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Photos from Aint's Game!

Just a few photos from the game I thought you would like:

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No stopping Watkins!1
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Strip Sack for the Mighty Quinn
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Quinn - Donald and Samson Ebukam all got sacks for us!!!
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No Catching-up to our WR's!!
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Goff , Is he saying Congrat's to Greg-the-Leg, or consoling him after missing that "Chip-Shot from 60+!!?!:LOL:
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Amazing Kupp 116 yards, Filled in well for Woods!:D
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Donald attacking all over the place!
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Tree had a fine day too!
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Brees ... Not so much!
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I wonder if Barwin Broke his arm on Brees!?!
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The Aints learned, One man can't Tackle Guuuurley!!

ESPN Talking up the Rams!/Week 12 Power Rankings

In the ESPN Power ranking they seem to be jumping on the Rams Band wagon, sort of...

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.. They have the Rams ranked 3rd behind #1 Philly and #2 The Cheatriots, but ahead of the Steelers at #4!
But the most interesting thing is they point out that the Rams are:
* NFL Best w/ 13.3 yards per reception!
And
* League Best w/ 6.7 yards after the Catch!!

" Folks we-be-Smokin' Hot!!(y):yess:

Sean McVay 11-27 presser

Coach discusses some of the game plan from Sunday. He goes over the Barwin injury and his confidence in Samson to fill in at the SAM spot. He also goes over the usage of Todd Gurley and why he did some of the things he did (hint it sounds like he doesn't fully trust Justin Davis).

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What Cardinals Fans Are Saying Before And After The Game(Part 2)

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The (Part 1) thread link where we humiliated them 33-0 in London last month is below.

http://www.ramsondemand.com/threads/what-cardinals-fans-are-saying-before-and-after-the-game.51698/

It appears that their victory over the Jaguars yesterday and a decent game by Blaine Gabbert has invigorated Arians and a few(a very few) of the Cardinals fan base.

They are currently 5-6, 3-2 at home, and 2-4 on the road. I expect some of their fans this week to hope for revenge and that the Rams don't injure their quarterback since there's a history of that.

Time for the Rams to crush their fading hopes once and for all on Sunday.
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http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/forum/threads/arians-“don’t-bury-us-yet-”.256293/

Arians - “Don’t bury us yet.”

vs Rams
vs Titans
@ Redskins
vs Giants
@ Seahawks

I see us at 7-9 to be honest, with 8-8 not being out of reach. No way we finish above .500, but I’d like to hear the opinions of others.
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They win 1 more!
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If they finish 8-8, that would be pretty impressive to me.
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Wins against Titans & Giants at home at losses to Rams, Redskins and Seahawks so it will be 7 & 9.
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Wins against Titans, Redskins, Giants
Losses against Rams, Seahawks
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I am going on a limb and say the Cards win the next 4 games but lose to Seattle. Finish 9-7 and have a record with them receiving a 15-19 1st rd draft pick where they cannot go for a QBOTF unless they make a deal and move up.
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Next game will tell us what we need to know about how this team will fare. If somehow this team can beat the Rams at home, watch out because this means Gabbert's progress is legit. Don't kid yourself, to hell with the stats, the Rams have the best defense and not the Jaguars and they have a healthy stud back and a actual functioning QB.

Especially in today's mediocre NFL, these are the winning streaks which can unseemly take place when you beat an opponent worth their metal. It rubs off on a team where if you can stay close, you start finding the confidence to learn how to win. I am not saying we could go far in the playoffs, I see the Eagles wiping their shoes on our door mat but you never know.

If we lose to the Rams, which is likely, then maybe we can win two more but it will be fun to watch because some of these new guys on the field are going to bring it because they want to be on a roster and you will have vets feeling the heat which is causing them to perform. You watch, if John Brown gets back on the field, that smurf will risk it all against Gargamel
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Right now they are literarily one game at a time.

What I really want to see is more of our younger players making contributions like we saw in the Jacksonville game. Gives me hope for the future.
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There has been a lot of bashing Arians, including myself. Most of it is deserved also. But, you have to at least give him some credit that they haven’t quit. Football is an emotional game & it’s sometimes real easy to mail seasons in. Let’s see what happens against the Rams. They beat our butts in London. Will Arians have them ready to compete next week? I say yes.
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This team will need to demonstrate more consistency in their level
of play before we can predict how they'll do in the next game let alone the rest of the season.
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saddest thing is,... I look at that schedule and see every game there as winnable....it all depends on what Cards team shows up.

we can beat the skins on the road and we always play well in seattle... and we have a shot in every home game... Rams are the toughest game left and its a division game...even though the hags are making a push too.

this could be another year like /..was it 2013?? when we went 10-6 and missed the playoffs?
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Great win, great game, and I am rooting for more wins and more great games in the future.

This team is not making the playoffs.
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I do not think the Cardinals beat the Rams, even on their best day.

If they do, then sure, run the table, go 10-6 and see what happens ? Why not?

......just do not think that is a possibility. This team has not been very consistent.

8-8 would be pretty damn good for this team, BTW. They have had A LOT of adversity, some self-inflicted, but many were not.
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I’ve been optimistic for most the season so why not continue lol.
Rams: trap game with Philly going to LA the week after: W :D
Titans: a lot like Jacksonville with a worse d: W :D
Redskins: we can win, but it’ll be tough on the east coast: L :(
Giants: they quit and try for a high pick: W:D
Seahawks: we always win there: W :D

9-7 and playoffs!!!!:band:

Too far fetched? I can see 7-9 or 8-8 as a realist with losses to the rams and skins for sure
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The Cards are in the NFC West, not the AFC West. Chargers could still win that hot mess after an 0-4 start.
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Exactly. Just shut up and get on with it, Bruce. Not buying what you're desperately trying to sell.
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https://www.revengeofthebirds.com/2...s-confidence-in-blaine-gabbert-moving-forward

Bruce Arians expresses confidence in Blaine Gabbert moving forward
The head coach is confident in the veteran quarterback.
by Seth Cox

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When the Arizona Cardinals signed Blaine Gabbert in the 2017 offseason, the first thing that came to mind was they were looking for a long term answer.

Of course, that long term answer I am talking about is the backup quarterback role. Taking over the job that Drew Stanton has held down for the last five seasons.

Through two starts, nothing has changed.

Gabbert has done a nice job of keeping the Arizona Cardinals in a position to win games. His defense faltered against the Texans. They rose to the occasion against the Jaguars.

That's what the key to being a great backup is. It is offering your team a chance to win.

Through four games the Cardinals have gotten that out of both backups and are 2-2.

Bruce Arians was asked about his level of comfort with Blaine Gabbert as the quarterback heading into 2018… His words seemed to say more than what he actually said:

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Arians expressed his confidence in Gabbert if the situation presented itself.

Arians always does a nice job of saying something without actually saying anything.

In fact, this is the standard line from Arians on the backup quarterback taking over:

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That is to say, Arians likes what he sees in Gabbert, but let's not mistake the play for a quarterback who is or is going to be the future starter in Arizona.

Blaine has looked like a competent, potential high end backup quarterback.

The type of guy you pay three years for $10 million and know you have a capable backup to Carson Palmer in 2018, or a nice bridge piece in 2018 or 2019.

It has been a good start to Gabbert's Cardinals career. One that should continue in 2017 and lead to a long term contract with the team. Just not as the starting quarterback.
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If you’re expecting anything more from your backup, you’re delusional (not saying you just in general)
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I think based off 2 games that Gabbert could be one of the leagues better backups but it would be a prediction as 2 games isn’t enough. He has more than enough bad games in his past to be a concern. We were all thinking late in the game when he had 7 straight incomplete passes that the real Gabbert was back.

After 5 games we can start talking with actual facts.
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You guys make it sound like NFL QBs come out of the womb
.. with "STARTER" or "BACKUP" stamped on their foreheads. It’s a very nebulous line except for a handful of proven vets This year of all years you should realize the designations can flip on a regular basis.

