DTR Podcast Ep.63: Potentially tagging both, LaMarcus Joyner & Sammy Watkins? feat. DT Deadrin Senat

[JKBOGEN]

I talk all about the recent proposition Mike Garafolo reported with the Rams tagging both Sammy Watkins and LaMarcus Joyner, life after Trumaine Johnson, Rams RFA's and NFL RFA's. South Florida DT Deadrin Senat joins the show.

SPREAKER:
https://www.spreaker.com/user/downtownrams/dtr-podcast-63

iTUNES: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast...mmy-watkins/id1233567831?i=1000403436134&mt=2

 

[bubbaramfan]

Two franchise tags? Can they do that?

 

[drasconis]

Two franchise tags? Can they do that?

They can't......

I believe Garafolo floated that they would tag Joyner not Watkins not that they would tag both, since they can't tag both.

 

[I like Rams]

Can we transition tag Watkins and franchise tag Joyner?

 

[DaveFan'51]

Two franchise tags? Can they do that?

The only way they could Tag them both is if they "Franchise Taged" one of them and "Transition Taged" the other.

 

[wolfdogg]

I like it. I prefer one more year to make sure Sammy is on board with his role and too see if that role can expand some given an off season with Goff and staff. Now sign NRC.

 

[Jacobarch]

One will be signed and the other tagged. Bank on it . We have bigger holes we need to fill we don't want to create more

 

[Psycho_X]

It's something I thought they could do. Franchise Joyner since you don't want him leaving period. Transition tag Watkins and if another team offers him a contract we can either match it or let him walk or he stays for one more year to assess his value on the team after a full offseason. It seems better than letting him walk without trying to keep him at least. Transition tag doesn't save a ton of money as it is the average of the top 10 instead of the top 5. So maybe $1 million less than the franchise tag.

Only problem is the Rams would now have more than half of their free cap space tied up into two players. Life would be a lot easier to tie up Joyner long term. If he's happy staying with the Rams I don't understand how this can't get done. He's one of the best safeties in the game and he's young. Pay him top 5 safety money and move on.

 

[Adi]

Only 1 tag per team, 1 of these guys will be on a prove it tag and the other one hopefully gets signed long term

 

[drasconis]

As said by Adi above each team can only use 1 tag, their choice which, but they can not use one of each. Rams can use either franchise tag or transition tag, but not both.

 

[JRobinson]

This pod

 

[JKBOGEN]

This pod

What about it?

 

[dieterbrock]

Umm, seriously?

How many franchise tags do teams have?
Each team gets one franchise tag per offseason. Teams don’t have to use it, but once it’s gone, it’s gone. There are no rollover tags.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/new...nsition-difference/1w7mwh36nqnfw1qb7lne9t9ka0

 

[JKBOGEN]

Umm, seriously?

How many franchise tags do teams have?
Each team gets one franchise tag per offseason. Teams don’t have to use it, but once it’s gone, it’s gone. There are no rollover tags.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/new...nsition-difference/1w7mwh36nqnfw1qb7lne9t9ka0

I talked about it on the podcast. The Rams can tag Joyner and sign him to a long term deal and then can use the tag to tag Watkins.

 

[dieterbrock]

I talked about it on the podcast. The Rams can tag Joyner and sign him to a long term deal and then can use the tag to tag Watkins.

All in 1 week? Doesn’t make sense. Why not just sign long term

 

[JKBOGEN]

All in 1 week? Doesn’t make sense. Why not just sign long term

It happened before with Dwayne Bowe and Branden Albert.

 

[dieterbrock]

It happened before with Dwayne Bowe and Branden Albert.

You sure?
Bowe was franchised in 2012 and signed long term in 13. All the articles I see show that KC had to decide between the 2 and when they locked up Bowe, they were able to franchise Albert

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/plat...chise-tag-decision-dwayne-bowe-branden-albert

 

[JKBOGEN]

You sure?
Bowe was franchised in 2012 and signed long term in 13. All the articles I see show that KC had to decide between the 2 and when they locked up Bowe, they were able to franchise Albert

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/plat...chise-tag-decision-dwayne-bowe-branden-albert

Garafolo reported that they tagged Bowe, signed him long-term then were able to tag Albert.

 

[dieterbrock]

Garafolo reported that they tagged Bowe, signed him long-term then were able to tag Albert.

I think he's mistaken. I cant find any article from that time frame that even remotely implies that.
Bowe was franchised in 2012

 

[JKBOGEN]

I think he's mistaken. I cant find any article from that time frame that even remotely implies that.
Bowe was franchised in 2012

Strange. Good stuff tho @dieterbrock for finding that.