LACHAMP46 said:

When Rodgers does a roll out after play action....as the receiver gets deep...what's the difference in the ground covered between a 4.6 and a 4.5? I'm sure counselor it has to be a foot or so....and football is a game of inches.

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If the difference between a star and a bust were 0.1 seconds, players like Antonio Brown, DeAndre Hopkins, Michael Thomas, Wes Welker, Anquan Boldin, Brandon Marshall, Allen Robinson, Keenan Allen, Jarvis Landry, Willie Snead, Rishard Matthews, Kelvin Benjamin, etc. wouldn't be successful pro WRs.

If anyone can tell me why Antonio Brown & Jerry Rice are just regular 4.6 guys, I'm ready to listen. You are comparing two of the hardest working guys the NFL has ever seen to rookies. Walter Payton was another average RB with an incredible workout ethic. These guys are NOT the norm...

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Nobody is calling them "regular" anything. The thing is that people like myself and @Mackeyser see the same traits in Kupp that you see in the guys who overcame a lack of straight-line speed. You don't become more skilled than a significant chunk of the WRs in the NFL while at a school like Eastern Washington unless you have otherworldly work and film habits.

I know people haven't forgotten Wes Welker. That man didn't succeed because of his athleticism. That man succeeded for the same reasons that Kupp will succeed. He was more skilled, prepared, and intelligent than just about every player he matched up against. Welker was a guy who made prime Darrelle Revis look bad.

It's easier to select an above average athlete and coach them...than select the lower tier athlete and assume they will become similar to guys like Jordy, Jerry, or Antonio. JMO

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Thing is that Kupp isn't your average "lower tier" athlete. He's a guy who has the same traits you see in the successful "lower tier" athletes.

bubbaramfan said:

I've always scratched my head when teams signed "smurfs". There's a reason why there aren't very many small players in the NFL, though there are a few who do excel. I'm skeptical either Austin or Joyner can excel. .

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Joyner has stood out on a defense top 10 defense. He has made mistakes? Sure! He's also been schemed against from time to time because of his size. Sometimes the other teams win.
There are a ton of smaller players that have succeeded in the NFL.

dieterbrock said:

I'm too lazy to scroll thru the thread to find out myself, so I'll just ask- has @Boston Ram chimed in on this kid?
Would love your opinion on him BR

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I posted this somewhere else. He is what is being described right now. Great kid, great attitude, extremely smart (actually wanted to go to BC, because of the academics).

He is a very fluid and good athlete. Does a lot of things good but not great. I like him dont love him. BC had him do a lot of things and he became very versatile. A lot of what he was asked to do was things that dont always show up on the stat sheet.

Summary: He is probably best suited to play the slot IMO. I can see him playing 40+ % of the snaps this year for us. In the right scheme he can be a very productive player. I do think we reached a little on this. I thought he was closer to a 5th rounder but would of been fine if we took him in the 4th.....All that being said, and the more I think of it, I can see this being a solid pick, because it does appear to be a scheme pick and they will not ask him to do things he cant do.

Legatron4 said:

I've been singing this tune for a while. But Goff was very good at the line as a rookie. He didn't have a single delay of game. That tells me he has control and knows what's going on.

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He'll also be receiving 95% of his snaps with the first team offense this camp year, building real chemistry with his boys.

Can't argue....this was a classic...and now will be locked in 2nd day draft history. I kept watching to see what other legends would try to top it...I liked London Fletcher's announcement as well.

LACHAMP46 said:

meh....same guy...40 times mean nothing...or so I've been told.

this guy?

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Haha
Yes.

Elmgrovegnome said:

They covered their needs for this year. Are their future holes to be worried about? Sure but it is year 1 for a new staff. This year will be about getting started and further evaluation of the roster. There are players that they still need to learn about. We can't expect that they will be in the playoffs in the first year. Sure it would be nice but this is a partial rebuild. It takes time.

I really hope that they are able to trade a few parts that they find don't fit so well. A few extra picks for next years draft would be great to help the rebuild.

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Good post.

I think they have a general direction they want to go...but this first year will be throwing it on a wall and seeing what sticks. It's a no-lose situation for McVay in this first year.

I also think that having talent on defense and a very good defensive coordinator will really help the defense. We will be able to withstand injury to anyone except Aaron Donald IMO, as long as it's not 5 starters at a time.

On offense they have to figure this OL out, and while I would've been okay with us drafting Lamp, I also understand not wanting to bring more youth and inexperience to the OL. You have 5 young guys who have all started games - time to figure out what we actually have in them.

Rams preseason games are coming to San Diego
Alden Gonzalez ESPN Staff Writer
http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation


The Los Angeles Rams may have more influence in San Diego now than the Los Angeles Chargers do.

Fox 5, a local affiliate in San Diego, announced last week that it will air Los Angeles Rams preseason games in the city over the next two years. In 2017, Fox 5 (KSWB-TV) will broadcast three of the Rams' four preseason games -- all of them, oddly enough, except their Aug. 26 home game against the Chargers, which will be broadcast nationally on CBS.

Fox 5, owned by Tribune Broadcasting, will air live coverage of the Rams' home game against the Cowboys (Aug. 12 at 6 p.m. PT), road game against the Raiders (some time between Aug. 17 and 19) and road game against the Packers (Aug. 31 at 4 p.m. PT).

The Chargers, who angered the city by recently uprooting to L.A., will spend the next two years playing out of the 30,000-seat StubHub Center, while the Rams remain at the 90,000-seat Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, which resides only 12 miles away. In 2019, the two teams will share the $2.6 billion stadium in Inglewood that is being funded by Rams owner Stan Kroenke.

