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Last 2 games Rams look like a 1 & done playoff team
- By Florida_Ram
- RAMS / NFL TALK
- 39 Replies
Several members on various messages board forums and NFL media expert talking heads have given the impression that the Rams are one and done playoff contenders.
It seems like some in that group believe the Rams might win their first playoff game but they are just a little bit too flawed to run the table when the single elimination tournament begins in January.
Those that are still on the fence need to see how the Rams perform against the Cardinals and 49ers before they make their final predictions.
I have watched the Bears and Eagles games several times and even though they were painful to watch outcomes, I feel the same as I did 3 weeks ago.
To me, the Rams are still the best team in the NFL but it's by a very tiny slim margin.
Should they lose to either Arizona or the San Francisco in these last two weeks, I will eat my words and recognize that I don't know this team as well as I think I do.
It seems like some in that group believe the Rams might win their first playoff game but they are just a little bit too flawed to run the table when the single elimination tournament begins in January.
Those that are still on the fence need to see how the Rams perform against the Cardinals and 49ers before they make their final predictions.
I have watched the Bears and Eagles games several times and even though they were painful to watch outcomes, I feel the same as I did 3 weeks ago.
To me, the Rams are still the best team in the NFL but it's by a very tiny slim margin.
Should they lose to either Arizona or the San Francisco in these last two weeks, I will eat my words and recognize that I don't know this team as well as I think I do.
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Ole Saint Nick Edition
- By RamFan503
- RAMS / NFL TALK
- 13 Replies
Note: This may be the last one until after Christmas as I will be traveling. And just for fun, we're going to stay with the great Night Train.
I will try to keep up on these. It may not be daily and I will also probably be posting some trivia from the NFL as a whole. Good luck and have fun.
Note: These questions will change almost daily. I will unsticky them as soon as I post the answer.
OK so here is the deal. Years ago I found an LA Rams Trivia Game in a Goodwill. I pretty much bought it as a piece of memorabilia. Now with the Rams moving back, I thought it might make for a fun game for some of us old timers. Odd thing is that about 70% of the questions have nothing to do with the Rams.
So here is what I will do. I will post the questions that are Rams related and let you guys answer. I will then post the answers the next day. These are not easy questions as far as I can tell but maybe the memory function of my brain has been compromised.
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There is only basically one rule. No search engines or internet sites to look up answers that you will post later. I realize some will still look up the answers. I know I would if I didn't have the cards. But I want to see how many out there actually know the answers. So if you do feel like looking them up on the internet, feel free.
And if you know the answer, don't post it. Comment all you want.
Now - keep in mind. I said the internet is off limits. But if you have books, magazines, football cards, etc... feel free to use them. That may seem hypocritical but it's about time some of us got some use out of all that stuff we've bought over the years.
Cheers.
I will try to keep up on these. It may not be daily and I will also probably be posting some trivia from the NFL as a whole. Good luck and have fun.
Note: These questions will change almost daily. I will unsticky them as soon as I post the answer.
OK so here is the deal. Years ago I found an LA Rams Trivia Game in a Goodwill. I pretty much bought it as a piece of memorabilia. Now with the Rams moving back, I thought it might make for a fun game for some of us old timers. Odd thing is that about 70% of the questions have nothing to do with the Rams.
So here is what I will do. I will post the questions that are Rams related and let you guys answer. I will then post the answers the next day. These are not easy questions as far as I can tell but maybe the memory function of my brain has been compromised.
.
There is only basically one rule. No search engines or internet sites to look up answers that you will post later. I realize some will still look up the answers. I know I would if I didn't have the cards. But I want to see how many out there actually know the answers. So if you do feel like looking them up on the internet, feel free.
And if you know the answer, don't post it. Comment all you want.
Now - keep in mind. I said the internet is off limits. But if you have books, magazines, football cards, etc... feel free to use them. That may seem hypocritical but it's about time some of us got some use out of all that stuff we've bought over the years.
Cheers.
My First NFL Shop Order
- By Juggs
- RAMS / NFL TALK
- 11 Replies
I finally purchased something off the shop. My wife’s boss gave her her bonus and included a NFL Gift Card for me! What a great woman! What do y’all think! I was all over the place until I saw this. It was immediate!
