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McVay versus Shanahan

Shanahan doesn't look like a genius/guru right now at 1-7, and McVay is looking brilliant at 8-0.

It's a more nuanced discussion because most people thought these two were equivalent essentially but had a preference for one over the other. Both are bright young guys with innovative ideas on offense and bold play callers. I know there was discussion of the same type of "that guy is my guy" we had with Bradford and Suh, as well as Goff and Wentz. There was plenty of dialogue.

The difference?

McVay has a fantastic QB and a GM. Shanahan does not. The jury may still be out on Lynch but right now the Rams have a decisive edge here for sure. And so far even more so at QB at least in my opinion.

This creates a sort of perfect storm because I have always said the most important people on the team are the QB/OC/GM. We have all of those and to top it off they are at the beginning of their careers.

A star QB, and a guy designing and calling plays that is creative and aggressive, and a GM that is fearless, and a guy who knows how to manage the cap thoughtfully. I can't recall the Rams ever having this situation.

Todd Gurley and Aaron Donald named NFC Players of the Month

https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2018/11/01/nfl-rams-todd-gurley-aaron-donald-nfc-player-month/

Todd Gurley and Aaron Donald named NFC Players of the Month
By: Cameron DaSilva

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The Los Angeles Rams owned the month of October with four wins over the Seahawks, Broncos, 49ers and Packers, getting some dominant performances from their top players. Todd Gurley and Aaron Donald stood out above the rest, and the NFL recognized them for it.

On Thursday, they were named NFC Offensive and Defensive Players of the Month for October.

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In October, Gurley had 462 yards rushing and seven touchdowns on the ground, adding another 157 yards receiving and two touchdowns through the air. This is his third time winning Offensive Player of the Month and the second Ram to earn the honor this season (Jared Goff, September).

Donald was equally dominant, racking up 12 quarterback hits, eight sacks, 10 tackles for loss, a forced fumble and fumble recovery and 17 total tackles. Incredibly, this is his first time winning Defensive Player of the Month.

TNF: Raiders at 49’ers

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https://athlonsports.com/nfl/thursd...-vs-san-francisco-49ers-prediction-picks-2018

Thursday Night Football: Oakland Raiders vs. San Francisco 49ers

The Oakland Raiders will make the short 27-mile trek to face the San Francisco 49ers to kick off Week 9 of the 2018 NFL season on “Thursday Night Football.” It marks the 14th and most likely final installment of the “The Battle of the Bay” rivalry. Prior to the start of the season, this was a game that every Bay area football fan had circled. It had all the makings of a marquee matchup between two neighboring rivals destined for big turnarounds in 2018. Fast forward to present day, and “The Battle of the Bay” has lost much of its preseason luster.

Oakland’s 2018 season took an immediate turn for the worse following the trade of elite linebacker Khalil Mack. The Raiders have been on a downward spiral since, capped off by the recent trade of star wide receiver Amari Cooper and numerous reports of a turbulent locker room. As a result, the Raiders currently reside in last place in the AFC West with a record of 1-6. And Jon Gruden’s return to the Oakland sideline has been anything but triumphant. The Raiders’ latest debacle came in the form of an epic fourth quarter collapse in last Sunday’s 42-28 home loss to the Colts. They will now make the short trip to Levi’s Stadium in search of their first road victory of the season against the equally snake-bitten 49ers.

Even after the loss of running back Jerick McKinnon in the preseason, San Francisco could still rest its hopes for a successful 2018 season on the arm of Jimmy Garoppolo. However, Garoppolo also went down with a season-ending knee injury in Week 3. And the injury bug hasn’t stopped biting the 49ers since. They fell to 1-7 on the season after blowing a 12-point lead in a heartbreaking 18-15 road loss to Arizona on Sunday. It marked the second loss of the season to a very bad Cardinals team, leaving the 49ers all alone in last place in the NFC West. Kyle Shanahan’s Niners will now limp into Week 9 looking to bounce back against their rivals from the other side of the Bay.

The Raiders lead the all-time series against the 49ers by a slim 7-6 margin.

Oakland at San Francisco

Kickoff: Thursday, Nov. 1 at 8:20 p.m. ET
TV: FOX/NFL Network
Spread: 49ers -3

Three Things to Watch

1. Derek Carr and the Oakland passing game


There was plenty of speculation that franchise quarterback Derek Carr might be the next high-profile Raider to go up on the trading block. But prior to last Sunday’s matchup against the Colts, Jon Gruden and the powers that be in the Raiders' organization made it clear that Carr would be their starting quarterback for the foreseeable future. That reassurance may have been the catalyst for the three-time Pro Bowler’s best performance of the season.

