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So with the Cards losing so wonderfully today, I know the RAMS have to beat them on that Monday night game in Arizona to claim a tie for first place (assuming both teams win out till then). So what is the next tie breaker between the two teams?

Is is total points scored? Strength of schedule? Common opponites?

Those in the know please chime in!
 
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To Break A Tie Within A Division​


Between two teams:
  1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
  2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
  3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
  4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
  5. Strength of victory.
  6. Strength of schedule.
  7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
  8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
  9. Best net points in common games.
  10. Best net points in all games.
  11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
  12. Coin toss
 
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We're kind of screwed on #3 as the Cardinals beat TN so far. But if we beat GB, the tables may turn over the course of the season.
 
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AZ is already 3-0 in div. Rams 1-1. So, even if stuff just "works itself out" as some have said, and even if the Rams run the table within the division and AZ wins all remaining div games(minus a loss vs Rams) the teams will be tied at 5-1 which goes to the next tie breaker.

>Best won-loss % in common games. I have no energy to look up where the two teams are at in that regard.

IMO it will be very difficult for the Rams to move up from the #5 seed going forward.
 
HE WITH HORNS said:
Just focus on the 69ers. DO NOT LOOK AHEAD.
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Exactly, but in regards to this discussion the Rams cannot lose another division game this season(starting with SF tomorrow).

Or things will just work themselves out and we'll get the #1 seed no matter what the Cardinals do
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FaulkSF said:
We're kind of screwed on #3 as the Cardinals beat TN so far. But if we beat GB, the tables may turn over the course of the season.
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We have to beat GB anyways to have a chance, so if that happens and we beat AZ, it could go to #4. Currently AZ has two NFC losses.
 
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Mojo Ram said:
AZ is already 3-0 in div. Rams 1-1. So, even if stuff just "works itself out" as some have said, and even if the Rams run the table within the division and AZ wins all remaining div games(minus a loss vs Rams) the teams will be tied at 5-1 which goes to the next tie breaker.

>Best won-loss % in common games. I have no energy to look up where the two teams are at in that regard.

IMO it will be very difficult for the Rams to move up from the #5 seed going forward.
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The common games thing is easy to keep track of if ya just focus on losses.

AZ is ahead of da Rams by 1 in common games-- the TN loss. But if the Rams beat GB, then LA and AZ would be tied with 1 loss each in "common games."

So obviously Rams can catch AZ if they just beat AZ, and then "keep pace" with AZ down the stretch with the same number of losses.

But yeah, whatever losses are incurred moving forward-- the opponent matters. Rams sure can't afford to lose to either SEA or SF if they want to keep pace with AZ on the division W/L tiebreaker.

Gonna be hard to catch AZ, granted. And so many of the games moving forward feel like "must wins"-- especially vs. AZ, GB, SF x 2, and SEA. But that AZ loss today vs. CAR is huge, and gives us that tiny little bit of wiggle room.
 
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Mojo Ram said:

To Break A Tie Within A Division​


Between two teams:
  1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
  2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
  3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
  4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
  5. Strength of victory.
  6. Strength of schedule.
  7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
  8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
  9. Best net points in common games.
  10. Best net points in all games.
  11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
  12. Coin to
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This week becomes even more important for the Rams because the whiny whiners couldn't beat Arizona without Murray. If they beat us you may as well stick a fork in the Rams this season, we'll be done (not literally). Without winning the division, the best we can hope for is a #5 seed and we could even have a better record than the teams we face in the playoffs.

It's happened before but a wild card winning the super bowl is not a common event.
 
Mojo Ram said:
Lol where does this happen and who calls it i wonder....
Does the NFL have a coin toss telecast?
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Luckily it's never happened before and I can't imagine it ever would. Odds of two teams being tied after the first 11 tiebreakers has to be astronomical-- maybe several hundred million to one?


Tiebreakers 9, 10, and 11 are crazy, can't imagine two teams ever remaining tied after those. And here's an explanation for tiebreaker rules 7 and 8:

"To determine the best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed, add a team's position in the two categories, and the lowest score wins. For example, if Team A is first in points scored and second in points allowed, its combined ranking is 3. If Team B is third in points scored and first in points allowed, its combined ranking is 4. Team A then wins the tiebreaker. If two teams are tied for a position, both teams are awarded the ranking as if they held it solely. For example, if Team A and Team B are tied for first in points scored, each team is assigned a ranking of 1 in that category, and if Team C is third, its ranking will still be 3."
 
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The Rams just have to know they control their own destiny. Win out is all they can do and let the chips fall where they may. Remember, the top wildcard plays the worst divisional winner.

This team can win out. So it's all a matter of seeding in the playoffs. That's a whole separate season. If this team is truly a contender they should be able to strut in the front door by beating all comers no matter who. Worrying about seeding? Dudes where is your faith in our team? They don't need to sneak in the back door.
 
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