CBS 2 broadcasts the Rams' preseason games in L.A. Earlier this week, the Chargers announced multi-year television and radio agreements making KABC-TV, iHeartMedia Los Angeles, KAZA-TV Azteca America 54 and KFWB 980 AM the team's official flagship English and Spanish language broadcast partners. There has been no word on whether San Diego's CBS affiliate will once again broadcast Chargers preseason games, as it has in the past.

In a statement released by Fox 5, Rams COO Kevin Demoff said: "As we look forward to our second season back home in Southern California, we are excited to partner with Fox 5 San Diego to bring Rams football to their viewers and our fans across the region."

jakebogen95 said:

Player Comparison: (Mohammad Sanu, WR, Atlanta Falcons) I like this comparison because both guys are taller receivers that have some nice speed and excel at tracking the long ball.

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Jake, Mohamed Sanu is a slow possession WR who often operates out of the slot. You sure you aren't thinking of Marvin Jones?(it was A.J. Green, Marvin Jones, and Sanu in Cincy before they split up last year)

iamme33 said:

seems like I remember hearing that fb are not accounted for in a lot of pass df if that is the case he could be a weapon.

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Even better, (especially with a quadruple threat like Rogers) most people see a fullback and think run play.

(For instance; if Harkey was on the field, it telegraphed a run play)

With Rogers, we could be looking at him pass protecting, catching a pass out of the backfield, running the ball or blocking for Gurley.

Much more unpredictable and more things for the defense to have to counter with their defense.

Perhaps it's a good time for Snead to revisit a Groy trade ?

They picked up a third in UDFA.

jrry32 said:

People really need to stop with the Kupp is essentially Spruce. They're very different players. It's like claiming that Odell Beckham Jr. is essentially Doug Baldwin 2.0.

Spruce might make this roster. He's reliable. It'll depend on his special teams value. But he's not Kupp. He's just not that talented (Kupp-level talented). He's savvy, he's tough, he's physical, he's reliable, and he plays hard. That might earn him a job.

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To me they are SOMEWHAT different players, but very similar in ways that they can contribute, if healthy. I don't consider the measurables you cited to warrant the difference in price for an UDFA and a 4th round pick. In fact, Spruce has some that I prefer, like 4 more inches vertical leap and bigger hands. His routes are sufficiently accurate and...well, 3 drops in 288 targets at CU. I would have preferred to add a burner to this corp.

Anyway, I don't much go in for the prediction game and I don't really care if I'm ultimately right or wrong. The picks are in and now we'll just have to wait and see.

LesBaker said:

I wonder if you are in any of the FLIR footage I have watched and liked. I wish I has saved my favorite........6-7 bad guys walking along and then BAM they get reduced to piles of char from an Apache firing those those explosive rounds.

I liked it and I am not ashamed of that haha.

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Not those, since I was a grunt, there is some drone footage of my ghosting a guy that I have, but it's not online as far as I know. I have tons of helmet cam footage though, also not online... Not YouTube safe.

Merlin said:

Dave's never heard of this new-fangled thing called GOOGLE... WTF is it???

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Just have him Bing it.

jrry32 said:

I'm pumped. Kupp was my #1 WR on Day 2. Reynolds was my #1 WR on Day 3. The Rams got both.

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It's exciting. I just hope they can come in and be able to contribute right away.

shovelpass said:

When Joyner's move was initially announced McVay said that Joyner would be FS during "base" sets and move down to CB during "nickel/dime" packages. I think nothing has changed, assuming Johnson is ready he'll be the FS during "nickel/dime" sets.

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EDIT: After looking it up, McVay said no such thing. I read it in an article on ESPN, LA Times, and Rotoworld. According to Rotoworld, Wade Phillips wanted to move him because it would put Joyner on the field on every down, and McVay was quoted saying that he believes Joyner is an elite nickel.

http://www.rotoworld.com/playernews/related/nfl/9635/lamarcus-joyner?rw=1

http://www.therams.com/news-and-events/article-1/Which-Rams-May-Shift-Positions-in-2017/f2d35d11-9805-4595-ae0d-a7bb6d9ea120

http://www.espn.com/blog/los-angeles-rams/post/_/id/33392/rams-will-enter-draft-seeking-more-weapons-for-jared-goff

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Thank you General Blade!!

CGI_Ram said:

It's VERY hard for rookies to have an impact at WR.

We could sure use an exception this year!

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That depends on the existing roster tho! I think at least one will see time on the field.

Snead, intentionally or not, made a lot of little digs at Fisher in that press conference. Especially in the beginning. I'm glad they (McSnead) work well together. Hopefully it pays off.

LACHAMP46 said:

Looks like they have...I think they had an excellent draft this year.

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I agree.

KOWALSKI said:

beside mundt i wasn't so high on this udfa class because they were so many bigger names still out.
but that kid from darthmouth looks nice, and the ohio de plus the nc state s seems to be brutal.

not a fan of the mizzou corner.

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Holy shit, was that a semi-positive comment from you? I'll take it!

Merlin said:

You know fwiw I've seen plenty of Warner and Faulk jerseys in and around LA. Last year when I visited camp I wore my Faulk blue and yellow jersey which is still one of my favorites.

I'm glad they're back in LA where they belong, but you won't see any hate from me re: the GSoT players.

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Merlin I have posted with you for so many years I can't even remember. I know you'd never, ever hate anything to do with the Rams no matter where they are.