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I'm looking for the best streaming option in terms of pricing to watch live Rams games.
I checked out YouTube TV and they want to add all these add-ons that I don't want or need.
I'm the type who literally doesn't watch TV unless it's football. I stream everything else at my convenience.
I live in the US.

What is everyone else going with?

Dallas Cowboys Hating

How tough must it be for Jerrah and the Cowboy fans? The Texas Rangers win the World Series last year and the previous season the Astros did it. The Dallas Mavericks lost in the 2023-24 finals and won it all in 2010-11. The Stars lost the finals in 2019-20 and won it all in 98-99. The Cowboys haven't won it all in almost 30 years and haven't got past the division round since 1995. Man, that's gotta hurt. In the most popular of the 4 major sports, the NFL's Cowboys have the longest drought among Texas teams. Wow! Makes me want to call a couple of my friends who are Cowboy fans!

MENU THREAD!

Over the last 5 years or so I've taken to making meals based on opponents. . .

I've actually found some good recipes.

For example. . . Buffalos Beef on Weck, Detroit's pizza. . .

I love new recipes and ideas.

This thread is usually my favorite to interact through the season.

So I though, Why not see if any of you all have recipes you love, recipes you are wanting to get after, recipes you know will make the Rams win....!

Ranking 2024 NFL divisions by quarterbacks

Ranking 2024 NFL divisions by quarterbacks: Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson help AFC North headline list​

Some NFL teams have elite quarterbacks. Others, not so much. But which of the league's eight divisions boast the most collective talent under center? In other words, which divisions are most entertaining according to their combined star power at signal-caller? And which ones figure to be most competitive?

We've ranked all eight, from least to best, as the 2024 NFL season approaches:

8. NFC South

Kirk Cousins (Falcons)
Baker Mayfield (Buccaneers)
Derek Carr (Saints)
Bryce Young (Panthers)

It's no coincidence that this division is generally considered the weakest of the eight. Cousins is steady as they come as a gutsy and mechanically sound pocket passer, but he's going on 36, coming off a serious injury and just acclimating to a new lineup. Mayfield is endlessly scrappy but has yet to string together reliable seasons. Carr is resilient but streaky, still searching for a big-game run. And Young, while poised, is still a major projection coming off a sluggish debut in a cratering supporting cast. Bet on any one of these at your own risk.

7. AFC West

Patrick Mahomes (Chiefs)
Justin Herbert (Chargers)
Aidan O'Connell (Raiders)
Bo Nix (Broncos)

Talk about a top-heavy quartet. Mahomes is already Hall of Fame-bound after his third Super Bowl title in five years, an annual standard-setter whether slinging it deep or slugging it out when it matters most. He's never not a fun watch. Herbert remains a pristine prototype, with a laser arm and elite size from the pocket, even if quizzical coaching has helped sink his late-year resume. The rest is anyone's guess: O'Connell showed grit as a rookie-year fill-in but could be unseated by Gardner Minshew. And Nix, despite efficient college experience, is a total unknown. You can pretty safely call this a two-horse race.

6. AFC South

C.J. Stroud (Texans)
Trevor Lawrence (Jaguars)
Will Levis (Titans)
Anthony Richardson (Colts)

Call this the Division of Young Upside/Question Marks. Stroud is looking to meet MVP expectations after a stunningly dynamic debut, in which he both controlled the ball and pushed it downfield with a veteran's authority. Lawrence is looking to live up to a hefty new contract after three seasons mixed with tantalizing passing zip and curious decision-making. Both Levis and Richardson have the size, style and attitudes of Josh Allen-esque difference-makers, albeit with precious little experience and injury concerns. If all stay healthy, the potential for fireworks is immense.

5. NFC North

Jordan Love (Packers)
Jared Goff (Lions)
Sam Darnold (Vikings)
Caleb Williams (Bears)

This group has undergone serious change in personnel and/or opinion. Love finished his first gig as a starter with one of the most lively arms in the NFL, promising Green Bay another big-time gunslinger. Goff may have off-script limitations but has fully rejuvenated himself, going from Rams castoff to tough figurehead of maybe the league's most balanced offense. Darnold may be a placeholder for chill rookie J.J. McCarthy, but with a solid arm in a sturdy setup, he could be due for career marks. Williams has yet to take an NFL snap but boasts natural play-making pizzazz. In a year's time, this division could skyrocket.

