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A marvelous Seahawk game report by a gifted poster...
- By Rams43
- RAMS / NFL TALK
- 14 Replies
The poster is stlramz and he attends numerous Ram games. This is the latest in his 2018 series.
Here’s stlramz...
People sometimes forget a simple fact:
Seattle is a RIDICULOUSLY tough place to play.
From the field surface, to the unbelievable crowd noise, historically most teams that have traveled there over the last half decade leave with a loss. The Hawks are 38-10 since 2012. The Book of World Records twice certified that they were the loudest outdoor stadium in the NFL (now surpassed by KC) approaching 140 decibels.
Their fans understand situational football better than any stadium I have been at ever. They get deadly silent for their offense and they blow roof off for their defense.
Heading to Seattle, everyone knew what was at stake: Win and the Rams essentially put a hammerlock on the division with a 3.5 game lead after only 5 weeks. Lose and Seattle gets puffed up, a game behind with a tie breaker in hand. It’s the divisional standings equivalent of a 14 point swing in a ball game.
I figured the Hawks would be up for this one, having been humiliated at home the year before and the Rams publicly declaring that “they don’t feel pressure, THEY APPLY IT”. Todd Gurley publicly pronounced “we can’t be beat a mere days earlier”. It was the type of combination heading into the game that portends a tough battle.
I recall in 1999 how John Lynch was incredulous at Dick Vermiel’s remarks ahead of the Championship game that only the Rams could beat the Rams. He was getting his Bucs fired up by the purported “disrespectful statements” being made by Vermeil in advance of the game.
No doubt that similar discussions were occurring in the Pacific Northwest heading into what was clearly a “must win” game for the Hawks.
While I understood conceptually that this was going to be a tough game, I’ve had an eerie calm about this team since the preseason. Just looking up and down the roster, it feels a lot like 2001. Too many good players in too many important positions for any team to not seriously compete or be favored against anyone.
The difference, here, however, is that the “difference makers” also extend to the coaching staff. McVay, Kromer, Wade, Bones. So other than preparing some feigned “spontaneous insults” to be hurled at Seattle Super fan “Bob” aka “Our House”, I was pretty chill about going to the game, even allowing myself to envision another systematic dismantling of the hawks.
On the walk from the hotel to the stadium, it was clear that the Seattle fans were not feeling the same excessive arrogance they would normally display just hours before kickoff. In fact, it really appeared that many of them were downright concerned about what might happen.
Despite my son and I being fully decked in rams gear for the 1.2 mile walk to the stadium, not one comment was to be heard from ANYONE! The lone insult coming from a guy waiting for a light to turn green at a cross-walk then flipping me and my 7 year old off. We both laughed and waived at the guy as he drove away.
Just then we walked by a WWII memorial and my son spontaneously asks me how many Russian’s died in WWII? I said nobody really knows but probably at least 20 million. He asked me if they fought on our side and I told him that we were both fighting against the Nazi’s. I said, you know, for all the grief between our two countries, the Russian’s fighting in WWII was a big part of the eventual defeat of the Nazi’s.
Just as I am trying to have this serious historical moment with my kid, he says something which causes me to realize that my legacy as a fan is secure.
“Dad, that’s not the coolest thing the Russian’s have done you know?”
“Yeah, Michael, what was cooler than that?”
“Vladimir Putin stole Robert Kraft’s Super Bowl Ring”
BOOM!
“Mike! DUDE!
So just as I am having a real proud father moment, my phone buzzes. An old friend of mine from St. Louis who used to work for the Rams and now does radio work for the Seahawks, Christopher Taylor says: check your email.
I open my email:
Fieldaccess2.jpg
PREGAME FIELD PASSES.
WTF!!!!!
20 minutes later, my son and I find ourselves in a tunnel meeting with Guest Services who affix Red Pregame Field Access Passes on our jerseys.
As we are escorted on to the field, we are told that we would be “confined” from the rams bench around the endline to the goal posts. We are told not to bother the players with autograph requests and not to video anything but still photos were cool. A seahawks fan heading to the sideline with us tells me "if you come onto the field with us, you will have to cover your Rams jersey".
I said, "While I truly want to assist you with your PTSD, as your therapist explained the best deterrence is to avoid going to where the traumatic event happened in the first place . . . .
The guest services person tells the guy "you got to admit, that was a pretty good response".
They bring us to the sideline and tell us we can move about in this area until 15 minutes before kickoff. Our guest services escort leaves us around the 20 yard line.
I look up 2 feet in front of me. This is what I see:
Gurley1.jpg
I send the picture to a childhood ram fan who responds “are you seriously that close”.
My son and I are literally 2 feet away from Gurley as he warms up for 10 minutes.
Jake McQuaide, ever the gentleman comes over to my son to pay his respects:
JM.jpg
As close as I try and get to the players before the game, I have NEVER been that close. This gave me some additional insights that I really haven’t been able to personally witness other than through the occasional “WIRED” segments.
Both teams had absolute game faces on. Everyone understood what was a stake. A few of the Rams players got a bit heated with the Hawks players during the warm ups. Trash talking could be heard but it was the Rams who had the look of the Alpha Dog and the Seahawks as a challenger.
The trash talking made me think about Bob . . . but he was in the opposite corner, away from where I was allowed to move. I tried to find him with my binoculars and I did see him. His sign that last year said “Rookie Coach, Clueless QB, No Players” was noticeably missing. In its place, something to the effect that the Rams Coach looked like a High School PE Teacher.
In other words, Bob realized that his sign from last year was not only obsolete, it was down right inaccurate. His new sign – in many ways – was true. But his edge was gone. His sign was more “cute” than rude.
I have to say, I felt a tinge of sadness for the guy. He is on a sinking ship and he is a smart enough fan to know it. Given his sad new sign, I figure this is a good year to give the guy a break.
Goff came out and was warming up right in front of us. Saguaro pointed this out in a post about a week ago referencing the Vikings game. Goff now exudes confidence and leadership. You could see it crystal clear from up close. The players love and respect him.
He along with Todd are the clear-cut leaders of the offense with Big Whit serving as the “Godfather” overlooking it all. Anyone who doubts the types of leaders we have in Todd and Jared need only listen to the 60 second sound bite from Whit – he talks about how 16 and 30 are not only special players but they have become special leaders and cornerstones who, despite their being elite, are about everyone else and not themselves a quality he called “rare beyond rare”.
It is a beautiful thing to see how those players interact with the team and how they are received by the other players. Its something beautiful I noticed in Oakland and is probably more so now – These players know they are part of something special.
This is a “TEAM” in the genuine sense of the word and only a true team could have overcome what the Rams did on this rainy October day.
Though the scoreboard would make you think otherwise, this was – to this point – the most gratifying win of the season for me.
The seahawks came to play. Their fans and players knew what was a stake and they gave it absolutely everything they had. This was their season – their Super Bowl.
One could be disappointed at some of the breakdowns on defense – particularly with Marcus Peters, or one could stand in awe in what we overcame.
I choose awe.
Losing not one but both of your starting WRs, being with a back up kicker who has been with the team for a week, being without your first or second string returner or in the case of the punt return even our 3rd string returner, being without one of your top corners and without your top back up corner for most of the game, having the Refs make questionable calls across the board, ignoring holding calls, missing a Seattle player coming back in bounds on a TD play
and taking away several clear 1st downs at critical moments including what would be a game ender and still pulling off a "W" is nothing short of amazing.
Because of the forecast of rain, I took seats in the Loge section which are elevated but also under cover. They provided me an excellent vantage point to see just how beautiful this Rams offense is. Literally, and this came out even in the replay on TV, Rams players were running free regularly on nearly every series. Some of the pass completions, there weren't defenders within 3 yards of the receiver.
McVay is a genius. His play designs really do stress the hell out of a defense but more importantly eliminate my need to stress. We fall behind and within 3 plays, there we are within the opponents redzone threatening.
This offense is so good, there is almost no time to worry before we respond. Using Whit’s terminology “its Rare beyond Rare”. We’ve lived the opposite for so long, its almost like a dream being on the other side of it.