What Arians is saying is what I said at the beginning of the year. The Cards have the best 3 deep QB room in the league. Any one of them is capable of starting. As it sits, the job is Gabbert’s until someone takes it away from him. That could be in two weeks or it could be in ten years. He’s only signed until the end of the season, so they have to get him under contract before anything else.
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With one qualification:
Drew Stanton couldn’t start a fire with a gallon of gasoline and a book of giant matches.
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So far Blaine has the best passer rating, completion rate, and probably the most rushing yards of the three
Fwtw. He also has the best winning % at .500 Palmer and Stanton split an extra loss between them. But I never expected them to stick him straight into the lineup. I did say at one point that I could see Blaine playing more than any of the others this year. That’s still possible if he plays out the schedule, even if they don’t make the playoffs.
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Completion Percentage this year

  1. Palmer = 61.4
  2. Gabbert = 61.1
Touchdowns to Interception Ratio

  1. Palmer = 9 / 7 = 1.28
  2. Gabbert = 5 / 3 = 1.67
Pass Attempts Per Game

  1. Palmer = 38.1
  2. Gabbert = 36
Passing Yards Per Game

  1. Palmer = 282
  2. Gabbert = 249
Sacks Per Game

  1. Palmer = 3.1
  2. Gabbert = 1.5
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    Even yards per completion is within 0.5 yards of each other.
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https://www.revengeofthebirds.com/2017/11/27/16703834/arizona-cardinals-nfc-playoff-picture

Arizona Cardinals still in NFC Playoff hunt
Despite the down year, the Arizona Cardinals are still in a position to make the playoffs.
by Seth Cox

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The Arizona Cardinals were down and out last week.

A dejected team with a fan base that couldn't make sense of what happened the previous week.

That led to questions about everything, hell we'll look at that possibility tomorrow or Wednesday.

It seemed like this week would be the final nail in the coffin for the 2017 Arizona Cardinals.

That didn't matter to Bruce Arians and the Arizona Cardinals.

Now, after week 12 is over, the NFC has played all their games, the Arizona Cardinals are still, somehow miraculously in the playoff picture.

In fact, they sit at the 12 seed, but tied with the three teams in front of them at 5-6. Those teams include the Packers, Cowboys and Redskins.

While it is still a longshot the Arizona Cardinals make the playoffs this year, they're still in it, which sounds completely irrational when you look at the last several weeks.

NFC Playoff Standings:

  1. Philadelphia Eagles (10-1)
  2. Minnesota Vikings (9-2)
  3. Los Angeles Rams (8-3)
  4. New Orleans Saints (8-3)
  5. Carolina Panthers (8-3)
  6. Atlanta Falcons (7-4)
  7. Seattle Seahawks (7-4)
  8. Detroit Lions (6-5)
  9. Green Bay Packers (5-6)
  10. Dallas Cowboys (5-6)
  11. Washington Redskins (5-6)
  12. Arizona Cardinals (5-6)
Of course, tomorrow we have the fresh 2018 NFL Draft order, so let's enjoy the distant thought of the playoffs.
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Gotta go undefeated
Win them all out, giving us a 10-6 record and almost certain to make the playoffs…but if we lose (next week against the Rams, or week 17 against Seattle) a game, we are definitely done for.
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Come on
I’m as optimistic as the next guy but really? We are not going to make the playoffs. We’d have to win every game and that’s not going to happen. I doubt we win next week, the Rams are a whole lot better than the Jags.
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We will never make the playoffs. We will never beat the Rams or the Seahags. I can’t remember what other good teams we would have to beat?

We can’t even beat the Texans with Tom Savage as the QB. Who by the way was better than Bortles.
Actually I thought the Texans played better than the Jags.

To get back to making the playoffs…it just not going to happen.
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6-5 vs 5-6
If we had won the Houston Game and were sitting at 6-5, I would be more optimistic given we would have a cushion (i.e. we could lose to the Rams, etc.). Especially after the performance against the Jags (BA better understanding Gabbert, blah blah blah). However, our dumb ass coach decided to go for it at our own 38 instead of pinning the Texans (again) deep. His arrogance / stupidity has stolen my optimism.
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If we do make the playoffs and thats a big IF

DJ and Palmer won’t be back to play in the playoffs anyway. They are done for the season according to BA. They both have weeks of physical therapy.

I’d rather them not come back just to possibly get injured again if there not completely healed. We’re doing OK without them. Remember we have the Rams and Seahags left to play and that’s the 2 teams that caused most if not all of our injuries.

The Rams Defense Makes Los Angeles Truly Scary

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The Rams Defense Makes Los Angeles Truly Scary
While the offense often gets the attention, don’t sleep on Wade Phillips’s unit
BY DANNY KELLY

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If you jumped off the Rams bandwagon after their ugly 24-7 loss to the Vikings last week, now might be a good time to hop back onto it. L.A. snapped the Saints’ eight-game win streak Sunday with a 26-20 victory, a more-dominant-than-the-score-implies win that pushed the now-8-3 Rams back into the conversation as one of the NFC’s best teams.

Sophomore quarterback Jared Goff’s impressive 354-yard, two-touchdown performance against a good Saints defense should keep plenty of the focus and praise centered on the team’s resurgent offense—and that unit’s place in the limelight remains warranted.

First-year head coach and wunderkind playcaller Sean McVay has transformed the worst offense in the league into one of the best and turned Goff from an apparent bust into a legit pro passer. But the Rams are not f--king going 7-9 again this year because of more than just their offense.

L.A.’s quietly fielded one of the most balanced squads in the NFL, and under the direction of veteran defensive coordinator Wade Phillips—a hire that might be McVay’s most impressive coup altogether—the Rams’ talent-packed, playmaking defense has overcome a slow start to make a big jump forward of its own.

Phillips’s defense came into this week’s matchup with the streaking Saints ranked fifth in defensive DVOA, surrendering just 18.6 points per game (seventh) on the year. That group had made up for its middling run defense by being outstanding against the pass, allowing a 76.4 passer rating to opposing quarterbacks (fourth) while racking up 28 sacks (tied for 10th) and 12 interceptions (tied for fifth-most) against just 12 touchdown passes surrendered (tied for sixth-fewest).

But until Sunday, it was easy enough to write off much of that success as the result of a fortuitous schedule: L.A. had posted dominant yet caveat-heavy performances against subpar quarterbacks like Scott Tolzien, Tom Savage, Eli Manning, Carson Palmer, Drew Stanton, and Blake Bortles before faltering last week against Case Keenum and the Vikings.

The Rams needed an impressive performance against a top-tier passer to prove that those numbers were no fluke, and they got it Sunday, when they sacked Brees three times (a Saints’ season high) while holding the New Orleans offense to just three of 13 on third down.

Running back Alvin Kamara was just about the only bright spot for the Saints offense, as the rookie sensation forced nine missed tackles and racked up 188 combined rushing and receiving yards and two touchdowns on just 11 touches. He got so few looks because, after falling behind early, New Orleans leaned on its passing attack—and the Rams clamped down.

Brees’s final stat line (22 of 32 for 246 yards, with one touchdown and a 101.8 passer rating) might look respectable on paper, but Los Angeles stymied the future Hall of Famer for most of the game. Heading into the fourth quarter, Brees had passed for just 96 yards, and prior to New Orleans’ final offensive series—a six-play, 75-yard touchdown drive late in the game that cut L.A.’s 26-13 lead to single digits and made the ending a little more interesting—he went a pedestrian 16-of-26 for 171 yards.

The Rams’ relentless pass-rush unit consistently forced Brees off his spot and pressured him into ill-advised throws, while the team’s secondary blanketed receivers and broke up passes downfield. The box score could’ve been a whole lot uglier for the veteran signal-caller, too, had the Rams not dropped three catchable interceptions, including two in the fourth quarter alone.

Defensive tackle Aaron Donald has yet to receive the desired and well-deserved contract extension that precipitated his preseason holdout, but the three-time Pro Bowler remains the foundation upon which L.A.’s defense rests. Donald notched one sack, a pair of tackles for a loss, and a quarterback hit in the win; and while the fact he plays in the trenches hides it, he’s one of the best defensive players in the NFL.

Donald is currently Pro Football Focus’s top-graded interior player, with 6.0 sacks and three forced fumbles on the year, and while that sack total doesn’t jump out, he’s racked up an incredible 62 total pressures so far, which outpaces all other defensive players—a feat virtually unheard of for an interior defensive lineman not named J.J. Watt. He’s simply unblockable.

But Donald can’t do it all alone, and the Rams have gotten plenty of production from his linemates, too. Phillips has utilized a heavy rotation of linemen up front: Robert Quinn (who grabbed one sack Sunday to push his season total to 3.5), Matt Longacre (4.0 sacks), Michael Brockers (3.0 sacks), and free agent pickup Connor Barwin (4.0 sacks) make opposing quarterbacks’ lives a living hell.

