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Do the Cardinals trade Rosen?

Any team trading for him needs to decide after 2 seasons (with them) whether he's worth the 4th season (with them)
If he goes some where and plays right away it could be enough time to make that decision, but it will be tight, almost like a second rookie season with new players, coaches, location, team etc...
Point was his value as a trade commodity, I don't see where his value increases if the Cards take Murray and he hadn't been traded yet. On the contrary, in that scenario his value would certainly decline. I suppose a 2nd round pick could still be on the table between day 1 and 2 of the draft if Murray is the pick.
Just my opinion of course but I think teams that are ready for a new QB will draft one, and Rosen's best market is in teams who are looking for a more longer term replacement (Like San Diego, New England etc)

The Giants come to mind as well.
During draft day just before the draft some team decides to trade. If day come draft day if there is a team in need, you never know ? If gives Arizona time to here best offers.

Dish Network vs Direct

Who needs direct tv when we have reddit.com? I have been watching streams of Rams games for years, the only way I miss a game is if I'm somewhere with no cell service. At home I watch on the computer and at work or on the road I watch on my phone. All 100% free, no subscriptions no weather related issues.
Well there are occasional lags that cause me to miss a play from time to time. But not too bad.

2019 NFL Draft: Ranking position groups, strongest to weakest

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...-ranking-position-groups-strongest-to-weakest

2019 NFL Draft: Ranking position groups, strongest to weakest

In ranking the position groups of this year's draft, it's important to acknowledge the criteria. Obviously, identifying star-caliber players is one of the most significant factors, but there are only so many of those guys in any given draft. Depth is clearly very important, but determining "future starter" depth and "backup" depth helps to stack the positions more accurately.

Long story short: The pecking order below is the marriage of various assessments of the talent and depth at each position. And No. 1's a surprise to nobody who's been following this draft class ...

1) Interior defensive line: Defensive tackle has been held up as this draft's strong suit, and for good reason -- the position could produce as many as seven or eight of the top 50 players selected in this year's draft. Guys like Quinnen Williams, Christian Wilkins, Ed Oliver, Dexter Lawrence and Jeffery Simmonshave received plenty of attention as first-round candidates, and the position's riches will spill into Day 2 of the draft. But the talent pool isn't limitless here. Teams that haven't addressed DT by Friday of draft weekend could be left in a lurch, as there isn't as much depth in the middle to late rounds.

2) Edge: While Josh Allen carries my highest grade as an edge talent, he's way behind Bradley Chubb from last year's class. That said, this year's group is much deeper overall. Allen and Montez Sweat have huge upside, but Nick Bosamight be the safer (though less explosive) option. Depending on whether or not teams reach for rushers, the strength of this position should be from about pick No. 24 until the end of the third round.

3) Interior offensive line: This position is helped out a great deal if Jonah Williams and Cody Ford are included here, instead of at tackle -- which is what I'm doing. Williams offers rare versatility, but many teams see him as a guard or center. Garrett Bradbury leads a list of three centers with instant-impact potential. There is enough guard depth to project a decent number of early starters and future starters headed all the way into the late-fourth and early-fifth round.

4) Offensive tackle: It won't receive as much mention, but this year's group of tackles offers a greater selection of starters and potential starters than we've seen since 2015. Jawaan Taylor and Andre Dillard will definitely go early, while Dalton Risner, Kaleb McGary and Greg Little all have a shot at going inside the top 40. Max Scharping and Tytus Howard are future starters at right and left tackle, respectively, while guys like Dennis Daley and Yodny Cajuste highlight a group of prospects offering good mid-round value.

5) Tight end: If your team needs a tight end, then you are in luck, relative to most drafts. In 2017, three tight ends went in Round 1 (O.J. Howard, Evan Engram and David Njoku), and there is an outside shot that could happen this year. Regardless, T.J. Hockenson, Noah Fant and Irv Smith Jr. are a talented top three, with upstarts like Kahale Warring, Dawson Knox, Jace Sternberger and Josh Oliver adding "future starter" value and solid depth available in Rounds 4-6.

6) Wide receiver: There aren't any "can't-miss" prospects in this group, but there is an interesting mixture of "solid" and "speculative" once you get into Rounds 2-4. D.K. Metcalf, Parris Campbell and Miles Boykin have rare traits, but require projection over tape. Hakeem Butler is big and physical, but he has loads of drops. Guys like Deebo Samuel, A.J. Brown and Marquise Brown add stability. This is a markedly better and deeper group than last year's class.

