Brit is a loser and nothing that can't be replaced. He is part of the problem. Get rid of him and Quick.

Merlin said:

Snead is gone. This is going to be a full house cleaning dudes.

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Maybe ?? Why not Demoff ?? He is the real mistake. He has way to much power.
He has been with The Rams for way to long. He was the one who gave Fisher a huge 5 year contract & will eat 2 years of contract that he didn't have the Nades to announce both Snead & Fisher signing. Fisher says he didn't even know that Snead was resigned.

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Another aspect the current staff does not seem to understand is, Gurley can catch the football, they should have devised more plays to get him the ball via the pass in the flat and thus getting him going that way too.

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I am praying that the new staff will utilize this.
The flats are a good place to start,but he is capable of more.

LOL.....Nelson Spruce returns to practice.....great.....you know what man, just take this week off.
A perfect symbol for this season.
Freaking comedy.

https://www.engadget.com/2016/12/29/2016-apple-fans-lose/

Tim Cook and the rest of Apple's leadership will probably not look back fondly on 2016. iPhone sales declined for the first time, and Apple's profits followed suit. There are still bright spots, like the company's growing services business, and the company is still making insane amounts of money. Even so, the stalled growth has to be concerning to both the company and its investors.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not here to pity Apple. I'm here to commiserate with its fans, the ones who Apple shafted this year. Particularly those of us who waited all year long for a substantial update to the Mac lineup only to be offered a pair of intriguing but compromised new laptops. Or those of us who bought an iPhone 7 and can't use the headphones included with it in our new MacBook Pro, or even those of us trying to figure out which iPad to buy.

Across the board, Apple has confusing product lineups with weird and unnecessary compromises. And if you believe the wailing of aggrieved fans across the internet, it seems like plenty of loyal Apple supporters might be contemplating life outside the company's ecosystem. How did we get here?

The product that most exemplifies Apple's difficulty in 2016 is the Mac. The Mac may only compose a small part of Apple's overall business, but that doesn't excuse the neglect it's endured recently. For 10 full months, the only update was a processor refresh on the 12-inch MacBook. (OK, you can also buy it in pink now. Thanks, Apple.) The company's main three machines -- the MacBook Air, MacBook Pro and iMac -- went untouched. That's still the case for the iMac and MacBook Air; it's hard to recommend that anyone buy them right now. And we all know what happened when the MacBook Pro was finally updated: A portal to the dongleverse was opened.I'm not here to pity Apple. I'm here to commiserate with its fans, the ones who Apple shafted this year.

Yes, Apple had already released the 12-inch MacBook with just a single USB-C port. But that computer was designed with extreme portability in mind; it was a laptop inspired by the iPad. It'll likely take the aging MacBook Air's place in the lineup as the company's entry-level Apple laptop. That was fine when the MacBook Pro and its many ports existed, but Apple has now made it clear it's not interested in keeping any legacy I/O around, even for its "pro" customers. That's an aggressive move, and one that has been met with widespread displeasure.

In a vacuum, there are plenty of things to like about the new MacBook Pro. The screen is excellent, the reductions in size and weight are welcome improvements, performance and audio quality are both improved, and even the controversial Touch Bar has potential. Other things, such as the redesigned keyboard, are a matter of personal preference, not a definitive drawback. But reduced battery life, the loss of physical function keys and only one type of port mean that many of the professionals Apple is targeting will need to change their workflow.

And that's not even mentioning the price increases: It'll cost you at least $1,799 to get a MacBook Pro with a Touch Bar. History suggests that prices of the new MacBook Pro will eventually drop as the old models are phased out, but there's still some significant sticker shock here.

This confusing middle ground between old and new makes it hard to decide which MacBook Pro is the best for a given shopper. Is your $1,499 better spent on the previous-generation model or the new one? If you opt for the new model, you get a piddly two ports and no Touch Bar, while opting for last year's computer gets you all the ports you could want but in a heavier package with an older processor and worse screen. My guess is that lots of people will decide not to make a purchase instead of being forced to compromise one way or another. The new entry-level MacBook Pro would be a great step up from the MacBook Air for a lot of users -- but the $500 separating the two computers is a difficult gap to close.