Coming into this week, the Rams had gotten pressure on 33.1 percent of all opponent dropbacks, per Football Outsiders, eighth-best in the league and a rate that’s bound to go up after the win over the Saints.

L.A.’s gotten quality play at every level. Top cornerback Trumaine Johnson has yet to give up a touchdown and has notched two picks on 66 coverage targets, per Pro Football Focus, surrendering a passer rating of just 74.2 to opposing quarterbacks (22nd).

Veteran linebacker Mark Barron is a difference-maker over the middle of the field, where he’s racked up 77 tackles, a sack, three interceptions, and four pass breakups, and Alec Ogletree’s knack for big plays recently earned him a four-year, $42 million extension with the team, a vote of confidence in his ability as the defensive signal-caller in Phillips’s new scheme.

You don’t hear all that much about the Rams’ overhaul this year from a 4-3 to Phillips’s nominal 3-4 because Phillips and his staff have done an outstanding job of integrating a cadre of new players into the scheme while finding new spots for existing players to thrive. The team’s gotten solid play out of its new-look safety tandem of Lamarcus Joyner (who previously played slot corner) and John Johnson (a rookie third-round pick).

At corner, free-agent pickup Kayvon Webster (previously of the Broncos) has played well, with 33 tackles and six pass breakups on the year, and though he missed Sunday’s game, slot defender Nickell Robey-Coleman (formerly with the Bills, and a player I pegged as one of the top bargains in free agency over the summer) has been reliable, with two picks and zero touchdowns allowed on 35 targets in coverage, where he’s held opposing quarterbacks to a 57.7 passer rating (ninth-best).

Phillips came to L.A. with a reputation for crafting his scheme around his players’ strengths, and because of his keen eye for talent and adaptability as a play-caller, the Rams (who fielded a solid defensive unit last season) have not only picked up his defense with little trouble, they’ve actually gotten better.

McVay’s offense (featuring Goff, Todd Gurley, Cooper Kupp, Robert Woods, and Sammy Watkins) is likely to continue to headline the Rams’ surprising metamorphosis into an NFC power, but L.A. wouldn’t be sitting atop the NFC West right now if it weren’t for the team’s underappreciated improvement on defense, too.

Over the last seven games, the Rams have given up just 14.4 points on average—and L.A.’s going to need plenty more of that type of stingy defensive play down the stretch, a brutal late-season slate that features the Cardinals, Eagles, Seahawks, and Titans.

In an era of flawed, unbalanced, and one-dimensional contenders, the Rams stand out: With an explosive offense that can score from anywhere on the field, a top-tier special teams group featuring one of the league’s best punters and a kicker that somehow lives up to the nickname “Legatron,” plus a stout, deep defensive unit, they’re one of a select few teams right now that have ways to beat you in all three phases.

Which would you rather have? Iggles or Hawks win?

I have grown to hate the Eagles, due in large part to on-air Eagle blowhards. I want them to lose every game because it might help us with playoff seed position, and....because I want Eagles fans to cry so that my trolling of them is more effective.

We all hate the Hawks for obvious reasons. We have a better team this year, but RW is the Wild Card. Dude will not stay still so Quinn and Donald can destroy him in games. IF the Rams beat the Cards and the Iggles show they can beat a winning team (only one win against a winner this year) vs the Hawks, the Rams are up two games. after next Sunday.

We really can't lose in a way, as long as the Rams take care of the Cards.

Game Thoughts

After thoroughly enjoying the condensed game, here's my uneducated fanboy thoughts on this game, in the spirit of mfranke who I miss a lot:

Great game. Great game. What a battle between two evenly matched teams. Folks who bought tix got their money's worth today from a 12-round slugfest.
Kudos:
- GURLEY. What a beast. Churning through tackles, catching out of the backfield.... our RB1 folks. 4.35 yds / carry, 74 yds on ground, 54 in air. (Kamarra is no slouch either, he's beasting too, unfortunately for us.) We are definitely missing Malcom Brown, I think TG really needed a breather on a few possessions to keep his legs fresh - I thought I perceived a bit of lag towards the end on some plays.
- GOFF. The "Golden Armed Assassin" struck over & over. Our franchise QB & future perennial pro-bowler. The TD throw to Reynolds was a Barrett .50 bullet for 6. His footwork is unworldly, so many great throws in so many challenging situations against a D that was constantly bringing pressure. Took good advantage of the raw Vacarro several times. Kid can make any throw, the sideline throw to Kupp running away from pressure was nails. 28 of 43 for 354 yds 2 TD's / 1 fluke INT. I didn't see one pass that was interceptable.
- WATKINS. 1 TD, 4 of 9 for 82+PI yds, and a game-clinching catch of an on-sides kick. He showed up today. Picked up a critical PI call, so he was like 5 of 9. His INT bobble would've been an amazing catch, shows his concentration, but it did give up a possession. Fluke play. The EZ fade pass to SW was a very good play by the DB.
- KUPP. This kid just keeps amazing me. Almost always has 5yds of separation every time he gets a ball. No drops. 8 of 11 for 116 yds. But don't quit your day job - that pass attempt was brutal.
- REYNOLDS. Comes in for Woods & gets us 4 of 6 for 37+PI yds & a TD. Drew 1 PI call to boot IIRC so it's like 5 of 6. There was a pass to Reynolds in the EZ that I think JR just didn't turn around on; he might've high-pointed it if he did, & which he's terrific at.
- OUR D. What can you say when you hold one of the best offenses in the league to 20 points? when the opposing OL is constantly mugging you? the last TD to Kamarra should've been called back for holding against our DE. The goal line stand to hold them to 3pts was terrific, & Webster's take-down of Thomas was text book. Barron made a great play on that stand too. Good to see Quinn show up & remind Brees who he's dealing with - I think that early strip-sack might've rattled Drew a bit - after that, a lot of their plays were quick throws.
- TE's. Worth a mention, how Higbeast battled for yards on that long pass. 3 targets, 3 rec.'s. Good to see our TE's get involved. Everett showed up on his screen play. The fade to SW: I might've liked to see Everett there & see how he plays a fade. Next year he will be a beast.
- OUR OL. Held up well against an underrated Saints D. Allowed Cam Jordan to make a few plays but otherwise they played admirably. Opened nice lanes for TG, and gave Goff all day on that Reynolds TD pass against a 3 man rush.
- ST's. GZ is so automatic it's not funny. Hekker with 2-3 punts inside the 20. The 63 yarder was on target but just needed a bit more oomph. Ginn caught it but ran ob to end the half.

Issues:
- Get our DB's on the jugs!! 4-5 INT's we missed today. TruJo's was the worst.
- Clean up the flags. The helmet-to-helmet on Fleener was bad. That's a career-ender kind of hit. Not good, could've gotten him ejected & he would've deserved it. Whit with a rare holding call. I think we had a TD called back for holding as well.
- AUSTIN. 5/17 rushing, 3/-1 in air. I think he had a couple of positive plays, otherwise, he's pretty much an $8mil/yr decoy. He could do some damage, but the two runs up the gut early in the game were pointless. Ran out of bounds on one play that if he would've cut inside he could've taken it to the house. Defender was being blocked too.
- ST's. Almost every KO & PR in the 2nd half was flagged on our team. Needs to be cleaned up. No pressure on the punter this game - c'mon man!!!

Zebras:
- The refs missed some obvious fouls. A spearing by Jordan on Goff, who led with his helmet; the last Kamarra TD, our DE was getting outright mugged. How do refs keep missing holding on our D??? I think our D needs to practice "flopping" when they're held - if that will even help their plight. The refs did catch a few holding calls, and a good call on chop blocking AD99 & good PI calls. The non-PI call on our DB when the Saints WR fell down was a good non-PI call - the WR had no chance & our DB was making a play on it. Overall they called a good game though. When the refs don't get their names called, they had a good day.