7) Safety: This group gets off to a slow start, considering it is missing anyone like Derwin James, Jamal Adams, Malik Hooker or Keanu Neal. However, from the early-second until the fourth or fifth round, there is pretty good quality and depth. This safety class has several players offering diversity or "big nickel" potential. There are some smaller safeties, like Jaquan Johnson, who are just good football players. With potential corner-to-safety transitions, this group becomes even deeper.

8) Quarterback: It can be argued that ultimately a quarterback group is only as good as the top three-to-five players in the bunch. This year's group has some splash at the top with Kyler Murray, Dwayne Haskins and, to a lesser extent, Drew Lock. However, I would argue that last year's QB class (particularly, the five first-rounders) was more talented -- and carried bigger upside -- than this group as a whole.

9) Running back: This is a down year for impact running backs, with one player (Josh Jacobs) likely to be targeted in the back half of the first round. It will be hard to find early starters in this group, but Damien Harris and David Montgomery feel like instant contributors, due to their style and consistency. While it is lighter at the top, this group offers solid depth in the middle rounds and should produce stout backups and committee candidates.

10) Cornerback: Your team picked a bad year to need a cornerback -- well, at least a CB1. Over the past three drafts, at least four cornerbacks have been picked in the first round (counting the versatile Minkah Fitzpatrick in last year's group). It could happen again this season, but some of those picks will be reaches. The trend of bigger, longer cornerback continues, and this is a fast cornerback group overall, but it lacks a bona fide star. Potential first-rounders like Deandre Baker and Byron Murphy are 4.5 40 guys. There is actually intriguing value on Day 3 in this group.

11) Linebacker: I wouldn't call this a "bad linebacker draft," but it definitely thins out earlier than many teams would probably like. Devin White and Devin Bushare legitimate first-round talents, but Mack Wilson may be the only true second-round candidate, while a relatively small group of linebackers could fill out Rounds 3 and 4. There is decent backup/special teams depth available on Day 3.

Happy Easter

I read an article Friday about that. I was thinking of your cousin. Some of those people are still scarred. Physically and emotionally. I hope time and grace heal their wounds.
Time passes quickly and slowly....as anyone with kids knows.
I've have remained in periodic contact with a couple of the "kids" from Columbine. Most are doing very well. I think only one of the guys has gotten married. My cousin is later this year. Don't know if that relates to what happened at all or just a generational thing.
Enjoying the "kid" phase for an extended period.

TGII @ Rams' first voluntary workout Monday 4/15/19 responded to questions

Rams coach Sean McVay said Gurley will remain the “focal point” of the offense. But General Manager Les Snead also has conceded this offseason that the Rams face a decision whether to continue with the workload Gurley has had in the past or “lessen that load.”

I think it's more accurate to say the RB position will be the focal [point, not just Gurley. They have no option but to reduce his workload. If they don't they could end up going into the post season without him being available or very limited.

He needs to be pulled from games anytime the Rams have put it out of reach. And at the end of games or the half when they are simply running out the clock they should have someone else take the ball.

Tailgating Week 1?

I'm not 100% sure I am going yet, because I work all the freaking time, but I am strongly considering it. Anybody want to get together for a couple of beers before the game in CLT?
Work will probably keep me from getting to this one but the best way to keep up with who will be going to this game and making plans for it is to start an event thread on the ROD EVENTS Forum. It works the best. Have fun and represent ROD!!!!!

Jerry Tillery @ 31?

There's a big difference between AD having an influence on a rookie with knucklehead tendencies, and influencing a semi-legend like Suh.

I voted "yes" for Tillery, with the understanding that there certainly will be other guys available that I'd be good with also.
Just take the top talent, whether DL or OL...or even CB, depending on who'd there.

My point is for all AD's high end level of play he isn't some juggernaut leader. He needs to improve there and I also wouldn't assume he buys us all sorts of room for error on douchebag draft picks.

Rams Vs Dallas Game

We'll never know of course, but I'm confident we lost the Super Bowl the moment Kupp went down. I'm actually impressed we got to the game and damn near won it.