But even with all the greatness our offense showed, there were two moments in the game that told me that we are just scratching the surface.
10:34 to play in the game rams on their own 17 yard line. Score seahawks 31- Rams 30.
Our defense had just gotten the ball back despite struggling immensely. The game is stalled as we are on an obvious TV time out. They are playing a track in the stadium with a really heavy beat. I look in the rams offensive huddle with my binoculars looking to see what is going on.
The players a just grooving to the beat. Heads bobbing, bodies swaying, just biding their time on the commercial by enjoying the music.
My son even commented on how relaxed they were before such a pivotal drive.
They DO know how good they are. They not only believe but they actually KNOW they will score. 2 minutes later they are in FG position and 4 minutes later, they have the lead.
No time to worry. I like that.
When the Defense took the field and promptly allowed the Hawks to get to the 30 yard line – remarkably I still wasn’t worried.
I had just earlier listened to a radio program on meditation. The speaker described thoughts – good and bad –as cars passing by in your mind. You could get on them and take the bad thought wherever it was going or just watch it drive by.
I started seeing the thought that the Rams defense would not make the stop, without having any timeouts, and the hawks would kick a game winning FG.
I took the expert’s advice, accepted that this was the “car” with a “loser” thought in it and let it drive by in my mind and allowed the car with the good thoughts (that our offense can score at will be the car I would ride in).
I will say this about our defense, while their were breakdowns across the board, the biggies were obviously Peters getting smoked on multiple occasions, they rose up when they needed to and came close to several other big plays (nullified sacks and a sam shields near pick six) which could have changed the game.
From my standpoint, I don’t believe Peters is fully healthy. Its like he is playing his usual game of trying to bait a QB and his body simply can’t respond like it would normally. Its simply not possible for a player that good to drop off that badly. That said, MP would have had a pick six at the 3:47 mark in the 4th Q if Cory Littleton doesn’t bat up Wilson’s pass. He read the play right and was breaking on the ball.
As I mentioned in my write up from Oakland, Peters is a highly emotional player and it was on display again. Without Talib there to get into his face, its almost like none of the other DBs have the “juice” to get into Peters face. I really think Talib keeps MP more in check and is the only guy with enough standing to challenge Peters to his face - but I do credit most of his poor play by his body simply not being 100%.
Back to our offense – the stars of this show.
With the defense making the stop when it needed to, it was still up to the offense to put this away.
On the critical drive, it was patently clear that the refs were HOSING the rams in terms of ball placement. On the 2nd and 8 carry, one side judge had Gurley a full two feet past the first down marker and another one picked up the ball and moved it back behind the marker. It seemed like the Rams kept getting first downs and the refs kept putting it back.
Non-champions crumble with these types of bad breaks.
The rams did not crumble.
On the play that defined the game, with all of the marbles riding on the 4th and 1, with the crowd willing their defense to make just one more hold, the rams line – and particularly Rob Havenstein – a player who was the subject of much debate this week on this board - absolutely CRUMBLES the seattle defense and paves the way for Jared to burst through. (Yes, Rob is worth it!).
The entire Rams Offense – lead by big Rob is up, pumping their fists.
They knew what they did this day was special, even though some others do not.
You could see it on their faces and in their reactions.
They KNEW.
This was big.
Those who know, know.
A 3.5 game lead in the division after 5 weeks!
On my walk out, feeling special satisfaction at this win, I decided I would reserve the smack talk choosing instead to bestow “great game” comments on seahawks fans that appeared to be truly hurt by the loss. I wanted to show the class that Dick Vermeil said costs nothing.
That said, I'm no Dick Vermiel. . ..
When I hit the streets and joined with a large contingent of Rams fans joyously leaving the stadium, I couldn’t resist joining the chant . . . .started by some SHTT stirring rams fan:
WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR! Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap
WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR! Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap.
WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR! Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap
WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR! Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap.
Here’s stlramz...
People sometimes forget a simple fact:
Seattle is a RIDICULOUSLY tough place to play.
From the field surface, to the unbelievable crowd noise, historically most teams that have traveled there over the last half decade leave with a loss. The Hawks are 38-10 since 2012. The Book of World Records twice certified that they were the loudest outdoor stadium in the NFL (now surpassed by KC) approaching 140 decibels.
Their fans understand situational football better than any stadium I have been at ever. They get deadly silent for their offense and they blow roof off for their defense.
Heading to Seattle, everyone knew what was at stake: Win and the Rams essentially put a hammerlock on the division with a 3.5 game lead after only 5 weeks. Lose and Seattle gets puffed up, a game behind with a tie breaker in hand. It’s the divisional standings equivalent of a 14 point swing in a ball game.
I figured the Hawks would be up for this one, having been humiliated at home the year before and the Rams publicly declaring that “they don’t feel pressure, THEY APPLY IT”. Todd Gurley publicly pronounced “we can’t be beat a mere days earlier”. It was the type of combination heading into the game that portends a tough battle.
I recall in 1999 how John Lynch was incredulous at Dick Vermiel’s remarks ahead of the Championship game that only the Rams could beat the Rams. He was getting his Bucs fired up by the purported “disrespectful statements” being made by Vermeil in advance of the game.
No doubt that similar discussions were occurring in the Pacific Northwest heading into what was clearly a “must win” game for the Hawks.
While I understood conceptually that this was going to be a tough game, I’ve had an eerie calm about this team since the preseason. Just looking up and down the roster, it feels a lot like 2001. Too many good players in too many important positions for any team to not seriously compete or be favored against anyone.
The difference, here, however, is that the “difference makers” also extend to the coaching staff. McVay, Kromer, Wade, Bones. So other than preparing some feigned “spontaneous insults” to be hurled at Seattle Super fan “Bob” aka “Our House”, I was pretty chill about going to the game, even allowing myself to envision another systematic dismantling of the hawks.
On the walk from the hotel to the stadium, it was clear that the Seattle fans were not feeling the same excessive arrogance they would normally display just hours before kickoff. In fact, it really appeared that many of them were downright concerned about what might happen.
Despite my son and I being fully decked in rams gear for the 1.2 mile walk to the stadium, not one comment was to be heard from ANYONE! The lone insult coming from a guy waiting for a light to turn green at a cross-walk then flipping me and my 7 year old off. We both laughed and waived at the guy as he drove away.
Just then we walked by a WWII memorial and my son spontaneously asks me how many Russian’s died in WWII? I said nobody really knows but probably at least 20 million. He asked me if they fought on our side and I told him that we were both fighting against the Nazi’s. I said, you know, for all the grief between our two countries, the Russian’s fighting in WWII was a big part of the eventual defeat of the Nazi’s.
Just as I am trying to have this serious historical moment with my kid, he says something which causes me to realize that my legacy as a fan is secure.
“Dad, that’s not the coolest thing the Russian’s have done you know?”
“Yeah, Michael, what was cooler than that?”
“Vladimir Putin stole Robert Kraft’s Super Bowl Ring”
BOOM!
“Mike! DUDE!
So just as I am having a real proud father moment, my phone buzzes. An old friend of mine from St. Louis who used to work for the Rams and now does radio work for the Seahawks, Christopher Taylor says: check your email.
I open my email:
Fieldaccess2.jpg
PREGAME FIELD PASSES.
WTF!!!!!
20 minutes later, my son and I find ourselves in a tunnel meeting with Guest Services who affix Red Pregame Field Access Passes on our jerseys.
As we are escorted on to the field, we are told that we would be “confined” from the rams bench around the endline to the goal posts. We are told not to bother the players with autograph requests and not to video anything but still photos were cool. A seahawks fan heading to the sideline with us tells me "if you come onto the field with us, you will have to cover your Rams jersey".
I said, "While I truly want to assist you with your PTSD, as your therapist explained the best deterrence is to avoid going to where the traumatic event happened in the first place . . . .
The guest services person tells the guy "you got to admit, that was a pretty good response".
They bring us to the sideline and tell us we can move about in this area until 15 minutes before kickoff. Our guest services escort leaves us around the 20 yard line.
I look up 2 feet in front of me. This is what I see:
Gurley1.jpg
I send the picture to a childhood ram fan who responds “are you seriously that close”.
