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Hammond: Les Snead, now without Jeff Fisher, will rise or fall on his own merits

DaveFan'51
den-the-coach said:
Snead’s drafts have included a tendency to be fairly strong in the first couple rounds, but rarely have the Rams found a mid- to late-round hidden gem.

Their track record in free agency also has been spotty.
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These two statements are wrong or at very best misleading! the writer needs to do better research!!
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Rams on the clock - pick 69

Ram65
DaveFan'51 said:
Now go back to the Link and read the entire profile. I like the guys up side, with a little time in practice!(y);):D
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BOTTOM LINE
On the surface, Davis is a big receiver who lacks deep speed and has a hard time creating clean passing windows for quarterbacks. However, he's a decent athlete who could benefit greatly from extended route work and learning the nuances of the position. Davis is a project with some moldable traits who may have enough talent to find his way into the league once his skills and fundamentals are honed. Davis could be a practice squad stash with the ability to grow into an NFL backup......................................................................................................................................

At the third round pick the Rams need someone that has a really good chance to contribute this year. All the info on Kupp that has been posted (work ethic, studies the entire game, very technically sound and production) gives him good odds to do just that.

I like the numbers when looking at prospects and Davis' stand out. He is a lighter version of Even Engram with many the numbers that are better. Really just a little lighter 16 Lbs and slightly smaller hands. I would look at him later for the Rams depending on how the draft goes. I have a lot more confidence in McVay and Company to teach this guy because he will need time to develop.;)(y):D

DaveFan'51 said:
Robert Davis's stats:
* 4.44-40
* 41.0 Vert.
* 136.0 Broad Jump
* 4.28 short shuttle
* 141.5 SPARQ score.
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http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/evan-engram?id=2557858
*4.42 40
*36 Vert
*125. Broad Jump
*4.23 Short Shuttle
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Former Rams LT Jake Long announces his retirement

Dieter the Brock said:
You have no life?

I've been tracking former LA Rams guest star appearences in 20th Century television.

Here is Vince Ferragamo in a guest starring role in the movie "Police Woman Centerfold"

It's about a female cop who loses her job after posing nude. Here is Vince meeting the female centerfold cop

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Here is Vince with that million dollar smile

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And bere is the f'd up cover to the movie

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Then we got Christian Slater from Gleaming the Cube. He's not a player or a fan but his character "Brian Kelly" dons the LA Rams colors in order to blow up then evil factory - which is f'ing cool

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The messed up thing is as soon as he blows crap up he tosses the hat. You need to skate out of there with Ram's gear for full victory - whats up? Don't toss the hat away

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Here is Pat Haden with a guest appearance on Love Boat. He gives Vicky all sort of feelings she has never felt before.

Here she is meeting her man and the said autograph

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Then there is Ray Malavasi and Frank Corral and Jim Youngblood on an episode of Fantasy Island

They try and accomodate this icehole's fantasy witha tryout for the teams starting QB when he is dressed in Charger colors. F THAT

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Unfortunately due to his Charger gear his wife still hates him

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Sunmary - whenever you think you have no life, rest assured there is someone like me out there
:LOL:
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OK. You win!!!!!!
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McGinn on NFL draft: WRs, TEs | Tight ends stand out - NFL EXEC. WR's worst he's seen in a while.

Merlin
Shaheen round 2 would not surprise me. Teams just get nuts about upside, no way around it. Scary pick though, definite feast or famine type selection.

What sucks is if they go TE it's a next year impact deal most likely. Crappy.

They might surprise everyone and get OL out of the way right out the gate. That's another position that has steep dropoff in this one, that would be wise to knock out early if you have a need. Gonna go back and re-look at the OTs in particular I think.
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ROD NFL Mock Undrafted Rookie Free Agents Thread

RamsFlash80
Signed Undrafted Rookie Free Agents by Team: 4 players max each (all different positions). Just use the hold control+F method Alan told us to use to search to see if a player is signed already as long as we keep the list updated every page. Everyone feel free to update this list using this template as we go. Everyone can start after Mojo Ram makes the last pick of the ROD draft. Team effort here so update the list as we go if you got time.

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Baltimore Ravens
1. Isaiah McKenzie, WR (Georgia)
2. Sean Harlow, OG (Oregon St.)
3. Sam Tevi, OT (Utah)
4. Brian Cox, DE (Florida)

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Dallas Cowboys
1. Aairon Penton, CB (Missouri)
2. Freddie Stevenson, FB (Florida St.)
3. Amba Etta-Tawo, WR (Syracuse)
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Detroit Lions
1. DeVeon Smith, RB (Michigan)
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Houston Texans
1. Sam Rogers, FB (Virginia Tech)
2. J.J. Dielman, OT (Utah)
3. Cethan Carter, TE (Nebraska)
4. Javancy Jones, OLB (Jackson St.)

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Kansas City Chiefs
1. Christian Summers, WR (Towson)
2. Najee Harris, OLB (Wagner)
3. Tyler Williams, CB (Central Arkansas)
4. Storm Norton, OT (Toledo)

Los Angeles Chargers
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Los Angeles Rams
1. Johnathan "Rudy" Ford, S (Auburn)
2. Jimmie Gilbert, OLB (Colorado)
3. Tarik Cohen. RB (North Carolina A&T)
4. Collin Bevins, DE (Northwest Missouri St.)