4. NFC East

Jalen Hurts (Eagles)
Dak Prescott (Cowboys)
Daniel Jones (Giants)
Jayden Daniels (Commodes)

Another top-heavy unit, but with a bit more proven production up top and a bit more upside at the cellar. Hurts was more mercurial as a field-reader in the follow-up to his MVP bid, but he's shown he's got Super Bowl-caliber mettle, tough running and downfield touch. Prescott lacks such a postseason resume, but is consistently one of the NFL's savviest all-around pocket passers. Jones has mostly been a turnover/injury magnet amid New York's perpetual rebuild but at least has led a playoff run as a ball-control dual threat. Daniels raises concerns due to his wiry frame, but could add major electricity. Book at least two of these for a playoff bid.

3. NFC West

Brock Purdy (49ers)
Matthew Stafford (Rams)
Geno Smith (Seahawks)
Kyler Murray (Cardinals)

The "Just Win" division. OK, maybe it only applies up top, but Purdy has been close to inevitable as San Francisco's improbably sterling point guard, showcasing both efficiency and play-extending athleticism to go 21-6, including playoffs, as a No. 1. Stafford may be nearing the end due to his injury history, but retains a cannon three years after taking the Rams the distance. Smith still battles to be consistent, but has shown a knack for crunch-time darts. And Murray, though often erratic through the air, is still elusive and finally has some building blocks at his disposal. This division could be tight in real life.

2. AFC East

Josh Allen (Bills)
Aaron Rodgers (Jets)
Tua Tagovailoa (Dolphins)
Jacoby Brissett (Patriots)

The boom-or-bust division. Even with an overhauled receiving corps, Allen is a one-man wrecking crew, possessing unmatched flair as a rugged scrambler and deep-ball launcher. Rodgers has major medical concerns coming off a serious injury going on 41, but it's hard to deny his craftiness as a precision thrower, especially in a talented lineup. Tagovailoa relies heavily on timing, still looking to prove himself on the big stage, but is one of the league's finest pinpoint passers. And Brissett, while better suited for bench duties, is at least a serviceable bridge to rookie Drake Maye. You might find three Pro Bowlers in this group alone.

1. AFC North

Joe Burrow (Bengals)
Lamar Jackson (Ravens)
Deshaun Watson (Browns)
Russell Wilson (Steelers)

Which other division, besides the Mahomes-weighted AFC West, boasts a top two with a combined two NFL MVPs and three conference championship bids? Burrow has to stay upright to stay relevant, but when healthy, he's been arguably the coolest touch passer under the brightest lights, this side of Mahomes. Jackson remains a home-run threat every time he moves, and his aerial operation was also steadier in 2023. Watson is a walking red flag, thanks to unpredictable availability, but he's at least shown flashes of his vintage Pro Bowl self. Wilson is a different athlete than he was at the peak of his championship era, and he may well give way to the more electric Justin Fields, but has tons of experience. This division, and its quarterbacks, can get ugly. But they almost always make for tough outs.

Facial Recognition of Fans by Owners

I hate it.
Having the ability to identify a single fan in a full stadium seems to be a violation of personal privacy. @AvengerRam probably will tell me how it is not a violation of the 4th Amendment, but its smacks of government control, potentially. In China, they actually welded doors shut during Covid so no one could leave to get food or whatever. When restrictions were relaxed, people were identified by technology/facial recognition as they moved around their neighborhoods, knowing their social credit scores and would restrict their movement from their neighborhood.
Are we there yet? No. But it is a big step toward that Orwellian distopia. Watch this....

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Orlovsky’s top 5 qbs

Anyone see DO put together his top 5 qbs in the nfc?
1. Stafford
2. Love
3. Purdy
4a. Kirk
4b. Goff
4c. Dak

It was interesting that all the discussion was about if Dak belonged in the top 5 or not, of course the consensus is that the best qbs in the league are in the AFC so you take the fact that Stafford was #1 with a grain of salt.

Should the Rams sign Vet CB?

As of right now most of us know we are down a valuable piece in the secondary I'm thinking it might be a good idea to sign a Vet FA and feel there is a good chance we can bring back Witherspoon or a guy like Gilmore. It's along ass season and if we are going to survive the War of Attrition we need to add some depth.

