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Will Carson Wentz still take off and run?


Will Carson Wentz still take off and run? 'If I don't need to, why would I?'

One thing you just don't see at Eagles practice is Carson Wentz leaving the pocket.

You rarely see him rolling out and throwing on the run, you rarely see called bootlegs or moving pockets, you rarely see him take off when the play breaks down.
Now, some of that is simply the product of a controlled environment at training camp. As long as Wentz wears the red jersey, he can’t be hit, so there's no reason to take off and escape pressure.

But listening to Wentz speak Tuesday, it’s more than that.

Wentz, now in his fourth year with the Eagles, said that as he grows in the offense, as he develops a faster ability to process what he sees, there's less and less reason to take off.

I think it kind of goes back to playing fast and just seeing and making quick decisions and just going through my reads quicker. Maybe it’s being another year in the system and always knowing where my checkdown is, where my hots are, different things like that. That part of my game is definitely not gone, it’s still going to be there, but if I don’t need to, why would I get out of the pocket when the O-line is holding up and I can find guys to get the ball to?

It’s fascinating to hear Wentz talk this way because he’s been so effective his first three years — especially in 2017 — making plays on the run, using his athleticism as a weapon.

But it also puts him at risk, and if there’s one thing we’ve learned the last two years, it’s that the Eagles really don’t need Carson Wentz to be at risk.
Doug Pederson spoke Tuesday about how fast Wentz is operating mentally now that he’s in Year 4 and how his ability to process defensive looks and make rapid-fire decisions can only make him more effective as a passer.

He’s getting to his reads faster, it’s part of the progression of him and his growth as a young quarterback right now. He’s getting to the line of scrimmage, he’s seeing things fast, he’s redirecting protection, going through progressions, ball’s coming out of his hand quicker … and those are things that we’ve seen through the spring and through this part of camp.

It’s a tricky balance.

Wentz can be so dangerous when the play breaks down and he leaves the pocket, but he’s also a lot safer when he’s working behind an offensive line stocked with All-Pros.

He said Tuesday it hadn’t occurred to him until he was asked about it that he’s done most of his work this summer in the pocket. But it makes sense.
We’ve seen it with so many other athletic quarterbacks, from Randall Cunningham to Donovan McNabb to Russell Wilson.

As they get older and develop a deeper grasp of the offense, they can be just as dangerous picking apart a defense in the pocket as they can making things up out of the pocket.

I think every year from a mental standpoint, I’ve just taken a leap,” Wentz said. “You see the game faster, you’re reading and reacting quicker.

Wentz has run the ball 144 times in 40 games, but 31 of those were kneel-downs, so he’s actually running about three times a game. But the number of times he leaves the pocket has probably been double that.

Don’t worry. Wentz promises if there’s a play to be made outside the pocket?
He won't hesitate to go.

I feel good going just through my reads and finding a completion and moving on. But when I need to make a guy miss in the pocket? When I need to get out and make a play? That’s still definitely going to be a part of my game.

It’s all part of Wentz’s growth as a quarterback. The less time the ball spends in his hands, the safer he’ll be.

And keeping him safe and healthy is the most important thing facing the franchise this year and for the next several years.

Darrell Henderson still hasn't had 'much of a chance' in preseason

I've liked what he's shown so far. The quickness is there, catching the ball seems easy and natural to him, he's shown he can dive/grind through and grab some tough yards when it comes down to it. The speed and angles of the pursuit by the D is much better than in college, so it's about as expected. I just need to see one play where a block is made downfield, to see if he outruns everybody or not once he gets free.

The contending teams & their #2 QB's

Seems like losing your QB is a death sentence for a season. There's examples that defy that, like our '99 Rams or the Eagles of a couple years back, but for the most part you're screwed.

I do think going from Mannion to Bortles is a big upgrade obviously. But the way I expect Goff to play this season there would be immense dropoff if we have to go with Blake. IMO the difference is Super Bowl favorite (I think we're the top contender) to a wildcard type team that is a longshot.

Oh and obviously a really critical element in surviving that is your defense. You gotta have a good defense to pull that off. The '99 Rams defense was outstanding, surrendering only 15.1 ppg, and the '17 Eagles allowed for 18.4 ppg, both ranked 4th in the league in their respective seasons. IMO defense buys you room for error, which is why it's so important in surviving a QB loss.

Rams' defense might be elite this season. If so, I think we run the table behind Goff, and still have a chance with Blake if that were to happen.

Young DBs forcing Rams to make difficult decisions in secondary

Long-Term Plans May Affect Rams' CB Corps
August 18th, 2019 at 6:51pm CST by Sam Robinson
  • The contract-year statuses of Aqib Talib and Marcus Peters may force the Rams to consider the big picture when finalizing their roster. Les Snead could well keep an extra corner this season because of the potential 2020 departures of the team’s starting corners, Vincent Bonsignore of The Athletic writes (subscription required). In addition to Talib and Peters, slot starter Nickell Robey-Coleman, Troy Hill and third-round pick David Long will be roster locks. That leaves one or two spots left for a host of players who have shown well in camp, with Bonsignore singling out 2018 waiver claim Darious Williams and 2017 UDFA Kevin Peterson as the leaders to round out the corner corps. The latter missed all of 2018 due to injury, but both players have had standout camps. In addition to the Colts, Patriots and Saints, the Rams may begin receiving trade calls on some corners.
It would be very foolish to do otherwise. Snead needs to replace Peters who will demand $13 mil a season & Talib who might be talked out of retirement @ 35 yrs old for a 2 yr deal worth over $12 million ...with low cost sound outside corners. Release like Peterson, Williams & Deayon depart leaves the CB unit basically empty.