The most frustrating thing about all of this is that Apple could have silenced its critics by simply including a USB 3 port and not removing the SD reader. Space may be at a premium on this new device, but I'd be willing to bet that many potential buyers would be happy to give up two of the four USB-C ports in exchange for those legacy connections. But that wouldn't be a "courageous" move now, would it? Hell, Apple could even throw us the smallest of bones by including a USB 3 to USB-C dongle in the box so users can charge their iPhones without any further hassle.

Speaking of the iPhone, let's go over that headphone situation one more time. Putting aside Schiller's ridiculous "courage" line, it's not unreasonable to wonder if we can evolve beyond the headphone jack. No other port has been immune to the march of time, and Apple probably has the data to show that most iPhone buyers use the included headphones. In theory, switching to the included Lightning headphones wouldn't be a big deal, and there's a dongle in there if you have a nice pair you want to keep using. What's the harm?

Just as with the MacBook Pro, the problem is making consumers change their routines without a clear benefit. Apple executives gave a few rare interviews about the headphone jack decision when the iPhone 7 first came out, but the rationale mostly came down to using the limited space inside the iPhone for more useful technology, such as water resistance, a bigger battery and better cameras. Those are indeed great features to add to the iPhone. But they're also table stakes at this point. It's easy to forget that before the Galaxy Note 7 started exploding, Samsung had closed basically all the hardware gaps between its offerings and the iPhone, which means these updates were necessary, not revolutionary. And without also presenting an improved headphone solution, it's hard to not feel like something was lost in this move.

Adding insult to injury, Apple did come up with an improved wireless-headphone experience: AirPods are much simpler to use than your average Bluetooth headset. But the price and mediocre audio quality make them a tough sell, and Apple didn't even manage to have the headphones out on time. They only just hit the Apple Store a few weeks ago, and they'll be in short supply for a good long time. They should have been ready to go alongside the iPhone 7, but Apple's latest handset has been on the market for nearly three months without its companion wireless earphones. That's a major tactical blunder.

Many of Apple's more fervent supporters have scoffed at the notion that Apple is floundering a bit. After all, the company's bottom line grew for 15 years: It clearly knows how to build products that resonate. But there's been a growing chorus of unhappy fans who say that Apple doesn't have the same eye for detail as it used to. Some point to the goofy charging experiences for the new Apple Mouse and Pencil as design decisions that Steve Jobs never would have allowed.

For me, it's this new world of dongles that I'd have to use to make a new MacBook Pro work the way I need it to. Something isn't right when the MacBook Air, which hasn't substantially changed in design for five years, is still better for my needs than the brand-new MacBook Pro. I'd happily open my wallet and pay $1,799 for that new computer if it had an SD slot and a full-sized USB port. Part of me feels like those are tiny things to quibble over when weighed against the improvements -- I'm dying for a better display at this point -- but we all have to draw the line somewhere.

For others, that line might be the missing headphone jack, the late AirPods, the lack of substantial Mac updates (the Mac Pro hasn't been touched for three years), the confusing iPad lineup, the lackluster Apple Watch reception or any other chink in Apple's armor. Apple fans were sold on the promise that "it just works." When that stops being the case, it's much easier to start looking at competitors like Microsoft and Google. And that won't help Apple make 2017 a better year.

I think the Rams have a lot of figuring out to do.

Besides finding a GM, didn't we also rely heavily on toll scouting services?

Do we stick with that model? (I'm not sure it's working for us, but not sure how much can be changed for 2017).

Does the GM bring a philosophy around scouting structure we need to evaluate and build? How much of this can be in place before the draft?

It's an important but complex decision.