Carr completed a season-high 75 percent of his pass attempts against the Colts for 244 yards and added four touchdowns (one rushing). Tight end and leading receiver Jared Cook also showed signs of life for the first time in weeks with 74 receiving yards and a touchdown. And the Oakland offensive line did not allow a sack for the first time all season. These were all promising developments for a struggling passing game in its first contest without Amari Cooper. That said, it was somewhat discouraging that Jordy Nelson and Martavis Bryant failed to step up and contribute in any way. That will need to change for this passing attack to maximize its potential moving forward.

Regardless, Carr and company will look to build off Sunday’s momentum and keep things rolling in a favorable matchup against San Francisco’s suspect pass defense on Thursday night. The Niners currently rank 21st in the NFL against the pass, allowing 262.5 yards per game. They also have allowed the second-most passing touchdowns (18) in the league and have just two interceptions to their credit. Struggling Cardinals rookie Josh Rosen threw for a season-high 252 yards and two touchdowns against the shorthanded 49ers this past Sunday.

2. Can C.J. Beathard rebound on a short week?

In his first three starts, Beathard completed 64 percent of his passes, while averaging 297 passing yards and two touchdowns per game. In his last two starts, his completion percentage has dropped to 53 percent, he’s averaging 117 fewer passing yards, and his touchdown production has been cut in half. Beathard did well on Sunday to finally avoid the costly turnovers that have plagued him all season, but his decline in every other aspect is a legitimate concern.

To make matters worse, Beathard popped up on San Francisco’s injury report on Monday with an apparent wrist injury. It’s still unclear if he is in jeopardy of missing Thursday night’s game, but an injury will not help his chances to turn things around, even in a favorable matchup against the Raiders.

Oakland ranks 22nd in the NFL against the pass (262.7 yards per game) and has allowed 16 passing touchdowns in seven games. Five of those touchdowns have been surrendered to opposing tight ends, including three this past Sunday to Colts tight ends. That bodes well for 49ers tight end and leading receiver George Kittle. But it may be all for naught if Beathard can’t bounce back on a short week of rest.

3. The run game

San Francisco’s passing game is not the only aspect of the offense showing a steady decline. The Niners were only able to muster 107 rushing yards against the Cardinals’ leaky run defense on Sunday. And in the span of two weeks, the 49ers have gone from having the second-ranked rushing attack in the NFL to falling to sixth. Leading rusher Matt Breida continues to try to play through a lingering ankle injury that is clearly having a negative impact on the San Francisco ground game. Backup Raheem Mostert had been picking up some of the slack, but he is now battling an ankle injury of his own. And Alfred Morris has yet to prove that he can carry the load with any degree of success.

The silver lining is that the 49ers will once again be paired against a porous run defense in Week 9. Oakland ranks dead last in the NFL against the run, allowing 144.7 rushing yards per game, and the Raiders have yielded 377 rushing yards and two touchdowns over their last two contests alone. The bad news is that the San Francisco backfield may once again be too banged up to exploit this favorable matchup coming off the short week.

The outlook for the Raiders’ run game is still somewhat cloudy since Doug Martin has taken over for the injured Marshawn Lynch (groin). Martin looked good at times on Sunday, rushing for a respectable 72 yards on just 13 carries. However, his fourth-quarter fumble completely erased any chance of a Raiders comeback against the Colts. He will attempt to make amends against the 49ers. But Martin could have his work cut out for him against a San Francisco run defense that ranks 13th in the NFL (102.9 ypg) and continues to hold up fairly well despite a myriad of injuries.

Final Analysis

At this point in the season, both of these teams stand to gain more by losing than winning. That makes it hard to trust that either one of these teams will put its best foot forward on Thursday night. But it is a rivalry matchup, and bragging rights will be on the line, so they get the benefit of the doubt. And even if an anemic Raiders defense has given up on the season, Derek Carr has given no indication that he is ready to roll over and play dead. The 49ers, on the other hand, are still two weeks away from a much-needed bye and find themselves more beat up than ever heading into a short week. Even with their best effort, the Niners may not be capable of beating anyone at this point.

Prediction: Raiders 27, 49ers 24

Are Audio Books Like the Old Readers Digest Condensed Versions?

