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SNF: Ravens at Patriots

Sunday Night Football: Baltimore Ravens vs New England Patriots

The Baltimore Ravens and New England Patriots have been two of the AFC's powerhouse teams this century. In 21 Super Bowls held since 2000, these franchises have combined for eight NFL championships; New England has six and Baltimore two. Pittsburgh is the only other AFC team to win multiple Super Bowls during that stretch.

Rarely have we seen either team in a better position for the No. 1 draft pick than the conference's No. 1 overall seed. Yet that's where we are with New England heading into this marquee "Sunday Night Football" matchup. The Patriots, at 3-5, already have more losses than they had all of last year. They're on track for the first sub-.500 season since head coach Bill Belichick's start with the team (2000). They needed a late-game field goal just to beat the winless New York Jets on "Monday Night Football."

The Ravens, meanwhile, are chugging along at 6-2 but in a precarious position themselves. They're two games behind the AFC North division lead and have already lost once to the Pittsburgh Steelers. A wild-card berth would make their road to the Super Bowl difficult, potentially including road games against the Bills, Chiefs, and perhaps the Steelers again. The Patriots are facing a must-win situation heading into a second-half schedule where they'll need to go 7-1, maybe 8-0 to have a shot at winning the division.

It makes this Ravens-Patriots contest as lopsided as any as we've seen in recent years. But you never can count out a team with Belichick roaming the other sideline. Let’s delve into whether there’s any chance the Patriots can pull off the upset.

Sunday Night Football: Baltimore at New England

Kickoff: Sunday, Nov. 15 at 8:20 p.m. ET
TV: NBC
Spread: Ravens -7

Three Things to Watch

1. Can Lamar Jackson go deep on the Patriots' defense?

The reigning NFL MVP has taken a small step back in production thus far in 2020. At the halfway mark, Jackson's on pace for slightly fewer yards, touchdowns, and more interceptions compared to 2019. His yards per attempt have declined to 7.1 from 7.8 as, once again, no Ravens receiver is on track to post a 1,000-yard season.

Jackson keeps teams guessing with his legs as well as his arm. But he's well-positioned to fine-tune the passing game this Sunday night against the Patriots. Their defense ranks last in pass yards allowed per play, allowing a league-worst 8.41 per completion. On Monday night, they gave up a 50-yard touchdown pass to the Jets' hardly immortal backup, Joe Flacco, who also threw for three touchdowns overall. Keep in mind the Jets had thrown a total of four touchdown passes in eight games this season before facing the Patriots.

Jackson can easily stretch the field with the Ravens' league-leading rushing attack. But the game plan should involve a couple of shots downfield to players like Marquise Brown and Devin Duvernay. Especially with two Patriots cornerbacks, Stephon Gilmore and Jonathan Jones, not practicing entering the weekend, there's a weak spot in the defense worth exploiting.

2. Can Cam Newton find enough weapons?

Newton has been a mess since a return from the COVID-19 list after testing positive for coronavirus. The last time he threw a touchdown pass was September while five interceptions during the past four games alone are not far off from Tom Brady's mark (eight) for all of last season. Newton threw for just 98 yards against the 49ers and there's been talk of him being benched with another lackluster performance Sunday night.

A major positive from the Jets game, though is Newton finally rediscovered some chemistry with the receiving corps. Undrafted free agent Jakobi Meyers ignited the effort, posting a career-high 12 catches for 169 yards while attempting to fill the shoes of injured wideout Julian Edelman. The question is whether Meyers can continue the output against the vaunted Ravens defense.

If he doesn't, other options need to step up. The hope is that N'Keal Harry returns from a concussion, but he caught a grand total of one pass in two games before the injury. Can journeyman Damiere Byrd continue a workmanlike performance in recent weeks? He's caught at least one pass in seven straight games. And can the Patriots find a way to create the dump-off screens that once made James White and Rex Burkhead such successful pass-catching threats out of the backfield?

