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What did you learn from week 4?

Ok guys - Just managed to watch the game. WOW. Just WOW.

But, what did you learn from the game? He's mine, from the first viewing, I will have to watch the game again though, it was a great matchup.

Goff: Again I'm starting with our QB. I don't think I've seen him play better. His passing was to perfection, when there was nothing on, he threw away the pass which is something he hasn't done to date this year, which I think is the right move :) If he carries on like this it's going to be between him and Gurley for Offensive MVP.

Oline: The consistency is amazing, the protection amazing, the amount of security they're giving Goff - I'm in awe!

WRs: I don't want to highlight any one of them, because these guys are precision route runners, with damn sticky hands, I almost feel guilty that we have 3 guys that can deliver!

Everett: I think it was Everett in the Endzone on that missed pass, why didn't he try and catch that damn ball!!!

Red zone production: This still needs to be improved IMO.

Ficken: You can't ficken miss >30yd FGs, this game came down to a 7 pt win for the Rams if it wasn't for that strip sack by JFM we could have been level taking us to OT. I don't want to go into OT and lose on a fluke TD, and I'm nervous about relying on this guy in close game situations...

Dline: That's more like it, even more pressure, Donald looked a lot sharper and quicker tonight too.

Peters: Wasn't himself, I don't think that calf was fully healed, guy seemed to lose a step, then again the Vickings WRs are the real deal, and I think the best that the Rams will come up against this season.

Ebukam: Seems to be getting better, he's half a step from becoming a threat in this D.

Hekker: Shanked that last punt, cut him :whistle:

McVay: The man is having so much fun, loving his enthusiasm, and play calling, it really is a thing of beauty.

Game Replay Observations

I am a Night guy so stayed up to rewatch our Badass game tonight. Here are my observations after watching, rewinding and replaying every play a few times.

1. As posted in another thread - Goff had one incaccurate pass all night. Simply incredible.

2 But Maybe better than the accuracy was the 5 throw aways when nothing was there. Having an attacking fearless throwers mentality while also knowing when to throw it away is very hard to find in a QB.

3. We may have three 1000 yard 10 TD WR's this year. Kupp, Woods and Cooks are all over 300 yards in 4 games and on pace for over 1200 yards each. Kupp on pace for 16 TD, Woods with 12 and Cooks only with 1 TD so far but could easily catch up the pace with the way this offense is now operating.

4. The Rams offensive line is simply Awesome. I can't remember any offensive line in the NFL that is so assignment sound in both the run and pass. Each one of them had a moment when they were individually beat on a play leading to a pressure or sack or throw away, but Goff nicely compensates for these mishaps with his throw aways and quick reactions in the pocket.

5 By Rule there cannot be defensive pass interference on a defender on a fake punt that results in a throw down the field. I was originally pissed at Reynolds for not doing his best Brandin Cooks acting job impression but it wouldn't have mattered. But yes he should have at least tried to catch the ball.

6 Donald is in game shape. Even if he didn't have the two sacks, this would have been a dominating performance. Its hard to catch this during live action, but when you rewatch the tape carefully its clear he is in the backfield immediately every play.

7 Franklin-Myers - Great forced fumble to seal the game. But watch the tape and you will see he is very slow to the QB. I don't see him as a long term solution as an edge rusher the way they are trying to use him. He does provide power to collapse the pocket but doesn't have the quickness to be a force in this league. Sorry, just watch the tape and you will see.

8 Ebukam - Good speed and quickness but still getting engulfed by tackles on the edge. Its a problem.

9 Christian - Huge Liability in pass coverage. Yes we love his big hits but unless he can get better real fast he's gonna find his way back to a depth only guy. We gave up 400 yards passing and he is a big part of the problem. Watch the tape.

10 Ramik Wilson - See Christian but worse. Don't even know where to start. Looks like he is running in mud trying to cover underneath routes some times, and he doesn't offer much in run support.

11 Barron - Need him back ASAP. The knack for the blitz and the underneath coverage he offers is critical.

12 Shields- Got beat a few times but made some plays too showcasing that Pro Bowl talent from a few years ago. I think the Talib injury is a blessing in disguise because Shields just needs so reps to get back to his tip top form.

13 A gap Blitz - Watching Littleton show blitz in the A gap and then bail every play is annoying. How about let him actually press the A gap. Either he gets a sack or Frees the double team on Donald. I saw a delay blitz from him one time but the timing was off and he delayed too long it appeared.

