Pick value break points

[Merlin]

One thing we haven't really discussed are the break points in this draft. I have heard different numbers as usual, but the consensus seems to be the first big break point is 17 overall, that after that point there is an enormous glut of players in a similar grade range.

When I look at my list I like where the Rams are from that perspective for 2 reasons...

1. They can entice a team like Dallas to trade down much easier.

2. If they cannot move up and Lynch is gone they can better extract value in a move down.

This is something that can really affect difficulty of going up or down, since most teams will have a similar grouping overall.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

I read that Tennessee thinks there is a very big drop in talent after 10. Might be posturing but getting them to move to 15. Won't be as easy if that is what the think.

 

[DaveFan'51]

I read that Tennessee thinks there is a very big drop in talent after 10. Might be posturing but getting them to move to 15. Won't be as easy if that is what the think.

I tend to think this is just, as you said, "posturing". There always is at this time of year. Every team is calling around seeing how willing another team is to trade, up/down, given a certain scenario!

 

[Mackeyser]

You look at who the most obvious teams are to trade up and make sure that your "acceptable" range is just shy of where they sit. Awww. Guess they'll have to pay a whole lot extra... *wink* what a coincidence! Or maybe it's too valuable to barter... "How dare you even suggest that I would trade away my virtue...er...#1 pick for ANY price!"

Puhleeze...

There's no question body parts will be involved to trade up. Why the pretense? At least the Rams didn't act all coquettish like some Southern belle. The only question will be will it be an arm, arm and a leg, arm, leg and kidney or what? And are the Rams willing to pay that?

But all the Scarlet O'Hara BS is just tiresome... I respect the Rams all the more for doing it like men and just making it a transaction. That time, the male way was a virtue and the only drama was who would pay how much by the deadline. Beyond that, no drama.

Now in handling CTEs, the male way? Yeah, not so much...

 

[Merlin]

I read that Tennessee thinks there is a very big drop in talent after 10. Might be posturing but getting them to move to 15. Won't be as easy if that is what the think.

I don't see that talent drop personally at 10. With the LBs for example you have Jack going probably by the bottom end of the top ten, but you also have Lee and the dropoff isn't all that great as some teams, 4-3 teams for example, will have Lee and him relatively close I think. Lee should be gone by 15-17 range. A lot of positions are similar. With RB you have Elliot going by 15-17. DE you have Bosa, Buckner, Lawson all going by same range, it's unlikely all will be gone by 10. And so on, and counting them up it's roughly that range that you get the drop.

This is why I think the Rams are in a decent spot. If Dallas wants to drop down they get very good pick compensation to go to 15, plus can expect one of RB Elliot, or one of the DEs, or one of the CBs, etc to be there. If on the other hand a team wants to move up, 15 will be a good spot to get one of the aforementioned or maybe a couple other positions. It's not a catbird seat or anything, but it's a fortuitous position given the makeup of the round 1 talent and might factor in if the Rams try to move for the guy they want.

 

[Mojo Ram]

And are the Rams willing to pay that?

That's the big question. They'll have the ammo to trade up, but would they? I'm skeptical but hopeful.

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

This is why I think the Rams are in a decent spot. If Dallas wants to drop down they get very good pick compensation to go to 15, plus can expect one of RB Elliot, or one of the DEs, or one of the CBs, etc to be there.

I hope they trade all the way up to #1 and get the Qb they like the most..........probably Wentz. Get it over with. Bite the bullet, whatever. Just get that guy in place ASAP.

 

[Ants]

I read that Tennessee thinks there is a very big drop in talent after 10. Might be posturing but getting them to move to 15. Won't be as easy if that is what the think.

I believe I've read where the Eagles think the same thing - 10 guys before a drop.
Now, of course that doesn't necessarily mean that both teams are talking about the same players.

 

[Mojo Ram]

I hope they trade all the way up to #1 and get the Qb they like the most..........probably Wentz. Get it over with. Bite the bullet, whatever. Just get that guy in place ASAP.

Sonovabitch...You stole my line....

 

[dieterbrock]

With the Rams losing players in FA and not backfilling, it makes me think that a trade up is becoming more and more unlikely.
They only have 6 picks and to move inside top 5 you have to figure it will require at least 3 of this year's picks.
With all the holes they have, 3 picks won't help "rebuild thru the draft"

 

[Elmgrovegnome]

Sonovabitch...You stole my line....

Yeah, I have been flip flopping so far but now I think that is the only answer.