Crowd / Stadium:
Wow, butts were back in seat en masse. If the Rams keep rolling, could they fill that place to capacity? I know Stan has blocked off a lot of seats to help logistics, but if USC can handle that many people, why can't the Rams staff figure it out? With better logistics & planning this stadium would be on fire. More exits? sidewalks? trams / busses to off-site parking? Stan could take a few pointers from events like the Edinburgh Tattoo - even temporary structures would go a long way towards extending the stadium ingress/egress capacity & other support facilities. Otherwise, the old Colliseum feels more & more like home for the Rams with every game they play there.
One issue that I see every game in LA: the turf looks like crap before they even take the first snap. USC roughs it up every Saturday. I saw several players slip, including Austin & Saints' Thomas. Can't wait until Saturday NFL football... but then there's the Rose Bowl... sigh. Anyone know if the Rose Bowl is a mid-week game??

Play Calling:
I actually thought that McVay called a pretty good game. the drive in the 4th to eat up the clock was a dagger to the Saints. But we need to do something about Austin. It's just not working out for him, or else opposing D's just aren't fooled anymore. But the Everett screen play was nice, & Sammy's 1st TD catch was a great call. And it's nice to see our WR's constantly being schemed open vs. relying on their talents alone to make plays. The D made a lot of nice plays, and got lots of pressure from the front 5 with not much blitzing.

Up Next:
Cards. Can't wait for TG to punch Honey Badger in the mouth on a wheel route. All's I'm gonna say about that game.
Playoffs? Playoffs??? you betcha. A few more wins may be all it takes to get there. If we beat the Shewalks in their house we can punch our ticket, even with an L to the Iggles. @TEN will be a pivotal game. I wanna see our QB out-class Mariota & draw wandering STL Rams fans back into the fold.
Super Bowl? why not?? yes climbing Mt. Wentz will be a tough challenge; but if our D keeps on fire, I think we can get there - I like our D against the Iggles' O, as Wentz is just not Goff-like in his accuracy (see what i did there) & could get rattled into making bad throws. We'll find out soon enough!! There's a lot of other NFC teams that are pretty scary at the moment, including the Saints, Falcons, Panthers, & Vikes, so there's a really tough road left to get there.
But I'll just throw this out there: LA could easily be in the SB - just not the Rams. The Bolts are heating up & with 5 very winnable games left should win the AFCW over KC & could very well finish at 10-6. They played the Patties pretty tough early in their season. If Spanos gets a SB appearance before we do, I will throw up in my coffee mug & dry-heave every time I see them on TV in SB week.

Such a joy to watch this young team, & exciting to think that they're getting better with every game. I stopped watching them halfway through last season. But they're oozing confidence & competence in virtually every area now. Cheers!

~Jonram99

Going to Arizona

This game is huge. Maybe bigger then the Saints game. Blaine Gabbert is better then Carson Palmer IMO. I talked him up in the beginning of the year and said he should start. A mobile QB with good pocket movement. We had a hell of a time stopping him last year vs the 49ers. He will take his shots deep and isn’t afraid to scramble.

I won’t underestimate this team. I hate Bruce Arians and I want to sweep him under the rug and out of the league for good. 33-0 was fine but 50-0 is better. We seem to play well in Arizona. So McVay better have this team ready and I know he will.

The Cardinals defense seems to have no quit. And I’m sure they want revenge from last game. I would feel better if we had Woods back. So Watkins and Kupp will need another big game. We HAVE to get Gurley going on the ground. Just spit ballin here, but we need this game in a big way.

Kupp drops, Goff negative yardage

Below, some misleading analysis from the Rams Saints game. I did not use blue font because, technically speaking, these points are true.

--Kupp had two catches bounce off his hands and fall incomplete.

--Whenever Kupp made a play, many in the Coliseum crowd made a loud noise that sounded like “Booooooo.”

--Goff had three carries for minus 3 yards. On these three plays, his body language was terrible, as if he were just giving up.


--After AD’s sack in the first quarter, I distinctly heard the Coliseum announcer firing up the crowd by yelling, “TYYYRRUNNNNN WAAAAAALKERRRR!!” Perhaps Tyrun made a nice effort on the sidelines.

--TA had three catches in this game-- check out the stat sheet! With eight total touches, TA was clearly more “involved” in this game. As in, “I’ve recently become involved with a married woman with gonorrhea.”

--Zuerlein’s FG percentage went down, and one of his attempts fell far short.

--Hatfield was active and I did not hear his name called ONCE. Often, when you do not hear a player’s name called, it means they had a good game.

--And finally: Mike Thomas had a big impact on this game.

The ingenious strategy that allows Sean McVay to be an actual coach on the field

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The ingenious strategy that allows Sean McVay to be an actual coach on the field
By: Steven Ruiz

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The most amazing development in the Rams’ historic offensive turnaround has been the evolution of Jared Goff. The second-year pro, whom many wrote off after a tough rookie season, not only looks like a different guy in the pocket, but he’s also taken command of the offense before the snap after not being very active in the pre-snap phase last season.

Here’s what Tony Romo had to say about Goff during the broadcast of the Rams-Saints game…

“Goff is doing a ton at the line of scrimmage. More than anybody I’ve seen in their second year in a long time — probably since Peyton Manning.”

Did Goff really transform into Peyton Manning over the offseason? Of course not. It’s Sean McVay who’s calling the shots before the snap. Credit goes to the Washington Post’s Mark Bullock for noticing this strategy during a “mic’d up” segment featuring Goff.

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McVay gets the Rams lined up quickly, leaving him enough time to assess the defense and call an audible (if necessary) before the play clock hits the 15-second mark. That’s when the headset communication between the coach and quarterback cuts off.

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We saw a couple of examples of McVay working his pre-snap magic from the sideline against the Saints. Notice how McVay is still making calls with Goff at the line of scrimmage…

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Goff relays McVay’s call to his teammates, and Todd Gurley finds himself wide open over the middle thanks to a great check by the coach.

McVay does it again on the next drive. This time for a touchdown…

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You can see McVay making his initial call, eyeing the defense for a bit then calling in the audible. Goff makes the change at the line before throwing a touchdown pass.

Old NFL coaches, like Bruce Arians for instance, complain that college coaches are doing all the work for quarterbacks when it comes to play-calling, leaving them ill-prepared when they get to the NFL.

“Seeing the guys coming out of the systems now where the coach holds a card up, the players line up, he kicks his foot and they play football,” Arians said, via Pro Football Talk. “The hardest thing for them is to get into a huddle and call a play.

They’re stuttering, they’re stammering, the guys around them don’t believe in them. That’s that leadership thing. That’s the hardest thing for these young quarterbacks who play in these systems…they have to learn how to play quarterback at this level and sometimes that’s overwhelming.”


God forbid NFL coaches actually try to make a quarterback’s job easier. Instead of complaining about the college set-up, the Rams’ 31-year-old head coach found a way to bring it to the NFL and make life for his quarterback so much easier. That’s what good coaches do.

And McVay’s team is scoring more than 30 points a game with this strategy. It will only be a matter of time before other coaches follow suit.

Found Keys

Having watched, read, and listened to hours of analysis on the Ram/Saints game, there are factors I believe have been lost in the shuffle. Here are mine...

Havenstein v Jordan. Two weeks ago, Clowney dominated Big Rob and McVay was slow to adjust. Even on the pivotal bomb to Woods, Rob had to get away with holding to prevent a strip/sack/safety or defensive TD. Enter Cam Jordan who is being snubbed for the Pro Bowl and needs to make a statement. Personally, I don’t want to see that one on one matchup at all...even though I appreciate Hav’s very good play this year.

UM...nailed it. Then again, he beat Whitworth too. Jordan is like Donald, Clowney, Watt, and Campbell...you single them and your play is likely wrecked.

Listen to Kromer. Sean McVay made his bones around a scheme that has evolved from the Shanahan zone running with WCO passing concepts. Wisely, McVay hired an accomplished power running line coach to integrate variety to the attack. It would seem the marriage is going well but here’s to hoping Kromer’s influence takes a bigger role. If New Orleans has to adjust their defense to account for power running (with help from the secondary) their second string corners will be exposed big time and our explosive plays will come in bunches.

I was sooooo wrong. McVay attacked their corners to get the lead and stuck with mostly zone blocking and misdirection in the second half. Hey, they won so Sean was right. Still, I want to see more power running plays. Maybe he’s saving it for another game.