Rams miss Robert Quinn
- By Prime Time
- RAMS / NFL TALK
- 25 Replies
Initially I was in favor of releasing Robert Quinn because he seemed to be injury prone and not having the same impact as he did in the past. It looks like I was wrong and he has been rejuvenated.
Click the link below to see the charts.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...rboard-pass-block-win-rate-pass-rush-win-rate
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https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2018/12/20/nfl-rams-pass-rush-block-win-rate-stats/
Rams among league leaders in pass-block, pass-rush win rate
By: Cameron DaSilva
Much has been made about the Los Angeles Rams’ recent struggles to rush the passer – outside of Aaron Donald – and protect Jared Goff. They’re both very warranted concerns, but over the course of the entire season, the Rams’ offensive line has been great.
Additionally, the defense is still overly reliant on Donald as a pass rusher, but his dominance up front makes up for a lot of the Rams’ inefficiencies on the edge.
ESPN created new metrics this season called pass-rush and pass-block win rate. Essentially, it measures how often a pass rusher or offensive lineman wins his battle against the guy across from him by either holding a block for 2.5-plus seconds or beating a block in under 2.5 seconds.
The Rams don’t have any representatives in the OLB/DE category, but to no one’s surprise, Donald is at the top of the list for defensive tackles. he has a win rate of 42 percent, which is substantially higher than the next-closest player, Chris Jones (35 percent). Strangely enough, Robert Quinn is No. 1 among edge rushers at 40 percent.
On the offensive side of the ball, Andrew Whitworth is first among tackles with a win rate of 92 percent. Right tackle Rob Havenstein isn’t far behind at 87 percent, good for 10th in the NFL. At guard, Austin Blythe doesn’t make the list, but Rodger Saffold – a Pro Bowl snub – is third with a win rate of 88 percent.
Kirby Lee-USA TODAY Sports
The most surprising player on the list is John Sullivan, who’s had a down year by his standards. He’s fifth among centers at 86 percent.
As a team, the Rams are No. 1 in pass-block win rate (62 percent) three points ahead of the next-closest team, the Browns. That number has certainly dipped in the past three weeks with Goff getting pressured fairly often, but it’s telling that the Rams are still at the top of the list.
Defensively, only the Panthers have a higher pass-rush win rate (62 percent) than the Rams (59 percent). A large portion of that is thanks to Donald, but L.A. is getting plenty of pressure on opposing quarterbacks.
Click the link below to see the charts.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...rboard-pass-block-win-rate-pass-rush-win-rate
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https://theramswire.usatoday.com/2018/12/20/nfl-rams-pass-rush-block-win-rate-stats/
Rams among league leaders in pass-block, pass-rush win rate
By: Cameron DaSilva
Much has been made about the Los Angeles Rams’ recent struggles to rush the passer – outside of Aaron Donald – and protect Jared Goff. They’re both very warranted concerns, but over the course of the entire season, the Rams’ offensive line has been great.
Additionally, the defense is still overly reliant on Donald as a pass rusher, but his dominance up front makes up for a lot of the Rams’ inefficiencies on the edge.
ESPN created new metrics this season called pass-rush and pass-block win rate. Essentially, it measures how often a pass rusher or offensive lineman wins his battle against the guy across from him by either holding a block for 2.5-plus seconds or beating a block in under 2.5 seconds.
The Rams don’t have any representatives in the OLB/DE category, but to no one’s surprise, Donald is at the top of the list for defensive tackles. he has a win rate of 42 percent, which is substantially higher than the next-closest player, Chris Jones (35 percent). Strangely enough, Robert Quinn is No. 1 among edge rushers at 40 percent.
On the offensive side of the ball, Andrew Whitworth is first among tackles with a win rate of 92 percent. Right tackle Rob Havenstein isn’t far behind at 87 percent, good for 10th in the NFL. At guard, Austin Blythe doesn’t make the list, but Rodger Saffold – a Pro Bowl snub – is third with a win rate of 88 percent.