14 How to fix the Defense:
A. We need an edge rusher. Maybe Obo is that guy, maybe one of these other rookies on the practice squad can be tried. Maybe we bring some old retired dude in like Atlanta did with Dwight Freeney or the Steelers with old man James Harrison.
B. As already stated Christian and Wilson need to be replaced. Barron and someone else. My vote is Kiser.

15 Kirk Cousins - He had one hell of a game.Throws in between defenders on multiple occasions. Props to the job he did.

16 What a time to be a RAM FAN!!!!!!!! This offense is now in full effect and rivals the GSOT. Most "experts" are now considering us the best team in the NFL.

17 David Carr shut the hell up- It was so nice to see Carr on the postgame on the NFL Network admit how good Goff is. Of course he picked his brother before the season to his top 10 QB list and left Goff off the top 10 list. Sucks to admit you are wrong but you had to do exactly that tonight.

Goff: One inaccurate pass all night

Jrry asked in the celebration thread if Goff had more than 1 bad pass all night.

I just went back and watched all 7 incompletions Goff threw.

Indeed!! Goff had 1 bad throw all night in 33 attempts. Simply one of the most dominating performances you
will ever see.

Here are the Totals:

5 Throw aways
1 Great knockdown by defender Kearse
1 Wide pass by Goff to Kupp

Details:
1 Throw away to covered Cooks
on Goff rollout to right.

2 Throw away over Cooks on WR screen where Defender is in front of Cooks.

3 Throw away to Higbee on pressure inside. Missed blocks by Saffold and Sullivan.

4 Throw wide to Kupp. Goff’s only bad pass of night.

5 Throw away over Gurley 3rd and 7. Gurley covered.

6 Kearse knockdown to Kupp in end zone. Great throw. Great play by Kearse.

7 Throw away, Sheldon Richardson pressure. Richardson read the fake play action to the right.

What a night!!! Simply Dominating.

McVay : shots fired

firstly waking up at 4 am to watch a rams is pretty much the best start to a day and after 2 cups of tea and a coffee it occured to me

this was Mcvay firing back at the critics of one Mr golden arm Goff (plus a little payback for last year),While our QB simply doesnt care what people are saying about you can bet his coach (and team mates do)

How many times have we watched a segment on the telebox read a tweet on the internet that Goff is just a member of the party bus
"Mcvay talks him through coverage"
"the offense goes through Gurley "
and now the fabled
" he is a product of the system "

well i see you system QB and agree, but not like you you would like me to mr and mrs main stream media

Goff isnt good because of the system ,,Goff is the reason the system is so good . he is almost becoming fearless with his throws..double covered no worries ..deep ball ..ill drop it in your hands ..please blitz me i dare you..

Goff put the league on notice last night and did it against a preseason favorite for the superbowl (but they havent beten anyone with a winning record blah blah blah ) . there isnt a team that wants to face this rams team right now and while i like to remain even keel and know theres a long way to go in the season ...

can we just give Goff a ten year bazillion dollar contract ..please and thanks

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Buck and Aikman...

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can suck my DNA rifle. man they irritate the fuck out of me.

aikman at the beginning of the game as goff walks up to behind centre, "the coach is talking to him now". well, duh, you fuckwit. that's what every oc is doing during the game. funny the only time i've heard him say that is when goff is on the field.

then the way they went on and on about the block in the back. didn't hear a peep out of them about all the blatant holds by the vikings oline. like literally donald getting pulled backwards as he was on his way to the qb.

plus their voices irritate me.

fuckwits.

ahhh, i feel better now.

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Insanity

Does anyone besides me think New Orleans and New England were freaking insane to trade Brandin Cooks? This guy is a game changer and a stud wide receiver. Mc Vay knew exactly what he was doing when he traded a #1 pick for Cooks. It seems like McVay has only made good moves since he got here.

The draft capital spent on Goff is paying off and I bet Cooks is glad to be in LA.

The Rams are going to be serious SB contenders. I was cautiously optimistic but I drank the kool aid after tonight's game.

DC's Plan Obsolete: Just Shut Down Gurley?

Jared Goff has arrived.

No, he hasn't won a Super Bowl but the hedging by experts just died tonight. He is accurate and will shred your defenses, NFL. McGenius' is dialing up plays in which Goff deals the cards, and they're Aces high. Every game I have seen since Fisher threw Goff into the fire, I've heard "Just Stop Gurley" and that's the game. Pick your poison, boys. So far, the Los Angeles Rams are unstoppable.