Silly, I know. Although I drove 48 states and Canada in a Tour Bus, I used to listen to Sirius NFL Radio a lot, but I can't ever remember listening to an audio book.

I like story telling, but I also like to read the actual book and I'm a bit of a snob about it. When Readers Digest used to condensed versions, it would pizz me off! I want to read the whole book so that I felt that I accomplished something. If I was in a Barnes and Noble or Waldenbooks, and I saw an audio book for sale next to a hardback of the same title, I'd wait for the paper back....Yeah, I'm a cheap book snob! :sneak:. I normally buy books on Amazon, Ebay, or Abe Books anymore.

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I dunno if this is a reasonable request, but...

I've noticed that especially with a lot of new members posting and enjoying this active and great community of Rams fans that the use of the Chill and Different Opinion have gone way up.

I don't really mind it, but it confuses me especially with so many using the site on mobile and the accidental pushes especially with the Chill and Inappropriate so close to where people scroll. Mobile is a huge reason why I can post as much as I do even when I can't be on my comp for weeks at a time.

Is it reasonable to ask members if they disagree to quote the person and actually state the disagreement?

I suppose some prefer to just register their disagreement without going into it, but it hasn't been the SOP for members to do that very much in the past and, quite honestly, it's kinda confusing right now.

When I see it, I have no idea if it was a mistake, misclick, legit difference of opinion or even a hostility to the position referenced in the post.

Is it reasonable to ask for clarification if members disagree?

I realize that folks may just wanna click and move on, but since that's not really how this place worked for years in the past, I'm trying to understand.

Is this the new normal or is it reasonable to make this ask?

The Ringer Staff’s 2018 NFL Midseason Playoff and Awards Predictions

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2018/...wards-predictions-todd-gurley-patrick-mahomes

The Ringer Staff’s 2018 NFL Midseason Playoff and Awards Predictions
Patrick Mahomes II may be a near lock for MVP, but the postseason landscape is much less predictable than it’s appeared through eight weeks
By The Ringer Staff

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We’re now officially eight weeks into the NFL season, and we know considerably more about the league than when we tried this exercise in the preseason. The Chiefs and Rams have separated themselves in their respective conferences, rookies have begun making real impacts for their teams, and a few players have returned from injury to shock the league. So with a half-season of knowledge under our belts, here are The Ringer staff’s midseason NFL playoff and awards predictions.

Playoff Predictions and Super Bowl Winner

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Robert Mays: I picked Rams to win the Super Bowl before the season, and I’m sticking with my choice. Sean McVay’s team has given no indication that it isn’t the best group in the NFL. Sure, the defense has struggled at times, but with Aaron Donald and that offense, the team as a whole is more than capable of overcoming some secondary concerns.

It’s tough not to throw the Chiefs in here, but their defense still has a ton of holes. Kansas City has its own defensive game-wrecker in Dee Ford, but even after their relatively slow start, I think the Chargers have enough to give K.C. a run in the AFC.

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Kevin Clark: There are four teams that are currently better than everyone else in the sport: the Rams, Chiefs, Saints, and Patriots. I’m picking the Saints and Pats for a handful of reasons. The almost ludicrous efficiency of Drew Brees and a defense that’s rounding into shape have me feeling good about New Orleans.

As for the Patriots, they look like … the Patriots. It has been eight seasons since the Pats didn’t reach at least the AFC title game, and they’ve made the Super Bowl in three of the last four years. As long as they are still part of the NFL’s elite—and they are—you have to pick them. Going to the Super Bowl is sort of what they do.

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Danny Kelly: These might be the chalk picks at this point, but I don’t care. The Rams offense is a juggernaut; Jared Goff’s playing incredibly efficient ball, Todd Gurley is a threat to score from anywhere on the field, and the team’s deep and versatile pass-catching corps is impossible to match up with downfield.

The Chiefs, meanwhile, have the inside track to the no. 1 seed in the AFC and that coveted home-field advantage throughout the playoffs—if and when they secure that, it’s tough to see anyone going into Arrowhead and outscoring Patrick Mahomes II and the team’s multipronged offense. The defense has been playing a little better lately, too. This would be a dream Super Bowl matchup too, so I’m going to do my part to speak (or write) it into existence.

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Rodger Sherman: Somehow, the Patriots beating the Chiefs on Sunday Night Football a few weeks back convinced me the Chiefs were going to win the Super Bowl.