3. Can the Ravens' defense force turnovers?

The Ravens, once again, are feasting on their opponents defensively. They're tied for fourth in the NFL with 14 takeaways and lead the NFL with 10 fumbles recovered. They have three fumble returns for a touchdown, including last week in a 24-10 victory against the Colts. The Ravens D held the Colts scoreless for the second half while forcing Philip Rivers into a third-quarter interception.

Now, they're poised to face a Patriots team that has an uncharacteristic minus-one turnover margin. They've given the ball away 15 times over the season's first half, including 11 interceptions, and have faced a top-10 defense just once all season. That was a 33-6 blowout at the hands of the 49ers in which the Patriots never got the ball moving downfield. Newton threw three interceptions in that game, foreboding what could become a disastrous Sunday night.

Final Analysis

Both teams will be motivated to play each other and don't discount Bill Belichick's ability to rally his troops. You may remember, way back when, a 4-7 Ravens team in 2007 nearly disrupted the Patriots' perfect 16-0 regular season.

Problem is, this time around there are just not enough weapons for New England on offense. Add in the propensity for Cam Newton turnovers against an aggressive, opportunistic Ravens D and this game could get ugly, fast. The bigger question might not be if the Ravens win but whether Sunday night is Newton's last game as a starting quarterback for New England.

Prediction: Ravens 38, Patriots 13

GDT: The Late Games


Sunday, November 15

Los Angeles Chargers at Miami Dolphins, 4:05 p.m. on CBS

Denver Broncos at Las Vegas Raiders, 4:05 p.m. on CBS

Buffalo Bills at Arizona Cardinals, 4:05 p.m. on CBS

Cincinnati Bengals at Pittsburgh Steelers, 4:25 p.m. on Fox

San Francisco 49ers at New Orleans Saints, 4:25 p.m. on Fox

Seattle Seahawks at Los Angeles Rams, 4:25 p.m. on Fox

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GDT: The Early Games


Sunday, November 15

Philadelphia Eagles at New York Giants, 1:00 p.m. on Fox

Jacksonville Jaguars at Green Bay Packers, 1:00 p.m. on Fox

The Washington Football Team at Detroit Lions, 1:00 p.m. on Fox

Houston Texans at Cleveland Browns, 1:00 p.m. on Fox

Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Carolina Panthers, 1:00 p.m. on Fox

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GDT: Seahawks at Rams

Game Day Thread

The GDT is a live thread tradition here at ROD.

While we all get fired up watching the game, please remember our core principles;we always show respect for our team and each other.

Despite the emotional highs and lows watching a game, we will moderate this thread with that in mind, however please refrain from name calling. This applies to players, the Rams organization, and others.

This is the core rule of the GDT. Moderators are tasked to issue thread bans, at a minimum, to maintain this standard.

This is our team. Win or lose. Good days and bad. We are here for FUN, not to be dragged down.

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Go Rams!

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Game Day Menu Thread! Seahawks Visit

My wife and I had originally planned to do a crab boil for the game.

However I found this recipe in which Binging with Babish (a youtuber) makes the Liz Lemon sandwich. A sandwich depicted in 30 rock.

We were going to do them tonight but making homemade marbled rye takes a little longer than we expected.

The sandwich consists of Rye, pastrami, turkey, coleslaw, and potato chips with a russian dressing and swiss cheese.

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Jordan Fuller happy to be back in the secondary

Jordan Fuller happy to be back in the secondary 10 Things with Sarina Morales

Nov 14, 2020 at 11:09 AM
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Sarina Morales
Team Reporter
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Each week, I interview a different Rams player to find out about their lives on the field as well as off it. This week, safety Jordan Fuller shares how he spent his bye week, what song he can listen to on repeat and how good he feels about being back with his teammates.

1: Feels good to be back
Sarina: You are back! How does it feel?
Jordan: It feels great, you know, just to be out there with my teammates. That's probably the most fun. Just doing what I love to do, honestly. So getting back to that it's just really, really fulfilling. A bunch of hard work went into getting me back to this point. So, it feels good.
2: The challenge
Sarina:What has been the most challenging part of this process for you? That maybe, Rams fans don't realize.