What We Learned: Jared Goff's historic night leads Rams past Vikings

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...-goffs-historic-night-leads-rams-past-vikings

In a back-and-forth Southern California shootout, Jared Goff and the Los Angeles Rams (4-0) outgunned Kirk Cousins and the Minnesota Vikings (1-2-1), 38-31, on
Thursday Night Football in Week 4.

1. This Rams offense is something special, something historic, something unstoppable. Sean McVay's unit continued its torrid pace of production Thursday night, racking up 557 yards and six scoring drives against a previously heralded Vikings defense. Jared Goff set career highs in passing yards (465) and touchdowns (5) in a perfect passing performance (158.3 rating) that put in him in the conversation with Rams greats. Goff became the first Rams quarterback with five touchdowns in a game since Kurt Warner during the Rams' Super Bowl-winning 1999 season. Unfairly described as a system quarterback benefitting more from McVay's genius than his own development, Goff has silenced those critics over the past two weeks. His demolitions of the deep Chargers and Vikings defenses in consecutive games is a one-two punch to naysayers who claim Goff is a product of the system when in fact he is, as NFL.com's Michael Silver detailed last week, "the pulse of it."

2. Goff's career evening had everything: designed rollouts, play-action screens, seam routes over befuddled linebackers (usually Anthony Barr). The diversity in Los Angeles' play-calling lends itself to its variety of runners and receivers, one of whom each week seems to stand out above the rest. This week, it was Cooper Kupp, who set career highs with 162 receiving yards and two touchdowns. But he was just one of four different Rams players with at least 100 yards from scrimmage. Brandin Cooks (126 total yards), Robert Woods (101) and Todd Gurley (166) each scored a touchdown and received at least five touches. Having four players on the field who can extend drives or go for six on a given play makes life near impossible for opposing defensive coordinators and unexpecting linebackers, again, like Barr. The Rams will benefit from mismatches all season long.

3. Kirk Cousins rebounded from an embarrassing showing at home against the previously winless Billsto slice up an injury-riddled Rams defense. In passing for 422 yards, Cousins set a franchise record for most passing yards through four games. His accuracy and rapport with Adam Thielen and Stefon Diggsis difficult for any defense to defend. (Thielen's 473 receiving yards through four games are the most by a Vikings receiver, breaking Randy Moss' mark from 2003.) Down the stretch, Cousins even displayed out-of-pocket mobility on a game-high 19-yard run. Despite his performance last week, he's still worth the guaranteed pact Minnesota offered him this offseason, lest Vikings fans overreact to one unsettled afternoon.

4. However, the walls did gradually close in Cousins, as his maligned offensive line grew overwhelmed over time by a relentless pass rush from Aaron Donald, Ndamukong Suh, Michael Brockers and rookie John Franklin-Myers. Three of the Rams' four takedowns of Cousins on the night came on Minnesota's final five plays. Whereas Donald had success swimming past Minnesota's guards, Suh was often flexed out as a defensive end to take advantage of the Vikings' hampered tackles. What Los Angeles lacks in speed at outside linebacker, it makes up for in versatility on the defensive line.

5. Where is the vaunted Vikings defense from 2017? Minnesota hasn't put together a great half of defensive football worthy of its roster since the first half of the Minneapolis Miracle. The Rams' juggernaut offense makes most defenses look unprepared and overwhelmed, but George Edwards' unit was supposed to be different. Instead, without Everson Griffen on the defensive line and down starting cornerback Trae Waynes (concussion), the Vikings allowed over 500 yards of offense for the first time since Week 4 of 2014, the fourth game of Mike Zimmer's reign. Safe to say the skipper was not happy with the showing.




"We've never been -- probably anywhere I've ever been -- we've never been this poor in pass coverage," Zimmer told reporters after the game. "I'm concerned. I've been concerned all year long. We have not played well defensively."

Next up for Zimmer's flailing defense: Carson Wentz and the Super Bowl champion Eagles. Bonne chance.

6. Perhaps the Rams rushed Marcus Peters back too soon. Originally expected to miss up to four weeks with a calf injury, the cornerback was questionable coming in, then surprisingly activated and placed in the starting lineup. Minnesota took advantage of Peters' limited mobility, targeting him with the route-running extraordinaire Thielen and on deep throws. Just four days after being helped off the field by trainers, Peters played all 72 defensive snaps. That being said, nice showing from Sam Shields, who made his first start Thursday since the 2016 season opener and showed out with a touchdown-saving swat on Diggs in the second quarter.