Here are his last few years of salary and we currently stand at 8.5 mill in salary cap.


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2023 PFF 74.4
2022 PFF 81.1
2021 PFF 77.1

At the very least he seems like he'd be a solid option to potentially back up any potential injuries or for White's restructured leg.

CAMP REPORT Photos and final thoughts Jul 30

Long read, fair warning!
Yesterday was my final camp attendance for this year. Here are my thoughts on the players, the facilities and our overall experience along with some photos.

I tried to focus on our DB's and their coverage so that is why you won't see much in the way of receivers catching the ball, there's only one ball and I could only pick on one receiver/DB to follow at a time.
Final Camp Photos

LMU is a nice campus with limited space and that reflected on the limited number of tickets available to the public. We can't thank @Flatlyner and @Bkfld_Rams for sharing their tickets with us. It was very much appreciated. The bleachers face west so we are looking into the afternoon sun which played havoc with my camera (I'm not a pro photographer, not even an amature, just a point and shoot and hope for the best). The main field handled the bulk of the work outs and a baseball diamond behind us was also used for conditioning drills. Now that I think about it, for the three days I was able to attend camp, the Rams never did do any 7x7 as in the past, just 11x11. I think I like that idea, get everyone more opportunities for some plays. Make a note of that for future reference.

I preferred the confines of UCI feeling it was much more fan friendly with plenty of seating and of course the shade provided. Also, it was only five miles from my work (when I as working) and 14 miles from my home. It's a hundred mile round trip up to LMU so UCI spoiled me there.

Who's for real, who's just getting by and who will we be saying goodbye to:

QB's - Stafford, Jimmy G are for real. Jimmy not as good as Stafford but one of the better back up QB's we've had in a long time. Stafford looks ready to play. I don't recall and bad throws from him, his anticipation was spot on. I'm looking for an MVP type season from him.
Stetson Bennet is just getting by. Remember, this is really his rookie year although he did attend camp last year at UCI. He needs some polishing. Some throws were behind the receivers, some fell short, some went to an area where there were no receivers. Again, needs a little more work. Has a good feel for the pocket and can scramble if needed.
Dresser Winn is not a bad QB, just not NFL starting caliber. Is he even back up material? Not really. He has a good arm, not a deep arm but can be accurate. I think his release is a little slow. He's a good depth chart QB.
What will the Rams do with 4 QB's? Stafford is the starter (duh). Jimmy G is the back up except for the first two games where it will be Bennet. Winn goes to the practice squad. After Jimmy G comes back I could see Bennet moving to the practice squad replacing Winn.

WR - Kupp, Pucca, D. Robinson are for real. Great talent here and they all look hungry for the ball. The hard part here is who is WR #4? Tutu? Whittington? X. Smith? Johnson? An argument could be made for each of them but I'm seeing Tutu on the bubble. I beleive Johnson and Smith provide better value than Tutu or Whittington. The only thing I can't judge is their willingness and ability to block in this offense. That may be what separates each of them. This is a wonderful problem to have, to many quality receivers! Stoops, Wiglusz, Lapp won't make the team. I don't really recall seeing Lapp on the field. The other two did get some looks but I didn't see the crisp rout running of a Kupp or the ability to shake defenders to get open. They may be practice squad players but not starters in my opinion.

TE - For real, Parkinson, Allen, Higbee (once back from IR). Long is getting by but could be a numbers casualty. Did not see much of the the others, Forristall, Johnson or Kalinic.

OL
- Easily Havenstein, A. Jackson, Avila, Dotson, J. Jackson, Noteboom, Bruss (draft status, make or break year), Limmer (only backup center). The remainder I can't say due to lack of reps when I was there. The only one I think who will not make it is KT Leveston. I sure hope they don't plan on using Z. Thomas at tackle.

RB - K. Williams, Corum, Scott and Rivers are in. Evans could make it on teams otherwise he didn't much opportunity to shine. I hope I'm wrong on this but then who doesn't make it? Rivers or Scott? Just signed Scott so I don't see him being cut.

DL - Turner, Young, Fiske, Verse will be the strength of this defense. Brown will also be in this mix. I made a comment yesterday that AD would not be missed. Seems I received some flack about that. @RamBall summed it up well when he said we all will miss AD but the combined efforts from this front four will be able to make up for the lost production of one player, AD. So it's not that I'm dismissing AD, it's that I don't feel we will have any drop off statistics wise.

