teach you about life or any number of things I do that push the boundaries. I just wanna have fun (please, no Cyndi Lauper references), I wanna be happy, and I don't wanna fight with anyone anymore. In an epiphany of sorts, I've realized my struggle stems from continuously trying to make people see things through my lens, and that's not only selfish, but also presumptuous. And by pushing that on you, constantly, and without invite, it's making me become the guy I don't wanna be when you push back. Anyway. I've apologized to a couple of you personally already, but I'll extend that out to whomever else I might have offended recently as well. I'm sorry that I insinuated your feelings were wrong or that you're not doing this whole fandom thing the right way. You're grown men with your own personalities and coping mechanisms, and I should have respected that instead of railing on you for it.

But yeah. I'm not gonna rage-quit on ya like most people do when they've reached their limit. Just gonna fly solo for a while. It's the only fair thing to do for you ... and for me. But you know me. I can't leave without one final act of defiance. lol. So I'm gonna leave you with this quote from one of my favorite authors, Thich Nhat Hanh, with the hope that it resonates even a little. “Hope is important because it can make the present moment less difficult to bear. If we believe that tomorrow will be better, we can bear a hardship today.” . Now be good to the board, and to your buds. The dudes who run it now try really hard to set this place apart. Help them realize that goal, yeah? Thanks.



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Rams Head Coach Jeff Fisher – Press Conference – November 7, 2016


(Opening Remarks):
“When you lose consecutively like we did there’s always a point of emphasis, or a focus that goes in, to see what’s going on. Obviously, as a staff today, as we looked at the tape, some things came up that were – I guess I’m stating the obvious with respect to them – but ten points in the last two weeks offensively is not going to get it done. That’s by and large the biggest issue that we’re facing right now, is our lack of ability to score points. Then of course, on the other side of the ball, on defense, we’ve had one turnover in the last three weeks. When you only get one turnover, it’s hard to turn the ball over to your offense. We’re not playing particularly well on third down defensively, so we’re not getting the additional drives or the opportunities for big plays. We all see it and I think the biggest challenge for us offensively is running the football. (RB) Todd’s (Gurley) not getting enough carries, our passing numbers were skewed. But if you’re realistic, we’ve had a lot of two-minute snaps the last two weeks. Those people that are saying that we are throwing it almost 50 times a game and running it 20 or 25, well 15 or so of those plays in each one of the last two games have been in two-minute, at the end. We’re doing whatever we can to try and win games, it’s just not happening.


“We put it in perspective for the players. Players understand. As we told them, we need to flip the switch, we’re in the second half of the season. Our goal, like anybody else in the league right now, is to compete and contend for the division. That starts with a potential win, a great week of preparation rather, and then a win here at New York (Jets). From a health stand point, we’re good – I think we’re better than most teams right now. I may have mentioned to you after the game, but we started the same 22 players yesterday that we basically started in the opener. That’s encouraging and we’re just going to keep working at it, get them back, and have a good week – got a long trip and go out and should we put one together. But understanding that the only change you have to put together is to score points – we need to do that.”


(On where things are at with the quarterback situation)
“Case (Keenum) is starting.”


(On what specifically is QB Jared Goff missing in order to become the starter quarterback)
“Jared is improving. I keep saying that as you guys keep asking the questions, he’s improving. But, Case right now, especially against this defense, give us our best chance. It’s an extremely complicated defense, and they can pressure the quarterback, they can do anything they want to do. They’re very, very talented. Our focus is this week against the Jets, and Case will be under center.”