7. The return of Dalvin Cook to Minnesota's starting lineup did nothing to ignite the running game, which stumbled for the second consecutive week. Cook (10 carries), Latavius Murray (2) and Roc Thomas (1) combined for just 26 yards on the ground. That lack of balance, even in a shootout, is troubling for a supposed NFC North contender.

8. When are the Rams going to lose? Los Angeles plays four road games in their next five, including one against the Saints in Week 9. The Rams also welcome Aaron Rodgers and the Packers to the Coliseum in Week 8 and clash with Patrick Mahomes's Chiefs in Mexico City in Week 11.

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TL: DR Jared Goff is awesome. The rest of the league is in trouble.

Finally re-watched the Charger game...

A few observations upon further review...

This Ram O is something else. Had Ficken not missed the FG, and Goff and Gurley not turned the ball over deep in Charger territory, we would have hung a minimum of 44 points on the Chargers, and maybe as many as 52 if they got the 2 TD’s. Think about that...

I would hate to be the 4th WR trying to crack this starting lineup.

Our OL has been simply magnificent. And we all know that it all starts there.

Watching how rare it is to see a failed 3rd down conversion, 4th down attempts make more and more sense to me if on the opponents side of their 40 yard line.

Could it be that our TE’s are becoming a part of our O? Lol.

Should we consider giving Goff the nickname of “Joe Cool”? This kid is impressing the hell outta me.

Edge is our Achilles heel on D, no doubt about it. Ebu ain’t exactly lighting it up and the other side looks like a bunch of JAGs. Wade is rotating everyone but the water boy on the other side looking for a spark but it just hasn’t happened yet. Hoping for something from Obo, but who knows when or if there? I fear that it won’t be fixed until next offseason via FA or the draft. Will an edge player be BPA at #32? (See what I did there?) Draft guru input most welcome about this position.

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if they had found a Blythe, Shields, or JJ steal at edge via FA, trade, or draft? Wishful thinking, I know, but it seems like the only non success by this regime lately.

Okay, I’m just gonna ask it. Is Barron toast? He’s now missed 4 games, y’all. Are they hiding something?

Well, the injury bug has returned in full force.

Barron
GZ
Cooper
JoJo
Talib
Peters
Easley

Are you KIDDING me? And with 13 games still left in the regular season? All on D or ST, mind you. C’mon...

Guess the O is gonna have to step it up to 40+ points per, lol.

D played an excellent game in the first half, but they were giving up too many chunks both passing and rushing in the second. That’s gotta be fixed.

Hav is looking like an excellent extension, huh?

The Shields signing is looking like a stroke of genius.

Barring devastating injuries to key players, I see no reason why these Rams should not go deeply into the playoffs. And emphasis is on DEEPLY.

Bring on the Vikings. We owe those mofos going back over 40 years.

Rams vs. Vikings TNF Preview Show feat. Minnesota Vikings QB Kyle Sloter

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Jake is back with another game preview ahead of the Rams and Vikings regular season rematch from last season. Jake is joined by Kyle Sloter of the Minnesota Vikings for the third time on the podcast to talk about the 2018 Vikings compared to 2017, the recent tie with the Packers, the off-season QB re-shuffle and of course the game.

This podcast is brought to you by the likes of our friends Throwback Joe, VYBE 305, SeatGiant and Rams On Demand.

How the one-year 'bust' label molded Rams QB Jared Goff into the league's most underrated QB

How the one-year 'bust' label molded Rams QB Jared Goff into the league's most underrated QB

September 27, 2018
| By:

Jake Ellenbogen

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It wasn't long ago the California Golden Boy himself Jared Goff was the number one rated QB heading into the 2016 NFL Draft. Goff was coming out of the University of California, the same school as arguably the best QB to ever play the game, Aaron Rodgers came from. Goff was number one in just about every mock draft to go to the Cleveland Browns via trade, who were slated to have the number two selection. Paxton Lynch, the strong-armed physical freak out of Memphis was making a push to dethrone Goff. Then, all of the sudden, the mainstream caught up and started talking up the FCS signal-caller Carson Wentz of North Dakota State. After most of the season being considered "the guy" Goff suddenly had competition at his position. Wentz, a senior, went to the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Alabama and was electric, he had scouts and media personnel buzzing. The junior out of California really made his presence felt at the NFL Combine but the problem was, so did Wentz. After a Goff vs. Lynch argument had run its course, Carson Wentz had taken over as the top QB on half of the country's board. It was a legitimate 50/50 battle who was going to go number one overall. Out of nowhere, the Los Angeles Rams packaged and quite frankly mortgaged their future to trade up to the number one overall spot with the Tennessee Titans to select either Wentz or Goff. After a long debate and the NFL making the Rams wait until the official draft pick to take him...the Rams made Jared Goff the future of Los Angeles football. It became apparent early on he wasn't ready to take over the offense and so Case Keenum, a veteran gunslinger in his own right took over the reigns.