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Riley McAtee: I picked Rams over Patriots in the preseason, and after eight weeks, I see no reason to deviate from that. L.A. is the best team in football, and I’ll still take Bill Belichick in the playoffs over Andy Reid. The only one of my picks that may turn some heads is the Colts winning the AFC South.

Though they’re just 3-5 and sitting last in the division right now, Indy is getting healthier by the day and that division is still wide open. With a cupcake schedule the rest of the way and a rejuvenated Andrew Luck, the Colts could sneak into the postseason.

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Danny Heifetz: I am sticking with my preseason pick. The Chargers went 5-2 without their best defender, Joey Bosa, and their only losses came against the Rams and Chiefs. Their offense can go toe to toe with Kansas City, New England, and Pittsburgh, and their defense has gotten significantly better. Yet the Saints will ultimately prevail because they have the best roster in football.

MVP

Patrick Mahomes II, Chiefs
Mays:
I want to put Todd Gurley’s name here so bad—just because I’m so damn tired of the conversation around this award. But I can’t do it. As long as the current NFL awards structure is in place and the modern game operates the way that it does, it’s going to take an incredibly wonky season for the MVP to be anyone other than a quarterback. That’s why I’m picking Mahomes.

Even if the Rams rattle off a 15-1 season and Jared Goff continues to put up huge numbers, he and Gurley are going to split the vote. Mahomes is on pace for more than 50 touchdown passes for a team that’s cruising toward a first-round bye. He deserves it.

Patrick Mahomes
Clark:
Mahomes’s numbers, his style of play, and his team’s success will eventually be too hard for voters to overlook. I think he runs away with this.

Patrick Mahomes
Kelly:
The combination of Mahomes’s arm strength, accuracy, mobility, and smarts makes the Chiefs offense impossible to defend. The second-year pro has been nearly flawless in Reid’s hybrid spread/West Coast scheme, and even when the designed play breaks down he’s capable of moving around and picking up yards with his legs; there’s just no way to game plan to stop Mahomes. Oh, and though this isn’t part of the voting considerations, his $3.7 million cap hit this year makes him the most valuable player in the league from a salary cap standpoint, too.

Patrick Mahomes
Sherman:
I told you he was good.

Patrick Mahomes
McAtee:
As much fun as it is to speculate about guys like Gurley or Khalil Mack winning MVP, the award usually goes to the best quarterback on a great team who throws a lot of touchdowns. Mahomes has been the story of the season so far.

Aaron Rodgers, Packers
Heifetz:
I appreciate the argument for Gurley (and Goff) but their production speaks more to McVay’s candidacy for coach of the year than the MVP award. Ditto to Mahomes and Reid in Kansas City. Rodgers is succeeding despite his coach, and that will become clear by the end of the season when he single-leggedly drags the Packers into the playoffs.

Offensive Player of the Year

Todd Gurley, Rams
Mays:
The guy is on pace for more than 2,300 total yards and 30 touchdowns. He’s a running back setting records in an era where running backs have been banished to the kids’ table. I know the Rams offense is perfectly set up to let Gurley thrive, but as I’ve written before, I also think he’s the perfect player to make that system go. He’s special, no matter how cushy his surroundings might be.

Todd Gurley
Clark:
For some reason voters have decided that this award can go to running backs while the MVP goes to quarterbacks—Gurley and DeMarco Murray have won two of the last four Offensive POY awards. Gurley will get this as a nod to his role in one of the league’s best offenses.

Todd Gurley
Kelly:
Gurley’s on pace for 30 touchdowns this year, which will bring him close to the NFL’s single-season record (31). He’s ridiculous.

Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs
Sherman:
This is like the seventh time I’ve been asked to do NFL awards predictions and still nobody has told me the difference between MVP and Offensive Player of the Year.

Todd Gurley
McAtee:
No player has won this award in back-to-back years since another Rams running back: Marshall Faulk in 1999, 2000, and 2001. But Gurley is once again lapping the field. He leads the league in yards from scrimmage and touchdowns and should easily take this trophy home again.

Todd Gurley
Heifetz:
If Gurley comes anywhere close to staying on his scoring pace, he deserves this award. Though Mahomes is certainly on his heels if he doesn’t win MVP.

Defensive Player of the Year

Aaron Donald, Rams
Mays:
There’s just no arguing with the impact Donald has had so far this season. He currently has 10 sacks, which would be an incredible season number for a defensive tackle. No interior defensive linemen has ever put up 20 in a single year, and at this rate, I’m not betting against Donald pulling that off.