(On what specifically is Goff improving on, and what has he not mastered in order to give him enough confidence to insert him as the starter)
“I’ve been saying from day one, we’re going to play him when the time is right, and when he’s ready. With each passing week, he’s getting better and better. He’s better understanding, he recognizes things, he’s prepared, he understands the challenges week-to-week. There was a moment yesterday when Case came out. He had an extreme contusion to his non-throwing hand, and there was a chance – we didn’t know on the sideline – but there was a potential chance for a fracture. So, I said, ‘Jared, get warmed up. Get ready to go.’ He goes, ‘Coach, I’m ready.’ I said, ‘I know you are. Let’s see where Case’s forearm is, and we’ll go from there.’ Then, it was determined that is was just a contusion and not a fracture. But, that’s his mindset. I know everybody wants to talk about it, and that’s the big question. Again, he’s going to play. Whether it’s the following week, or the following week, or what have you, it’s eventually going to happen. The big picture, as I keep saying, this is about making sure that he’s ready to go out there and be sharp, and give us a chance to win. The quarterback position is not easy – Andy Dalton, (Philip) Rivers, Jay Cutler, (Drew) Brees, (Andrew) Luck, Cam Newton, (Ben) Roethlisberger, (Joe) Flacco, and (Aaron) Rodgers, that’s a good list – That’s an impressive list of quarterbacks. The one thing they have in common – two things rather – other than being really, really good quarterbacks, a number of them have rings, is right now, their records are .500 or worse. So, that shows you how hard it is to play at the quarterback position. We’re taking our time, we’re being patient, and when we feel it’s the right time, he’ll be under center.”


(On if there will be a tipping point to when Goff will start) OR (On if Goff will be the starter if the team falls out of playoff contention)
“I don’t think the playoff contention is fair to the football team, so we’ll see. Our expectations are we’re going to stay in it, so we’ll see. I’m not ruling out the possibility that he’ll make a playoff run for us as well. But for right now, Case is starting and we’re going to New York.”


(On if the challenge to incorporate RB Todd Gurley in the run game was harder than he had anticipated coming into the season)
“Yeah, good question. It’s been a much greater challenge. Defenses are saying, ‘Don’t let Gurley or Tavon beat you and put the ball down the field.’ We’ve got to do a better job, we recognize that. Todd’s number of carries the last few weeks are not what we would like. I think they’re 15, 14, and 12. Those numbers need to get up in the 20s. Again, they’re offset a little bit by our third-down stuff, in addition to the two-minute snaps. But, his touches and his numbers need to increase significantly. That’s what we discussed, and what we’re working on right now offensively.”


(On why RB Benny Cunningham is better suited for the two-minute offense than Gurley)
“There’s nothing that Todd doesn’t give us in two-minutes, and there’s nothing that Todd can’t do on third down. We have a tandem, we have one, two, we’ve got Todd on first and second down, because we have so much trust in Benny on the third down stuff. Again, Benny can make plays, because you’ve seen him make plays. That’s kind of how we deploy our personnel. Todd was in on some third down reps, but when we go to two-minute, or we’re in the third-and-long, or something like that, Benny is the back that gives us the opportunity. Todd understands everything. It’s just a matter of – I don’t want to say not committing to Todd – but, Todd is going to need a break. He needs a break every once in a while, and basically our philosophy going in, that’s how we’ve been since Benny has been productive for us, that Benny has been our third down guy and two-minute, and Todd has been our bell cow during the other series.”


(On how he would evaluate the offensive line’s performance)
“We gave up four sacks and that’s not good – although, this defense sacked (Cardinals QB) Carson Palmer eight times the week before. So, there were some good things in the game. There were a couple mistakes, a couple holding penalties, but we’re healthy and we’re progressing. Our offensive struggles are related to the entire team – you can’t blame it all on the offensive line, we had five drops yesterday, we dropped a touchdown pass you can’t blame that on the offensive line. You catch the touchdown pass and you’re lucky to kick a 55-yard field goal, the game’s different, we win and our offensive line played pretty good against one of the better defensive fronts in the league. I think you have to be realistic and keep things in perspective.”


(On if not having an official determination on his future makes him uncomfortable)
“No, I’m not uncomfortable at all. I’m uncomfortable because I didn’t expect to be three-and-whatever we are, okay, but I’m not uncomfortable at all. I never look over my shoulder, we’re moving on. (Rams Owner/Chairman) Stan (Kroenke) and I are on the same page, he understands what we’ve been through, he’s as disappointed as I am at the losses – two three-points and a seven-point in the last three games. He understands that we’re competitive and we’re doing everything we possibly can to get this turned around.”