I think both points are right. Goff missed a TON of open WRs (both NFL open and wide open) in the Super Bowl. Some of that was pressure, some was Goff.

But I am confident that Kupp is our best WR and 2nd best offensive player overall - with the potential to be the best.

Bill Belichick's Birthday

Fairly recently I created a rap song for a comedy show I was in. It was about the NFL Offseason and it's really dumb. However it's titled "Bill Belichick" so I thought it was appropro to share it with my ROD members who may or may not appreciate it. Login to view embedded media

I like the tune. That's pretty good. "I'm cutting playas like Bill Bellichick". That tune is stuck in my head now.

Rams recent draft history

So several things have been brought up on how Snead drafts. The same questions always come up, how important are workouts and private meetings and how much does he weigh the Senior Bowl and Shrine game. Somebody on TST did the homework for us. Here are the draft picks from the last two years, the time frame without Fisher where we think and feel Snead was finally given the reins.

2017 NFL Draft:
Gerald Everett - senior, Senior Bowl attendee
Cooper Kupp - senior, Senior Bowl attendee
John Johnson - senior, Senior Bowl attendee
Josh Reynolds - senior, Senior Bowl attendee
Samson Ebukam - senior
Tanzel Smart - senior, Senior Bowl attendee
Sam Rogers - senior, Senior Bowl attendee
Ejuan Price - senior

2018 NFL Draft:
Joe Noteboom - senior, Senior Bowl attendee
Brian Allen - senior
John Franklin-Myers - senior
Micah Kiser - senior, Senior Bowl attendee, visited
Ogbonnia Okoronkwo - senior, Senior Bowl attendee, visited
John Kelly - junior
Jamil Demby - senior, Senior Bowl attendee, visited
Sebastian Joseph-Day - senior
Trevon Young - senior
Travin Howard - senior
Justin Lawler - senior, visited

Notice a couple trends? Every pick but Kelly was a senior. Second trend? Nine of nineteen were Senior Bowl attendees. We don't have the visit tracker in this from 2017 but I'm sure some Sherlock Holmes can and wants to go back and dig that up but last year I seem to remember most all of those guys coming in for a visit or we worked them out on campus.

I think we can list four criteria for Snead to think somebody is a viable pick.

1) Senior
2) Senior Bowl
3) Workout
4) Need (or percieved 2nd year need)

So with these idea's and info out there we have a little over a week to redo mocks or change direction. Have fun!
Hard for me to argue against this. You stand a real good chance to select a more mature physically & mentally kid. Much more tape is usually available on Seniors to be it good or bad. The Senior Bowl is a very good opportunity to eval in the actual very important game element in person for Snead.

When reviewing the prospects in the top 20 most of them are not Seniors. The next 20 is where you start to find some good Senior prospects like Bradbury OL, Wilkins DL, Baker CB, Risner RG & OG Chris Lindstrom.

The more I investigate on Risner the more I like. He will be an instant plug-in starter if an injury were to take place in our new OL. Yes, there would be some shuffling of positions but he can start @ 3 posts now if need be! Lindstrom is not far behind Risner.

DL'er Wilkins may not have the ceiling that a Simmons or Lawrence would have, but Wilkins would check the Snead top boxes in his list. It was Wilkins that held that DL togther in that Championship game. Snead is sure to have a heavy leaning on him. Oozes maturity & professionalism. You would get your $$$ worth with him for 5 seasons. He could play any of the front 3 posts too.

On Friday late evening we might want to keep an eye on CB's Isaiah Johnson, Nasir Adderley & Rock Ya-Sin, Safeties Jaquan Johnson & Juan Thornhill, ILB David Long, DL LJ Collier & ER Christian Miller to see which of them falls & drops to us. On early Saturday with that 4th /#133 selection......NT Renell Wren, RB Bryce Love, OG Dru Samia hopefully one of them will be there.

If Dexter Lawrence is Available?

Okay, I'll list guys who could possibly be there:
Jeff Simmons DT Mississippi State
Devin Bush ILB Michigan
Jachai Polite OLB Florida
Nasir Adderley FS Delaware

There are some others whom I am still pondering because it's a closer call (Chauncey Gardner, Taylor Rapp, the OL guys (ex. Bradbury), and a couple CBs).

I'm going to add Dalton Risner to this list. I'm a big, big fan.

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