Jordan:Honestly, I would say the hardest part, for me, is just my experience so far, just sitting out. Like missing time is tough, but also just not being around the guys as much. It is a little harder and you don't feel as a part of it as normal.
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3: One for the memories
Sarina: Your first game in the NFL, you lead the team in tackles. What do you remember about that game, now that you're halfway through the season?
Jordan:It is definitely going to be one that I remember forever. The fact that I was able to make some plays on my team, was amazing. And the fact that I was able to earn their trust to be able to play as much as I did was just amazing. But there's always a part of me, that competitor in me, that wanted to play better. I know I had a little tough of a first half, maybe not as many fans would notice. We definitely noticed some. And so, it was really fun, but definitely humbling at the same time.
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4: Everybody eats

Sarina: It seems like the secondary is a very close group. How would you describe the bond you have with your teammates?
Jordan:We are real close. Everybody just loves to have fun. And people are really genuinely happy for other guys' success. I don't know how it is other places, but I know here, it's exactly like that. We want to see everybody win; you want to see everybody eat. So yeah, real, real close group. And I have a blast with them.
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5: Food & Fam
Sarina:
What did you do during the bye week? Anything good? Anything fun?
Jordan: I went out to eat at this place called Javier's. It was pretty good. I enjoyed that. And really just spent time with my family that I have out here. And yeah, just kicked it.
6: Unreal

Sarina:
Fill in the blank. SoFi Stadium is…
Jordan: Unreal. Yeah, I honestly just can't wait for fans to get in there and really experience it honestly. It is definitely a special experience. I don't know everything. But just seeing the bits and pieces that I've seen. It's just crazy. I know for a fact it's the best in the nation for sure.
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7: New skill
Sarina:If you could master another skill, what would it be?
Jordan:Either playing the piano or guitar. I'm going to learn one of those after the season for sure.
8: Don't eat the morning of Thanksgiving

Sarina: Thanksgiving dinner. What is on your plate? And do you eat the morning of?
Jordan: I don't eat the morning of, I usually kind of wait 'til dinner. I'll eat a little something. But usually that night, I'll have turkey, of course, you got to have that. And then, I'll have some mac and cheese and yams. Some greens. There's probably some beans there too. Stuffing for sure. Just basically filling on my plate with as much as I can. Then coming back for more after.
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9: Sing it loud, sing it proud!
Sarina: Your mom is a singer. What is one of your favorite songs that you can just put on repeat and why?
Jordan: Yeah, she's sings. She went on the road starting at 17 and never looked back. She's had some solo stuff and a bunch of background stuff. She sang with Luther Vandross, Bruce Springsteen, the Rolling Stones, Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Alicia Keys. So, so many people. My favorite one of her [songs] is called I've had Enough. She has a video with it, on YouTube. In general, I would say I have a bunch of favorite artists, but a song that I could listen to on repeat is probablyBe Alone by Blxst.
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10: Music to his ears
Sarina: What is the most used app on your phone?
Jordan: Either the music app or Twitter. Either one. Usually when I'm by myself or just in the car I'll have music playing, so that gets used a lot.

AC/DC new album Power Up!

Released yesterday Nov 13, Friday the 13th, how fitting. Appreciate it for what's for, appreciate the talent and obstacles in their career, appreciate their return.

Realize, Rejection, Demon Fire, and Code Red stand out and I've been moving me all upbeat with that air guitar broom and side to side Angus Young , RIP Malcom Young ,dancing moves. On my 7th listen so far. Welcome back to health Brian Johnson!

Edit: This album kicks major fucking ass! Dope as fuck!

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The Rams Unspecial Teams

I started to post this under another thread, but the more I researched, the more I realized just how
bad the Rams Special Teams are.

Not gonna address the FG/XP aspect of our ST as our new Kicker hasn't been with us long enough
to draw any sort of opinion. Just gonna file it under "time will tell."

Also gonna omit Superman, because #6 is the best ever, end of story.

The problems lie in our coverage and return game. The Rams are at or near the bottom of the league
in most every category.

Aside from being the only team in the NFL to give up a punt return for a TD, we are ranked 28th
in punt coverage. If not for Hekkers phenomenal punting, I have no doubt we would be 32nd.