DB - I wasn't able to focus on this group as they were being mixed in through out camp. Let's say we know Cam Curl and Kinchens and J. Johnson are solid. All the others I can't really say one way or the other.

LB - Jones and B. Jackson looked good, after that it's hard to say so I won't.

Teams - Karty, Evans and Ward (long snapper) are in. PK Brown is good and will be poached once he is released (Detroit?).

To summarize, this was the best camp I have seen as far as player performance, intensity. The coaching staff knows what they are doing and we are so fortunate to have McVay leading the way. He really sets the expectations and the tone and tempo of these open practices. Thank you for taking the time to read all these reports from @bubbaramfan and my self and we both appreciate the likes and comments provided.

Take care,

VRF (VeteranRamFan)

20 Random 2024 Training Camp Thoughts

1. And… we’re back!

2. While I have a lot to unpack, I’m going to try not to be a Captain Obvious here. You all know that the Rams are thin at OT and CB, and that we’re relying on several young players to make a mark. You don’t need me to tell you that.

3. Instead, I’m going to tell you what my gut says because, perhaps… others might feel the same way (or entirely differently – that would be interesting too).

4. Last year at this time, I was playing the role of the eternal optimist. I predicted a 10 win season and a playoff birth, notwithstanding the collapse of 2022.

5. Does that make me a prophet? Hardly. I just looked at the roster, assessed a reasonable range of outcomes, and predicted the high end. That’s what optimists do.

6. Using the same thought process this year, I am going to predict 12 regular season wins and at least one playoff win. If the Rams can keep the key guys healthy into the postseason, I see no reason why we can’t contend.

7. There are three factors that guide my prognostication. The first is Matthew Stafford. He is healthier today than he was 12 months ago. If healthy, he is the starting QB in the NFC who I trust the most to win games that are decided based on how well the QB plays, particularly in crunch time.

8. The second factor is the depth of our “skill position corps.” Cooper Kupp’s return to health, coupled with the additions of Blake Corum, Boston Scott and Colby Parkinson will allow Sean McVay to do the two things that make his offense work: (a) run the ball, and (b) keep defenses guessing, confused and off balance.

9. The third factor is an OL that could be the best we’ve had in a while. Certainly, the interior looks like it has elite potential. No substitute for a bunch of maulers up front.

10. You’ll notice that I didn’t list the defense. That’s not because I believe our defense will be a liability. Rather, it’s a matter of too much unknown. That said, if Tre White stays healthy, and top picks Jared Verse and Braden Fiske develop as quickly as Byron Young and Kobe Turner did last year, our defense is going to surprise a lot of people.

11. As a footnote to my formula for optimism, I also have hope for the special teams. If Joshua Karty is as good as I think he is, his addition alone could be worth one extra win.

12. I love the pressure cooker that the 49ers have found themselves in. In 2025, they will have 8 current starters to re-sign, not to mention Brock Purdy who will be entering his final year and looking to be paid. If they don’t win it all this year, their current group will go down as one that truly failed to realize its potential. The thought of that just makes me smile.

13. Speaking of signing QBs… crazy numbers for some good, not great, signal callers.

14. If the Rams play their cards right, it will be 6-7 years (2 more years of Stafford, 5 years of a successor on a rookie deal) before they’ll have to face the prospect of paying elite young QB rates.

15. Of course, by then, the going rate may be $100M per year.

16. I continue to have a love/hate relationship with this time of year. Love that football is back and the glimpses of future stars. Hate worrying about injuries and the over-the-top critiques (and fawning) from random observers.

17. From a guy who’s posted thousands of comments on multiple Rams sites, I wanted to give a shout out to the Admin and Mods here at ROD. I can honestly say that this site is the best combination of participation, appropriate moderation, and quality content of any I’ve been on. Kudos.

18. And I know @Loyal is probably loading a well-deserved blue-fonted snark-torpedo to fire at the preceding display of obsequiousness, but that too is one of the great things about this site!

19. I’m feeling pretty content right now. I have the only thing I really need at this time of year: rational hope for unbounded success.

20. Looking forward to the ride!

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