Aaron Donald
Clark:
Donald’s sack number is only going to grow as the season progresses. He can wreck games and will be in a handful of marquee matchups down the stretch, which will allow him to impress voters.

Aaron Donald
Kelly:
It’s safe to say money hasn’t changed Donald much. The newly inked $135 million defensive tackle is still the most unblockable defensive player in the NFL: Through eight weeks, he’s first in pressures (54), sacks (10), and hurries (37).

Khalil Mack, Bears
Sherman:
Not many defensive players can single-handedly shift games in their team’s favor. Mack has done it like three times over the first half of the year.

J.J. Watt, Texans
McAtee:
This race feels wide open to me. Donald leads the league in sacks, 14 different players are tied for second in interceptions, a rookie (Darius Leonard) has the most tackles in the league, Donald has the most tackles for a loss, and Fletcher Cox and Donald are tied for the most QB hits. So I’ll take Watt, who quietly has 8.0 sacks and four forced fumbles. Everyone loves a good comeback story.

Aaron Donald
Heifetz:
Unless he gets hurt, the answer is Donald. Voting for someone other than Donald is admitting to being bored with his greatness, like when Derrick Rose won MVP over LeBron James in 2011.

Coach of the Year

Matt Nagy, Bears
Mays:
If I’m picking the guy that deserves it the most (and didn’t win it last year), it’s Reid. But this award often goes to a coach whose team didn’t make the playoffs in the previous season and vastly outperforms expectations. The Bears are 4-3, but they’ve got a favorable schedule down the stretch that still includes games against the Bills, two games against a Lions team that just traded Golden Tate, and a trip to meet the 49ers. A 10-6 finish and a wild-card berth is still on the table for Chicago, and that’s possible in large part because of how Nagy has fashioned this offense.

Andy Reid, Chiefs
Clark:
There may still be a big push for a coach who overachieves with an average roster—someone like Jay Gruden in Washington or Nagy. But barring 12 wins from one of those guys, I think the award goes to Reid, who has created one of the most efficient offenses in NFL history with a first-time starter.

Andy Reid
Kelly:
The Chiefs’ beautiful, unstoppable offense was designed by Reid, is run by the quarterback Reid hand-picked, and was made possible because the transition from last year’s starter, Alex Smith, to Mahomes has been more than seamless. Reid is always going to battle his playoff-failure demons, but he deserves credit for what he’s built in Kansas City.

Andy Reid
Sherman:
Is Mahomes a better quarterback than Andy Reid is a coach? I don’t know—let’s just give them both trophies.

Sean McVay, Rams
McAtee:
The Rams will finish the year as the best team in football, and McVay deserves more credit than any head coach in the league. Outside of a late-season collapse from his team, I have a hard time envisioning anyone else winning this award.

McVay … and Reid?
Heifetz:
McVay will win, but Reid deserves the award (or they should just share it like that MVP between Peyton Manning and Steve McNair in 2003).

Comeback Player of the Year

Andrew Luck, Colts
Mays:
This an absolutely loaded category. J.J. Watt would be an excellent pick. Deshaun Watson has the Texans in first place. There are plenty of others. But I’m going with Luck. At one point, he was the future face of the league, and as recently as this spring, there were questions of whether he’d ever play again. He’s currently on pace for 4,374 yards and 46 touchdowns with a career-high 65.8 percent completion rate. I know he’s not launching rockets downfield anymore and the yards-per-attempt mark is lacking, but Luck is back, and that’s enough for me.

J.J. Watt, Texans
Clark:
Watt has eight sacks for a potential playoff team, and barring injury he will run away with this award.

J.J. Watt
Kelly:
Watt’s not quite back to the level of dominance we saw earlier in his career, but he’s posting top-tier stats again anyway, with four forced fumbles, 10 tackles for a loss, and 13 quarterback hits. Those numbers make him a front runner for his fourth Defensive Player of the Year award.

J.J. Watt
Sherman:
He’s actually playing—and well!

Andrew Luck
McAtee:
I predicted that the Colts would win the AFC South, which ties into my prediction for Luck to win Comeback Player of the Year. After a season spent on the sideline recovering from a shoulder injury, Luck has been slinging the football like no one else to begin this season. If Indianapolis can claw back into the playoff race, it’ll be because of Luck’s return to prominence.