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While our kick coverage is just as poor coming in at 27th

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Our Return game / momentum changing Teams are also far from adequate. With the punt return game
being the worse of the two .Rams are Ranked 25th in return avg. They have 0 punt returns over 15yds , with 2 fumbles and 2nd most
fair catches in the league with 16.

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Rounding out our Special teams is kick return, coming in the highest, but still bad. at 22nd

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I am not sure if, in this current Ram's organization mind
Special Teams are the priority they should be or if they have lost sight of just how important they are.
Not saying that's definitely the case, but sometimes I feel like we treat punt/ kickoff return as a mere
prelude to offense.JMHO

Joe Barry

One of the reasons I was so adamant that Staley's original defensive scheme wouldn't work is because I've seen it before. Joe Barry used a similar scheme as DC in Washington a few years ago. His was more of a cover 3 zone, predicated upon the notion that no offense can sustain drives without making a mistake. That type of scheme requires more speed at almost all defensive positions than any team realistically has. Obviously, he was booted out of Washington after a couple of years.

So why am I posting this? Joe Barry is IMO the poster boy for a coach who is good at perhaps one aspect of his profession and who can find success in that limited role. I've watched Joe during his tenure in San Diego and now here in LA. He's a pretty darn good LBs coach and has been responsible for developing young rookies into solid NFL players. He understands their strengths and limitations.

Not every coach can be a coordinator. Not all coordinators can be a head coach. Robert Saleh, has a lot of potential as a possible HC on the level of Ron Rivera. I think that Staley has potential, but it's far too early to predict just how good or not Brandon will be. What I like about Staley is he adapted when he had to. What is still to be proven is how well he adapts, i.e. during a game. I see him trying but with varying degrees of success. I hope Staley is learning from his experience. If he is the defense will only get better. I said before the season that this defense had top 10, possibly top 5 potential if used correctly. So it's no surprise to me where they are at this point. But the real test starts this week through the end of the season. He now knows his players. Let's see how well he uses them going down the stretch. If they continue to play at this level, it won't be the defense that keeps them from winning a Super Bowl.

Pregame Thread - Seahawks at Rams

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PRE-GAME THREAD
  • Tweets about the game, leading up to the game, players, writers, etc.
  • Stats, tidbits
  • Weather conditions
  • Pregame stuff, quips, articles, previews, prediction stuff (some times there seems more than normal of this type of stuff)
  • “Things on the web” that don’t feel they stand alone, but maybe fit here
  • Excited about something with the game, maybe you want to shout it here
  • Trash talking, general smack
  • Unsure where to put something game related, maybe try here
  • Going to the game? Tell us! (at least in the future)

Noteboom confident he can tackle being Rams’ replacement for Andrew Whitworth

Rams News: Joseph Noteboom Elevated To 53-Man Roster
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11/13/2020


The bye week helped pay huge dividends for the Los Angeles Rams and the overall health of their roster heading into Week 10 of the 2020 NFL season.The extra week of rest gave them ample time to construct a proper game plan to make a statement against the Seattle Seahawks in a battle for first place this weekend. Not only that, they will be welcoming back two key components of their elite defense in safety Jordan Fuller and defensive tackle A’Shawn Robinson.

The return of Fuller and Robinson should help to kick things up a notch on the defensive side of the ball. Fortunately, it appears they will receive some assurance on offense as well.
Head coach Sean McVay provided some more good news with left guard Joseph Noteboom set to return to the active 53-man roster versus Seattle, per Jourdan Rodrigue of The Athletic:

Sean McVay says the Rams will elevate LG Joe Noteboom (calf) to the 53-man this week, and that will fill their last roster spot. Depth with Edwards missing a day of practice.
— Jourdan Rodrigue (@JourdanRodrigue) November 11, 2020

Noteboom has been sidelined for the last six games with a calf injury. He was replaced by David Edwards during that time, however, the second-year left guard was absent from practice with an abdominal injury.