Miami Dolphins
1. Aaron Jones, RB (UTEP)
2. Alek Torgersen, QB (Penn)
3. Samson Ebukam, DE/OLB (E. Washington)
4. Kai Nacua, S (BYU)

Minnesota Vikings
1. Aviante Collins, OG/OT - (TCU)
2. Michael Rector, WR - (Stanford)
3. Christopher Carson, RB - (Oklahoma state)
4. Pharoh Brown, TE - (Oregon)

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New Orleans Saints
1. Travin Dural, WR (LSU)
2. Glen Antoine, DT (Idaho)
3. Anthony Cioffi, S/CB (Rutgers)
4. Bradley Northnagel, LS (Cal)

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Pittsburgh Steelers
1. Darrell Daniels, TE (Washington)
2. Darius Hamilton, DT (Rutgers)
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San Francisco 49ers
1. Keevan Lucas, WR (Tulsa)
2. Kyle Kalis, OG (Michigan)
3. Brandon Bell, OLB (Penn St.)
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Tampa Bay Buccaneers
1. Nate Gerry, S (Nebraska)
2. Matthew Dayes, RB (North Carolina St.)
3. Kent Perkins, OT (Texas)
4. Nate Hairston, CB (Temple)

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Bonsignore: ‘Project Goff’ is underway at Rams headquarters

Mackeyser
Fatbot said:
These posts get at the only thing that's dampening my enthusiasm for the upcoming season, namely the west coast offense system being involved, since I agree with the pro-Martz bias that the WCO is an inferior system. I see it as the McDonalds of offenses, easy to replicate, safe and a high floor and easy to compete quickly with -- which is part of why I'm sure so many wins-starved people are excited -- but I miss the chance to see something special and unique on the offensive side.

After emerging from whatever that monstrosity Fish/Boras were calling "offense", I get why fans would be excited with any sort of system that actually resembles professional football and thus are able to stomach its connection to the filthy Whiners wuss offenses of the past. The only reason so far that I am able to stomach it is that despite the name-dropping and WCO talk of the media, what the Redskins were actually doing on the field last year has almost zero in common with those past west coast offenses in that it attacked *vertically* -- Kirk Cousins' air yards were #1 in football.

My fear, however, is given that air yards for QBs are fickle, there's no way to know what's going to be asked of Goff -- game manager on safe, high percentage throws? Or let him win games by airing it out? If the offense struggles on vertical success, the fear is the default tendency of a west coast system to fall back on what's safe. Yes, cue up all the usual talk about how playing safe football works and is smart, but as a fan I love the beauty of the gunslinger mentality of Martz of saying screw the turnovers and the percentages, give me 40 yards instead of 4.

So for me, the jury is still out on what McVay is going to bring. Sure, today's game is all about dinking & dunking and of course 80% of the time Goff will be throwing short passes, but if you can't attack down the field then you become just like every other bland offense out there, a great offense needs that something else. I'm hoping McVay is young & fearless and willing to concoct that scheme that goes out on that limb that contains that ingredient of risk that makes a recipe special, not just another fast food offense.
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Well, I've posted quite a bit that I think the Erhardt Perkins offense would be BY FAR the best system.

Problem is that... as the Pats demonstrate every year... you need a quick thinking, quick delivering QB (doesn't mean they aren't dumb as a box of rocks outside of football... both Brady and Roethlisberger aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer... more like butter knives, but luckily for them, they're savants at football...) AND cerebral WRs. Dunno why, but cerebral wide receiver is almost an oxymoron. Honestly, Pittsburgh also running the EP has lucked into multiple receivers with tremendous physical skills that can also master the system and found themselves LeVeon Bell who also is great in that system.

So, while I think in the abstract, the EP is better, there are a three drawbacks. A) it takes at least two years to be fully installed 2) it's by far the most complicated system for WRs and D) the QB and WRs have to not just play well, but have to see the defense the same way and react predictably EVERY PLAY, so being on the same page is beyond essential.

Just like the QBs coming out are fewer and fewer who understand the pro game, WRs are given less and less to do beyond run a basic route or beat the guy in front of them, a guy they often beat simply because they outclass him.

For these reasons, I've softened on my opposition to McVay's WCO. Firstly, he's been successful with it and that's important. Not all WCO's are created equal. Secondly, because he simplifying it for everyone, the barriers to success should be lowered initially. That's important to getting production right away.

The EP would be a long term investment and I dunno how many teams in the NFL can actually run it due to the dearth of WRs who can play in it. That just is.

Wouldn't be me if it weren't a long post.... LOL
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Peter King: MMQB - 4/24/17 - Draft Talk

dieterbrock
12intheBox said:
Its a pickle for the Browns. They NEED a QB - we all know that - but are they going to pass on the clear best player in the draft to take their top choice at QB?

It reminds me a bit of Bradford / Suh - except that the QBs in this class aren't quite as highly rated as Bradford was.

If I'm the Browns, unless I have a clear favorite QB - one head and shoulders above the others that I view as a franchise guy - I take Myles Garrett and let the draft come to me. If I had a QB that I really believed in - that I wanted to stake my job on (you would be) - then you don't pass on the QB if you need one.

I just don't see that much seperation between the top QBs myself.
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Have to take Garrett and then try to trade up for Trubisky IMO
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Trons 2 for 1 Mockstravaganza!!!

Tron
LACHAMP46 said:
I'm taking #1 all day....Blair Brown...what is it with guys liking him? I like
Login to view embedded media #2 has good players....but not really starters in year 1 for the Rams...

Great work Tron
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The last pick was the hardest in #1 and just picked an ILB I've read a little about lol. Went through about 20 guys before picking someone. Don't know much about Evans tbh, will have to read up on him. Thanks for the feedback!
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