Ya I like the theory, but question the budget. Otherwise well done

I have loved this team since the day I heard we(St.Louis) was getting a team. The bright yellow and blue jerseys...I was 10 and loved anything my uncle loved. I didn't grow up with a father so I looked up to my uncle for everything. He bought two PSL's when the team moved here and I couldn't miss a game.

I have never waivered as a fan. Not a single time. Not until this year that is. I felt so betrayed by Stan and the entire orginaization.

This year, I've done my best to keep my positivity going. I've wanted to get on here an vent, but for the most part I don't. I remember those words "think before you post" and I usually delete what I had spent 10 minutes writing. I have far to much respect for this board to be a part of the problem and because of that, I've rarely posted over the last year.

People act as tho the St.Louis guys should just get over it...well, it's not that simple, at least not for me. At times I wonder, am I watching this because of the love, or because it's Sunday? I don't even get angry anymore when I see stupid shit happen. I'm just worried.

Anyway, that's my say, I love this board and that love increased 10 fold after getting a chance to meet so many of you. I'm trying to pull myself back into the active fray but it's just not so easy....love you all!(well most of you) lol

CGI_Ram said:

“I think when you go through struggles early and bad things happen early, I think it’s so important to learn from them and not bury them away and be disappointed by them," Palmer said. "Using all those experiences, every experience your first couple of years, re-watching that game film, even though it’s a loss and it’s hard to watch, watch it over and over and over again and take something from it – versus this coverage, I should have done this or versus this blitz, I should have done this.

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This is exactly what Goff will do. I'm sure he has done a lot already. That's part of his DNA.

I wonder whether he's gonna get his 100 virgins now... Too soon?

Jorgeh0605 said:

Demoff will have nothing to do with Fassel. Whatever HC that is chosen will choose his coaching staff and will have to decide if Fassel is a coach he wants on his team.

You aren't going to hire a HC by handcuffing him to unwanted staff.

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True. Then again why would an incoming HC not retain one of the best ST coaches in all of football? It's actually quite common that while not a requirement that a GM would like to see certain coaches kept on especially if they weren't part of the problem and can be part of the solution going forward.

I dunno what will happen, but I know I'll have very little patience for bad ST play after Coach Bones.

It's a privilege not to have him speak to the media. I care nothing about what that guy thinks.

First video was great. Nice production! Unfortunately, it's bed time.

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NE might be motivated to take less because if he walks, they get a 2019 3rd instead of a 2017 2nd (at best).

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Why would they let him walk when Brady is 41? I'd think they can keep him, why would he want to leave? Brady cant play forever

I haven't read anything in this thread and haven't been around much this season in general...but...

Payton would be #1 choice at this point.

Just my two cents.

That was a great listen, thanks for sharing @den-the-coach. Thoughts in no particular order:

Farr KILLS IT with the point that drops are just as bad as penalties to kill drives and hurt the team, and asks the key question we discussed here ad nauseum: WHY HAVEN'T THE PASS CATCHERS BEEN BENCHED YET??? This is a central flaw of the Fisher regime, the complete and total lack of accountability. But guess what... Kendricks will start on Sunday yet again. So will Quick probably. It's pathetic and we can't get a good coach in here quickly enough.

The Rams are the top job this offseason. I have heard Kirwan and others that are plugged in, guys I really respect and enjoy listening to and who aren't trying to make a name for themselves by being contrary to what is obvious, discussing that very point with the same answer. Stan Kroenke is the guy who solved LA with a massive influx of money and creativity, he gave Jeff "BS" Fisher a full five years just about, and he pays well. We see all the holes, but all teams have them and the Rams have some key and difficult to fill positions covered.

EDIT: also Higbee, enjoyed hearing mention of what I saw as well during camp, which was the enormous and obvious talent of 89.

We need to Raid their offensive line.

Raid. Get it? Haha.

Rmfnlt said:

If Fisher had all this control, then Snead basically knows very little. So, what could he possibly tell the new staff about the players ability? He's not coaching them... he's not analyzing tape on them.