Where’s Brockers? The force of the Saints running game is up the gut where Westbrooks is too light to hold up and Ogletree isn’t the thumper to limit the damage and Barron isn’t cast to be much help either. I believe THIS WEEK, Brockers needs to man the middle on early downs and switch to his 5 tech DE on obvious passing downs. If not, Max zinger will make me return to the days when I screamed for the Rams to acquire either Alex Mack or Rodney Hudson when they came available. (That’s not to say I’m unhappy w Sully).

Yeah, it was a traditional set on the Kamara long run...but did anyone else notice both Donald and Brockers rotate to the nose? More work by Fox and very few snaps by Westbrooks. Wade took my suggestion and expanded it way beyond my thinking. Kudos


The Reynolds/Thomas debate starts here once again. With Woods out and others getting his game reps ... this is the game where we see McVay’s true evaluation of these guys. All we really need to do is count reps and targets (along with types of routes run). My belief? I think he trusts neither very much so Tavon, Pharoh, and Everett will see the action we’ve been hoping from these two. Personally, I want to see what they can do.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner...Reynolds is McVay’s choice over Thomas and even the other options to fill Woods’ shoes.

Finally, does McVay keep Goff in safe mode and stay the course (limit turnovers at all costs) or do we start to see him take more chances as he opens the offense a bit? If it’s a Goff/Brees shootout, does Jared get the green light to fire at will? I kinda wanna see that happen (but only if we win).

Wish granted. Goff was given the green light and he out gunned Brees

Peter King: MMQB - 11/27/17

These are excerpts. To read the whole article click the link below.

I bet PK sat around in his underwear last night thinking to himself. "I know there are 31 other NFL teams to write about but how can I make this week's MMQB center around Tom Brady and the Patriots AGAIN?" He succeeded. :cool:
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The Race Is On to Catch the Patriots and a Word About the Greg Schiano-Tennessee Mess
Ranking the teams with the best chance to dethrone New England in the postseason, including the Eagles, Steelers, Vikings, Rams, Saints and more
By Peter King

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Sunday night, before the Steelers had a surprisingly difficult time dispatching the Packers 31-28, Pittsburgh coach Mike Tomlin sat for an interview with his former mentor and NBC “Football Night in America” analyst Tony Dungy. Naturally, Dungy was curious how Tomlin approached the looming mega-game with defending Super Bowl champion New England.

The game is in three weeks. Tomlin taped the interview with Dungy on Friday, with three game days standing between the Steelers and the Patriots, the two best teams in the AFC, tied with two losses atop the division.

Tomlin said he did not fear addressing the elephant in the room, the great white whale known as the Patriots. The Patriots-Steelers game on Dec. 17 in Pittsburgh, he said, “is probably gonna be part one. That’s gonna be a big game. But probably, if we both do what we’re supposed to do, the second one is really gonna be big. And what happens in the first is gonna set up the second one … is gonna determine the location of the second one.”

Most coaches laser-focus on the next game. But the Patriots loom so large over this league that it’s tough to stick to that. In the 18-season Belichick-Brady Era, the Patriots have won five Super Bowls and, with a 35-17 rout of Miami on Sunday, clinched an NFL-record 17th straight winning season. Even though 9-2 New England doesn’t have the best record in football, it still feels as if the 10-1 Eagles, and everyone else, are chasing the Patriots.

That’s where we are now: Who’s good enough to catch the Patriots, and who’s good enough to get on a roll to beat the Patriots? With five weeks left in the regular season, New England has won seven straight (by an average of 14.9 points). Other teams are hotter statistically. Philadelphia’s won nine straight, the past three by 28 points each. But the main character on the Eagles, Carson Wentz, and the leading figures on most other contenders won’t have anywhere near the playoff pedigree of the Patriots.

A football season is a living thing. Two months ago the Chiefs were 4-0 and had routed the Patriots and beaten the Eagles. But they’ve fallen way off. Newbies have taken their place. In order, the teams with the best chance to take New England down in the 10 weeks between now and Super Bowl 52:

1. Philadelphia (10-1). Strange season for the Eagles. Nine of their wins have come over teams with current losing records, a five-point win over Carolina the lone exception. But the Eagles’ precocious quarterback is reminiscent of a young Tom Brady. Nothing fazes Carson Wentz, the North Dakotan fond of saying, “It’s just football,” as the games get bigger and the stakes higher.

What gives the Eagles the best chance, I think, is their formidable defensive front, surrendering just 3.5 yards per rush and holding quarterbacks to a league-low 73.9 passer rating. Fletcher Cox and Brandon Graham, per Pro Football Focus, average 7.7 quarterback disruptions (sacks, hits and hurries) between them, and watching Philly play, that seems a conservative estimate. I wonder how New England would block them in a potential Super Bowl matchup.

2. Pittsburgh (9-2). The Steelers’ inability to put away mortal teams (5-, 3- and 3-point wins over the Lions, Colts and Rodgers-less Packers, respectively) is bothersome. But Ben Roethlisberger has been playing big games almost as long as Tom Brady. And Pittsburgh’s game-breaking trio of receivers (Antonio Brown, JuJu Smith-Schuster and Martavis Bryant) is gaining 191 yards a week, on average.

In a contract year, Le’Veon Bell has a 91-yard lead in the race for the rushing title, and he could gash the lone major New England weakness; the Pats are last in rush defense, giving up 4.9 yards per rush. Cam Heyward and young-gun pass-rushers Bud Dupree and T.J. Watt will be a speedy load for the Patriots to keep off Brady, who gets hit too much.

3. Minnesota (9-2). The unpredictable team. Case Keenum has won seven in a row at the helm of the Vikings, but he’s never sniffed the playoffs in his career. The way he’s mowing down the opposition, maybe that doesn’t matter. His weapons are not famous, but Adam Thielen, Kyle Rudolph and Stefon Diggs keep beating people.

Another tough defensive front, with Everson Griffen and Danielle Hunter (18 sacks combined) will be a chore for the Patriots’ edge protectors. Remember how Brady was abused in the Super Bowl, when Dwight Freeney (outside) and Grady Jarrett (inside) combined for 13 hits and sacks? The Vikings can do that to a quarterback.

4. Los Angeles Rams (8-3). Speaking of pressure teams, this is one that could really give the Patriots issues. Aaron Donald is an equal-opportunity destroyer. I watched most of the Rams-Saints game Sunday, and this Jared Goff gets better every week—seriously. You’ve heard of “throwing receivers open?” It’s a quarterback throwing to an open area, leading a receiver more than he normally would. It’s a sign the quarterback is mastering the offense and has the confidence to make a throw a little out of the box.

Goff did that on his second-quarter TD throw to rookie Josh Reynolds, motioning for him to go further across the edge of the end zone—which Reynolds did—and Goff lasered a strike to him. The Rams buried a bad loss at Minnesota last week pretty quickly, which you’ve got to do when games matter so much now.

“We weren’t going to let Minnesota beat us twice,” defensive leader Alec Ogletree told me from Los Angeles on Sunday night. Huh? “They beat us last week, and we weren’t going to let it hang with us—it was over. Gotta move on.” They did. The Rams put up 415 yards on a good defense, and knocked Drew Brees around most of the day.

T-5. New Orleans (8-3), Carolina (8-3), Atlanta (7-4). They’re almost the same entry, with how explosive each can be on offense and with young impact players on defense ... and with their tough, division-oriented schedules. Check the slate over the final five weeks:

• Saints: Carolina, Atlanta, the Jets, Atlanta, Tampa Bay.

• Panthers: New Orleans, Minnesota, Green Bay (likely with Aaron Rodgers back), Tampa Bay, Atlanta.

• Falcons: Minnesota, New Orleans, Tampa Bay, New Orleans, Carolina..

In other words, the schedule could knock out any of the three teams. New Orleans has an edge over both foes, with a 2-0 division record, and with the Jets and Bucs on the schedule might have the best chance to win the division and at least one home playoff game. Saints back Alvin Kamara has become the best rookie offensive weapon in the league, and Carolina’s Christian McCaffrey is not far behind him.

Those two have helped the Saints and Panthers, respectively, catch up to Atlanta’s backfield versatility and production. All three quarterbacks have deep-into-the-playoffs experience; Drew Brees, Cam Newton and Matt Ryan have all played in Super Bowls. I’ll give the Saints the edge to win the division and have the slightly easier playoff path—I like their young secondary best. It’s not one that would be intimidated by Brady.