Kirby Lee-USA TODAY Sports
The most surprising player on the list is John Sullivan, who’s had a down year by his standards. He’s fifth among centers at 86 percent.
As a team, the Rams are No. 1 in pass-block win rate (62 percent) three points ahead of the next-closest team, the Browns. That number has certainly dipped in the past three weeks with Goff getting pressured fairly often, but it’s telling that the Rams are still at the top of the list.
Defensively, only the Panthers have a higher pass-rush win rate (62 percent) than the Rams (59 percent). A large portion of that is thanks to Donald, but L.A. is getting plenty of pressure on opposing quarterbacks.
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Nighttrain Edition
- By RamFan503
- RAMS / NFL TALK
- 13 Replies
Here's to you Jim:
I will try to keep up on these. It may not be daily and I will also probably be posting some trivia from the NFL as a whole. Good luck and have fun.
Note: These questions will change almost daily. I will unsticky them as soon as I post the answer.
OK so here is the deal. Years ago I found an LA Rams Trivia Game in a Goodwill. I pretty much bought it as a piece of memorabilia. Now with the Rams moving back, I thought it might make for a fun game for some of us old timers. Odd thing is that about 70% of the questions have nothing to do with the Rams.
So here is what I will do. I will post the questions that are Rams related and let you guys answer. I will then post the answers the next day. These are not easy questions as far as I can tell but maybe the memory function of my brain has been compromised.
.
There is only basically one rule. No search engines or internet sites to look up answers that you will post later. I realize some will still look up the answers. I know I would if I didn't have the cards. But I want to see how many out there actually know the answers. So if you do feel like looking them up on the internet, feel free.
And if you know the answer, don't post it. Comment all you want.
Now - keep in mind. I said the internet is off limits. But if you have books, magazines, football cards, etc... feel free to use them. That may seem hypocritical but it's about time some of us got some use out of all that stuff we've bought over the years.
Cheers.
I will try to keep up on these. It may not be daily and I will also probably be posting some trivia from the NFL as a whole. Good luck and have fun.
Note: These questions will change almost daily. I will unsticky them as soon as I post the answer.
OK so here is the deal. Years ago I found an LA Rams Trivia Game in a Goodwill. I pretty much bought it as a piece of memorabilia. Now with the Rams moving back, I thought it might make for a fun game for some of us old timers. Odd thing is that about 70% of the questions have nothing to do with the Rams.
So here is what I will do. I will post the questions that are Rams related and let you guys answer. I will then post the answers the next day. These are not easy questions as far as I can tell but maybe the memory function of my brain has been compromised.
.
There is only basically one rule. No search engines or internet sites to look up answers that you will post later. I realize some will still look up the answers. I know I would if I didn't have the cards. But I want to see how many out there actually know the answers. So if you do feel like looking them up on the internet, feel free.
And if you know the answer, don't post it. Comment all you want.
Now - keep in mind. I said the internet is off limits. But if you have books, magazines, football cards, etc... feel free to use them. That may seem hypocritical but it's about time some of us got some use out of all that stuff we've bought over the years.
Cheers.
Kyle Turley
- By Prime Time
- RAMS / NFL TALK
- 12 Replies
Some excerpts from this long article about Kyle Turley's time with the Rams and his dealings with Jay Zygmunt and Mike Martz. To read the whole article click the link below.
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https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/12/19/k...-wife-stacy-harris-mike-martz-concussions-cte
The Ugly End of an All-Pro Career, the Uglier Start of a Life After Football
By ANDY BENOIT
Simon Bruty
Turley, nearing the end of his rookie contract, had been a negotiating a long-term deal with the Saints. But when GM Randy Mueller was fired and Mickey Loomis took over, things changed—Loomis and head coach Jim Haslett put Turley on the trading block. Just days after he and Stacy were married, he was dealt to St. Louis for a second-round pick.
As part of the trade, he received a new five-year, $26 million deal, with $12 million guaranteed. The money was helpful—much of his first contract’s earnings had been spent on lawyers and private investigators from his first marriage.