My son and I are literally 2 feet away from Gurley as he warms up for 10 minutes.
Jake McQuaide, ever the gentleman comes over to my son to pay his respects:
JM.jpg
As close as I try and get to the players before the game, I have NEVER been that close. This gave me some additional insights that I really haven’t been able to personally witness other than through the occasional “WIRED” segments.
Both teams had absolute game faces on. Everyone understood what was a stake. A few of the Rams players got a bit heated with the Hawks players during the warm ups. Trash talking could be heard but it was the Rams who had the look of the Alpha Dog and the Seahawks as a challenger.
The trash talking made me think about Bob . . . but he was in the opposite corner, away from where I was allowed to move. I tried to find him with my binoculars and I did see him. His sign that last year said “Rookie Coach, Clueless QB, No Players” was noticeably missing. In its place, something to the effect that the Rams Coach looked like a High School PE Teacher.
In other words, Bob realized that his sign from last year was not only obsolete, it was down right inaccurate. His new sign – in many ways – was true. But his edge was gone. His sign was more “cute” than rude.
I have to say, I felt a tinge of sadness for the guy. He is on a sinking ship and he is a smart enough fan to know it. Given his sad new sign, I figure this is a good year to give the guy a break.
Goff came out and was warming up right in front of us. Saguaro pointed this out in a post about a week ago referencing the Vikings game. Goff now exudes confidence and leadership. You could see it crystal clear from up close. The players love and respect him.
He along with Todd are the clear-cut leaders of the offense with Big Whit serving as the “Godfather” overlooking it all. Anyone who doubts the types of leaders we have in Todd and Jared need only listen to the 60 second sound bite from Whit – he talks about how 16 and 30 are not only special players but they have become special leaders and cornerstones who, despite their being elite, are about everyone else and not themselves a quality he called “rare beyond rare”.
It is a beautiful thing to see how those players interact with the team and how they are received by the other players. Its something beautiful I noticed in Oakland and is probably more so now – These players know they are part of something special.
This is a “TEAM” in the genuine sense of the word and only a true team could have overcome what the Rams did on this rainy October day.
Though the scoreboard would make you think otherwise, this was – to this point – the most gratifying win of the season for me.
The seahawks came to play. Their fans and players knew what was a stake and they gave it absolutely everything they had. This was their season – their Super Bowl.
One could be disappointed at some of the breakdowns on defense – particularly with Marcus Peters, or one could stand in awe in what we overcame.
I choose awe.
Losing not one but both of your starting WRs, being with a back up kicker who has been with the team for a week, being without your first or second string returner or in the case of the punt return even our 3rd string returner, being without one of your top corners and without your top back up corner for most of the game, having the Refs make questionable calls across the board, ignoring holding calls, missing a Seattle player coming back in bounds on a TD play
and taking away several clear 1st downs at critical moments including what would be a game ender and still pulling off a "W" is nothing short of amazing.
Because of the forecast of rain, I took seats in the Loge section which are elevated but also under cover. They provided me an excellent vantage point to see just how beautiful this Rams offense is. Literally, and this came out even in the replay on TV, Rams players were running free regularly on nearly every series. Some of the pass completions, there weren't defenders within 3 yards of the receiver.
McVay is a genius. His play designs really do stress the hell out of a defense but more importantly eliminate my need to stress. We fall behind and within 3 plays, there we are within the opponents redzone threatening.
This offense is so good, there is almost no time to worry before we respond. Using Whit’s terminology “its Rare beyond Rare”. We’ve lived the opposite for so long, its almost like a dream being on the other side of it.
But even with all the greatness our offense showed, there were two moments in the game that told me that we are just scratching the surface.
10:34 to play in the game rams on their own 17 yard line. Score seahawks 31- Rams 30.
Our defense had just gotten the ball back despite struggling immensely. The game is stalled as we are on an obvious TV time out. They are playing a track in the stadium with a really heavy beat. I look in the rams offensive huddle with my binoculars looking to see what is going on.
The players a just grooving to the beat. Heads bobbing, bodies swaying, just biding their time on the commercial by enjoying the music.
My son even commented on how relaxed they were before such a pivotal drive.
They DO know how good they are. They not only believe but they actually KNOW they will score. 2 minutes later they are in FG position and 4 minutes later, they have the lead.
No time to worry. I like that.
When the Defense took the field and promptly allowed the Hawks to get to the 30 yard line – remarkably I still wasn’t worried.
I had just earlier listened to a radio program on meditation. The speaker described thoughts – good and bad –as cars passing by in your mind. You could get on them and take the bad thought wherever it was going or just watch it drive by.
I started seeing the thought that the Rams defense would not make the stop, without having any timeouts, and the hawks would kick a game winning FG.
I took the expert’s advice, accepted that this was the “car” with a “loser” thought in it and let it drive by in my mind and allowed the car with the good thoughts (that our offense can score at will be the car I would ride in).
I will say this about our defense, while their were breakdowns across the board, the biggies were obviously Peters getting smoked on multiple occasions, they rose up when they needed to and came close to several other big plays (nullified sacks and a sam shields near pick six) which could have changed the game.
From my standpoint, I don’t believe Peters is fully healthy. Its like he is playing his usual game of trying to bait a QB and his body simply can’t respond like it would normally. Its simply not possible for a player that good to drop off that badly. That said, MP would have had a pick six at the 3:47 mark in the 4th Q if Cory Littleton doesn’t bat up Wilson’s pass. He read the play right and was breaking on the ball.
As I mentioned in my write up from Oakland, Peters is a highly emotional player and it was on display again. Without Talib there to get into his face, its almost like none of the other DBs have the “juice” to get into Peters face. I really think Talib keeps MP more in check and is the only guy with enough standing to challenge Peters to his face - but I do credit most of his poor play by his body simply not being 100%.
Back to our offense – the stars of this show.
With the defense making the stop when it needed to, it was still up to the offense to put this away.
On the critical drive, it was patently clear that the refs were HOSING the rams in terms of ball placement. On the 2nd and 8 carry, one side judge had Gurley a full two feet past the first down marker and another one picked up the ball and moved it back behind the marker. It seemed like the Rams kept getting first downs and the refs kept putting it back.
Non-champions crumble with these types of bad breaks.
The rams did not crumble.
On the play that defined the game, with all of the marbles riding on the 4th and 1, with the crowd willing their defense to make just one more hold, the rams line – and particularly Rob Havenstein – a player who was the subject of much debate this week on this board - absolutely CRUMBLES the seattle defense and paves the way for Jared to burst through. (Yes, Rob is worth it!).
The entire Rams Offense – lead by big Rob is up, pumping their fists.
They knew what they did this day was special, even though some others do not.
You could see it on their faces and in their reactions.
They KNEW.
This was big.
Those who know, know.
A 3.5 game lead in the division after 5 weeks!
On my walk out, feeling special satisfaction at this win, I decided I would reserve the smack talk choosing instead to bestow “great game” comments on seahawks fans that appeared to be truly hurt by the loss. I wanted to show the class that Dick Vermeil said costs nothing.
That said, I'm no Dick Vermiel. . ..
When I hit the streets and joined with a large contingent of Rams fans joyously leaving the stadium, I couldn’t resist joining the chant . . . .started by some SHTT stirring rams fan:
WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR! Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap
WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR! Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap.
WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR! Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap
WAIT TILL NEXT YEAR! Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap.
NFL Franchise Quarterback Re-Draft: In Which Order Would They Be Picked?
- By Prime Time
- RAMS / NFL TALK
- 20 Replies
https://www.barstoolsports.com/bars...-re-draft-in-which-order-would-they-be-picked
NFL Franchise Quarterback Re-Draft: In Which Order Would They Be Picked?
Ohios Tate
So the question I have is, if you had to start your franchise right now, which quarterback would you like to have? Forget the team he’s on. Forget which spot in the draft he went. Which of these young quarterbacks would go #1 overall in a league wide redraft?