The rest. The Los Angeles Chargers (5-6), the shockers of this group, don’t have much margin for error, but they’re the third-best team in the AFC right now, with a great set of bookend rushers in Melvin Ingram and Joey Bosa and the hot quarterback, Philip Rivers, who has played in big games before. He just hasn’t won the biggest …

Jacksonville (7-4) could fluster Brady with a deep pass-rush, but it’s hard to imagine Blake Bortles going throw-for-throw with Brady, in Foxboro …

Can Seattle (7-4) hang on for dear life? There’s little doubt Russell Wilson and Doug Baldwin and that D, diminished though it is, could play big in January. I just can’t see Seattle winning three road games, if it’s a wild-card team, against power NFC teams like the Eagles, to reach another Super Bowl, and a possible rematch of Super 49.

It’s the Patriots against, mostly, the young and the restless. Should be a fun, and unpredictable, final five weeks of the regular season.

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Philip Rivers: The Game of His Life

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I cannot allow this weekend of football to go by without going all gee-whiz on what one of the forgotten men of football, Philip Rivers, did against the Cowboys. Rivers played the best game of his professional life on Thursday.

I just didn’t see it coming. Then again, there’s something fitting, something almost a little too storybook, about what has happened this year to the three franchise quarterbacks from the top of the 2004 draft. Ben Roethlisberger (picked 11th in 2004), with two Super Bowl wins on his résumé, was going to pilot the most explosive offense in football in Pittsburgh.

Eli Manning (picked first), with two Super Bowl wins on his résumé, was going to follow up on his 11-win season in 2016 and contend for a Super Bowl. Maybe it’d be Roethlisberger versus Manning in Super Bowl 52 this February.

Rivers (picked fourth) is always the third quarterback in the class. No Super Bowl wins. No Super Bowl appearances. He did lead the league in something in 2016: interceptions. This year the Chargers, coming off four- and five-win seasons, moved to the bandbox ballpark in Carson, Calif., south of downtown L.A., waiting for the stadium they’d share with the Rams to be completed.

Rivers, turning 36 this season, would be keeping the seat warm for the next quarterback. Maybe Sam Darnold. Maybe Josh Rosen. L.A. guys for an L.A. team.

But here we are, 12 weeks into 2017, and Rivers, with a late surge, is the best of the famous trio this season. The aw-shucks guy from Decatur, Ala., is first among those three in passer rating (95.2) and yards per attempt (7.60), and tied with Roethlisberger in yards (2,948) and TD passes (20).

This week Rivers played his 201st NFL game. I contend the 28-6 victory over Dallas was the best game he’s played in the NFL. Statistically, there’s no question it was. Rivers had never played a game with at least a 135 rating, with 10 yards per attempt, at least 325 yards passing and a completion percentage of 75 or better.

He blew those marks out of the water against Dallas: 149.1 rating, 13.2 yards per attempt, 434 yards passing, 81.8 percent completions. I covered his most meaningful NFL game 10 seasons ago, when he outdueled Peyton Manning in Indianapolis in the playoffs. But this game was better, I thought, because of the number of tight-window, downfield throws.

Add three touchdown passes and zero picks against Dallas, and those are all-time numbers for any quarterback in any game … never mind one that the Chargers had to have to keep their ridiculously improbable AFC West title hopes alive. They were four games out after four weeks, but now, at 5-6, they’re one back of Kansas City with five games to play—and 0-11 Cleveland coming to Los Angeles this week.

“You mention that might be the best game of his career,” Chargers offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt mused Saturday. “And think of this: He’s 27 of 33, with two throwaways, with all the difficult passes he completed. And playing on Thanksgiving for the first time, which was a big deal for him. Being in it, being there, I can tell you this was a special game, a really big game. Like a playoff game.”

What impressed me so much was the placement of the throws. Rivers always played with the confidence of Unitas, even when the result didn’t match that greatness. But throw after throw, slung in his sidearm or three-quarters delivery, was on point. It helped that he got some hugely athletic catches-and-runs from the monstrously talented Keenan Allen against the Cowboys. Rivers needed Allen. But Rivers did so much on his own.

My favorite throw came late in the third quarter, the Chargers nursing a 9-0 lead at the Dallas 27. Rivers’ tall and green undrafted third-year guy from Western Oregon, Tyrell Williams, got press coverage at the line. Williams knew on this play-call, if he got tight bump coverage at the line, the route would convert to a go. He also knew he’d be Rivers’ first read on the play. Williams read it right.

Rivers, from the Dallas 35, let it fly to the right pylon—but not just to meet Williams there. The ball was thrown so the 6'4" Williams could use his five-inch height edge on Dallas’s Anthony Brown. It was a sky ball, thrown on a line but so Williams would have to jump for it. At the 2-yard line, with Brown all over him, Williams leaped for the ball and snagged it over Brown’s head. Just a beautiful throw.

Whisenhunt coached Roethlisberger early in his career, and then Kurt Warner late in his career. “It’s eerie,” said Whisenhunt. “But this game reminds me of that playoff game Kurt played against the Packers [Warner was 29 of 33 in a 51-45 playoff win in the ’09 season] … the accuracy of their throws, how they attacked the defense, how they made their checks. They are just in an elite league doing that.”

I saw Rivers in training camp, and he was the good Chargers soldier, saying all the right things about a move from San Diego to Los Angeles that he hated. “Joe Optimist,” I called him. I said that to Whisenhunt on Saturday. “He is Joe Optimist,” Whisenhunt said, “and he’d been that way since the summer.

A lot of guys can be that way, but they can’t all deliver like Philip has. We lost early, but he believes in our scheme, and he knew it was a matter of time before we played well. I believe his optimism is the light that’s carried us through.”

The Chargers are 5-2 since Oct. 2, and four of their final five games come against teams currently with losing records. Think of this, if the Chargers win the AFC West and get the fourth seed in the AFC: They win a wild-card game, and then go to the top seed in the divisional round.

Maybe Rivers versus Roethlisberger, paying homage to the ’04 draft; maybe Rivers versus Tom Brady (with an oppressive pass rush helping in both cases). Suddenly, the AFC playoffs don’t seem so boring.

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The Award Section: Alvin Kamara, Brett Hundley Shine in Losses; Alex Smith’s Freefall Continues

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OFFENSIVE PLAYERS OF THE WEEK

Alvin Kamara, running back, New Orleans. You’re telling me there were 66 players in the college draft this year better than Kamara? This man is a phenom. In the loss to the Rams, Kamara had 11 touches for 188 yards, with a touchdown run of 74 yards and a touchdown reception of 33 yards. I know the Saints lost this game. But they will be a load to stop on offense by anyone the rest of this year, and assuming they get their secondary healthy and Marshon Lattimore back, they’re going to be dangerous in January.

Brett Hundley, quarterback, Green Bay. Well now. Hundley had been a disappointment, mostly, since replacing the injured Aaron Rodgers, with two touchdown passes in five outings. On Sunday night, against one of the best defenses in football, Hundley had three touchdown throws in three quarters. In a game he had no business being competitive, Hundley was 17 of 26 for 245 yards with no interceptions and a 134.3 passer rating. A brilliant game for a player keeping the seat warm, though it was very hard to tell that Rodgers wasn’t the Packers QB Sunday night.

Julio Jones, wide receiver, Atlanta. For the third time in his extraordinary young career, Jones had a 250-yard receiving game (12 catches, 253 yards, two TDs), in Atlanta's victory over Tampa Bay. It reinforced the fact that if the All-Pro receivers on the 2017 team are not Jones and Antonio Brown something is very wrong with the voters.

Philip Rivers, quarterback, Los Angeles Chargers. I argue elsewhere that Thursday’s performance in the 28-6 must-win over Dallas was the greatest game of Rivers’ NFL career, with his eighth-sharpest game for accuracy, his third-most passing yards, and his fourth-best yards-per-attempt. He was feeling it afterward. “It’s moments and games like this where I go, ‘This is what I dreamed of as a kid,’” Rivers told Dan Woike of the Los Angeles Times.

DEFENSIVE PLAYERS OF THE WEEK

Ryan Kerrigan, outside linebacker, Redskins. Two sacks and, per Pro Football Focus, four hurries of Eli Manning in a game that exposed the Giants’ protection issues and depth. Kerrigan is such a dangerous force in nearly every game he plays.