J.J. Watt
Heifetz:
The best defensive player of his generation played in 80 of 80 games to start his career and then played in 16 of the next possible 40. Now he’s back and near the league lead in sacks. As long as he stays close to that mark, the award is his.

Offensive Rookie of the Year

Saquon Barkley, Giants
Mays:
He’s already one of the most thrilling players in the league, and he’s playing in one of the worst situations for a running back. This one’s easy.

Saquon Barkley
Clark:
Barkley already has more than 1,000 yards from scrimmage. I do not think drafting him was smart. I do not think running backs have all that much to do with building a good football team. But I do know that from a pure performance standpoint, he’s doing better than anyone in his class.

Saquon Barkley
Kelly:
Barkley is second among all rookies in rushing yards (519), first in rushing touchdowns (five), first in catches (58) and receiving yards (497)—which includes rookie receivers, by the way—and tied for first in all-purpose touchdowns (seven). He’s been as good as advertised.

Baker Mayfield, Browns
Sherman:
We could’ve ended the race after his first game.

Saquon Barkley
McAtee:
I still think any of the rookie quarterbacks could come in hot and steal this award, but so far they’ve been bad (Josh Rosen), injured and bad (Josh Allen), or wildly inconsistent (Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold). Meanwhile, Barkley is already one of the best running backs in football.

Kerryon Johnson, Lions
Heifetz:
None of the rookie quarterbacks are making a strong case, and that may give Johnson the win by default. (Or maybe I’m just a Giants fan who’s trying to reverse jinx Saquon into winning.)

Defensive Rookie of the Year

Derwin James, Chargers
Mays:
Denzel Ward has a great case for this as well, but he’s playing for a team that likely won’t win many games the rest of the way. I’m going with James for the sheer breadth of the impact he’s had for the Chargers. He’s made his mark in coverage, against the run, and rushing the passer. There aren’t many defensive players in football that can do everything the Chargers have asked of him—let alone rookies.

Derwin James
Clark:
Bradley Chubb or Marcus Davenport could, in theory, steal this if they rack up enough sacks, but James will get this because he’s one of the best players on a Chargers team that could become one of the best teams in football. Pro Football Focus has him as the fifth-best safety in football. He is exactly what everyone who watched him at Florida State thought he would be. The Chargers are one of the hottest teams in the sport right now and so long as that doesn’t end, James will be a national star by December.

Derwin James
Kelly:
I wrote the same thing before the season that I’m going to write now: This award rewards the sexy stats—whether that’s sacks or interceptions—and James gets both. The rookie safety has already racked up 3.5 sacks and one pick, plus six passes defended, four tackles for a loss, and six quarterback hits. He’s everywhere on the field.

Denzel Ward, Browns
Sherman:
The Browns are going to be good, if they ever hire a good coach. (They may not ever hire a good coach.)

Denzel Ward
McAtee:
With three interceptions and two fumbles recovered, Ward is tied for the league lead in individual takeaways. Chubb has a quiet seven sacks in Denver and James has been a wrecking ball for the Chargers, but Ward has helped Cleveland’s defense break expectations. He has the edge.

Derwin James
Heifetz:
James has been one of the best blitzing defensive backs in football and would probably win this award if the season ended today. When Bosa returns and the Chargers pass rush gets going, James will likely add a few interceptions to his highlight reel to seal the deal. He’s a true difference-maker on a defense about to take it up a notch.

What Saints Fans Are Saying

https://saintsreport.com/threads/rams-trade-for-dante-fowler.393748/

Rams trade for Dante Fowler

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Bring it. Better players than him have tried to get to Brees.
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donald, brockers, fowler, suh. hope our OL is ready.
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Good. Now there will be some confusion along their D-Line at times come Sunday.
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He is kind of like Eli Apple of DEs to me. Solid to good but not great. He was on a great Jags defense (last year) but never established himself as one of their premier players.

So, like Eli where's he's not a star that will be a game changer, he is very solid and will contribute to an already great team.

If we come out the NFC this year, there's no doubt in my mind this will be greatest Saints team of all time cuz our path is a warzone this year.
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Are people really worried about him? Lol
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A tad if we did not have all pro tackles. He's going to get a good amount of sacks just off single blocking because of Suh and Donald and he's definitely capable of that. Last year he had 8 sacks playing with a similar talented Jags defense.
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People in LA....