To complete the exercise , I kept all quarterbacks out that were 30 29 (a couple were 29) or older to emphasize that we are looking to the future and hoping to get a 15-year franchise quarterback. These are the QBs in the league right now that are unavailable:
I think it would be interesting to include these guys at some point too though. If we’re looking for franchise quarterbacks, where does 34-year-old Aaron Rodgers get picked? He probably still has 5-7 more years left in him. I also think Cam Newton and maybe Russell Wilson would probably get picked pretty high and Andrew Luck may go #1 overall.
They’re only 29 years old, but I wanted to make this about the plethora of quarterbacks that have been selected in the past couple years, not the 7 year veterans. Taking out these 17 veterans left us with these 16 young quarterbacks to select from:
Okay let’s rank them from 16 to 1, based on who would go #1 overall in a redraft for teams to get their franchise quarterback for the next 10-15 years.
16. Blake Bortles (#3 overall pick in 2014)
Sorry PMT boys. I am a huge BOAT fan as well, but if you’re talking about giving the keys to the franchise to any of the 16 young quarterbacks in the league, Blake is definitely the last to get selected. And that is not to say that he is a bad quarterback.
He led the Jaguars to the AFC Championship game last year and damn near the Super Bowl, but his 4 interception performance in this past weeks drubbing at Kansas City showed that inconsistent quarterback play is keeping them from being serious contenders.
15. Dak Prescott (4th round – #135 overall in 2016)
What a difference a couple years can make. If you would’ve done this after the 2016 season, Prescott would have gone near the very top. After a Tony Romo injury in the preseason, Prescott took over to lead the Cowboys to a 13-3 record, clinching the NFL East Title and being named the Offensive Rookie of the Year. Now, Prescott appears to be on the hot seat as the Cowboys are 2-3, and he hasn’t thrown for 300 yards in 26 of his last 27 starts.
14. Jameis Winston (#1 overall pick in 2015)
This low ranking doesn’t have much to do at all with his on the field abilities. Winston is clearly talented, however he may not be as talented as we once though. Through multiple injuries to the same shoulder last year, Winston led the Bucs to a 5-11 record. The reason he is all the way down at 14 though is because of his off the field issues.
People scrutinized him for his character at Florida State, with his immature actions and also his crab leg incident. Now, in the NFL, Winston missed the Bucs first three games this year due to an alleged groping incident involving a female Uber driver. Winston seems to be playing with two strikes now, meaning that one more issue and he may be released for off-the-field problems.
13. Lamar Jackson (#32 overall pick in 2018)
Lamar Jackson is the only one on this list that has not received significant playing time in the NFL, as he is currently the understudy of once elite Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco. But after a 56 throw, 29 completion, 0 TD and 1 INT performance on Sunday against the Cleveland Browns, many are calling for Jackson to be inserted for more than gadget plays in the Ravens stale offense.
The Ravens are 3-2 though, so a change is unlikely. It is tough to gauge Jackson’s performance thus far, as he is 1-5 for 24 yards right now. Jackson’s athleticism, arm, and playmaking abilities still show lots of potential going forward.
12. Mitchell Trubisky (#2 overall pick in 2017)
I refuse to be a prisoner of the moment when looking at the Bears 3-1 start or at Trubisky’s 6 touchdown performance against a God awful Bucs defense. Good for the Bears, good for Big Cat, and good for Khalil Mack. But Trubisky was much closer to bad than good in his first 15 games as an NFL quarterback.
He finished his rookie year 4-8 as a starter, throwing for 7 touchdowns and 7 interceptions. Tribusky may continue to trend upwards with the rise of the Bears, but he still would go 12th if a redraft happened today. Anything higher would be a stretch, just like his #2 overall pick was in 2017.
11. Marcus Mariota (#2 overall pick in 2015)
How many injuries does it take before a player is labeled injury prone? Mariota’s season ended in Week 15 of his rookie year, as he sprained his MCL against the Patriots. In his second year, he fractured his right fibia in Week 16, putting him on the shelf again. This year, Mariota was forced to leave his first start and miss game number two with an elbow injury. But if he can figure out how to dodge the injury bug, he has had flashes of being a solid franchise quarterback.
Mariota’s talent has been on display since entering the league in 2015, starting with his very first ever game. His first career pass was a 52-yard touchdown, and he ended his first game with a perfect passer rating of 158.3. He had six 4-touchdown games in his first two seasons. In fact, his 3rd season was his worst statistically, when he led the Titans to their first playoff appearance since 2008. A fully healthy Marcus Mariota can play. An injured one obviously cannot.
10. Josh Rosen (#10 overall pick in 2018)
Rosen began his NFL playing career in Week 3, as he entered into the game for Sam Bradford with 4 minutes remaining against the Bears. He was named the starter for the Cardinals in Week 4, losing his 1st start to the Seahawks 20-17. This past week, Rosen led the Cards to a 28-18 win over the 49ers, a game in which he only completed 10 of 25 passes for 170 yards and a score.
He certainly missed his fair share of throws in the game, but the sample size is too small to make an official judgement on Rosen. The NFL loves to draft based on potential anyways, so he’d still get drafted in the top 10 from his impressive skill set.
9. Derek Carr (2nd round – #36 overall in 2014)
Derek Carr, Jon Gruden, and the Oakland Raiders are off to a 1-4 start, and their offense has lacked the firepower that many hoped they would have. Carr deserves some of the blame as the quarterback, but their offensive line has been terrible, too. Regardless, leading up to this season, Carr has shown consistent improvement each year, earning the respect of players around the league. After 53 touchdown passes through two seasons, Carr sat only behind Hall of Famer Dan Marino in TDs through two years.
He was ranked the 100th best overall player by his NFL colleagues after the 2015 season. After a 2016 season in which he was 12-3 as a starter until losing the rest of his season to a leg injury, Carr moved up to #11 in the league’s rankings. 2017 was a third straight Pro-Bowl for Carr, but a 6-10 season left much to be desired in Oakland. The story is still out on Carr, but his arm and numbers have shown very impressive signs.
8. Josh Allen (#7 overall pick in 2018)
Josh Allen is tall and has a rocket arm. The same reasons he was a top 10 pick in this year’s NFL draft is the same reason he’d be a top 10 pick in this draft. The Bills have had to throw him into the fire quicker than they wished, as it turned out that Nathan Peterman did in fact stink like the rest of us thought. Allen is 2-2 as a starter, and he’s had great showings and very poor showings.
He led the Bills to a 27-6 win over the Vikings in Minnesota, knocking out half the world from their survivor pools. He also lost 22-0 to the Packers. Regardless, his 64 yard completion to Zay Jones in Week 2 traveled 57 yards in the air, the 2nd longest in NextGen stat history. Allen deserves a top 10 pick.
7. Sam Darnold (#3 overall pick in 2018)
Sam Darnold’s first ever NFL pass went for a touchdown. Unfortunately the points counted for the other team, as Quandre Diggs ran it back for a Pick 6. From there, Darnold’s debut was very impressive, throwing for 198 yards and 2 scores in a 48-17 victory on Monday Night Football. The rookie’s first five games have had their share of ups and downs.
The Jets are 2-3, and Darnold’s performances have been anything from a 48% completion percentage, 0 TDs, and 2 picks versus the Browns to 3 touchdowns this past weekend in a 34-16 win over the Broncos. The quarterback’s impressive skill set has made him a high prospect his entire life, and nothing would change in a redraft.
6. Deshaun Watson (#12 overall pick in 2017)
Before going down with a torn ACL during a non-contact portion of practice in November of 2017, Watson had taken the NFL by storm in his 7 career games and 6 starts. Entering the game when Tom Savage was benched in a Week 1 loss to the Jaguars, Deshaun went on to throw for 1,700 passing yards with 19 touchdowns and 8 interceptions over the next six and a half games.
His 16 touchdowns in October earned his AFC Offensive Player of the Month. The Texans currently sit at 2-3 in the AFC South this year, so the league certainly isn’t Watsons yet. But the energy and excitement that he brought in that stretch of games last year showed us enough to put him near the top of the re-draft.