Bobby Wagner, middle linebacker, Seattle. His acrobatic interception early in the second quarter at San Francisco set up the first points of the day, a two-yard Russell Wilson run over the left side of the line, and the Seahawks never trailed. With a depleted secondary, the Seahawks need the front seven to be dominant. Wagner keyed it Sunday with eight tackles (two for losses), two quarterback hits and a pass broken up as Seattle advanced to 7-4.

SPECIAL TEAMS PLAYERS OF THE WEEK

Phil Dawson, kicker, Arizona. His 57-yard field goal with 11 seconds left beat Jacksonville 27-24, and from the look of the kick, it could have been a 65-yarder. Great day all around for Dawson, who hit 34-, 42- and 48-yard field goals as well in the upset win.

Stephen Hauschka, kicker, Buffalo. In cacophonous Arrowhead, Hauschka kicked a 34-yard field goal to put Buffalo up 10-0, a 56-yarder (also could have been good from 65) to put Buffalo up 13-3, and a 49-yarder to make the final score 16-10. After missing six extra points and four field goals last year and losing the job in Seattle, Hauschka is 23-of-23 in PATs and 21-of-24 in field goals. He’s been huge in a year when 6-5 Buffalo’s margin for error is quite small. Hauschka, by the way, has made 14 of his last 15 field-goal tries of 50 yards or longer.

Chris Boswell, kicker, Pittsburgh. Very nearly the goat because of a missed early PAT, Boswell hit a 53-yard field goal at wind-swept Heinz Field, tying for the longest kick in the 17-year history of the stadium, to give the Steelers a 31-28 win as the clock hit :00 on the last game of a compelling Sunday.

Tress Way, punter, Redskins. Seven punts for just a 44.0-yard average against the Giants, but this eyesore of a football game was won by field position. Way was the biggest factor in that. His seven punts made the Giants start drives at their 20, 30, 28, 3, 15, 6 and 15. Those seven drives netted three New York points.

COACH OF THE WEEK

Sean McDermott, head coach, Buffalo. He got grilled, with justification, for starting Nathan Peterman in his five-pick meltdown at the Chargers last week. But McDermott realized he had to go back to Tyrod Taylor as his starter instead of being bull-headed and sticking with the unprepared Peterman. Against his coaching mentor, Andy Reid, on the road in a game the Bills needed to win to have any semblance of playoff hopes, McDermott and the Bills played a mostly mistake-free game in one of the toughest places in the league to win.

Time will tell if McDermott’s “trust the process” slogan will end up meaning the players actually trust what this new administration is selling. But after the jarring benching of Tyrod Taylor and then Taylor’s reanimation, it says something that the players came out and played nobly on Sunday.

GOATS OF THE WEEK

Alex Smith, quarterback, Kansas City. Chiefs down 16-10, 1:25 to play. Third-and-eight, Buffalo 36. Play of the game. Smith throws for what could have been a first down near the right sideline for Tyreek Hill … and Bills rookie cornerback Tre’Davious White steps in front of Hill for the easy pick. Game over. Smith’s fall from early-season grace is nearly complete.

Kansas City has one touchdown in its past 28 drives (thanks for the stat, CBS), he was showered with boos leaving the field, and there will be immense pressure on Andy Reid to play rookie Patrick Mahomes on Sunday at the Jets. Reid said he would not change quarterbacks, but if Smith keeps playing like this, Reid will reconsider. Reid is a nice but ruthless man.

Mike Pennel, defensive tackle, New York Jets. To say the Jets beat themselves Sunday does not do the cliché justice. They annihilated themselves with dumb penalties, two dropped TD passes and, well, I’m sure if I sat here long enough I could think of a few other things.

But Cam Newton, who had a very bad day, misfired for Devin Fuchess on third-and-11 with 2:17 to play at the Jets’ 48. Pennel, for some reason, played the tough guy and came in and shoved Newton to the ground—a clear roughing-the-passer call. Instead of having the ball after the punt and at their 15-yard line, say, with 2:03 to play, down five, with no timeouts left, the Jets let Carolina wind the clock down to 21 seconds and kick an insurance field goal. Ballgame.

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POD PEOPLE
From “The MMQB Podcast With Peter King,” available where you download podcasts.

This week’s conversations: A slew of NFL people on why they’re thankful this Thanksgiving season, led by Chargers coach Anthony Lynn and Rams tackle Andrew Whitworth, and ESPN.com investigative reporter Seth Wickersham on the Roger Goodell-Jerry Jones tension.

Click the link below or at the top and scroll down to listen:

https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/11/27/n...eelers-greg-schiano-tennessee-peter-king-mmqb

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Things I Think I Think

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1. I think Stanford’s David Shaw had better be in the top two, or one, for any NFL team looking for a head coach in 2018. But remember what he told me two years ago about having a better job than any NFL coach, and whoever wants him is going to have to convince his wife that it’s a better place than Palo Alto. Good luck. My sense is that Shaw will one day coach in the NFL, just not in the next couple of years. My early list of calls I’d make if I had a coach to hire, after I called Shaw:

• New England offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels
• Kansas City special teams coordinator Dave Toub
• Philadelphia defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz
• Detroit defensive coordinator Teryl Austin
• New England defensive coordinator Matt Patricia.

2. I think I also would fact-find about Carolina defensive coordinator Steve Wilks, University of Washington coach Chris Petersen (who likely wants to stay on the West Coast), Minnesota offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur and Houston defensive coordinator Mike Vrabel.

I’d phone Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz; I don’t think he’d leave, but I’d make him tell me that. Finally, I don’t know Jacksonville defensive coordinator Todd Wash or Kansas City offensive coordinator Matt Nagy (just 39) but hear good things about them. And as for those who say the pool of available coaches is grim, I would remind you of three names:

• Chuck Noll was an unknown and a distant second to Joe Paterno when the Steelers hired him in 1969. Four Super Bowl wins followed.

• “An inspired choice or a real mistake?” the Philadelphia Inquirer wondered after the hire of Andy Reid in 1999—and he proceeded to win 74 more games than anyone else in club history.

• Robert Kraft told me earlier this year he was warned by former Browns owner Art Modell to stay far away from Bill Belichick—and all Belichick has done is win 235 games in New England.

Moral of the story: There are scores of good coaches out there. They need good quarterbacks and good organizations to succeed.

Last point to make: Jon Gruden might be interested in going back to the Raiders. I hear he loves Derek Carr and would like to see once in his career what he could do with a franchise quarterback. But I think it’s not likely Jack Del Rio gets fired.

3. I think this story about Greg Schiano having a deal to coach Tennessee, then having the deal walked back Sunday evening because of the outcry over what mighthave happened at Penn State connected to the Jerry Sandusky case, over what was never proven and was denied by the relevant parties under oath, over what Tennessee never investigated thoroughly, is a disgrace to thinking people.

It also emboldens the screamers on social media, a nod to those who think if you scream loud enough in this current iteration of America you can overcome reason, and a totally unfair slap at a good man in Schiano. The pathetic result of this caper is that the social-media lynch mob won, and no matter how well Schiano does as an assistant at Ohio State, it may never be good enough for him to get a head-coaching job. The water has been poisoned by the crazies. In America today, that matters.

4. I think these are my quick thoughts on Week 12:

a. What a great game Green Bay-Pittsburgh was.

b. Man, Brett Hundley proved me wrong, at least this week. What a tremendous late-fourth-quarter drive, including 72 yards passing, moving the Packers for six first downs and the tying touchdowns—and converting a fourth down with under three minutes left to make the tying score possible.

c. Huge sack by T.J. Watt, nailing Hundley with a minute to go and enabling the Steelers to get the ball back with just enough time.

d. Russell Wilson: To have the Seahawks at 7-4, as beat up as the team is, is a tribute to a very good defense to be sure. But mostly it’s a tribute to you.

e. Thanks, Drew Bledsoe, for the terrific tribute written for The MMQB to the late Terry Glenn.

f. Good stats by Andrew Catalon on CBS: Zane Gonzalez of the Browns has missed five field goals this year, all wide left. Hope you’re renting, Zane.

g. Christian Jones, the Chicago middle linebacker no one knows, sure makes a lot of plays for an unknown guy.

h. When Keenan Allen next negotiates a contract with the Chargers, all he has to do is bring a tape of his last eight quarters in two must-wins for the Chargers, against Buffalo and Dallas, in a five-day span: 23 catches in 27 targets, 331 yards, three touchdowns.