A rival of the Rams while with the Saints, Turley had been leery of their head coach, Mike Martz. The magnitude of the trade left him encouraged for their relationship, but he later came to believe that it was actually Rams GM Jay Zygmunt who pushed for his acquisition.
Martz’s system demanded a lot of offensive tackles. Turley played well that first year, 2003, but in Week 7 against Green Bay, he was knocked out with a concussion. The FOX announcers remarked that even the smelling salts weren’t waking him. Stacy says she had been instructed to take Kyle home after the game.
In the tunnel she came across Packers defensive end Joe Johnson, who played with Turley in New Orleans. “Stacy, KT is really f---ed up,” Johnson said. “Take him to a hospital!” Panicked, Stacy found a stadium police officer to drive them, sirens on.
A scan revealed dark masses on Turley’s brain. Doctors shrugged. That’s just what you get with football players. Two days later Turley was back at practice. To make sure he was O.K., the Rams had him sustain bull rushes from defensive end Leonard Little. “Just to see if I could stay conscious,” Turley says. “That was the test back then.” He didn’t miss a game.
Stacy would come to look back on her husband’s brain scan through a very different light, but at the time, she was more worried about the rest of his body. Besides football’s usual wear and tear, he had a back problem that sent pain down his leg.
Turley was prescribed a litany of medications—painkillers, muscle relaxants, anti-inflammatories, sleep aides, etc.—and finished out the season. St. Louis went 12-4 but lost to Carolina in the divisional round.
Simon Bruty
Two weeks later Kyle was off most of the medications. One day Stacy heard him shouting from the bathroom, panicking at the site of his atrophied right buttocks, hanging down by his hamstring like a deflated balloon. He had back surgery, and suddenly his mission shifted from chasing Pro Bowls to just getting healthy.
It became a grueling journey, with a few ups but mostly debilitating downs. He was with his teammates often in 2004 but never got on the field. His rehab remained arduous. When asked about Turley at a press conference, Martz said he didn’t know if Turley even wanted to play football. Kyle and Stacy were furious.
Soon after, Turley met with Martz. Turley claims the head coach accused him of coming to St. Louis to take the money and run. Turley became volatile, said his piece and stormed out. Before he got home, Stacy got a call from her dad. “What did Kyle do?!” he asked.
That’s how she learned her husband’s name was ticking across the bottom of ESPN screens, with a report saying he had threatened his head coach’s life. (Kyle and Stacy refute this, saying that Turley had immediately told Zygmunt of their argument. They believe the only way the story could have gotten out so quickly was by Martz taking it to the media himself.)
Martz remembers it differently. “I never accused him of taking the money and running,” he said when reached by phone. Martz said he and Zygmunt were not communicating well. “There was a certain dishonesty that was in the front office that I had to deal with for a number of years,” As Martz tells it, “Kyle did a great job for us and then he got injured.
After that, he just disappeared. I couldn’t get any information when he was coming back. Couldn’t find him anywhere. Couldn’t reach him. When I asked Jay [Zygmunt] about it, he said he didn’t know either. The obvious part to that is Jay knew exactly what was going on [with Kyle]. I just couldn’t know.
“Kyle was upset with me because he assumed I knew what was going on with him and I didn’t. He accused me of not caring, all those things. I’m looking at him thinking, ‘What is this all about?’ I just let him vent, which everybody in the whole building heard.”
That was the last time Martz ever saw Turley. Even after the ugly episode, Turley was jolted when then Rams cut him after the 2004 season. He’d been working so hard to get healthy. As an NFLPA rep, having negotiated on various league matters, he’d grown to suspect that the NFL was strictly a cutthroat business, that players were just commodities.
Now that was confirmed. The realization did not strike Turley lightly; he is a deep, passionate thinker. Battered and disillusioned, he was 29 and already facing a post-football life.
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https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/12/19/k...-wife-stacy-harris-mike-martz-concussions-cte
The Ugly End of an All-Pro Career, the Uglier Start of a Life After Football
By ANDY BENOIT
Simon Bruty
Turley, nearing the end of his rookie contract, had been a negotiating a long-term deal with the Saints. But when GM Randy Mueller was fired and Mickey Loomis took over, things changed—Loomis and head coach Jim Haslett put Turley on the trading block. Just days after he and Stacy were married, he was dealt to St. Louis for a second-round pick.