(On if he has to keep an eye on how the defense is doing mentally to make sure they don’t start to get frustrated)
“What we’re going to do, we’re going to get the defense to help the offense on the practice field, that’s how you handle that. The defense gave up 31 points three weeks ago in Detroit – or three games ago. Every week there’s a different challenge. I thought, in the game defensively, it was one of our better efforts. I thought the game-planning was outstanding, the coaches did an outstanding job, the players responded, we got everybody back, we didn’t get the turnovers, but we bottled up a very, very explosive offense and held them to 13 points. If you’re a defensive guy, the 13 points was too much because we didn’t win the football game. The attitudes are different on both sides of the ball. But, no, I’m not concerned about the defense, they played really hard, they played smart, they played fast, they played physical – there was a lot of contact in the game. We just have to make sure that that becomes our standard.”


(On what he thought of the 10 penalties on Sunday)
“We did have 10. The two on special teams, I disagreed with. The holding penalty on (DE) Eugene (Sims) on the reverse, I really completely disagreed with it. The same thing with (RB) Chase’s (Reynolds) penalty on the punt return, I didn’t agree with that, either. We had the two defensive offsides. The last penalty, which was on the onside kick, you can scratch that, that was just kind of one of those things that happens. But the holding penalties, the defensive offsides and then the DPI (defensive pass interference) – the DPI shouldn’t happen – (DB) Lamarcus (Joyner) should have played the ball better. Yeah, statistically, we had 10, I would acknowledge maybe six of them.”


(On CB E.J. Gaines’ status)
“Oh, he’s fine. Yeah, he’s fine.”


(On if the penalties, the drops and the inconsistencies are a matter of coaching or personnel and how he addresses it)
“It’s hard to talk in general terms about it. For example, we’re behind in the game and their best asset on defense is rushing the passer and (T) Rob (Havenstein) gives up an inside move – he’s been playing well the whole game – gives up and inside move and grabs to make sure the quarterback is not hit. That’s not an athletic-ability deficiency at the right tackle, it’s just one of those things that happens. You have to look at each one of those penalties, in particular, to come to conclusion on that. Nonetheless, the penalties, we had two defensive offsides, (DT) Cam (Thomas) and (DE) Rob (Quinn) just were drawn offsides, they shouldn’t be drawn offsides – they should never be drawn offsides at home – but they were trying to rush the passer. Again, the special teams penalties, I disagreed with. We don’t allow those things to happen on the practice field, we coach them. I disagreed with a number of calls. This particular crew was the crew that did the Oakland-Tampa Bay game last week, so that’ll tell you something.”


(On WR Pharoh Cooper and TE Tyler Higbee getting more integrated into the offense)
“Yeah, ‘Higs’ made the big play – it was a great throw by Case, ‘Higs’ came up and made the big play. He needs to play better, he’s starting to figure it out now and we’ve got him involved. He needs to be better at the point of attack and he knows that. Nonetheless, he did come down with the big catch and a field position change. ‘Coop,’ he’s healthy, we worked him into the offense last week. For all intents and purposes, we’re going to continue to work him in and he’ll probably see a little bit more playing time offensively. I’m pleased with where he is right now. We just need to get the ball in his hands. Then again, I’m adding another person to the list that we need to get the ball in his hands – Gurley and Tavon. He’s a playmaker, he’s taken on his special teams responsibilities and he’s accepted them. He’ll be able, I think, you’ll see more of him. I’d like to be able to keep him up now.”

Bills up early on the Seabitches!

Nice punt return and a walk in touchdown by T-Mobile.

It’s time we started asking a different question about the Los Angeles Rams’ quarterback situation: Namely, how bad could Jared Goff be?

Three wins in a row after an ugly beatdown on opening weekend bought Rams head coach Jeff Fisher and the team some breathing room and an acceptance of the party line that Case Keenum was the best option for the team under center, given that Goff, the No. 1 overall pick in the 2016 draft, needed more time to be ready. But those wins have now been exceeded by four losses in a row, three of which have come at home.

The team has only avoided a turnover once this season on offense, and has had five in the past two games — a run during which Keenum has been near-disastrous.

On HBO’s “Hard Knocks” series this preseason, Fisher made a point of not wanting to be a 7-9 team, and the Rams right now are not on course to be — they’re going to fall short. At the halfway point of their season they are on track for a 6-10 record, and the No.1 overall pick of the draft has still yet to step foot on the field.