Noteboom’s return helps shore up some much-needed depth up front amid Edwards’ uncertain status. The improved play along the offensive line has helped this offense put up the sixth-most total yards per game (396.4) this season.

The Rams were forced to make some cuts in order to make room for both Fuller and Robinson in Week 10. Linebacker Natrez Patrick and center Cohl Cabral found themselves as the casualties of getting them back into the mix. The moves indicate that rookie linebacker Terrell Lewis could be poised for a bigger role on both defense and special teams moving forward.

L.A. has an opportunity to potentially take control of the NFC West with a win over Seattle at home heading into the second half of the season.

Is Brandon Staley more than halfway through his Rams career?


Sigh. I'd be happy for him but it's frustrating to bleed coordinators before achieving true consistency. This is the best defense we've had in 19 years, maybe even longer.

Things I am looking for during the second half of the season

In no particular order.

1. A Robinson and his effect on the D line and freeing up AD a little more. How impact on our ILBs. Let’s see how much space/blockers he can consume.
2. Gameplan/play calling. McVay is a smart dude. Let’s see the football smarts, memory and a creative balance with the ability to change the game plan based on what defenses and offenses show us. I feel like Staley is great at making adjustments, but I’d like to see them sooner.
3. more TE usage. Let’s get Higbee more looks, Everett involved (whatever that looks like) and hope that Hopkins is being coached up and ready to contribute next year.
4. Goff’s 2nd half needs to show the ability to handle pressure. Let’s get him rolling out, let some plays develop more downfield for him and let’s open the damn playbook up a little bit. I feel like we are saving the playbook for the playoffs, but we need to make the playoffs first.
5. Van Jefferson. I want to see this kid get more targets. We will need him over the 2nd half and even more next year.
I am overall ok with where the team is in terms of scheme, depth and for the most part execution, with the exception of ST’s. Really missing Bones and The Leg.

CONTEST Predict the Score Week 10 Seahawks @ Rams

and we are on to the second half of the season, so that means the prizes go up again. Now you can win 15k for closest and 30k for an exact prediction.


The Rams had the benefit of a the bye week last week, and were able to sit back, nurse their wounds after the ass whoopin the dolphins laid on them and watch the rest of the NFCW lose. Which means this game is basically for the division lead. does the Rams D have what it takes to stop the high flyin Seattle passing game. Will the rams O keep the ball on the ground or air it out against a weak Seahawk secondary?



You tell me

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General In Season Outline / ROD Schedule

General In Season Outline / ROD Schedule

We have a lot of habits at ROD. If you are new here, it might feel uncomfortable trying to figure it all out.

Accordingly, here is a general outline of our weekly flow. We adapt as we go... so we also roll with it.

WEEK LEADING UP TO GAME

“Up Next” and “First Look” threads kick off a new week. These threads are started by any member as a general discussion about the next opponent. These get the juices flowing.

We have many threads about the next game. That’s what we want (topics) and what we are here to do... to discuss them.

We are not obsessed with merging topics leading up to games.

So... post those topics!

PREDICT THE SCORE

Prediction threads
are started by Bookies, for Sportsbook cash prizes! These are started 12-60hrs before game time.

GAME DAY MENU THREAD

Menu threads are started by any member and are food and drink threads. What to eat? Recipes. Etc. They can be posted at any time.

48hrs UP TO GAME TIME

PreGame Thread
kicks off the game festivities. This is typically started by moderators. This gets us warmed up for game time... All the important stuff about the game comes into focus.

Weather, injuries, tweets, tid bits, and random stuff.

Trash talk. If you are attending, share it!

GAME DAY THREADS

Game day threads
are kicked off 12-24hrs before game time. These threads are started by moderators. These threads focus discussion specific to games. Keeping things tidy on the board.

VENT OR CELEBRATION THREADS

Post game VENT or CELEBRATION threads, are started by any member, but we start just one. These threads focus post game reaction, keeping the board tidy of too many like-topics.

A fair bit may get merged here, particularly following a loss as we try to balance venting vs new discussion.