The way the Rams season started off at 3-1, it looked as though the team may never switch from Keenum that year, but it became apparent after only winning one more game going into week 10, Jared Goff needed to get his shot as the starting QB. Goff as a rookie had perhaps, statistically, the worst rookie season for a QB in the history of the NFL. That may sound like an exaggeration but it was bad. Goff's star RB Todd Gurley had a nightmare season that saw him not even amass 900 yards rushing, his best WR was Kenny Britt who cannot even stay on a roster now and his offensive line was absolutely terrible and was likely the worst unit in football. Goff had his big-time "flash" game in New Orleans to start, he threw three quick first-half touchdowns but had a miserable game in the second half in what turned out to be a blowout. Goff had finished the year 0-7 and had websites such as Walter Football calling for the Rams to draft Sam Darnold in the 2018 NFL Draft as a "way-too-early" mock draft. People lost all of their confidence in Goff, but Goff, in reality, was set up to fail. Carson Wentz during his rookie year flashed massive amounts of potential but his rookie year wasn't perfect either. Goff had come off a season that saw him possessing one of the worst run games, receiving core, tight end group, offensive line, a defense that practically gave up towards the end of the season and a below average coaching staff. Goff has always been a competitor going back to his days at Cal in which he saw his first season as the starter of their football program go south in a hurry. Goff played for the 1-11 California Golden Bears and that was one of the things early on that prepared him for the likes of what he could see in the NFL. Head coach Jeff Fisher and almost the entire coaching staff aside from Special Teams coordinator, interim Head coach John Fassel and Running backs coach Skip Peete stayed in the building. In what was supposed to be the Rams epic return to Los Angeles, quickly turned into the disastrous nightmare scenario and a backbreaker for fans that had been waiting for the Rams to return home for over two decades.

The Rams hired Redskins Offensive coordinator and 30-year old Head coach Sean McVay and suddenly everything changed. The Rams felt the need to surround poor Jared Goff with weapons, albeit the team lacked a first-round pick, the Rams were able to go out and sign All-Pro LT Andrew Whitworth, WR Robert Woods not including the draft picks the Rams made acquiring TE Gerald Everett in the second round, WR Cooper Kupp in the third round and Josh Reynolds in the fourth round. The team didn't feel as comfortable with the pieces for Goff so General manager Les Snead contacted newly appointed Bills GM Brandon Beane and made a blockbuster trade sending CB E.J. Gaines and a second-round pick in 2018 for disgruntled but extremely talented WR Sammy Watkins. It was clear the Rams had Goff's back and were invested in him. Sean McVay did not waver his opinion of Goff and instead of trying to push him out and find "his guy" like most coaches oftentimes do, McVay truly wanted to build around the 22-year-old QB. Goff started off the season looking like a solid QB that could manage a game well and still test defenses with that impressive deep ball he had in his arsenal. However, Goff did not seem as though he was a future top five overall QB in the league. There was something off with Goff, he just didn't seem to read coverages quick enough and he seemed to be looking down receivers and tipping his hand too often. He still made his "wow" throws here and there but you could see especially with the way Sean McVay game-planned for the Seattle Seahawks in week four and the Jacksonville Jaguars in week five, the Rams could use more out of Goff in regards to his development. With the same token, it was also imperative for many to realize this was still in a way Goff's rookie year after only playing in seven of the 16 games last season.

Many felt this Rams team was really good but Goff had not played up to the level of the team. That was quickly put to bed after the Rams bye week. Sean McVay clearly sensed growth, understanding and awareness out of his young QB as he unleashed him to the NFL starting off with a 52-point outburst on the road across the entire country. Goff, all of the sudden after starting off his career 0-7 had quickly become a dark-horse MVP candidate. Rams RB Todd Gurley was a big part of the Rams offense and was likely the biggest but Goff had officially turned himself into a legit NFL starting QB as he led the Rams to their first NFC West Division Title since 2004. The team shot into the playoffs as the highest scoring offense after finishing as the worst offense a year ago. Goff went toe-to-toe with 2017 NFL MVP Matt Ryan, that same Matt Ryan who led his team to the Super Bowl the year prior. Goff out-played Ryan, in a game that didn't go the Rams way, Goff showed poise in the pocket and made some spectacular throws to give Los Angeles a chance to steal the game back after three turnovers. Unfortunately, the supporting cast let him down with two touchdown drops and one big-play drop as well. The Rams 2017 campaign was over but Goff had turned in a great performance.