5. Jimmy Garoppolo (2nd round – #62 overall in 2014)
At the end of the 2017 season, Jimmy G probably would have gone #1 overall in this draft. His stock was so hot with a career record 0f 7-0 as a starter, and supposedly knowing all the secrets of the Patriots and Tom Brady’s success, that the 49ers signed him to a 5-year deal worth $137.5 million.
Flash forward about 8 months and Garoppolo in now sidelined with a season-ending ACL injury. The road to recovery should not impact the long term of his career, but it’s tough to draft him any higher right now.
4. Jared Goff (#1 overall pick in 2016)
I’m not sure if I’m more obsessed with the Rams or more impressed with Goff. If you throw Goff onto another team, does he still have these numbers? As a rookie, Goff lost all 7 of his starts. In his 2nd year, with new head coach Sean McVay, Goff went 10-5 as a starter in the regular season, clinching the NFC West and sitting out in Week 17.
Now the Rams are 5-0 and look to be the most dominant team in the NFL. Does Goff owe his success to his teammates and his superstar young head coach? That would be the question that franchises would have to ask themselves.
3. Carson Wentz (#2 overall pick in 2016)
This may be a controversial selection putting him all the way up here, especially with the fact that he has struggled this year coming off ACL surgery that kept him out of the playoffs and Super Bowl run last year. In fact, my boss thinks the Eagles should bench him.
However, after a 7-9 rookie campaign, Wentz had the Eagles sitting at 11-2 last season before going down with an injury. The Eagles proved to be a very good team without him, but I think Wentz goes at 3 regardless.
2. Baker Mayfield (#1 overall pick in 2018)
Man it’s tough not for me to put him at #1. I can tell you that if the Browns were picking 1st overall, which they oftentimes do, then Baker would still be the #1 selection. He has electrified a city that so desperately needed it, and he has won games! The Browns are 2-1 since he started playing, with their only loss coming at the hands of the NFL referees in Oakland.
The sample size isn’t huge, and Baker hasn’t necessarily been great, but I truly feel that if left up to Wentz, Goff, or Mayfield, teams would go Mayfield based on the excitement he’s brought. What would the Rams record be with Mayfield at QB? 5-0. What would the Browns record be with Goff? I’m not sure they’re 2-2-1.
1. Patrick Mahomes (10th overall pick in 2017)
Can’t go with anyone else right now, could you? The second year quarterback is 6-0 in his career as a starter, and he is a 2/1 favorite in the MVP race right now. The Chiefs decided to trade Alex Smith in the off-season and hand the keys over to Mahomes. Looks pretty smart at the moment.
NFL Franchise Quarterback Re-Draft: In Which Order Would They Be Picked?
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So the question I have is, if you had to start your franchise right now, which quarterback would you like to have? Forget the team he’s on. Forget which spot in the draft he went. Which of these young quarterbacks would go #1 overall in a league wide redraft?
To complete the exercise , I kept all quarterbacks out that were 30 29 (a couple were 29) or older to emphasize that we are looking to the future and hoping to get a 15-year franchise quarterback. These are the QBs in the league right now that are unavailable:
I think it would be interesting to include these guys at some point too though. If we’re looking for franchise quarterbacks, where does 34-year-old Aaron Rodgers get picked? He probably still has 5-7 more years left in him. I also think Cam Newton and maybe Russell Wilson would probably get picked pretty high and Andrew Luck may go #1 overall.
They’re only 29 years old, but I wanted to make this about the plethora of quarterbacks that have been selected in the past couple years, not the 7 year veterans. Taking out these 17 veterans left us with these 16 young quarterbacks to select from:
Okay let’s rank them from 16 to 1, based on who would go #1 overall in a redraft for teams to get their franchise quarterback for the next 10-15 years.
16. Blake Bortles (#3 overall pick in 2014)
Sorry PMT boys. I am a huge BOAT fan as well, but if you’re talking about giving the keys to the franchise to any of the 16 young quarterbacks in the league, Blake is definitely the last to get selected. And that is not to say that he is a bad quarterback.
He led the Jaguars to the AFC Championship game last year and damn near the Super Bowl, but his 4 interception performance in this past weeks drubbing at Kansas City showed that inconsistent quarterback play is keeping them from being serious contenders.
15. Dak Prescott (4th round – #135 overall in 2016)
What a difference a couple years can make. If you would’ve done this after the 2016 season, Prescott would have gone near the very top. After a Tony Romo injury in the preseason, Prescott took over to lead the Cowboys to a 13-3 record, clinching the NFL East Title and being named the Offensive Rookie of the Year. Now, Prescott appears to be on the hot seat as the Cowboys are 2-3, and he hasn’t thrown for 300 yards in 26 of his last 27 starts.
14. Jameis Winston (#1 overall pick in 2015)
This low ranking doesn’t have much to do at all with his on the field abilities. Winston is clearly talented, however he may not be as talented as we once though. Through multiple injuries to the same shoulder last year, Winston led the Bucs to a 5-11 record. The reason he is all the way down at 14 though is because of his off the field issues.
People scrutinized him for his character at Florida State, with his immature actions and also his crab leg incident. Now, in the NFL, Winston missed the Bucs first three games this year due to an alleged groping incident involving a female Uber driver. Winston seems to be playing with two strikes now, meaning that one more issue and he may be released for off-the-field problems.
13. Lamar Jackson (#32 overall pick in 2018)
Lamar Jackson is the only one on this list that has not received significant playing time in the NFL, as he is currently the understudy of once elite Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco. But after a 56 throw, 29 completion, 0 TD and 1 INT performance on Sunday against the Cleveland Browns, many are calling for Jackson to be inserted for more than gadget plays in the Ravens stale offense.
The Ravens are 3-2 though, so a change is unlikely. It is tough to gauge Jackson’s performance thus far, as he is 1-5 for 24 yards right now. Jackson’s athleticism, arm, and playmaking abilities still show lots of potential going forward.
12. Mitchell Trubisky (#2 overall pick in 2017)
I refuse to be a prisoner of the moment when looking at the Bears 3-1 start or at Trubisky’s 6 touchdown performance against a God awful Bucs defense. Good for the Bears, good for Big Cat, and good for Khalil Mack. But Trubisky was much closer to bad than good in his first 15 games as an NFL quarterback.
He finished his rookie year 4-8 as a starter, throwing for 7 touchdowns and 7 interceptions. Tribusky may continue to trend upwards with the rise of the Bears, but he still would go 12th if a redraft happened today. Anything higher would be a stretch, just like his #2 overall pick was in 2017.
11. Marcus Mariota (#2 overall pick in 2015)
How many injuries does it take before a player is labeled injury prone? Mariota’s season ended in Week 15 of his rookie year, as he sprained his MCL against the Patriots. In his second year, he fractured his right fibia in Week 16, putting him on the shelf again. This year, Mariota was forced to leave his first start and miss game number two with an elbow injury. But if he can figure out how to dodge the injury bug, he has had flashes of being a solid franchise quarterback.
Mariota’s talent has been on display since entering the league in 2015, starting with his very first ever game. His first career pass was a 52-yard touchdown, and he ended his first game with a perfect passer rating of 158.3. He had six 4-touchdown games in his first two seasons. In fact, his 3rd season was his worst statistically, when he led the Titans to their first playoff appearance since 2008. A fully healthy Marcus Mariota can play. An injured one obviously cannot.
10. Josh Rosen (#10 overall pick in 2018)
Rosen began his NFL playing career in Week 3, as he entered into the game for Sam Bradford with 4 minutes remaining against the Bears. He was named the starter for the Cardinals in Week 4, losing his 1st start to the Seahawks 20-17. This past week, Rosen led the Cards to a 28-18 win over the 49ers, a game in which he only completed 10 of 25 passes for 170 yards and a score.
He certainly missed his fair share of throws in the game, but the sample size is too small to make an official judgement on Rosen. The NFL loves to draft based on potential anyways, so he’d still get drafted in the top 10 from his impressive skill set.
9. Derek Carr (2nd round – #36 overall in 2014)
Derek Carr, Jon Gruden, and the Oakland Raiders are off to a 1-4 start, and their offense has lacked the firepower that many hoped they would have. Carr deserves some of the blame as the quarterback, but their offensive line has been terrible, too. Regardless, leading up to this season, Carr has shown consistent improvement each year, earning the respect of players around the league. After 53 touchdown passes through two seasons, Carr sat only behind Hall of Famer Dan Marino in TDs through two years.