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Rams are not the Warriors, they haven’t won anything yet.
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He's a legit outside pass rusher. And helps solve the biggest problem area on their team. Good trade for them.
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He has not played as much this year. Had 8 sacks last year and 5 passed defensed with 3 tackles for loss and 4 sacks his rookie year. Not #3 pick worthy, but not a bust.
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Whatever. We have one of, if not the, best offensive lines in the league.

Good luck pal.
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We'll see.

He had 4 sacks in 2016.
He had 8 sacks in 2017 (which is starting to look like some type of lightening-in-a-bottle year for the Jags)
He has 2 sacks this year through 8 games which puts him on pace to once again have 4 sacks.
He's never earned the starting job in Jax. He got beat out by a rookie in 2016 (Yannick Ngakoue). He has been a back up/package player for 3 years.

He probably needs a change of scenery.
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I'm totally fine with them getting richer at an already rich position and not improving their hole of a secondary. They were exposed last week and we'll blow it wide open this week. And they didn't do anything to bolster it.

And it plays into our strength. I have faith in Brees and the OL nullifying this addition
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Just before our game and I read earlier that Cooper Kupp may play this Sunday. Hope the Saints bring their A game, it's gonna be a dog fight.
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Superstition says, "bring in other player, goodbye win streak".
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we still gonna kick their arse
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Rams always have the lead unlike Jax or they re winning big so all he will have to do is come on the field to rush the passer. And with Suh and Arnold pushing the pocket back, if he doesn't put up numbers now it'll never happen. Good gamble for them, they had nothing on the edge.
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If we can get past the ravens and vikings. The rams are just the same, outside of Donald i haven't heard anybody else causing trouble
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I have a feeling the Rams won’t be recognizable in 2 years from what we see today and the Seahawks will continue to lead the division. That’s my guess....
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He spreads the opposing OL enough for Suh and Donald to wreak havoc. That helps their secondary also. Let's see how saints counter, as there is no film of him playing with the Rams as well.
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An underperforming player that had other dominant players around him on the line and the backfield. Spent a 3rd and 5th for a half season rental. Poor value I like to see and not worried one bit with him against Armstead or Ramczyk.
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not worried about him.

like others said if he could not really stand out on that jags d why would he with the rams.

i give the props for trying cuz they get nothing at all out of the edge of the d at all. they really suck.
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https://saintsreport.com/threads/is...w-sean-payton-or-passing-of-the-guard.393719/

Is Coach Sean McVay the NEW Asshole Face? or Passing of the Guard?

Both aggressive, and reminiscent of Asshole Face in 2006 and 2009 season.
Also in the spotlight are the two men commanding the sidelines in Saints coach Asshole Face and Rams coach Sean McVay, both of whom are regarded as offensive gurus. They also started off with a franchise quarterback - Payton with Drew Brees, and McVay with second-year pro Jared Goff, the first overall pick of the 2016 NFL Draft.

The Saints will *probably* take a page from the Packers and play lots of nickle/dime pass coverage. But Goff has seen it now and he'll handle it much better. Gurley will run up the middle. The Rams will play even faster on that turf and the offense will be more explosive.

The Saints got exposed with the Vikings running the ball right up the middle all game long without having a stud running back, Todd Gurley will have a monster day with that same attack running up the gut. Littleton will be the X factor against Kamara and Ingram for the Saints as there is no more slow footed Alex Ogeltree in the middle.

McVay and the entire team knows what’s at stake. Don’t think he forgot about Asshole Face’s eating grin during pre season when he ran up the score and tried to sneak in an onside kick. This will be a high scoring game. Asshole Face had 3 QB at end zone...McVay will have his hands full with Tasyom Hill.... Thoughts?
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Look for lots of trick plays from both sides of the ball.
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McVay has to throw at least 10 head scratching challenge flags to be mentioned in the same breath as Payton.
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When Sean stops putting up juggernaut offense. He has been doing it historically for 13 years.
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Passing of the guard? Must be sort of like the changing of the torch.
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Payton > Half Beard
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Is Eminem the new Freddie Mercury?
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https://saintsreport.com/threads/young-rams.393698/

Young Rams

I dont think they really understand how loud that dome is gonna be on Sunday.
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Brandin Cooks may have some insight for them.
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Nah, he was too busy listening to himself.
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They did go to Seattle and win a close, back and forth game a few weeks ago, and certainly that place can get loud.