As part of the trade, he received a new five-year, $26 million deal, with $12 million guaranteed. The money was helpful—much of his first contract’s earnings had been spent on lawyers and private investigators from his first marriage.
A rival of the Rams while with the Saints, Turley had been leery of their head coach, Mike Martz. The magnitude of the trade left him encouraged for their relationship, but he later came to believe that it was actually Rams GM Jay Zygmunt who pushed for his acquisition.
Martz’s system demanded a lot of offensive tackles. Turley played well that first year, 2003, but in Week 7 against Green Bay, he was knocked out with a concussion. The FOX announcers remarked that even the smelling salts weren’t waking him. Stacy says she had been instructed to take Kyle home after the game.
In the tunnel she came across Packers defensive end Joe Johnson, who played with Turley in New Orleans. “Stacy, KT is really f---ed up,” Johnson said. “Take him to a hospital!” Panicked, Stacy found a stadium police officer to drive them, sirens on.
A scan revealed dark masses on Turley’s brain. Doctors shrugged. That’s just what you get with football players. Two days later Turley was back at practice. To make sure he was O.K., the Rams had him sustain bull rushes from defensive end Leonard Little. “Just to see if I could stay conscious,” Turley says. “That was the test back then.” He didn’t miss a game.
Stacy would come to look back on her husband’s brain scan through a very different light, but at the time, she was more worried about the rest of his body. Besides football’s usual wear and tear, he had a back problem that sent pain down his leg.
Turley was prescribed a litany of medications—painkillers, muscle relaxants, anti-inflammatories, sleep aides, etc.—and finished out the season. St. Louis went 12-4 but lost to Carolina in the divisional round.
Simon Bruty
Two weeks later Kyle was off most of the medications. One day Stacy heard him shouting from the bathroom, panicking at the site of his atrophied right buttocks, hanging down by his hamstring like a deflated balloon. He had back surgery, and suddenly his mission shifted from chasing Pro Bowls to just getting healthy.
It became a grueling journey, with a few ups but mostly debilitating downs. He was with his teammates often in 2004 but never got on the field. His rehab remained arduous. When asked about Turley at a press conference, Martz said he didn’t know if Turley even wanted to play football. Kyle and Stacy were furious.
Soon after, Turley met with Martz. Turley claims the head coach accused him of coming to St. Louis to take the money and run. Turley became volatile, said his piece and stormed out. Before he got home, Stacy got a call from her dad. “What did Kyle do?!” he asked.
That’s how she learned her husband’s name was ticking across the bottom of ESPN screens, with a report saying he had threatened his head coach’s life. (Kyle and Stacy refute this, saying that Turley had immediately told Zygmunt of their argument. They believe the only way the story could have gotten out so quickly was by Martz taking it to the media himself.)
Martz remembers it differently. “I never accused him of taking the money and running,” he said when reached by phone. Martz said he and Zygmunt were not communicating well. “There was a certain dishonesty that was in the front office that I had to deal with for a number of years,” As Martz tells it, “Kyle did a great job for us and then he got injured.
After that, he just disappeared. I couldn’t get any information when he was coming back. Couldn’t find him anywhere. Couldn’t reach him. When I asked Jay [Zygmunt] about it, he said he didn’t know either. The obvious part to that is Jay knew exactly what was going on [with Kyle]. I just couldn’t know.
“Kyle was upset with me because he assumed I knew what was going on with him and I didn’t. He accused me of not caring, all those things. I’m looking at him thinking, ‘What is this all about?’ I just let him vent, which everybody in the whole building heard.”
That was the last time Martz ever saw Turley. Even after the ugly episode, Turley was jolted when then Rams cut him after the 2004 season. He’d been working so hard to get healthy. As an NFLPA rep, having negotiated on various league matters, he’d grown to suspect that the NFL was strictly a cutthroat business, that players were just commodities.
Now that was confirmed. The realization did not strike Turley lightly; he is a deep, passionate thinker. Battered and disillusioned, he was 29 and already facing a post-football life.