He was ranked the 100th best overall player by his NFL colleagues after the 2015 season. After a 2016 season in which he was 12-3 as a starter until losing the rest of his season to a leg injury, Carr moved up to #11 in the league’s rankings. 2017 was a third straight Pro-Bowl for Carr, but a 6-10 season left much to be desired in Oakland. The story is still out on Carr, but his arm and numbers have shown very impressive signs.
8. Josh Allen (#7 overall pick in 2018)
Josh Allen is tall and has a rocket arm. The same reasons he was a top 10 pick in this year’s NFL draft is the same reason he’d be a top 10 pick in this draft. The Bills have had to throw him into the fire quicker than they wished, as it turned out that Nathan Peterman did in fact stink like the rest of us thought. Allen is 2-2 as a starter, and he’s had great showings and very poor showings.
He led the Bills to a 27-6 win over the Vikings in Minnesota, knocking out half the world from their survivor pools. He also lost 22-0 to the Packers. Regardless, his 64 yard completion to Zay Jones in Week 2 traveled 57 yards in the air, the 2nd longest in NextGen stat history. Allen deserves a top 10 pick.
7. Sam Darnold (#3 overall pick in 2018)
Sam Darnold’s first ever NFL pass went for a touchdown. Unfortunately the points counted for the other team, as Quandre Diggs ran it back for a Pick 6. From there, Darnold’s debut was very impressive, throwing for 198 yards and 2 scores in a 48-17 victory on Monday Night Football. The rookie’s first five games have had their share of ups and downs.
The Jets are 2-3, and Darnold’s performances have been anything from a 48% completion percentage, 0 TDs, and 2 picks versus the Browns to 3 touchdowns this past weekend in a 34-16 win over the Broncos. The quarterback’s impressive skill set has made him a high prospect his entire life, and nothing would change in a redraft.
6. Deshaun Watson (#12 overall pick in 2017)
Before going down with a torn ACL during a non-contact portion of practice in November of 2017, Watson had taken the NFL by storm in his 7 career games and 6 starts. Entering the game when Tom Savage was benched in a Week 1 loss to the Jaguars, Deshaun went on to throw for 1,700 passing yards with 19 touchdowns and 8 interceptions over the next six and a half games.
His 16 touchdowns in October earned his AFC Offensive Player of the Month. The Texans currently sit at 2-3 in the AFC South this year, so the league certainly isn’t Watsons yet. But the energy and excitement that he brought in that stretch of games last year showed us enough to put him near the top of the re-draft.
5. Jimmy Garoppolo (2nd round – #62 overall in 2014)
At the end of the 2017 season, Jimmy G probably would have gone #1 overall in this draft. His stock was so hot with a career record 0f 7-0 as a starter, and supposedly knowing all the secrets of the Patriots and Tom Brady’s success, that the 49ers signed him to a 5-year deal worth $137.5 million.
Flash forward about 8 months and Garoppolo in now sidelined with a season-ending ACL injury. The road to recovery should not impact the long term of his career, but it’s tough to draft him any higher right now.
4. Jared Goff (#1 overall pick in 2016)
I’m not sure if I’m more obsessed with the Rams or more impressed with Goff. If you throw Goff onto another team, does he still have these numbers? As a rookie, Goff lost all 7 of his starts. In his 2nd year, with new head coach Sean McVay, Goff went 10-5 as a starter in the regular season, clinching the NFC West and sitting out in Week 17.
Now the Rams are 5-0 and look to be the most dominant team in the NFL. Does Goff owe his success to his teammates and his superstar young head coach? That would be the question that franchises would have to ask themselves.
3. Carson Wentz (#2 overall pick in 2016)
This may be a controversial selection putting him all the way up here, especially with the fact that he has struggled this year coming off ACL surgery that kept him out of the playoffs and Super Bowl run last year. In fact, my boss thinks the Eagles should bench him.
However, after a 7-9 rookie campaign, Wentz had the Eagles sitting at 11-2 last season before going down with an injury. The Eagles proved to be a very good team without him, but I think Wentz goes at 3 regardless.
2. Baker Mayfield (#1 overall pick in 2018)
Man it’s tough not for me to put him at #1. I can tell you that if the Browns were picking 1st overall, which they oftentimes do, then Baker would still be the #1 selection. He has electrified a city that so desperately needed it, and he has won games! The Browns are 2-1 since he started playing, with their only loss coming at the hands of the NFL referees in Oakland.
The sample size isn’t huge, and Baker hasn’t necessarily been great, but I truly feel that if left up to Wentz, Goff, or Mayfield, teams would go Mayfield based on the excitement he’s brought. What would the Rams record be with Mayfield at QB? 5-0. What would the Browns record be with Goff? I’m not sure they’re 2-2-1.
1. Patrick Mahomes (10th overall pick in 2017)
Can’t go with anyone else right now, could you? The second year quarterback is 6-0 in his career as a starter, and he is a 2/1 favorite in the MVP race right now. The Chiefs decided to trade Alex Smith in the off-season and hand the keys over to Mahomes. Looks pretty smart at the moment.
Cupp and Kooks might play Sunday
- By RhodyRams
- RAMS / NFL TALK
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misspelling done on purpose..lighten up !!!
Rams 'hopeful' to get Brandin Cooks, Cooper Kupp back Sunday
10:08 PM ET
Los Angeles Rams coach Sean McVay left open the possibility on Monday that receivers Brandin Cooks and Cooper Kupp could clear concussion protocol in time to play against the Denver Broncos.
"They felt good today," McVay told reporters at the Rams' training facility. "They didn't have any symptoms or anything like that, so we'll go through the standing operating procedure and if everything checks out with our guys and with the doctors that are part of that process then we are hopeful to get these guys this week."
Cooks and Kupp entered the concussion protocol during the first half of Sunday's 33-31 victory over the Seattle Seahawks.
Cooks suffered a concussion in the second quarter after he caught an 18-yard pass that he went on to fumble when he was hit by safety Tedric Thompson. The play was nullified by a defensive holding penalty. The collision between Cooks and Thompson appeared to be helmet-to-helmet, but no flag was thrown.
McVay said he would seek clarification from the league about the play.
"I don't think there was any malicious intent on it," McVay said. "But there are things that are always geared toward the safety of the players and any of those head-to-head contact collisions are things that we want to try to avoid and that's something that they made a big point of."
McVay said that Kupp suffered the concussion in the two-minute drill to end the first half when he split two defenders for an 11-yard reception and appeared to hit his head on the ground when he was tackled by linebacker Barkevious Mingo. Kupp played the ensuing five snaps to end the half.
"To his credit, he was able to communicate to us that he wasn't feeling quite normal," McVay said.
Kupp finished with six catches for 90 yards and a touchdown. Cooks did not have a reception.
Second-year pro Josh Reynolds and undrafted rookie KhaDarel Hodge took over in their absence. Reynolds, a fourth-round pick from Texas A&M, had two catches for 39 yards and rushed for 10 yards on one carry. Hodge, from Prairie View A&M, had one catch for 14 yards.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-angeles-rams-return-sunday-vs-denver-broncos
Rams 'hopeful' to get Brandin Cooks, Cooper Kupp back Sunday
10:08 PM ET
Lindsey ThiryESPN
Los Angeles Rams coach Sean McVay left open the possibility on Monday that receivers Brandin Cooks and Cooper Kupp could clear concussion protocol in time to play against the Denver Broncos.
"They felt good today," McVay told reporters at the Rams' training facility. "They didn't have any symptoms or anything like that, so we'll go through the standing operating procedure and if everything checks out with our guys and with the doctors that are part of that process then we are hopeful to get these guys this week."
Cooks and Kupp entered the concussion protocol during the first half of Sunday's 33-31 victory over the Seattle Seahawks.