Besides, I wouldn't want the new staff doing anything other than analyzing each player independently, through their own lens, then making decisions. A new set of eyes, if you will.

IMO, he's expendable.

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Well then, we'll have to agree to disagree because I think Snead is an asset to the organization and is in no way expendable. He does watch tape, has evaluations of the current roster, and knows the immeasurable aspects of the player's characters to boot.

The issue was always that he was Fisher's underling.

Chalk it up to on the job training, recognize that to have a good football team we need consistency in the FO, hire Todd Haley and let's go win some games!

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Yamahopper said:

Got a Mavic pro drone and got laid.

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Well...Grats! Now whip it out.

The drone I mean... this is a family site...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...al-criticism-in-aftermath-of-rex-ryan-firing/

Bills draw universal criticism in aftermath of Rex Ryan firing
Posted by Mike Florio on December 29, 2016

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The decision itself is understandable. The decisions surrounding it aren’t.

Rex Ryan is out after fewer than two seasons as the coach of the Bills. He has only himself to blame for making big promises publicly and privately about the team’s performance and then failing to deliver.

But the Bills also have failed as an organization, in numerous ways. And the media seems to generally agree that the Bills have handled the situation poorly.

The Bills handled it poorly by placing and keeping Rex Ryan on an island for multiple weeks, with leaks regarding the eventual terminations (leaks that undoubtedly came from the front office) forcing Ryan and the players to answer tough questions while ownership and management hid. The Bills handled it poorly by summarily dumping Ryan on a Tuesday, only five days before what will be interim coach Anthony Lynn’s on-the-job audition to be hired as Ryan’s replacement.

The Bills handled it poorly by putting G.M. Doug Whaley in charge of the search for a replacement, a move that sends a clear message that the Bills won’t be looking for an A-lister who would want control over the roster and/or his own personnel executive. The Bills handled it poorly by making a smart business decision to bench quarterback Tyrod Taylor but by forcing Lynn to address it while continuing to hide.

Ultimately, ownership bears responsibility for the current state of the team. At a time when few if any media voices are praising the decision to fire Ryan, the decision to keep Whaley, and the decision to let Whaley shape the search for a coach who will accept working with and for Whaley, it’s fair to ask whether Terry and Kim Pegula truly understand what it means to run a sports team successfully.

The football team won’t improve until it removes any and all dysfunction from the organization and develops a true sense of cohesion and unity. There can’t be separate tracks of accountability, and there can’t be an avenue for the likes of Whaley and team president Russ Brandon to blame the coach in order to preserve their own standing. Either everyone succeeds together or everyone fails together.

For now, everyone really is failing together. And that’s primarily because ownership either can’t or won’t realize that firing Ryan and letting Whaley find the next coach while Brandon pulls the strings from above constitutes the kind of half measure that will make it impossible to hire the kind of coach who will return to team to full prominence.

Ownership can continue to hide, but ownership will have a hard time running from the many voices who believe that the team quickly has become one of the most dysfunctional organizations in all of football. Especially since no coach will options will opt to become the next coach to potentially get jerked around the way Rex Ryan did in the final days of his time with the team.

Snaz said:

Garret was Placed on IR then released with an injury settlement.

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Hekker sounded like Garret could've come back & played. Do you think we're releasing Quinn after his stint on IR?
...actually, I wouldn't put it past the Rams. One can make the case he's injured too much to be effective anymore, & we need a new top-flight DE next to Donald, but c'mon. It's mighty Quinn.
Anyone know where Garret Reynolds is now?
...btw, probably the best investment the Rams can make in the O-line is for Stan to make a custom party bus & host the refs before every game, just like Jerrah does for the 'Boys. Maybe the Inglewood palace can have some perks built in to the ref's changing rooms? pre-game pizza party room???
Or hire a coach who screams at the refs after every play like Carolline in Seattle.

Don't pack tour bags. You will be coveted by any head coach hired this year.
You're not going anywhere.