McVay and company realized after their brutal home defeat versus the Atlanta Falcons, the team needed some overhaul. The Rams overhauled their defense with a mission to bring in players that would create more turnovers and put Goff back on the field with the offense more often. With the exciting additions of Marcus Peters, Aqib Talib, Ndamukong Suh and Sam Shields, nothing was more exciting for the offense than when the Rams traded their 23rd-overall selection to acquire former Patriots and Saints WR Brandin Cooks. The Rams had just lost Sammy Watkins to the Chiefs and by doing this trade, the team had replaced Watkins with a player more capable of fitting the offense and being able to do everything the team needed him to. The Rams didn't stop there, for Goff, they signed RB Gurley, WR Cooks and RT Rob Havenstein to long-term deals which only stabilized more around the young Rams franchise QB. Going into the 2018 season, the Rams were one of the favorites to win the NFC but they weren't quite there yet according to many.

No matter how fun the Rams team looked on paper, no matter what McVay meant to the team, no matter what Snead had done in the off-season the Rams simply were not getting the respect at the QB position. Many outlets had already dubbed 49ers franchise QB Jimmy Garoppolo as a top-ten QB after only seven career starts in the NFL. Jared Goff however, was around the top 15 conversation and why was that? It was due to his rookie year. You see, when someone says it's all about the first impression it makes sense. If you step into a job interview and leave a bad first impression, odds are, you aren't getting the job. With the media, fans and league executives alike, Goff had already made his first impression when he went 0-7, it didn't matter about who or what was around him. Now, instead of giving Goff the benefit of the doubt in 2017 and commending him on a job well done, it was all about Sean McVay. McVay is likely the next Bill Belichick, but to discredit Goff and even call him a "System Quarterback" was just silly. As great as McVay's offense is and will continue to be, Goff has transformed himself as a player. You saw the California kid on Hard Knocks, he wasn't ready to lead a football team. You also saw him in a season-ending interview: "We will get this fixed." Goff has taken accountability, he didn't pin any blame on his turnstile of an offensive line, or his star running back who struggled or his awful coaching staff that didn't seem to know what they were doing. You see, Goff was prepared for this from his 1-11 season at California as previously mentioned. Sure, he may not have won a National Title, he may not have been a five-star recruit coming out of High School but Goff has proven in a short amount of time he can change fortunes, opinions and succeed. Jared Goff is clearly a franchise QB, that is no longer a debate.

Now, you know the story, you know Goff is not a bust, you never look back and think what could have been with all of the draft picks the Rams traded away for Goff and you certainly don't throw a fit anymore that Sean Mannion isn't starting over Goff. That's all because at the end of the day Goff has taken an unprecedented amount of pressure in being the first-overall pick, in his home state to be the answer for a long-time losing franchise that had just relocated back to their original home of 49 years. It was a massive amount of pressure on Goff to turn around a California program from 1-11 or rather rock bottom just like it was with the Rams 4-12 season. Goff, with the help of many, has done that. However, Goff is now really starting to show early on in his third season just how good he truly is. The 23-year old signal-caller has a career stat-line even after his debacle of a rookie season of 39 touchdowns, 16 interceptions, 6,093 passing yards, 60.7 completion percentage, 7.4 yards per pass, a 92.2 passer rating and a 14-11 win/loss record as a starting QB. If you take away his rookie year, Goff has an extremely efficient stat-line of 34 touchdowns, 9 interceptions, 4,745 passing yards, 63.5 completion percentage, 8.2 yards per pass, a 102.3 passer rating and a 14-4 win/loss record as a starting QB. Not bad for a bust right?

Here's an even better look at Goff's early career compared to some spectacular QB talents. He started in his 25th game of his career this past Sunday so here are his first 25 regular season game results compared to some other big name QB's:

Notable QB's Through First 25 Regular Season Starts in NFL:

