Id love to debate this topic; but it's not going to end well.

Locking it.

LesBaker said:

Damn Dave I knew you were old but not that old!!!!!

Happy Birthday to you, you look good for a 241 year old guy

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" My Wife says I don't look a day over 240 years Old!" But, as I told her ...

" And I Hope All the Veterans Have a Great Day today, and A Toast to all the Men that didn't make it back Home!":cheers:

jetplt67 said:

I was at a game once chanting for TJ Rubley.
We all do it, who cares. Keenum is getting paid handsomely while we pay out the a$$ to watch his mediocre play. Suck it up

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Haha.
I was a teenager managed to save enough work money to buy season tickets in the nose bleeds.
Good Ol TJ Rubley. Chanting for Rubley. An act of desperation.
Good times.

jrry32 said:

Yes. I honestly believe that. Here's why you should believe it as well:
Score Entering the 4th Quarter This Year
Game 1 (SF): 14-0 SF
Game 2 (SEA): 6-3 LA
Game 3 (TB): 24-20 LA
Game 4 (ARI): 13-10 ARI
Game 5 (BUF): 23-16 BUF
Game 6 (DET): 21-21
Game 7 (NYG): 10-10
Game 8 (CAR): 7-0 CAR

Every single one of these games was winnable. What are Keenum's 4th Quarter numbers this year?
42/90
53.3%
528 yards
5.9 YPA
4 TDs
5 Ints
62.6 QB Rating

Yep. I think we had a shot this year with Goff. If even two of these games went the other way, we are sitting at 5-3 halfway through the season. We were in every single one of these games going into the 4th, even that terrible SF game. Keenum responded by throwing interceptions at a horrific rate and playing all-around bad football in the 4th Quarter this year. This is a team capable of making the playoffs with even average QB play. We're just not getting that.

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I agree 100%.
But you're assuming we would have been in a position to win the game with an inexperienced rookie.
I don't.

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This was considered rushing the passer. I really have no idea what the NFL even considers any of their calls nowadays, but it makes you wonder, considering Cam has had near 0 roughing the passer calls recently.

Conspiracy Theory Coming:
We've seen it before, Fisher benches a guy stating that he has a mystery illness/Injury.


Hopefully Keenum will get "injured" soon also

It seems as though the Rams go with my fantasy team, just a week behind. I am currently at 4-5 so I believe the Rams win this week to equal that record of mine.

However if/when my fantasy team loses this week, I will be 4-6, making the next Rams game a loss.

This is pure scientific research that shows clear correlation.

I'm still nervous...

Nelson who?????

If he doesnt pass the Fisher protocol, we wont get to know him.

I said no onions!!!!!!

woofwoofmo said:

Getting completely off the thread topic, but if you want to watch a really interesting and informative series on the AFL and how it impacted today's NFL, look for "Full Color Football: The History of the NFL" it's a five part series produced by NFL films and usually shows up about once a year on the NFL Network. It's worth the time to watch, especially if you remember some of those days or are interested in the evolution of the sport.

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Just watched the first episode -- makes you want to support an AFC team .... I won't ... but what a fantastic effort by Lamar Hunt to get the American League up and running.

If Fisher truly thought his contract could expire at the end of the season without hope of a new deal, he could have easily bought himself some time by rolling with Goff, and the inevitable ups and downs that come with it, and played the rookie quarterback card with his bosses to convince them he deserves more time.

That he hasn’t is probably a good indication Fisher knows he’ll be back in 2017.

From that confidence, Fisher can make the calls he feels are best for the team short- and long-term, without concern to how it might play on his job status.

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I agree with this take.

Amitar said:

Either they all suck or its coaching, one or the other. Time to figure it out and move on. All I know is the draft must be all OL again.

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Agree with the figure it out part, but the draft is not always the answer with OL. There's no one right recipe, successful lines can mix draft picks, undrafted, and free agents. Unfortunately it always seems the Rams draft picks all become Alex Barron & Jason Smith, and the free agents all become Scott Wells & Scott Wells.

Tron said:

Sigh :banghead:

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That Kendricks drop is a classic case of what you call "hearin footsteps." He's been better this year, but it's guys like him that are holding this offense back. You're just not gonna get consistency from him game in and game out. He's a JAG, just like Kendricks and Quick. Tavon sort of is too, tbh, since nobody seems to have a problem eliminating him from a gameplan.