Cooks suffered a concussion in the second quarter after he caught an 18-yard pass that he went on to fumble when he was hit by safety Tedric Thompson. The play was nullified by a defensive holding penalty. The collision between Cooks and Thompson appeared to be helmet-to-helmet, but no flag was thrown.
McVay said he would seek clarification from the league about the play.
"I don't think there was any malicious intent on it," McVay said. "But there are things that are always geared toward the safety of the players and any of those head-to-head contact collisions are things that we want to try to avoid and that's something that they made a big point of."
McVay said that Kupp suffered the concussion in the two-minute drill to end the first half when he split two defenders for an 11-yard reception and appeared to hit his head on the ground when he was tackled by linebacker Barkevious Mingo. Kupp played the ensuing five snaps to end the half.
"To his credit, he was able to communicate to us that he wasn't feeling quite normal," McVay said.
Kupp finished with six catches for 90 yards and a touchdown. Cooks did not have a reception.
Second-year pro Josh Reynolds and undrafted rookie KhaDarel Hodge took over in their absence. Reynolds, a fourth-round pick from Texas A&M, had two catches for 39 yards and rushed for 10 yards on one carry. Hodge, from Prairie View A&M, had one catch for 14 yards.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-angeles-rams-return-sunday-vs-denver-broncos
Send your advice... I'm probably going to need it!
- By RamFanWA
- RAMS / NFL TALK
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So, my daughter was slinging words the other night, that if I really liked her, I'd take her to a football game... Well, that was the day of the Rams-Hawks game, so likely that wasn't happening Sunday... and we have joked around about catching the Rams at home... Fast forward a couple of days... So - with Seattle going down there (from the Portland area, LA is "down there..") we just might make this work. She'll have the Seahawk jersey... hopefully, I can still squeeze into the Gurley jersey! (TGIII, I ain't!)!!
So, between game seats, a hotel and airline tickets that is a rather tall commitment for a football game (well, for some it is, for others, well, chump change...). But hey, it is father-daughter time... can't put a price on that! (and she is not a 10 year old or anything... she is 30 and I am old enough to retire - just not rich enough yet!
). So - if there is any advice that you think I could use to improve the experience, throw it down! Where would you purchase tickets from - what is a "good location" versus some other location.... (LA side, visitor side?) and so on. Probably looking to spend about $300 for a pair of seats..... you got insight on that - that'd be great.
I'll probably be a lot more jacked up around November 10th!! HA-hA!!
So, between game seats, a hotel and airline tickets that is a rather tall commitment for a football game (well, for some it is, for others, well, chump change...). But hey, it is father-daughter time... can't put a price on that! (and she is not a 10 year old or anything... she is 30 and I am old enough to retire - just not rich enough yet!
). So - if there is any advice that you think I could use to improve the experience, throw it down! Where would you purchase tickets from - what is a "good location" versus some other location.... (LA side, visitor side?) and so on. Probably looking to spend about $300 for a pair of seats..... you got insight on that - that'd be great.I'll probably be a lot more jacked up around November 10th!! HA-hA!!
Week 6 power rankings
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24933106/nfl-power-rankings-picking-toughest-games-all-32-teams
1. Los Angeles Rams
Record: 5-0
Week 5 ranking: 1
Rest-of-season SOS ranking: 16th. The Rams' toughest remaining game is Week 9 at the Saints, where they have a 57 percent chance to win, according to FPI. The Rams are the only team in the NFL favored to win all of their remaining games.
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https://www.sbnation.com/2018/10/9/...ders-fall-rams-chiefs-saints-bengals-panthers
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/.../nfl/.../week-6-nfl-power-rankings.../1562414002
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http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/...kings-jaguars-2018/17avqnhz188bv1eoefx2tm92pd
1. Los Angeles Rams 5-0 (last week: 1)
The defense struggled in Seattle, and the offense lost both Brandin Cooks and Cooper Kupp to concussions, but Todd Gurley was there to play the closer role again in a big away. He’s a pretty good ace in the hole to have.
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1 - Kansas City Chiefs (Last Week: 1) - Andy Reid’s team continues to look unstoppable.
2 - Los Angeles Rams (LW: 2) - Los Angeles looked the most vulnerable they have all season. But they still won by two points in Seattle anyway.
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https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2018...t-lions-cincinnati-bengals-new-orleans-saints
1. Los Angeles Rams (5-0; won 33-31 vs SEA) (- No change from last week)
“Jared Goff is not a system quarterback.”
I know the narrative died down a little bit after the Vikings game, but in case you still happen to believe it, it’s just not true. He has a great arm and he’s incredibly accurate. While the offensive scheme is amazing the Rams still need someone to make all of the amazing throws that Goff can.
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles...consensus-rank-for-every-team-entering-week-6
1. Los Angeles Rams (5-0)
Over the first month of the season, the Los Angeles Rams hadn't been tested. They also hadn't played a game outside the state of California.
In Week 5 both happened—and the Rams passed the test.
This isn't to say there's no room for concern after the Rams eked out a two-point win in Seattle. The Rams were gashed on the ground for an eye-popping 190 yards by the Seahawks and were minus-two in turnovers.
But the L.A. offense was nigh unstoppable yet again, racking up 468 yards of total offense and topping 30 points for the fifth time in as many games.
Not every game will be a cakewalk—even for a team as talented as the Rams. Seattle is arguably the hardest road environment in the NFL. And the Rams took the best the Seahawks had to give and still got out of there with a win.
With a pair of less-than-stellar opponents, the Rams have a great shot at heading into a Week 8 home date with the Packers with a chance for a perfect first half.
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https://www.profootballweekly.com/lists/2018/10/09/278cf4e914174a45b53775fca34cdf56/index.xml?page=1
1. Rams (5-0) — Can they break Denver's 2013 record of 13 30-point games? (5-for-5 so far.)
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http://walterfootball.com/nflpowerrankings.php
3. Los Angeles Rams (5-0) - Previously: 4.
Overrated NFL Team.
The Rams looked unstoppable against the Vikings on a recent Thursday night. But be wary of teams that appear that way on national TV. They can often disappoint afterward because they're way overvalued. Remember the Eagles from numerous years ago with their controversial quarterback when they couldn't be stopped against the Redskins? That's what the Rams' win over Minnesota felt like.
The Rams have beaten five teams that are a combined 9-15-1. Because looking at numbers is lazy, let's analyze the wins:
- Rams beat the Raiders after trailing at halftime. Oakland's only win thus far came via horrible officiating versus a rookie quarterback making his first start.
- Rams shut out the Cardinals, who were nearly blanked at home the week before versus the Redskins.
- Rams beat the Chargers by 12. The same Chargers who nearly lost to C.J. Beathard.
- Rams defeated the Vikings by seven. Minnesota tied the Packers and a hobbled Aaron Rodgers and then was blown out by Buffalo. Plus, some poor officiating buried the Vikings.
- Rams snuck out a win against a pedestrian Seattle team, as Los Angeles couldn't stop the run.
I understand that the Rams seem unstoppable, but that's precisely what makes them overrated.
1. Los Angeles Rams
Record: 5-0
Week 5 ranking: 1
Rest-of-season SOS ranking: 16th. The Rams' toughest remaining game is Week 9 at the Saints, where they have a 57 percent chance to win, according to FPI. The Rams are the only team in the NFL favored to win all of their remaining games.
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https://www.sbnation.com/2018/10/9/...ders-fall-rams-chiefs-saints-bengals-panthers
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/.../nfl/.../week-6-nfl-power-rankings.../1562414002
1 Los Angeles Rams
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http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/...kings-jaguars-2018/17avqnhz188bv1eoefx2tm92pd
1. Los Angeles Rams 5-0 (last week: 1)
The defense struggled in Seattle, and the offense lost both Brandin Cooks and Cooper Kupp to concussions, but Todd Gurley was there to play the closer role again in a big away. He’s a pretty good ace in the hole to have.
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https://www.bleedinggreennation.com...adelphia-eagles-cowboys-giants-packers-browns
1 - Kansas City Chiefs (Last Week: 1) - Andy Reid’s team continues to look unstoppable.
2 - Los Angeles Rams (LW: 2) - Los Angeles looked the most vulnerable they have all season. But they still won by two points in Seattle anyway.