Tom Brady: 64.6% CMP, 42 TDs, 22 INTs, 5,680 yards, 6.7 YPA, 90.0 RTG, 17-8
Drew Brees: 59.6% CMP, 26 TDs, 29 INTs, 5,097 yards, 6.1 YPA, 73.3 RTG, 9-16
Derek Carr: 60.2% CMP, 42 TDs, 18 INTs, 5,666 yards, 6.1 YPA, 85.2 RTG, 7-18
Joe Flacco: 62.2% CMP, 26 TDs, 19 INTs, 5,170 yards, 7.10 YPA, 84.6 RTG, 16-9
Jared Goff: 60.7% CMP, 39 TDs, 16 INTs, 6,093 yards, 7.4 YPA, 92.2 RTG, 14-11
Andrew Luck: 55.6% CMP, 37 TDs, 24 INTs, 6,572 yards, 7.01 YPA, 80.1 RTG, 17-8
Eli Manning: 53.16% CMP, 35 TDs, 28 INTs, 5,357 yards, 6.52 YPA, 73.5 RTG, 13-12
Peyton Manning: 57.7% CMP, 43 TDs, 38 INTs, 6,258 yards, 7.06 YPA, 78.0 RTG, 10-15
Philip Rivers: 61.4% CMP, 32 TDs, 19 INTs, 5,131 yards, 7.18 YPA, 87.0 RTG, 19-6
Aaron Rodgers: 63.7% CMP, 45 TDs, 18 INTs, 6,482 yards, 7.7 YPA, 96.6 RTG, 11-14
Ben Roethlisberger: 64.8% CMP, 32 TDs, 18 INTs, 4,830 yards, 8.90 YPA, 99.0 RTG, 22-3
Matt Ryan: 60.5% CMP, 30 TDs, 23 INTs, 5,448 yards, 7.44 YPA, 84.1 RTG, 16-9
Matthew Stafford: 58.8 CMP, 46 TDs, 35 INTs, 6,329 yards, 6.5 YPA, 79.4 RTG, 10-15
Carson Wentz: 61.8% CMP, 39 TDs, 19 INTs, 6,044 yards, 6.6 YPA, 87.3 RTG, 15-10
Russell Wilson: 63.4% CMP, 41 TDs, 16 INTs, 4,963 yards, 7.95 YPA, 99.3 RTG, 19-6

Shocking huh? The crazy thing is that no matter where you look, Jared Goff, is considered outside of the top ten of QB's by many. It's not like it's a big deal, Goff was already asked if he was a system QB and he basically said he can be a system QB as long as the Rams keep winning. Goff has made tremendous strides and really this past week three matchup you saw all of it come together. Sure, he has the best offensive mind in the game, the best RB in the backfield, arguably the best WR trio and now one of the best offensive line's but Goff is making all of the throws. He just played the best game of his career, Pro Football Focus even gave him an elite grade for his play. Goff is top five this year in adjusted completion percentage, he's quickly become one of the best deep ball throwers in the league and he's leading this 2018 Rams squad to their first 3-0 start since 2001. Things aren't all just different because of McVay, he has a ton to do with it but as you can see above Jared Goff is producing big-time numbers that make you seriously wonder what his potential is. In 25 starts Goff's completion percentage is higher than Matt Ryan's, his touchdown total is the same as Carson Wentz, his interception total is the same is two less than Aaron Rodgers, his passing yards are higher than Drew Brees, he's averaging a higher yards per pass than Andrew Luck, his passer rating is higher than Tom Brady and his win percentage is greater than Aaron Rodgers was to start off his career.

It wasn't fair to say Goff was just Matt Ryan or Eli Manning, it wasn't fair to say he was a bust after seven games and it certainly wasn't fair to call Deshaun Watson and Jimmy Garoppolo better QB's after seven starts of their own. However, it doesn't matter, Goff is surprisingly the most underrated signal-caller in the league as he leads at the helm of what is the league's current Super Bowl favorite. It has nothing to do with the lack of media attention, stats or marketability. Jared Goff is not considered a top 10 QB because of what he did when Jeff Fisher was his Head coach and Greg Robinson was protecting his blindside. Goff has shed that label, it's gone. Now it's up to the rest of the world to catch up and watch as the former "bust" makes his way towards stardom.

TNF: Vikings at Rams

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The Rams’ New Wrinkle, and Why the NFC West Might Already Be Won

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/09/24/l...goff-nfc-west-jimmy-garoppolo-knee-injury-acl

The Rams’ New Wrinkle, and Why the NFC West Might Already Be Won
By ANDY BENOIT

Right around kickoff in their Battle for Los Angeles against the Chargers, the Rams unofficially clinched the NFC West. It happened the moment when, 1,600 miles east in Kansas City, 49ers quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo planted his left foot and lowered his shoulder along the sideline at the end of a scramble, his left knee buckling; the fear is a torn ACL.