New coach will come in, and hopefully get a rebound year from Gurley. He'll sign a FA wideout and hopefully Tavon shows better under the new regime as a big play option with Goff droppin dimes on him. But then again Tavon's just like the rest of these clowns in that he'll disappoint when it matters more often than not.

Just get a new regime in here Stan for the love of all that is holy. Get yourself a true offensive guru at the HC position and it will pay dividends.

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That is passing offense not total offense. Fact check complete.

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By yards they are 31st in the league, and by points dead last
Which is actually worse than last season if you can believe that

#MakeMidfieldRamsAgain

Wow Quick has been wide open for at least 4 more TD's this year and he is to blame for these kind of throws? No wonder everyone wants to cut him:banghead::rolllaugh:

been a Rams fan for 49 years. I watch every game and never turn it off until its over doesn't matter what the score is. at the end of the day weather they win or lose it doesn't change my life. its a game I don't understand why people get so pissed off and act like the world is going to end. relax and enjoy life its to short to be pissed off about a game

I basically agree, and the principal he seems to be getting at is that you've got two ways to go (Assuming you're not just a bonkers dominating team already):

A) Competent Winner - The team isn't always winning in an exciting or aesthetically pleasing fashion, but it is winning. You may be doing it on the ground and on defense for the most part, but the team is functioning consistently, has an established method for winning, and delivers wins, using that method. The three phases work in concert, producing what is necessary to win 60 to 80 percent of games. Prototype: Bengals.
In this scenario, the team is not always fun to watch, but delivers entertainment/satisfaction to the fanbase by winning.

B) Roller Coaster - The team may or may not have success, and that success may not last, or may prove ultimately empty, but man, there's something about this team that is just easy to love and root for. From their charismatic players and leaders to their creative gameplans and playbook, there's not often a dull moment. Young players flash potential, and sometimes prolonged excellence. Impact plays come often and are emphasized. The offense is smooth and swift and daring, capable of burning gloriously, and every once in a while going off in historic fashion. The defense and special teams will create turnovers, but often give up crucial plays that make every game a nail-biter. While they often shoot themselves in the foot, the stylish and creative football they play makes not rooting for them impossible. Prototype: Raiders, Chargers, Cowboys (Imagine the raiders and cowboys with a few more losses in those close games, to really fit the vision)
In this scenario, the team is fun to watch, entertaining and endearing to the fanbase despite an aggravating inability to put it all together.

How I interpret his remarks is that--with the goal being to build, encourage, and empower a fanbase that feels confident, prideful, and invested in the team--the team needs to reach one of these places. As constructed, it would seem to imply either using the current plan to establish the Rams as a Competent Winner, or turning the ideology on its head, going with Goff and freeing up the team's playmakers to become a Roller Coaster team. While this current team's fortunes do tend to go up and down unpredictably, they are hell to watch for any but the already invested who will watch anything because it's a part of us. The current way the Rams are going, they seem to want to be A, a Competent Winner, but are not achieving success. So he's suggesting the Rams need to get more entertaining, and put the kid in, and let him sling it, and make the game exciting for the fanbase.

At the end of the day, a large percentage of the team's fans will be casual fans. They want to be entertained, they want to enjoy the narratives, and don't want to attach their fandom to a team incapable of telling them good stories. Boring strategies coupled with incessant mediocrity are going to stifle and squander the opportunities this team's already somewhat shriveled fanbase has at blossoming. I don't want to see that happen, and take what he's saying pretty seriously.

Maybe too seriously. Didn't mean to write that much.

In short, what he's saying makes sense, and sports ARE entertainment, to a very large percentage of the audience, and that's also okay. And if the team hopes to be what it has the potential to be in the LA Market, it needs to embrace this, rather than resist it.

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He won't start against the J-E-T-S, BUT!! maybe he finishes the game!?!

We gotta lock this thread.

It was originally about getting out and casting your vote. Then sidetracked into Ganja. That was fine.

But the political talk is going to be deleted.

Somebody start a Ganja thread if you like. The voting is over,,, and so is this thread.

Lock this guy up. If he stays healthy I've never seen a more obvious first ballot HOF guy. I know - hes only been in the league 2 years! That's how much of a freak he is.

Dxmissile said:

So are you saying that the oline run blocking is the same as last year??? Because I dont see it in fact to me its no where near the same its a lot worse.

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It's hard for me to see how the same players in the same scheme would be dramatically worse at run blocking. I think it just appears that way since Gurley isn't breaking many long runs this year. Our run blocking was never any good last year, he just showed more vision and burst.