Over the past two weeks, Keenum has had PFF grades of 40.7 and 41.1 — which are terrible marks. The obvious counter would be that a rookie would be even worse, but looking at every game played by a rookie QB this season, there have only been two games graded below 40. Philadelphia’s Carson Wentz and Dallas’ Dak Prescott have each had poor performances in recent weeks when they went up against an elite defensive front that put them under all kinds of pressure.

The Rams don’t have a good offensive line, but 16 QBs have been pressured on a greater percentage of their dropbacks this season than Keenum, including Atlanta’s Matt Ryan, who leads the league in passing yards, touchdown passes and is second in passer rating and PFF grade.

Against the Giants, Keenum’s passer rating under pressure was 10. This week it was 27.6. For the season, his passer rating when kept clean is actually 95.8. If the Rams could guarantee him a perfect pocket to throw from each week they would be fine with him at the helm, but the wheels fall off when the heat is applied like few other QBs in the league. Over the entire season he has a passer rating of 31.2 when pressured and has completed under 40 percent of his passes on those throws, tossing five interceptions compared with just one touchdown pass.

Keenum’s drop in passer rating from a clean pocket to being under pressure is the third-steepest in the league in 2016, trailing only Miami’s Ryan Tannehill and Jacksonville’s Blake Bortles, both of whom are having poor seasons.

Every rookie with meaningful snaps has a better relative drop in passer rating than Keenum this season. Cleveland’s Cody Kessler – a third-round pick – drops just 14.8 points when pressured and still has a passer rating of 87.2 when the heat is applied, which is very close to the league average on all throws overall.

So again, the question must be asked: Just how not ready can Jared Goff be?

Over his final two college seasons Goff was under pressure plenty — 29.7 percent of dropbacks in 2015 and 31.6 percent the year before that — and while playing college defenses certainly help with this, his passer rating those two seasons on those plays was 87.1 and 90.6.



Goff showed the ability to stand in the pocket and deliver the ball under pressure and with rushers in his face, and while he undoubtedly needed time to learn an NFL playbook and looked anything but ready to go during the preseason, we are now halfway through the year, and he has had another two months to absorb the playbook.

In the preseason, Goff’s performance was ugly, but so was Kessler’s, and Kessler has stepped up in a significant way once the lights came on in the regular season, and done so with a comparably weak supporting cast.

At this point the Rams season is likely over from any practical standpoint. This team isn’t good enough to challenge for the playoffs, even with some standout performances on defense, so there isn’t any great need to play Goff. If he sits on the bench for the entirety of his rookie season, they will be no worse off in 2017 if he is finally ready to take the field and is the player they believed him to be when they drafted him.

But at this point with the success of so many rookie QBs that were deemed worse pro prospects than Goff just months ago, and a QB ahead of him who is playing his way desperately to the bench, each week the Rams dig their heels in and keep Goff on the bench only makes them look worse.

Keenum has been poor over the past two games, and average at best this season despite a situation surrounding him that is not prohibitively poor. Unless putting Goff out there would irreparably harm his future development, it’s time for Goff to take the field. And if throwing him out there would do that harm to his future career, you have to raise serious questions about just what kind of QB he can ever become at this level.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-how-is-it-that-the-rams-still-arent-starting-jared-goff-at-qb/

*Stole these from MurkN and Jeremy Igo from the Carolinahuddle.com


Remmers(the guard) isn't very good but AD is just pure awesome and the best DT in the game! Put him on skates and then some!!

*Stole this gif from @SamMills51

As @DthOn2Legs said "My Lord!!! That shot of Donald looks like a great white attacking a sea lion." Spot on brother!!


Bradberry and Austin getting in to it!


Thank god BamBam was there to save the day!!!


Talk about threading the needle!! Was short of the 1st down mark thankfully.


Hey look, our o-line got blown up....yay......uke:


BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE!!! Imagine how many flags would've been thrown had that been Brady.


Why the fuck doesnt Fisher do this to the offense who actually didn't play good.


Sigh :banghead:

I'm not telling you to vote for, and let's not turn this into a big argument here, but just go VOTE.

This is not an option, this is your duty as an American!