But to me, there's nothing quite like the three hour wall of sound for a big Saints game in the Dome, especially in any 4 PM or night game, when the fans have had time to get, umm...... prepared.

If we can rattle Tom Brady and break the Patriots like we did in 2009, we can break anybody.
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The Seahawks stadium hangs it's hat on a few SECONDS of loud.
The SUPERDOME maintains a constant roar w/added eruptions for 4 quarters!
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This is going to be a great game, we have ripped off 6 straight and beat Teams like Baltimore and Minnesota on their home field (tough road wins) and now we get the young Rams in our Dome....should be a shoot out.
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I kinda heard on one of the sports shows this morning that the Rams had problems with the noise the Packers fans were making in THEIR OWN STADIUM. They gonna be blown away with what hits them this Sunday!!!!
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Be prepared, for The Silence of the Rams.

Thordaddy's Daughter sent me some Pics and a Message today...

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For you newer members... Thordaddy is ROD's 1st ever "Ring Of Honor" member. He was a great friend and Brudda for us all here at ROD. He will always be missed.

His daughter Jennifer sent me a hello message and pics today completely out of the blue. I feel like it was sent to ALL OF US HERE AT ROD really. Like Rich was saying WHAT'S UP too.

Anyway. I'll post the messages and pics kinda like I received them.


Thordaddy's Daughter...

"Hey stranger! I'm at Old Rams Park today. Last time I was here was in 2013 for training camp with Rich. So many great memories flooding back! Hope all is well."


She was there for her work. She explains that the place is a soccer training complex now. Then she sends me pics of the "few pieces of Ram Nation that remain in The STL". She took these pics today...

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Thordaddy's Daughter...

"Please tell everyone hello from The Harter's. We're all doing well. Mom is looking forward to retirement in a few years, Ryan "Thor" is working in insurance and Austin is working in healthcare.

We miss the Rams so much. Sundays aren't quite the same. Hope you're all well. We miss Dad especially during football season. I know that sounds hokey, but it was such a big part of his life.

Especially during his treatment. I know he spoke with so many of you during that time. You brought a lot of normalcy to him during those days. He could count on you for conversation, maybe a little controversy and of course a lot of love around football.

Take care!

Go Rams!"

Predict The Score Week 9 Rams @ Saints

congrats to flava @flv for winning last weeks PTS contest, being just 1 point off the actual score. Your winnings will be in your account soon.

Now on to this weeks match up against the Saints. What could be the game which determines home field advantage kicks off at 4:25 Eastern time in New Orleans

You guys know the rules, pick a score, pick a team, be the closest, win the prize...easy peezy


What say you?

Grade Today’s Rams Transactions

Just curious what other Rams Fans think about the Transactions the Rams made today.

1st of all I am definitely learning NOT to question the moves made by McVay and Snead!!!

But, I am surprised at the release of Jamon Brown. Was this move to save money or are there more problems with Brown that we don’t know about, yet?

And, I really like the addition of Fowler but I wish there was some kind of salary extension agreed to for this trade (I would hate to lose two pretty good Draft Picks for a 1/2 Season rental but If Fowler can help the Rams get to the Super Bowl then it would be worth it!).

Packers trade Ty Montgomery and Ha Ha Clinton-Dix

http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/transactions/nfl/all/today/

Ravens acquired RB Ty Montgomery from the Packers in exchange for a 2020 seventh-round pick.

The sometimes receiver has one of the league's most versatile skill-sets for a running back but was seeing limited work in the Packers' backfield, touching the ball just 41 times in seven contests. Montgomery had a few monster games over the past three years in Green Bay but also had trouble staying healthy. He will add a new element to a Ravens backfield that has traditionally had a receiving threat but not this season. TyMont is a massive upgrade on Buck Allen. The move comes just two days after a Montgomery special teams fumble cost the Packers dearly in Los Angeles. It also clears the deck for Aaron Jones in Green Bay.

Redskins acquired S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix from the Packers in exchange for a 2019 fourth-round pick.

It's not surprising in that the Packers had telegraphed they would not be extending Clinton-Dix, but it is surprising because he's been an every-snap player this season. Jermaine Whitehead, who just got roasted by Todd Gurley in Week 8, is the next man up for the Pack. With Montae Nicholson struggling mightily opposite D.J. Swearinger in Washington, Clinton-Dix will immediately slide in as a starter. The No. 21 overall pick of the 2014 draft is a free agent at season's end.

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