Pleased by progress, Rams defense sees room for growth

Though pleased by progress, Rams defense still sees room for growth entering second half of 2020 season

THOUSAND OAKS, Calif. – Meeting with his unit on Monday, Rams defensive coordinator Brandon Staley took them all the way back to training camp.

In wake of a completely virtual offseason, those 7-on-7 sessions during the acclimation period in early August represented the first chance to install Staley's new scheme in-person and on grass. With eight games of live action in their minds as a backdrop, the progress was apparent.

"I think that in order for you to show your guys how far you can take it, sometimes you need to show them how far they've come," Staley said. "So for them to see their first snaps in that acclimation period in some of the walk-thrus, and then our very first snap of training camp to the last snap of Miami, I think that you realize how much work we've put into this and how far we've come as a group."

Traditional statistics have the Rams defense ranked in the top five in multiple categories at the midway point of the season.

Los Angeles has the No. 2 total defense and No. 2 scoring defense in the league. It has allowed the second-fewest passing yards and fourth-fewest rushing yards per game. It's tied with the Pittsburgh Steelers for second-fewest first downs allowed, while opponents are only converting 33.3 percent of their third down attempts, third-lowest in the NFL. L.A. also makes few self-inflicted mistakes, tied with the Jacksonville Jaguars, New England Patriots and Green Bay Packers as the fourth-least penalized defense (40).

Broken down further:
  • Opponents failed to eclipse 250 passing yards in six of their first eight games.
  • No running back has rushed for 100 yards (or more). While the Cowboys' Ezekiel Elliott reached 96 yards in Week 1 and the Eagles' Miles Sanders 95 in Week 2, no running back has had more than 71 in the six games since.
"We've just been getting better," Donald said during a video conference Thursday. "You know, I've been more proud of just how consistent we've been playing the last couple of weeks, because obviously, we're a good defense, but there was weeks where we had a great week and then we came back and was, okay, but the past couple of weeks we've been consistent. So we've just got to keep that up and keep feeding off that, keep pushing each other and feeding off each other's energy and continue to dominate."

The purpose of this teaching tool wasn't just to show the defense's growth, though. If they progressed that quickly in the first half of the season, what does that tell them about what they can achieve in the second half?

"We're definitely light years of where we once were in training camp," Rams linebacker Kenny Young said during a video conference Monday. "And now, it's, how can we take it to the next level? The cool thing about it is, we have all the players, we have all the character, we have the know-how."

That confidence will be put to the test against a Seahawks offense ranked No. 1 in the NFL in scoring (34.3 points per game) and No. 3 in total offense (415.0 yards per game), led by the NFL's leading passer in quarterback Russell Wilson (317.6 yards per game).

Still, there is perhaps no better opportunity to measure that growth than that kind of matchup.

"I think as you are aware, there's much more to be done," Staley said. "There's so much. We have such a long way to go. I think that that's what we're excited about and certainly these next eight games will test us each and every week."

Three things about the Rams’ offense that irk me...

I don't claim to be a football guru but, as a fan, there are three things I've observed about the Rams' offense that irk me:

1. "TURBO SET! TURBO SET! TURBO SET... time out."
Is it me, or does it seem like, at least once per game, the Rams come to the line, Goff barks out signals, the clock runs down, and we take an untimely time out? I get the whole "changing the play at the line of scrimmage" and "trying to draw the defense offsides" things, but time outs (particularly in the second half) are too valuable to squander this way.

2. Relying on YAC on third and manageable.
Sometimes, when its 3rd and 10 or more, and the defense has its ears pinned back, ready to go after the QB, a quick screen can be a safe way to avoid the rush and, in some cases, pick up a first down. When its 3rd and 5-9, though, I think the ball should pretty much always be thrown far enough to move the chains. A 2 yard pass play on third and 6 really annoys me.

3. Hurry Up Offense... its not just for the final 2 minutes!
Against the 49ers and Dolphins, when the Rams needed to come back, I felt like there was a lack of urgency on drives in the 3rd and early 4th quarters. Given that we are often effective in no huddle and quick-snap situations, why wait?

Maybe its me, or maybe you've seen the same things...

Anyway... nothing that a nice 30 point blowout win couldn't fix!

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