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https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2018...t-lions-cincinnati-bengals-new-orleans-saints
1. Los Angeles Rams (5-0; won 33-31 vs SEA) (- No change from last week)
“Jared Goff is not a system quarterback.”
I know the narrative died down a little bit after the Vikings game, but in case you still happen to believe it, it’s just not true. He has a great arm and he’s incredibly accurate. While the offensive scheme is amazing the Rams still need someone to make all of the amazing throws that Goff can.
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles...consensus-rank-for-every-team-entering-week-6
1. Los Angeles Rams (5-0)
Over the first month of the season, the Los Angeles Rams hadn't been tested. They also hadn't played a game outside the state of California.
In Week 5 both happened—and the Rams passed the test.
This isn't to say there's no room for concern after the Rams eked out a two-point win in Seattle. The Rams were gashed on the ground for an eye-popping 190 yards by the Seahawks and were minus-two in turnovers.
But the L.A. offense was nigh unstoppable yet again, racking up 468 yards of total offense and topping 30 points for the fifth time in as many games.
Not every game will be a cakewalk—even for a team as talented as the Rams. Seattle is arguably the hardest road environment in the NFL. And the Rams took the best the Seahawks had to give and still got out of there with a win.
With a pair of less-than-stellar opponents, the Rams have a great shot at heading into a Week 8 home date with the Packers with a chance for a perfect first half.
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https://www.profootballweekly.com/lists/2018/10/09/278cf4e914174a45b53775fca34cdf56/index.xml?page=1
1. Rams (5-0) — Can they break Denver's 2013 record of 13 30-point games? (5-for-5 so far.)
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http://walterfootball.com/nflpowerrankings.php
3. Los Angeles Rams (5-0) - Previously: 4.
Overrated NFL Team.
The Rams looked unstoppable against the Vikings on a recent Thursday night. But be wary of teams that appear that way on national TV. They can often disappoint afterward because they're way overvalued. Remember the Eagles from numerous years ago with their controversial quarterback when they couldn't be stopped against the Redskins? That's what the Rams' win over Minnesota felt like.
The Rams have beaten five teams that are a combined 9-15-1. Because looking at numbers is lazy, let's analyze the wins:
- Rams beat the Raiders after trailing at halftime. Oakland's only win thus far came via horrible officiating versus a rookie quarterback making his first start.
- Rams shut out the Cardinals, who were nearly blanked at home the week before versus the Redskins.
- Rams beat the Chargers by 12. The same Chargers who nearly lost to C.J. Beathard.
- Rams defeated the Vikings by seven. Minnesota tied the Packers and a hobbled Aaron Rodgers and then was blown out by Buffalo. Plus, some poor officiating buried the Vikings.
- Rams snuck out a win against a pedestrian Seattle team, as Los Angeles couldn't stop the run.
I understand that the Rams seem unstoppable, but that's precisely what makes them overrated.
What Broncos Fans Are Saying
- By Rainram
- RAMS / NFL TALK
- 95 Replies
I have a little time on my hands and I was torn between compiling pictures and videos of last weeks game to memorialize the atrocious officiating...or...starting this beautiful thread. But neither last week's officials, nor the Seahawks, are worth another minute of my time. So, here's to looking ahead to week 6! :cheers:
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http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=131624
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It’ll probably be closer to 10 come game time. Can Denver manage to even cover the spread? This game could get really ugly for us.
Denver is going to likely over commit to stopping the run leaving Jared Goff all game to pick on Roby. Eventually our Defense will give way after Keenum throws his 3rd pick,one of which will be a pick 6 to talib.
42-6 Rams
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It's 2017 all over again...blow out on this losing streak.
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Much like last year, the tailgating will be the best part of game day.
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I'll be surprised if the Broncos are within 3 TDs of the Rams by the end of the game.
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That's a good way to make some coin. Easy money and a good week of practice!
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Wade's revenge game.
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While I agree the score is going to be ugly, I can guarantee Talib won't get a pick 6.
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My bad,didn’t know Talib was out with ankle injury.
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Broncos will win- its precisely what we don't need, so that will happen.
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[Goff] appears to be really warming up to the job. After the way Roby played yesterday, this has the makings of a Cannae.
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Let’s lose out until the bye so we can get rid of Vance and finally move on from that failed experiment
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My expectation is that Garrett Holds is flagged twice on the opening drive.
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Denver gonna beat the Rams.
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The Rams are disgustingly good. We're going to get blown the hell out, and we're going to lose coaches to it. Hopefully it's the right coaches.
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We're losing in a blowout...I would bet on the game if I could, that spread is basically free money...
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Gurley outscores the entire Broncos offense. Fantasy owners everywhere rejoice.
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We need to have Toilet Bolles holding call poll going on every week.
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Broncos to win outright. High altitude game, Rams D is a paper tiger. Use same game plan you had VS KC, Goff isn’t as mobile as Mahomes. He also has to get set to throw deep. I’d be all over the Broncos and the points.
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The board is on fire…they want Vance Joseph fired, Keenum benched and Bradley Roby is a no-show at practice after being ridiculed after his performance/treatment/in-fighting.
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http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=131624
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It’ll probably be closer to 10 come game time. Can Denver manage to even cover the spread? This game could get really ugly for us.
Denver is going to likely over commit to stopping the run leaving Jared Goff all game to pick on Roby. Eventually our Defense will give way after Keenum throws his 3rd pick,one of which will be a pick 6 to talib.
42-6 Rams
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It's 2017 all over again...blow out on this losing streak.
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Much like last year, the tailgating will be the best part of game day.
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I'll be surprised if the Broncos are within 3 TDs of the Rams by the end of the game.
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That's a good way to make some coin. Easy money and a good week of practice!
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Wade's revenge game.
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While I agree the score is going to be ugly, I can guarantee Talib won't get a pick 6.
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My bad,didn’t know Talib was out with ankle injury.
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Broncos will win- its precisely what we don't need, so that will happen.
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[Goff] appears to be really warming up to the job. After the way Roby played yesterday, this has the makings of a Cannae.
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Let’s lose out until the bye so we can get rid of Vance and finally move on from that failed experiment
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My expectation is that Garrett Holds is flagged twice on the opening drive.
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Denver gonna beat the Rams.
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The Rams are disgustingly good. We're going to get blown the hell out, and we're going to lose coaches to it. Hopefully it's the right coaches.
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We're losing in a blowout...I would bet on the game if I could, that spread is basically free money...
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Gurley outscores the entire Broncos offense. Fantasy owners everywhere rejoice.
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We need to have Toilet Bolles holding call poll going on every week.
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Broncos to win outright. High altitude game, Rams D is a paper tiger. Use same game plan you had VS KC, Goff isn’t as mobile as Mahomes. He also has to get set to throw deep. I’d be all over the Broncos and the points.
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The board is on fire…they want Vance Joseph fired, Keenum benched and Bradley Roby is a no-show at practice after being ridiculed after his performance/treatment/in-fighting.
So if the playoffs started today....
- By XXXIVwin
- RAMS / NFL TALK
- 3 Replies
Too early?
Anyway, yes, I’m aware it’s only week 5. But hey, it’s been a tough decade for Rams fans, so sue me for thinkin’ playoffs...
Anyway, as of today it would be:
Rams #1
Saints #2
Bears #3 vs. #6 Bucs
Panthers #4 vs. Wash #5.
So... NO Vikes, NO Iggles, NO Pack.
Point being... there’s a shakeup every year, maybe there will be some “unexpected” teams in the big dance.
Got my heart set on the Rams being #1 or #2 seed this year....
Anyway, yes, I’m aware it’s only week 5. But hey, it’s been a tough decade for Rams fans, so sue me for thinkin’ playoffs...
Anyway, as of today it would be:
Rams #1
Saints #2
Bears #3 vs. #6 Bucs
Panthers #4 vs. Wash #5.
So... NO Vikes, NO Iggles, NO Pack.
Point being... there’s a shakeup every year, maybe there will be some “unexpected” teams in the big dance.
Got my heart set on the Rams being #1 or #2 seed this year....