i. The reception, run and stretch for the first down in the fourth quarter by Minnesota’s Stefon Diggs, making the first down by an inch, was a truly great awareness play by Diggs. Kudos to him.

j. Detroit’s Akeem Spence dropping Jerick McKinnon late in the first half for a loss was the kind of textbook run-stuff every defensive-line coach should show his players.

k. Kai Forbath makes me nervous. Very nervous. And if he makes me nervous, imagine what he does to that pepperpot Mike Zimmer.

l. Why, with the game on the line, on fourth-and-eight when the Lions needed a conversion, did Matthew Stafford throw to a blanketed receiver—covered by the Vikes’ best corner, Xavier Rhodes—with almost zero chance for completion?

m. Yikes: Dak Prescott’s passer rating this year with Zeke Elliott in the lineup: 97.9. Prescott without Elliott: 57.0.

n. Looks like Eli Apple is turning into a lost top pick for the Giants, per Paul Schwartz of the New York Post.

o. Prince Amukamara could take the video of his pass-breakup of the Carson Wentz-to-Torrey Smith throw in Philadelphia and show it to young corners everywhere. Perfect timing, mechanics of a pass breakup.

p. Gotta catch that ball, Austin Seferian-Jenkins. That drop of a first-quarter touchdown pass cost the Jets four points.

5. I think I do not mean to be cruel, but this is the truth: Brock Osweiler has gotten two offensive coordinators (George Godsey, Mike McCoy) fired from two teams (Houston, Denver) in consecutive seasons. Also:

• Osweiler has played so poorly in Houston that he had to be traded to Cleveland along with a second-round pick so the Browns would take him. He played so poorly in training camp in Cleveland that the Browns, desperate for a placeholder quarterback, fired him anyway. He played so poorly in Denver in relief of Trevor Siemian that he was demoted the other day from number one to number three quarterback.

• Osweiler is employed in the NFL today. Colin Kaepernick is not. It helps explain why so many people are rooting hard for Kaepernick’s longshot collusion case against the NFL.

6. I think it’s time to sound the TV ratings alarm—if you haven’t already heard it clanging from coast to coast. It looks even worse when considering that the NFL, perhaps rightfully, blamed last year’s ratings decline on the attention magnet that the 2016 presidential election was. But Thanksgiving week is two weeks clear of the election season. So let’s compare some of the numbers to each of the past two years to see where we are (thanks to Sports Media Watch for the ratings info):

• ESPN, Monday night, Atlanta at Seattle: 6.4 rating, a decline of 28.1 percent from Buffalo-New England in 2015 … a decline of 7.2 percent from Houston-Oakland last year.

• FOX, Thanksgiving Day, Minnesota at Detroit: 11.4 rating, a drop of 7.3 percent from Philadelphia-Detroit in 2015 … a drop of 12.3 percent from Minnesota-Detroit last year.

• CBS, Thanksgiving Day, Los Angeles Chargers at Dallas: 12.4 rating, a decrease of 19.0 percent from Dallas-Carolina in 2015 … a decrease of 20.5 percent from Dallas-Washington last year.

• NBC, Thanksgiving night, New York Giants at Washington: 9.7 rating, a drop of 33.6 percent from Chicago-Green Bay in 2015 … a drop of 10.2 percent from Indianapolis-Pittsburgh last year.

A bit of clarification: CBS did the early-window game from Detroit last year; FOX did the early game from Detroit this year. So the numbers on FOX and CBS are window versus window, not network versus network. But in window versus window, the numbers of ’17 versus ’16 were down 7.2, 12.3, 20.5 and 10.2 percent on Monday and Thursday of Thanksgiving week. Not good.

7. I think I don’t want to rain on the Matthew Stafford parade, and I get that he is struggling with a sore ankle, but man, that was an underwhelming performance Thursday in a game the Lions had to have.

8. I think the Eagles have a very interesting road trip coming up: at Seattle on Sunday night, against the beat-up but still dangerous Seahawks; then working out on Eagle season-ticket-holder Mike Trout’s baseball field in Anaheim for the following week; then playing the dangerous Rams (in a preview of my prospective NFC title game) the following Sunday.

9. I think congrats are in order for Archie and Olivia Manning’s grandson, Cooper Manning’s son, Peyton Manning’s nephew and Eli Manning’s nephew. A 70-percent passing day for Arch Manning in a big game. Heck of a game, kid. (And yes, the boy goes by “Arch.”)

Several thoughts after reflecting on the Saint game win...

Just some stuff that the beat writers haven’t touched on much yet.

Anybody else surprised that there weren’t more attacks on the Saint backup CB’s? I thought McVay would be all over it and all game long.

Speaking of McVay, I was going crazy with all the Tavon touches early on while legit threats and producers were seeing their touches diminished. More Gurley, Watkins, Kupp, Higbee, and Reynolds Coach!

Why is it that Wade’s D gives up long TD runs early in so many games? Then tightens up for the rest of the day? It’s driving me nuts! This has GOT to be fixed before the playoffs. Heck, before the Eagle game. Just tell them at the starting kickoff that it’s the 2nd qtr, Wade, and watch them kick butt. Lol.

Too many missed tackles yesterday. Another thing that must be cleaned up.

I predict that Watkins will now be a bigger focus on the part of both Goff and McVay.

Helluva game by Kupp. I love this kid and look forward to the next 10 years of his production excellence. I think that some have overreacted to those rare occasions where he fails to make the catch. And that crucial fumble vs the Vikings, of course. Kupp is a gem and was a 3rd round steal.

Been a long, long time since the Rams have had so many quality receivers that they could deploy, huh? A great feeling.

Well, the Goff doubters are becoming pretty scarce these days. Most important position on the team appears to be in very good hands for the next 15 years. Can you imagine what he might become after another couple of seasons under McVay?

Can someone explain to me why coaches love that dreaded Prevent D? After holding Brees to 13 points (including that 7 point Kamara early burst) for 56 danged minutes, they do their “Prevent thing” and give him 7 points in about one minute. Nobody on our coaching staff noticed what Brees did to the Redskin Prevent D in 3 minutes the previous week? Sheesh! ‘Bout had a heart attack watching those last 3 minutes yesterday!

Malcolm Brown can’t get back soon enough for me. Dunbar is never healthy, Tavon is useless, and I guess McVay doesn’t trust Austin Davis.

I’ll be honest. I was afraid that the Saint juggernaut was gonna keep rolling all the way to the NFC Championship game and the Rams would become their 9th win in a row. I am so proud of what the Ram team and coaches accomplished yesterday. The Rams are truly for real. They may not go all the way, but it would be a big mistake for anyone to not take them seriously the rest of the way. I haven’t felt this much pride and respect for the Rams in at least 13-15 years.

Can Reynolds and Everett play, or what? Bright future for both those kids.

Gotta give it up for Quinn in this game. I’ve been down on him lately, but he picked a great game to flash as a bit of an impact player.

Barwin wasn’t really missed when he had to come out. Does that mean what I think it means? Hmmmmm...

Romo was a joy to listen to. If, somehow, either Romo or Spielman could do color on all Ram games, I would be one happy camper.

Romo had some kind words for Ogletree, didn’t he? Said that his play was evidence of heavy film study.

Magnificent tackle by Webster to save a TD. Both a textbook and inspirational tackle.

The flea flicker trick play was a surprise. Not that they called it, but that Pharoah wasn’t the one throwing the ball. AND that McVay hadn’t designed it such that the Saints would be caught with their pants down and at least ONE Ram would be open. Those last 2 things are pretty important in such a trick play. Lol.

All in all, it was a helluva game and against a helluva opponent. Fun to watch, but I was limp by halftime. Lol.

Then again, 8 more just like that would be fine by me. Yeah, I was counting the playoffs in there, too.

Romo's praise of Goff

I'm not sure how many of you paid attention to it, but Tony was giving our boy some mad props today. He said Jared has the traits of a great QB and in Tony's opinion has a very high ceiling.

It's one thing for some ESPN analyst who played DB in college to give praise, but an ex pro bowl QB I feel holds much more weight

He was showing how Jared keeps his weight on his back foot which allows him to deliver balls under duress very quickly and without a lot of wasted movement. Also showcased a little swing pass to Tavon with a free runner coming right at his face.

We all know he's going to be a great QB but I thought it was cool hearing another great QB highlight some things that make him a beast.

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