Rams 2020 Free Agents 9 of which are starters
PlayerPos.2019 Team2020 TeamTypeSnapsAgeCurrent APYGuarantees
Dante Fowler, Jr.34OLBRamsUFA57%26$12,000,000$12,000,000
Andrew WhitworthLTRamsUFA94.3%39$11,250,000$15,000,000
Michael Brockers34DERamsUFA67.4%30$11,083,333$18,146,000
Aqib TalibCBRamsUFA38.7%34$9,500,000$11,500,000
Cory LittletonILBRamsUFA95.3%27$3,095,000$0
Troy HillCBRamsVoid42.1%29$2,625,263$2,025,525
Marcus PetersCBRamsUFA90.6%27$2,396,040$9,584,160
Greg ZuerleinKRamsUFA30.3%33$2,250,000$2,375,000
Blake BortlesQBRamsUFA74.7%29$1,000,000$1,000,000
Bryce HagerILBRamsUFA5.2%28$805,000$90,000
Tyler HigbeeTERamsUFA71.6%27$730,215$580,860
Donte DeayonCBRamsERFA10.5%26$645,000$0
Morgan Fox34DERamsRFA0%26$645,000$0
Dominique HatfieldCBRamsERFA0.6%26$645,000$0
Brandon AllenQBRamsRFA0.6%28$645,000$0
JoJo NatsonWRRamsRFA0%26$645,000$0
Marqui ChristianCBRamsUFA34.3%26$637,550$210,200
Mike ThomasWRRamsUFA0%26$614,017$116,068
Austin BlytheRGRamsUFA100%28$600,497$61,988
KhaDarel HodgeWRRamsERFA7.7%25$570,000$0
Aaron NearyLGRamsERFA0%28$570,000$0
Josh Carraway34OLBRamsERFA0%26$570,000$0
Kevin PetersonCBRamsRFA0%26$570,000$0
Justin DavisRBRamsRFA0.5%25$560,000$15,000
Johnny MundtTERamsERFA3.6%26$525,000$0
Brock MillerPRamsERFA0%29$495,000$0
Jeremiah KoloneRGRamsERFA0%26$495,000$0
John Wolford

Rams offense was 'not even close' to good enough in 2nd half vs. Dallas

I went to the game since I live in Hawaii. The first half was interesting but once Brandon Allen left the game, I told a friend that the final score will be 14-10. #9 couldn't do anything and the play calling was so vanilla.

I did have a good laugh as I heard some cowboy fans saying the cowboys look really strong beating the Rams who went to the Super bowl last season.

Former Ram Jim Hardy, dies at age 96. RIP

You’re thinking Jim Healy. My god that guy was hilarious. Found this on YouTube. Looks like have a bunch of his shows. There goes hours of my free time . . .

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Heh, you're right; I got confused a bit. Thanks for sharing the vid, that certainly brings back a bunch of memories. Healy was a hoot. Used to love to listen to his show 'cuz I never knew what he was going to say next.
Good times, good memories!

~ArkyRamsFan~

Honestly, this Cowboy game was a real eye opener for me...

Reynolds is a good WR, that's why he has value, but he'll likely never be higher than a #4WR while with the Rams. We got him in the 4'th round, if a team offers a 3'rd rounder for him, he's history imo. The Rams have a couple quality rookies who are bound to be lost if placed on the practice squad, so if we can acquire a higher draft pick and keep a guy like Hodge & Webster around, I take that opportunity. We won't be able to pay Reynolds after 2020 anyway, but we can turn him into a value pick going forward. jmo.


All of Cooks/Woods/Kupp have been injured at some point in the last few years, even if it was only for a half.

Reynolds should be getting a lot more snaps when these guys are healthy to keep them healthy - same for Malcolm Brown with Gurley.

I would like to see Reynolds/Cooks/Woods/Kupp get an almost even number of snaps this year - then in the playoffs, just play our big three.

The Dak Prescott conundrum; what does an extension look like?

Pretty good breakdown of things, considering we have a similar situation to figure out w/Goff.

This article has a lot of tables, so it doesn’t paste in easily.

Sean McVay liked what he saw from Okoronkwo, Patrick vs. Cowboys

I have wasted time today on Twitter, arguing with triggered Eagle fans who are upset that McVay is getting more press than their coach.

It's hilarious. Never saw a more paranoid and insecure fan base.

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I wouldn't trade McVay to the Eagles for Doug Pederson and their five best players. I think Frank Reich had more to do with the Foles success than any other coach. And, as bad as the Eagles were through the years, the Rams were much worse.

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