The Niners, regarded as the Rams’ greatest challenger entering this season, had also lost their second most important offensive player, tailback Jerick McKinnon, to a similar injury in a late summer practice. Now they’re a team with few skill position weapons, an improving but work-in-progress defense and no quarterback. See you in 2019.

Don’t say this to Sean McVay, though. Prior to the season, he and I were discussing the NFC West teams. He lauded the Niners and Cardinals, and when I absentmindedly dismissed the Seahawks as a rebuilding team trending in the wrong direction, I got admonished. “Any team that has Russell Wilson you have to consider dangerous,” he said.

O.K., fair enough. But Seattle’s offense has always been a week-to-week proposition and, now, so is the defense. It hammered a downtrodden Cowboys offense on Sunday, but for this season’s long-term, there remain major concerns about the pass rush and secondary. And even greater concerns pock a now 0-3 Cardinals team that is averaging 6.7 points per game and just coughed up a two-touchdown lead to the Bears at home.

During McVay’s first offseason as the Rams head coach, people would ask him how he was liking his new job. His answer was always: “Couldn’t be better—we’re still undefeated.” Then he’d smile. But this past offseason, his stock answer reversed. At any mention of his team—and especially its litany of headline-generating moves—he quickly said, with no smile, “We haven’t won a game.”

With the 35-23 handling of the Chargers on Sunday, they’ve now won their first three. Their offense, which has gained a year of experience in McVay’s scheme plus an elite playmaker in wideout Brandin Cooks, looks even more dangerous than the one that led the league in scoring last year. It’s certainly more innovative.

McVay and his staff have discovered the power of jet-action. More than any team now, the Rams put a receiver in fast motion before and/or during the snap. One defensive coach told me this offseason that dealing with jet-action is “an absolute bitch.”

At least half a dozen other defensive coaches echoed this. Jet-action messes with a defense’s gap assignments. McVay builds run and pass plays that exploit this. And to ensure the defense keeps reacting with its gap assignments, he regularly hands the ball to the jet motion man. Wideouts Cooks, Cooper Kupp and Robert Woods all have multiple carries this year.

Right now, defenses don’t have an answer for it—just like they didn’t have an answer last year for L.A.’s play-action game, which remains strong. Constantly facing defenders who are put in assignment conflicts, Jared Goff, somewhat quietly, is becoming one of the NFL’s most proficient QBs.

He’s completing 70.3% of his passes and averaging 9.32 yards per attempt, with a passer rating 111.0. Maybe he is a system QB. But sharply orchestrating the smartest system in football makes you a bona fide star.

On film, Goff appears to be dripping with confidence. He’s become more patient working into his progressions, waiting the extra half-beat to let second-window throws unfold. Against zone coverage, he’s throwing to spots, trusting that a receiver (and, also, not a defender) will be there. Against man, he’s throwing with pinpoint accuracy to defeat even the tightest coverage. (As John Madden used to say in one of his video game’s automated voiceovers, “There’s no defense for a perfect throw.”)

Playing with this mix of aggression and patience requires a quarterback to make throws with defenders in his face—something Goff did willingly, but too often ineffectively, his first two seasons. Now, he’s become adroit here, using his 6' 4" frame and high release point to make contested throws look easy.

McVay is aware that his young team has not yet faced much adversity. It stayed healthy last year, performed well on the road (even on cross-country and international trips), handily won a bunch of Sunday afternoon games and played in a distracted city that’s still rediscovering its passion for pro football. The Rams shrunk a bit in the bright lights of the playoffs, losing at home to the Falcons, but by then outsiders had already declared their season a roaring success.

Things will get harder. They have to. Maybe even as soon as this week. Star corners Marcus Peters and Aqib Talib left Sunday’s win with injuries. Either or both could be unavailable Thursday night against a Vikings team that boasts two of football’s best wideouts, Adam Thielen and Stefon Diggs.

Those Vikings, despite their embarrassing no-show against an untalented but impressively tenacious Bills team on Sunday, have the defense best equipped to contest with this high-flying Rams offense. The showdown, being FOX’s first Thursday Night game, will be hyped. The Vikings have played regular season contests on such stages before. The Rams have not.

Adversity could be on the immediate horizon. Still, it’s nothing compared to the type of adversity that comes from having a rebuilding offense, or a retooling defense. Or, certainly, from having an injured quarterback.

In 2012, the Broncos won the AFC West by a whopping six games. In 2015, the Panthers won the NFC South by seven games. In 2007, the undefeated Patriots won their division essentially two times over, finishing nine games ahead of the second-place Bills. The Rams, with some help from the NFC West, are positioned to join this group of dominators.

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